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":A 2h18 heure française, le team PRB a été informé du sauvetage de Kevin Escoffier par Jean Le Cam. " Kevin has been rescued.  

Give it a rest chaps. HB was another attempt at evolution, and they should be applauded for spending a fuck ton of money to do so. If you want to try and be innovative you run the risk of breakages al

VG sailors at sea in the rough A translation: JLC: Damien can you receive me ? DS: Yes Jean I can (garbled)... I don't think you're receiving me that well but I receive you very well. JL

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Clarisse update: ETA Feb 3

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"Clarice is looking forward to arriving soon, but she must not be too impatient"

"According to my routings, Clarisse could arrive in Les Sables-d'Olonne on February 3. It is a deadline that is both near and far. Clarisse is looking forward to finishing it soon, she touches her dream with her finger, but she must not be too impatient. She remains vigilant and focused. It is currently off Cape Verde, the road is still damn long. A lot can happen. At the end of the round the world trip, the machines are worn out, so are the sailors. We must ensure that the boat's bobos do not get worse. We have already seen dismasting or other serious damage in the last days of a Vendée Globe. This must be avoided at all costs. Within the team, we are both happy with the progress made and vigilant. "

more at https://www.voile.banquepopulaire.fr/news/vendee-globe-clarisse-pourrait-arriver-le-3-fevrier-aux-sables-dolonne

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41 minutes ago, stief said:
 

Only realised the other day (after killing time looking at Pip's pages on her sponsors website) that Clarisse is easily on track to set a new female monohull single-handed non-stop RTW record. AFAIK it's still held by Ellen Mcarthur: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendée_Globe#Les_meilleurs_temps_féminins

That's a pretty notable achievement. Also probably represents considerable ROI for her sponsor as there'll be more coverage of that achievement than other mid-fleet boats.

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31 minutes ago, b3nharris said:

Only realised the other day (after killing time looking at Pip's pages on her sponsors website) that Clarisse is easily on track to set a new female monohull single-handed non-stop RTW record. AFAIK it's still held by Ellen Mcarthur: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendée_Globe#Les_meilleurs_temps_féminins

That's a pretty notable achievement. Also probably represents considerable ROI for her sponsor as there'll be more coverage of that achievement than other mid-fleet boats.

Good points, but--dammit-- that led to another rabbit hole reading the rules for a WSSRC record. Apparently she may be eligible, assuming all the fees were paid, etc, etc. That would be well deserved. 

Back to the other vortex of the 2002-03 Around Alone records . . .  :P

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1 hour ago, stief said:

Reducing hydro generator drag would also make sense.

He damaged the hydro generators in the South when surfing over 20 kts. Perhaps he is concerned now that speeds are frequently over 20 kts. 

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29 minutes ago, stief said:

Good points, but--dammit-- that led to another rabbit hole reading the rules for a WSSRC record. Apparently she may be eligible, assuming all the fees were paid, etc, etc. That would be well deserved. 

Back to the other vortex of the 2002-03 Around Alone records . . .  :P

Should have added that by my reckoning Pip is in with a chance (touch and go) of breaking Ellen's time of 94 days too. Doubly impressive when you consider when Medallia's first VG was in the same race that time was set (2000-2001).

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15 minutes ago, festus said:

He damaged the hydro generators in the South when surfing over 20 kts. Perhaps he is concerned now that speeds are frequently over 20 kts. 

Makes some sense.  Dashboard says he limited the use of his starboard hydro to a couple of hours yesterday, and again a few minutes ago. Not confident I'm reading the dash properly.

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9 minutes ago, b3nharris said:

Should have added that by my reckoning Pip is in with a chance (touch and go) of breaking Ellen's time of 94 days too. Doubly impressive when you consider when Medallia's first VG was in the same race that time was set (2000-2001).

Yeah. Was a bit sorry she didn't make her aim of beating EM's Cape time (missed by a few hours, thanks to the ruddy mess, and EM's time is also uncertain. 64d 03h 34m 00s --see the comments)

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another picture of an IMOCA featuring the headsail luff 'dent'

I assume this happens during the surf when the app wind comes forward and the idea is to trim to the average speed not the top speed? Can't see what the red windward telltale is doing.

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2 minutes ago, Snowden said:

another picture of an IMOCA featuring the headsail luff 'dent'

I assume this happens during the surf when the app wind comes forward and the idea is to trim to the average speed not the top speed?

Probably. Skippers probably care more about setting up for those dramatic pre-race shots.

(should've added the courtesy of a link. Like this one too )

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On 1/24/2021 at 11:28 AM, Coconuts.is said:

She has been sailing with the keel swinging around free on the bearing.  It is pretty dangerous because the boat has little stability and if you heel to much the keel will make a hole in the boat.

Going back over Isabelle track, when Jeremie came up from the south and met her, wondering was this 360 intended, with the keel hanging off?

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^ that's known as a 'Spithill'. Charal to leeward was stand on vessel, you can see from his track he had to avoid Isabelle as she failed to yield. She did a penalty turn to avoid DSQ.

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Interesting note :

"To account for the complicated conditions for the close finishes into Les Sables in the days to come, the race director decided to lengthen the finish line, in accordance with article 9.1 of the sailing instructions. The line, which was supposed to be 0.3 miles (500 meters), will now be 1.9 miles (3.1 km) extended south. This will give the fleet enough runway to slow down after this remarkable sprint finish."

I wonder how unusual an accommodation that is, and that it speaks to how crazy tight this prospective finish is.

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Something wrong with Burton, low speed the last four hours, and Dalin will cross far ahead, absolutely hauling the mail now he is back on part tack. Closer cross for Boris.

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7 minutes ago, Hitchhiker said:

Does anyone know if there is going to be a televised finish to this race?

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An exceptional coverage of the finishes
The full scale and intensity of the emotion of the arrivals of the first competitors will be delivered by means of an exceptional broadcast system to cover the finishes on all media channels. 

More than thirty channels are taking direct TV  pictures - in France and internationally – channel details to be published soon

The direct live broadcast of the finishes can be followed on the Vendéeglobe.org website and on all digital platforms and social networks platforms of the race. 

These will also be fed with live text updates, photos and videos.

https://www.vendeeglobe.org/en/news/21937/a-degree-of-uncertainty

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I find that Amel is not that clever in his rooting he is only following Maxime and is staying in the low wind patch, If he gyps away he gets some more wind and he can then pass Maxime who is sailing with an older model and at most the same speed.

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19 minutes ago, TheDragon said:

Something wrong with Burton, low speed the last four hours, and Dalin will cross far ahead, absolutely hauling the mail now he is back on part tack. Closer cross for Boris.

Agree with the cross, especially if the models are  missing the soft spots. Don't know what's up with Burton. He mentioned on the Live the sea state and a couple of broaches, so backed off, but that was a a quite a few hours ago. (Did catch a mention of a furler problem for someone, but can't find it)

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Clarisse problems, but recovered now

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 had a new disappointment: my boat was filling with water! Following the rupture of a section of filling pipe ofballast I was simply filling... my boat! As I was filling in thegravity ballast (and not by means of a pump) I knew you had to be patient and so went for a nap. What a horror to wake up to the sound of waves that are not outside but indeed in my boat. Mybanner is right next to the battery park, what a vision of despair that these precious batteries soaked in water and splashed by the movements of this entire fleet!

more at https://www.voile.banquepopulaire.fr/news/journal-de-bord-du-vendee-globe

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1 hour ago, TheDragon said:

Something wrong with Burton, low speed the last four hours, and Dalin will cross far ahead, absolutely hauling the mail now he is back on part tack. Closer cross for Boris.

Burton has 14 knots of wind, Dalin and Hermann have 17 knots. Anybody knows how much is needed to foil? I think I read somewhere that it was around 15 knots of wind?

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Alex update. Developing the design simulator, and thumbs up for Herrmann, though Yannick most likely winner.

Bet he has the best polars for running his 100s of routings ;)

 

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In addition to Malizia (2.7 M€), Hugo Boss and Charal are up for sale at 4.7 M€ and 4.5 M€ respectively.

It was leaked in one of the Tip and Shaft podacasr that Beyou has a new boat on order, most likely with Charal.

 

https://www.letelegramme.fr/voile/a-vendre-imoca-entre-2-7-et-4-7-millions-d-euros-25-01-2021-12694184.php

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5 minutes ago, GER 100 said:

24h hours later,  same story ;-)

Hehe. Will made a good  point that a 5 or 10º shift in the last few hours could be key. I suspect that the speed of the incoming low will be the nail biter for the northern pack. 

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1 minute ago, Bebmoumoute said:

In addition to Malizia (2.7 M€), Hugo Boss and Charal are up for sale at 4.7 M€ and 4.5 M€ respectively.

It was leaked in one of the Tip and Shaft podacasr that Beyou has a new boat on order, most likely with Charal.

https://www.letelegramme.fr/voile/a-vendre-imoca-entre-2-7-et-4-7-millions-d-euros-25-01-2021-12694184.php

Good link--thanks. Pip would fit well in the cave.

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34 minutes ago, stief said:

Alex update. Developing the design simulator, and thumbs up for Herrmann, though Yannick most likely winner.

Bet he has the best polars for running his 100s of routings ;)

 

What I wouldn't give for those polars!

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So Bureau chipped back a little since the 1700 sked.  Kind of interesting to see how the boats went vs the routing.  Clearly none are going as fast as the polar would suggest.  The image below is current pos vs the routing from 1700 sked.

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Charlie Dalin the Figaro sailor managed to put himself in a situation where he can control Louis Burton (nearly between him and the finish). Unless something dramatic happens (breakage or very weird weather), IMO Dalin gets the line honours.

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7 minutes ago, Hitchhiker said:

He posted the highest VMC in the 2100 sked!

Yes, you're right. The 4 hour average is good. I was looking at the latest data, not sure if it's some 10 min average?

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So I guess the 7-hour blackout we're presently in will be the last, for the leaders...  Hopefully the leaders will hit the 200-nm DTF radius before the end of tomorrow's 7-hour blackout.

I understand the reasoning behind not wanting live or near-live position reports, but I hope they can do something about the 7-hour blackout for the next edition.  For anyone outside Europe's time zones, the blackout is during the daytime, which is a real bummer trying to follow the race.

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not sure if posted.  10-12 hours old....but as always fascinating stuff.....so much grist for the mill.   Romain with wind.    Ari the last word.....

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Sorry if already posted...

"To account for the complicated conditions for the close finishes into Les Sables in the days to come, the race director decided to lengthen the finish line, in accordance with article 9.1 of the sailing instructions. The line, which was supposed to be 0.3 miles (500 meters), will now be 1.9 miles (3.1 km) extended south. This will give the fleet enough runway to slow down after this remarkable sprint finish."

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I got side tracked by the sad new of Bob Fisher.  Here is my 0400 sked update. Apivia is in command and I have to think will be hard to pass right now.  But, what a finish it will be.  Someone knows what the closest finish is because you are all a bunch of Vendee vampires.  So cough it up!

Edit: Ok so I am really distracted by the Fisher news.  But, I wonder if there will be a flurry of gybes tonight.

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Thomas and Yannick are the fastest on the course at 18 knots  and coming up to the Gybe point, 46-47 degrees N....  do they have enough of a stormy runway...       

NB. It looks as though they have changed course as now bearing 34-36 degrees

Charlie  , Louis,  and Boris coming in from the south. with gybes to boot...

What music should be playing...and what would each skipper be playing....??

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8 minutes ago, huey 2 said:

Thomas and Yannick are the fastest on the course at 18 knots  and coming up to the Gybe point, 46-47 degrees N....  do they have enough of a stormy runway...       

NB. It looks as though they have changed course as now bearing 34-36 degrees

Charlie  , Louis,  and Boris coming in from the south. with gybes to boot...

What music should be playing...and what would each skipper be playing....??

 

Some might like Push It - Salt ’n’ Pepa

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1 hour ago, huey 2 said:

What music should be playing...and what would each skipper be playing....??

How about this one:

Sail

Maybe i should cry for help
maybe i should kill myself
blame it on my A.D.D. baby
maybe I'm a different breed
maybe I'm not listening
so blame it on my A.D.D. baby

Sail
 

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An article about Charlie's naval architecture training in Southampton : https://www.tipandshaft.com/contenus-sponsorises/southampton-ingenieurs-marins/

 

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For the last 50 years, Southampton, nestled deep in the Solent, has been a popular destination for students in naval architecture. With the Ship Science and Maritime Engineering Science course at the University of Southampton, otherwise pioneering, the well-known Southampton Institute - now renamed Solent University and City College, training boatbuilders.

Graduates engineers from the University of Southampton are currently at the heart of sailing news in both hemispheres: Nick Holroyd, chief designer of the Ineos Team UK challenge, and Dan Bernasconi, head of design of Emirates Team New Zealand, are both alumnis. This is also the case of Guillaume Verdier and Antoine Gautier - respectively architect of Apivia and director of studies of MerConcept, who closely followed the construction of the Imoca yacht currently racing for victory in the Vendée Globe.

As for the skipper, Charlie Dalin, he also graduated from the University of Southampton in 2006! "It was naval architect Marc Lombard who pointed me towards the Department of Ship Science, he took the time to tell us from the North Atlantic. He felt that this was the training to do for someone who, like me, wanted to be a naval architect."

The Le Havre born skipper joined the University of Southampton after graduating from the baccalaureate: admission is based on your scholar file, the final year and baccalaureate exam grades are taken into account, with a minimum score of 15/20 in maths and 14/20 in other scientific subjects. Charlie followed a four-year course which led him to a Master of Engineering, during which each student works in the third year on a personal research project - "the performance of high roach genoas on Class America yacht”, for the Apivia skipper! Each student also takes part, in the last year, in a collective design and construction project.

"We are really taught to reason, to know the strengths and weaknesses of the scientific tools we use; these are methods that I still apply on a daily basis when I receive, for example, weather models or VPP results , explains Charlie. I am comfortable with these technologies, I am also able to read a construction drawing, to speak the same language as a naval architect, it is clearly an asset to have taken this course."

The Ship Science academic staff the susses of Apivia’s skipper will attract more international students with a similar engineer/sailor profile. "We offer high quality engineering degrees specialising in Yacht and High performance Craft, says Joe Banks, in charge of admissions: post-baccalaureate Ship Science degrees in three or four years and a Masters of Maritime Engineering Science in one year, available to current engineering students that wish to specialise. We believe in practical learning through labs and project work supported by our world class facilities [wind tunnels, new towing tank, Editor's note] and commercial engineers from the Wolfson Unit for Marine Technology and Industrial Aerodynamics. "But also a campus "like in the American series", says Antoine Gautier, and, last but not least, the proximity of the Solent which allows you to sail competitively every weekend!

So many advantages which, despite the cost - 10,000 euros per year (not counting housing) before Brexit - seduced Laure Buffière. A second-year student, she chose the University of Southampton by consulting the CVs of the Vendée Globe participants, in particular that of Charlie Dalin! "In France, you often have to go through fairly generic classes preparatoires to attend naval architecture courses. Whereas here, from the first year, you get into the real thing. Another big plus is that there is has a lot of students of different nationalities, which allows to create an international network ", explains the one who is part of the J80 crew of Team Vendée Formation. And dreams of ocean racing…

 

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Amel is staying in the low wind zone wile Maxime is sailing away from him with a higher speed, he is not been able to close the cap between them for a couple of days now.

I should say gybe go were the wind is.

There is been mentioned what will is boat do if he was in the same wind zone, his boat is good but his strategie is bad I think till now he was lucky with the wind and could sail a strait line as he does now.

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I'm really surprised Dalin has been able to sail away from Boris, who even admits in that video he is not pushing hard. WTF?

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24 minutes ago, TheDragon said:

I'm really surprised Dalin has been able to sail away from Boris, who even admits in that video he is not pushing hard. WTF?

Boris may sound on the vids, ...relaxed...but I think he is balls out going for the finish.

All of the guys are crazy sleep-deprived I suspect. Any chance to catch a few winks?

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6 hours ago, Hitchhiker said:

I got side tracked by the sad new of Bob Fisher.  Here is my 0400 sked update. Apivia is in command and I have to think will be hard to pass right now.  But, what a finish it will be.  Someone knows what the closest finish is because you are all a bunch of Vendee vampires.  So cough it up!

Edit: Ok so I am really distracted by the Fisher news.  But, I wonder if there will be a flurry of gybes tonight.

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So what about the first Route de Rhum 1978 with 98 seconds "foiler against non-foiler" ;-) - I love it!     https://sailing-legends.com/route-du-rhum

 

 

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And Boris is using his hydrogenerators, losing just a little more speed. Can he be out of diesel?

 

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Mic Birch. still incredible to see that finish again...... he is in retirement but has an around  40ft una rig boat called Dolly set up for shorthanded sailing designed by his ferry captain mate. [ something like Designes...??]    https://www.boatsnews.com/story/18445/navigator-profile-mike-birch-winner-of-the-1st-edition-of-the-route-du-rhum

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31 minutes ago, PHIRKIN said:

Boris may sound on the vids, ...relaxed...but I think he is balls out going for the finish.

All of the guys are crazy sleep-deprived I suspect. Any chance to catch a few winks?

I'm guessing the N boats may benefit from those long tracks with no gybing for rest and optimization, maybe more so at the end here than earlier due to the aforementioned sleep deprivation.  The adrenals only have so much juice to throw out.

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4 hours ago, mowgli said:

Amel is staying in the low wind zone wile Maxime is sailing away from him with a higher speed, he is not been able to close the cap between them for a couple of days now.

I should say gybe go were the wind is.

There is been mentioned what will is boat do if he was in the same wind zone, his boat is good but his strategie is bad I think till now he was lucky with the wind and could sail a strait line as he does now.

He's 83 nm behind Maxime, down from nearly 200 nm 3 days ago and the Regadata projection has him passing comfortably before Cape Finisterre.

As for gybing north, well:

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He'd be sailing into 40kts of wind and 6m waves. Not sure that would be a good move, especially since his VMG has been 15kts over the last 24h, higher than Maxime's and in fact, highest in the top 16 boats.

There's no hope of catching OMIA Water Family though, which is what I was hoping for when he had that smooth Doldrums passage, but he had no fun in the NE trades. Ah well. The front of this race is too exciting to be too concerned about 10th place. :)

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1 hour ago, dolphinmaster said:

I'm guessing the N boats may benefit from those long tracks with no gybing for rest and optimization, maybe more so at the end here than earlier due to the aforementioned sleep deprivation.  The adrenals only have so much juice to throw out.

But, needing to cover almost twice the distance with the runway left may just be a non-starter :-)

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Weather update

Pic # 1 has the 10:30 CET positions and NOAA OPC North Atlantic synoptic map for today 26th 06:00 UTC overlay. GFS and the overlay overlap accurately, like yesterday, for the LP and HP zones in the region of the top-9 boats.

A stationary front lies between the southwest point of Ireland and west of the Azores. A storm is developing west of the front near the Azores. The most western boats (Pedote, Le Cam and Dutreux) are closest to that developing storm. All three heading NE atm. Three boats could be north of the front (Pedote, Bestaven and Ruyant) and two boats around that front (Seguin and Burton). GFS does not capture the narrow wind shift zone that could be there, nor ECMWF. This morning at Flores Airport Azores it was blowing 33 kts. The developing storm is expanding east and north of the Azores, providing extra wind for Dutreux, Le Cam, Pedote and Seguin on Wednesday 27th in the morning. The top-5 boats should be enjoying 15-17 kts of wind at that time. Wind will fill in later near the finish.

Dalin and Burton projected to cross each other tracks, what should give a clear possibility to see who is actually in the best position. Current projections see a 110 nm lateral distance between the two boat when this happens. In favor of Dalin.

Sailing conditions have become better for most boats now wind and wave predictions have come down. Exceptions are of course the 3 most western non-foiling boats (Dutreux, Le Cam and Seguin). A very high VMG for the remainder of the race without (or small amount) of tacking compensates though.

Weather routing table is in pic 2, adjusted finish times in table 3. All ETA’s are again pushed back compared to yesterday with +/- 5 hours to the late afternoon. The boats will probably miss the tidal gate for the harbor in LSDO between 13-16 hrs CET. Dalin still line honors and 2nd ranking after adjustments. Bestaven projected at same ETA as Dalin, so currently projected a shared 2nd ranking. Herrmann still 1st and Burton 3rd. But Burton would just miss the podium when the projected numbers 2 arrive not side-by-side over the finish line.

ETA’s for Dutreux and Le Cam have increased 1 hour less than the other boats as they enjoy a lot of wind in their back towards the finish. A very small bit of compression.

When looking at my projected rankings for the past 3 days, Bestaven has moved up from 4th to 2nd in 3 days. Impressive. Investing in the north seems to be paying off for him.

 

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Yann Elies gives the weather/strategy analysis @ 13;40.   Charlie half asleep, most probably just woke up

JLC interview.....but in french.   and Pip let out at night.........in english.     Three LPs in a row

 

 

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56 minutes ago, ant1 said:

According to the Telgramme two new boats are for sale, we already knew about Sea Explorer on sale for 2.7M€

The new ones that are said to to be up for sale are Hugo Boss for 4.7M€, and Charal for 4.5M€

https://www.letelegramme.fr/voile/a-vendre-imoca-entre-2-7-et-4-7-millions-d-euros-25-01-2021-12694184.php

Wonder if HB sold as seen with Alex’s South Atlantic bow repairs? :D

More seriously, is it normal for boats to be sold after just one Vendee cycle? As a casual follower of the race not really thought about it before...

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Shivers Maxime and Armel,   after having got caught with little wind in the Azores HP, are going to cop a hiding with a real North Atlantic LP Storm in the Bay of Biscay.....one hell of a week or two....    one hell of a way to finish.    All finishers have to wait outside until high tide to get in and there are are a series of lows coming through....

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26 minutes ago, jimmyuk81 said:

Wonder if HB sold as seen with Alex’s South Atlantic bow repairs? :D

More seriously, is it normal for boats to be sold after just one Vendee cycle? As a casual follower of the race not really thought about it before...

Reckon he's worked out that the last boat was the better one:)  Or maybe it's a forced sale as HB have finally had enough?  Not the sort of message if the program was set to continue.  Guess the economics of current life are catching up, same with Charal - and that would be boat to pick you'd have to say.

Whatever, a hell of race for these last few days and thanks to all the weather gurus for their insights!

 

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