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Best 40'r or below results for IRC Overall:

2019 15th -   2018 8th -    2017 8th -   2016 12th -   2015 6th 

Then came 2014 When they snatched 8 of the top 10 with Wild Rose winning. 

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You are all missing the point you shallow trophy hunting cocks...... It's about participation and going out into nature with the wind in your hair and your bro's by your side..... lol

Pease love and mung beans 

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1 hour ago, PIL66 - XL2 said:

You are all missing the point you shallow trophy hunting cocks...... It's about participation and going out into nature with the wind in your hair and your bro's by your side..... lol

Pease love and mung beans 

I mean that’s what I’m in it for, but can’t a middle aged overweight man dream of finding a divorced lawyer to fund a C12 & running costs??

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The TP group have a few percent over the best boats, smaller and larger, in the other divisions under irc right now, and are fast downhill, so difficult for a smaller, higher disp boat to win unless some light air and S wind...

Maybe an optimised Bene 40 could still do it, but maybe you really need a lower rated JPK or similar, that hangs in across the range, rating around 1.04? This would be faster downhill than Wild Rose, for example, which won in entirely downhill, iirc?

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21 minutes ago, SCANAS said:

I mean that’s what I’m in it for, but can’t a middle aged overweight man dream of finding a divorced lawyer to fund a C12 & running costs??

If or when you find one... pass on their number please

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3 hours ago, SCANAS said:

That’s what I meant by my crowded TP52 comment. You have to get TP52 weather then you have to beat all the other TP52’s. Perhaps it’s better to not be in that group as it’s too hotly contested. Chutzpah has kinda of proven you can’t go smaller so bigger than 52 seems logical to me. So the question is why do ppl keep buying 52’s running costs that much cheaper than 66’?

Because they are fun as all heck to sail.   And yes, they are cheaper than a 66' to run, every day you pay the yard or the marina, or get gear for the crew and every time you buy something at the jewelry store.  

All these comments seem to come from trophy hunters not competitors.  The point is to have somebody to sail against all day and all night. 

If you just want a trophy, go after the commodore's daughter.  Or granddaughter (within proscribed limits.) 

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19 minutes ago, PIL66 - XL2 said:

If or when you find one... pass on their number please

And...photo of C12

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13 minutes ago, Left Shift said:

All these comments seem to come from trophy hunters not competitors. 

Not sure what comments you're referring to, but nowhere has anyone suggested it's about trophy hunting....The event is a race...and every competitor is out there to do their best.... within their limitations of budget, time and ability....we race for the fun, adventure, storytelling and cameraderie....and if, in doing our personal best, we happen to pick up an accolade, well.... Bonus! There are a few professionals and a few big egos....(none of them here incidentally)....but the vast majority are in it for shits 'n giggles. To call anyone here a trophy hunter means you have little understanding of the event or the people you're dealing with. Cheers.

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Who on this forum is doing the race and what boat are you on?

Myself I am on Mayfair - Rogers 46,  this year

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A big part of winning a Hobart is avoiding the Derwent "shut down", a part of the reason that the TP's seem to always be in there is that in most years they arrive at Tasman at a time of day which sees them get across the bay & up the river in daylight before it all goes quiet.

They are also quick enough to just about stay in the same weather as the maxis,  meaning if they can beat them on IRC,  (not a major issue),  all they need is a quiet patch behind them as the next system comes through and they have the middle of the fleet covered.  The only thing to worry them then is a stinking nor easter blowing one of the few remaining good little boats home.

I once sat on top of the leader board for over 24 hours before exactly this happened,  ended up 3rd!

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The closeness of the racing amongst the TP52s is also a big draw, and when you've got enough of them around you can go have extremely cool racing on the weekend

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WTF

his yacht was recently bought by the AUS 80 Pty Ltd syndicate, headed by 27 Sydney Hobarts veteran Grant ‘Wharo’ Wharington, Gun sports boat sailor Paul Heyes, marine auctioneer Adrian Seiffert and Doug Sallis are also involved. The boat is called ‘Stefan Hair’; an odd name, many will think, but it is sponsored by Stefan Ackerie, a boating enthusiast who owns a chain of hairdressing salons and was probably best known during the seventies.

This Botin 80 is the former Beau Geste, which was fifth boat to cross the finish line in the 2017 Hobart and the last of five to finish inside the 2016 race record. It was also fifth over the line in 2016 and 2013. A consistent performer, the boat was sailed from America where it had been sailing as Cabron. An all-carbon canting yacht, it has similar foils to a V70, with daggarboards.  

The 80 footer, which only arrived in the country in early December had been optimised to suit IRC handicap, but Wharo says it slowed the boat down, so if time allows, they will go back to larger sails and water ballast. “We want to go as fast as we can. Its real strength is big breeze upwind and reaching. It’s a very powerful boat.” Wharo’s eldest son, 24 year-old Ollie, was on the delivery crew from the US and is doing his first Hobart, as is Sallis’ 24 year-old son Jarrod. All worked hard to get the boat to the line on Boxing Day.

stefan-hair-aus80.jpg

 

https://www.rolexsydneyhobart.com/the-yachts/2020/stefan-hair/

 

I'm surprised Richo is not involved with this...

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On 12/12/2020 at 9:26 PM, The Dark Knight said:

WTF

his yacht was recently bought by the AUS 80 Pty Ltd syndicate, headed by 27 Sydney Hobarts veteran Grant ‘Wharo’ Wharington, Gun sports boat sailor Paul Heyes, marine auctioneer Adrian Seiffert and Doug Sallis are also involved. The boat is called ‘Stefan Hair’; an odd name, many will think, but it is sponsored by Stefan Ackerie, a boating enthusiast who owns a chain of hairdressing salons and was probably best known during the seventies.

This Botin 80 is the former Beau Geste, which was fifth boat to cross the finish line in the 2017 Hobart and the last of five to finish inside the 2016 race record. It was also fifth over the line in 2016 and 2013. A consistent performer, the boat was sailed from America where it had been sailing as Cabron. An all-carbon canting yacht, it has similar foils to a V70, with daggarboards.  

The 80 footer, which only arrived in the country in early December had been optimised to suit IRC handicap, but Wharo says it slowed the boat down, so if time allows, they will go back to larger sails and water ballast. “We want to go as fast as we can. Its real strength is big breeze upwind and reaching. It’s a very powerful boat.” Wharo’s eldest son, 24 year-old Ollie, was on the delivery crew from the US and is doing his first Hobart, as is Sallis’ 24 year-old son Jarrod. All worked hard to get the boat to the line on Boxing Day.

stefan-hair-aus80.jpg

 

https://www.rolexsydneyhobart.com/the-yachts/2020/stefan-hair/

 

I'm surprised Richo is not involved with this...

Didn't know V70s were foiling boats. The things u learn

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1 hour ago, Sugarscoop said:

would be a good boat to modify to Charal style foils. Are they legal in the Hobart?

If they are and you showed up with a boat sporting them, and you are not part of the CYCA mafia, how long would they stay legal.

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1 hour ago, The Dark Knight said:

If they are and you showed up with a boat sporting them, and you are not part of the CYCA mafia, how long would they stay legal.

CQS kinda tried it hahaha

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3 hours ago, Sugarscoop said:

would be a good boat to modify to Charal style foils. Are they legal in the Hobart?

They’d cost more than the boat!! 

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4 hours ago, Sugarscoop said:

CQS kinda tried it hahaha

To be fair on CQS, they probably didn't get the best out of their foils as they were too busy trying to figure out their canting keel

 

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On 12/12/2020 at 11:32 PM, Couta said:

"Cabron"....spanish for Arsehole.... ;-)

 

Saw that and thought the same thing. :lol:

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CQS is still on the hard in Italy. looking very much like it hasn't seen much action for a while...

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9 hours ago, JMOD said:

CQS is still on the hard in Italy. looking very much like it hasn't seen much action for a while...

It's like genuine risk.... needs to go to the tip

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On 11/6/2020 at 5:34 PM, Flatbag said:

Big Tony should be out soon due to Ms Gobbo's indiscretions; might even make the Hobart start this year.

Has serious blue water cred. Navigated Aus to Greece a while back?

JUST IN | Tony Mokbel has had his drug trafficking conviction overturned over the Lawyer X scandal.

The Court of Appeal this morning quashed the conviction and set aside the sentence

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1 minute ago, The Dark Knight said:
1 hour ago, PIL66 - XL2 said:

It's like genuine risk.... needs to go to the tip

or Airlie Beach 

the ultimate Maxi boat recycling centre.

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12 hours ago, JMOD said:

CQS is still on the hard in Italy. looking very much like it hasn't seen much action for a while...

get the chainsaw, that thing is a pile of shit.

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On 12/9/2020 at 7:36 PM, SCANAS said:

Following the finish. each boat will be escorted to Murray Street Pier where they will be met by Biosecurity and TAS Health (or a TAS Health approved & trained representative) to complete health screening before proceeding to the dock for berthing

And then they're all off to practice Social.........1.5m........... Distancing at the Customs House or Shippies ?

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On 12/11/2020 at 1:08 PM, Jono said:

Not disagreeing but my ballpark will be somewhere between a Cookson 39 and an S&S34 and it will be a lowball one at that!

The more affordable ballpark!

I think better options than an S&S34 would be a Farr 1104 or 1020. A Bene 40.7 could also be good if weather favoured the slower boats...

Interestingly we had a conversation on Filepro after finishing the last Hobart about what it would take to win overall handicap. Initially everyone was saying TP52 or bigger to which I argued we would never be able to compete with the arms race... and the best chance we have to to be at the other extreme with a great rating fully optimised and worked over slower boat and just keep doing the race every year until you get the weather that favours...

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Agreed, but the Azzuro 34 is the Sydney tailender benchmark. Hence my comment. I'm told an1104 needs stability upgrades to comply - so a new keel. 1020 would be better / cheaper for the campaign. Know of any? :-)

 

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2 hours ago, Jono said:

Agreed, but the Azzuro 34 is the Sydney tailender benchmark. Hence my comment. I'm told an1104 needs stability upgrades to comply - so a new keel. 1020 would be better / cheaper for the campaign. Know of any? :-)

 

Carl Crafoord bought an 1104 as his next Blue Water project a few years back and did a lot of work to it.  Then ex-About Time came onto the market so he pivoted to the Cookson 12, understandably, but his 1104 will be around someplace and would be a pretty good option as it was well on the way to Blue Water spec when he bought the C12.

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20 hours ago, thorpecameron said:

The more affordable ballpark!

I think better options than an S&S34 would be a Farr 1104 or 1020. A Bene 40.7 could also be good if weather favoured the slower boats...

Interestingly we had a conversation on Filepro after finishing the last Hobart about what it would take to win overall handicap. Initially everyone was saying TP52 or bigger to which I argued we would never be able to compete with the arms race... and the best chance we have to to be at the other extreme with a great rating fully optimised and worked over slower boat and just keep doing the race every year until you get the weather that favours...

There were a couple of 1020’s for sale recently, but they look to have been sold. Forzado was one of them and they used to do some east coast races in the early 2000’s...

would they qualify in original configuration fora Hobart race?

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On 12/14/2020 at 10:15 AM, Dark Cloud said:

Didn't know V70s were foiling boats. The things u learn

Yeah I think they mean't the dagger boards LOL...

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I mean before foiling boats er foiled, it was common to talk of the foils meaning the dagger boards / keel / rudder ;) now you need to be specific, are we talking straight boards, keels, C foils , J foils, L foils or keely foily things...

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9 hours ago, JonRowe said:

I mean before foiling boats er foiled, it was common to talk of the foils meaning the dagger boards / keel / rudder ;) now you need to be specific, are we talking straight boards, keels, C foils , J foils, L foils or keely foily things...

Don't foget dali foils

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On 12/2/2020 at 11:47 AM, PIL66 - XL2 said:

beau geste has arrived in Brisvegas..... now quarantining 

Now out of Quarantine and owner ripping Scanas's dumb fuck stupid Polish Premier a new arsehole.

Sydney to Hobart boat owner slams Queensland's decision to quarantine crew

- 25 days straight from San Diego to Brisbane NOT stopping anywhere.

- Tracked throughout the trip by MSQ, and Qld Health given that confirmation.

- Still forced into hotel quarantine as Qld Health decide their 25 days at sea did not count towards their isolation.

- Isolated at sea a common Commonwealth exemption for state quarantine and first granted by Australian Border Force (States need that exemption) however then Qld Health overrides that.

Worst colour of any boat that has done S2H outside Jesica Watson.

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Early Weather forecast looks like a very heavy southerly storm coming through on the first night and may be around for a few days. 

Half wishing we were going and half pleased we are not.

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1 hour ago, jack_sparrow said:

Now out of Quarantine and owner ripping Scanas's dumb fuck stupid Polish Premier a new arsehole.

Sydney to Hobart boat owner slams Queensland's decision to quarantine crew

- 25 days straight from San Diego to Brisbane NOT stopping anywhere.

- Tracked throughout the trip by MSQ, and Qld Health given that confirmation.

- Still forced into hotel quarantine as Qld Health decide their 25 days at sea did not count towards their isolation.

- Isolated at sea a common Commonwealth exemption for state quarantine and first granted by Australian Border Force (States need that exemption) however then Qld Health overrides that.

Worst colour of any boat that has done S2H outside Jesica Watson.

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I have a mate working in Fiji. They have been Covid free for many months but he is holed up for another day or so after coming home for Chrissy. He tried to leave straight back to help protect Vuda harbour from the impending cyclone but Fiji wanted to quarantine him even though he would leave quarantine directly (No public contact)..... They were to sail home but same deal on quarantine so they flew...

1 hour ago, bushsailor said:

Early Weather forecast looks like a very heavy southerly storm coming through on the first night and may be around for a few days. 

Half wishing we were going and half pleased we are not.

I'm now 100% pleased at not going.... 

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Just in!

Tasmanian residents returning from the Northern Beaches must self isolate.

Fleet will be getting smaller.

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More worrying

They’ve also advised that anyone who visited these venues on high risk dates are “not permitted to enter Tasmania”.

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Just saw the tail end of the Channel 7 News.

Every year there are more celebrity sailors.  The race is turning into a farce.

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3 hours ago, Bill E Goat said:

Have a bad feeling that this will not be happening

Betting Tas is closed to Sydney by tomorrow night

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Tasmanian closed to Northern Beaches which is defined as pretty much everything north of Manly and west to Hornsby

Going be a small fleet

not many sailmakers going save for the lads from the Shire

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Pity WOXI is not going

would have loved to see the reason the rules did not apply to them

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If Wharro is smart he stays in quarantine leave Brisbane and not berth in Sydney and he gets line honours as the only big boat not affected

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2 hours ago, Livia said:

Tasmanian closed to Northern Beaches which is defined as pretty much everything north of Manly and west to Hornsby

Going be a small fleet

not many sailmakers going save for the lads from the Shire

It’s going to be an interesting couple days ahead in terms of how CYCA handles this. 

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Email from the CYCA this morning:

"The Cruising Yacht Club of Australia (CYCA) is continuing to plan for the running of the 2020 Rolex Sydney Hobart Yacht Race. The CYCA is closely monitoring the recent NSW Health COVID-19 advisory warnings for Sydney’s Northern Beaches and the current Tasmanian Government exclusions.

The CYCA continues to work with NSW Health and the Tasmania Department of Health and we will put any additional measures in place to ensure the Race remains COVIDSafe.

The CYCA premises remain open, however, the Club asks Members and guests to strictly adhere to NSW Health’s guidelines.

The Club will have further discussions with the Tasmanian Department of Health this morning and provide an update later in the day.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.

Justine Kirkjian
CYCA CEO"

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Northern beaches is defined by Tasmania now as everywhere north of Middle harbour including manly and brookvale 

tricky

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CYCa will quickly change the rules to allow a two handed boat to win overall given that all the TPs will likely be on the start line with only two crew!

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Q. What do you call 10 blokes watching the Boxing Day test at home on TV. 

A. A Sydney to Hobart yacht race crew.

Stick a fork in this years race girls- it’s done.

 

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I’m trying to imagine crossing the line in the Derwent, then turning around and sailing back home.

No beers with your mates, no bruises from inert objects and excessive alcohol, no stories that grow taller as the crowd gets thicker. 
 

Pick a mark in Storm Bay and turn around, finish is at Sydney. Would be interesting to see how the big boys fair against the fleet with double the provisioning and double the duration, let alone the added complexity of routing and wind patterns.

As a minimum it would turn it from a sprint to an endurance race, so more opportunity as you’d carry a few extra bods ...change up the paradigm completely. 
 

Impossible to do at this late stage I know, but would be kinda cool.

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14 hours ago, Bill E Goat said:

Have a bad feeling that this will not be happening

 

16 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

Q. What do you call 10 blokes watching the Boxing Day test at home on TV. 

A. A Sydney to Hobart yacht race crew.

Stick a fork in this years race girls- it’s done.

 

Sadly I agree..... CYC in meltdown mode this morning ..... office staff will not be able to go to work and answer the their hotline today.... 

No winners here

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6 minutes ago, shaggybaxter said:

Pick a mark in Storm Bay and turn around, finish is at Sydney. Would be interesting to see how the big boys fair against the fleet with double the provisioning and double the duration, let alone the added complexity of routing and wind patterns.

They don't carry enough fuel

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I heard that the Gold Coast city council will announce today that Southport is to be renamed ‘Hobart’ for the the festive season. 

Build a wall!

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Has everyone got their sails out of the loft?

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Win a prize from Teaky's desk!

Name a keelboat sailmaker not in the Northern Beaches exclusion zone!!

 

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2 minutes ago, Livia said:

Win a prize from Teaky's desk!

Name a keelboat sailmaker not in the Northern Beaches exclusion zone!!

 

Ian Short

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Does crossing the finish line and then leaving without touching shore constitute "visiting Tasmania"?  I mean...  If I'd prepped to do this event, and felt safe aboard with my crew, but Taz said I "can't visit", my first question would be "can I still do the race if I don't come ashore?"...

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1 hour ago, Livia said:

Win a prize from Teaky's desk!

Name a keelboat sailmaker not in the Northern Beaches exclusion zone!!

 

Ox

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From TAS Gov website,

Travellers who have been in this area or at these premises during the specified times are not permitted to enter Tasmania

Northern Beaches local government area (LGA)

that rules out half the TP52 crews

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Make that sailmakers in the shire now as well. To all you QLD anarchists who have just done the delivery- GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE NOW! Accidental Anna will pull the drawbridge up by Sunday nite as sure as Rose Kennedy owned a black dress.

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3 minutes ago, Bill E Goat said:

From TAS Gov website,

Travellers who have been in this area or at these premises during the specified times are not permitted to enter Tasmania

Northern Beaches local government area (LGA)

that rules out half the TP52 crews

So even if the race goes ahead there can be no winner this year.

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8 minutes ago, Bill E Goat said:

From TAS Gov website,

Travellers who have been in this area or at these premises during the specified times are not permitted to enter Tasmania

Northern Beaches local government area (LGA)

that rules out half the TP52 crews

All Tp 52 crews save for one owner - see fixed

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23 minutes ago, TUBBY said:

Not how it works.

The race is just there to get everyone to Customs House!

If there were affordable flights to Hobart back in 1945, then we probably wouldn't have a race. Just boozy flights to Hobart for NYE. 

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.... and now the Shire is part of the outbreak (not Shorty now as well).  Is this the end for this year ?

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1 minute ago, DtM said:

.... and now the Shire is part of the outbreak (not Shorty now as well).  Is this the end for this year ?

Any sailmakers in the western suburbs ?

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Shire is gone as well.

Bugger

The Ox might be the only left, he better raise his rate.

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46 minutes ago, Bill E Goat said:

Any sailmakers in the western suburbs ?

The Adventure Megastore at Westfield Penrith are having a sale, but it appears they have given up on the Hobart race for this year and are looking ahead to the Gladstone race.

Adventure Megastore at Westfield Penrith

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42 minutes ago, Livia said:

Shire is gone as well.

Bugger

The Ox might be the only left, he better raise his rate.

His rates aren't the problem just the delivery time. I got my new main last week. I remember thinking at the time when I ordered it that Blue spectra would look great on the boat. I just wish I didn't sell it back in 2001.

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So Black Jack ships to Monaco, change their minds and ship her back to Aus for one more S/H which may well not happen. Quite an impressive 2020 that.

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On 12/11/2020 at 3:04 PM, PIL66 - XL2 said:

If or when you find one... pass on their number please

I know one, but he has one hell of a beard.

 

As long as you’re happy though... I don’t judge.

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2 hours ago, LB 15 said:

His rates aren't the problem just the delivery time. I got my new main last week. I remember thinking at the time when I ordered it that Blue spectra would look great on the boat. I just wish I didn't sell it back in 2001.

I don't even know who you're talking about that's pretty funny. 

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44 minutes ago, Swanno said:

I don't even know who you're talking about that's pretty funny. 

He must be on the "good mates, express deliver" setup though. The rest of the customers got a note explaining that COVID was delaying cotton and canvas shipments, hence their sails were delayed "just a little longer".

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RANSA just got added to the NSW list

If you went to the Christmas party you must test and isolate.

That is the end of Hobart.

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Sydney to Hobart on a knife-edge amid COVID-19 outbreak

“Regardless of circumstances, if there is a person who has been in the high-risk area, if they want to come to Tasmania on a yacht or on a plane, they have to meet the same requirement,” he said.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/sailing/sydney-to-hobart-on-a-knife-edge-amid-covid-19-outbreak-20201218-p56orx.html

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11 hours ago, Livia said:

Northern beaches is defined by Tasmania now as everywhere north of Middle harbour including manly and brookvale 

tricky

Defined as Nth Beaches LGA. Added High Risk as of 11.00pm last night and applying after 11 December. Peakhurst, Kirribilli and Penrith locations also listed with different times.  Entry Exemption required for High Risk areas and for special circumstances only then self quarantine for 14 days. Avalon areas listed with more specific times and mandatory 14 days state quarantine 

https://www.coronavirus.tas.gov.au/travellers-and-visitors/coming-to-tasmania/travel-alert

Qld as comparison mandatory state quarantine 14 days coming from northern beaches LGA arriving after 1.00am or in 5 hours. Suspect Tasmania will also follow QLD with mandatory state not self quarantine which then make entry exemptions more difficult.

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9 hours ago, LB 15 said:

To all you QLD anarchists who have just done the delivery- GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE NOW! Accidental Anna will pull the drawbridge up by Sunday nite as sure as Rose Kennedy owned a black dress.

Fuck Sunday ...try in 5 hours.

The Polish woman has already pulled the trigger.

They have exactly until 1.00am EST Saturday to get across the border.

Or then it's 14 days in Anna's love hotel at $3k or $2k a pop each shared.

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Driving and feeling like a smuggler then turn right at Tenterfield before the border check point and take back roads over Mt Barney. :ph34r:

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10 hours ago, Your Mom said:

Does crossing the finish line and then leaving without touching shore constitute "visiting Tasmania"?  I mean...  If I'd prepped to do this event, and felt safe aboard with my crew, but Taz said I "can't visit", my first question would be "can I still do the race if I don't come ashore?"...

Quite OK. 

CYC charter a small cruise liner and tow race boats home behind as those race crew pooftas don't do deliveries.

Ferry crew from finish line to it then go home when last boat crosses the line. With time back to Sydney that is well over a week drinking solid for big boat crews ....maybe throw in some entertainment paid in 15 minute increments 

Take plenty of body bags as many won't arrive back alive and or can never claim not to have had a homosexual experience.

Mumbles could write a book about it and make a fortune as participants would buy up every copy and burn them. 

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Yesterday Gladys told Sydneysiders, particularly north of the city, they “should not be leaving home” unless it is essential. And when they do leave home, they should be wearing masks.

“Stay away from non-essential activities,” she said.

“People should only be undertaking absolutely necessary activity. If we don’t get on top of it in the next few days, it could mean more restrictions.”

The CYCA should can the race today. What we don’t want is the sport to be seen as being made up of entitled fuckwits that only care about themselves - even if it is true. 

If you are from Sydney  (or have been there the last few days)  and you are considering still sailing in the race and potentially taking the virus to Tas, you are a selfish cunt. Please post lots of pics on Facebook so we know who you are.

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29 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

If you are from Sydney  (or have been there the last few days)  and you are considering still sailing in the race and potentially taking the virus to Tas, you are a selfish cunt. Please post lots of pics on Facebook so we know who you are. 

Looks like someone didn't get asked to crew...

Also just to remind everyone, you took a vacation to Italy back in late Feb/March, got sick, and brought it back to Australia.

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From the CYCA

 

As we have seen in the last few days, this is an ever-changing situation. The Cub will provide an update at approximately 0900hrs tomorrow morning, Saturday 19 December.

 

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1 hour ago, Controversial_posts said:

Looks like someone didn't get asked to crew...

Also just to remind everyone, you took a vacation to Italy back in late Feb/March, got sick, and brought it back to Australia.

No I turned down the offer months ago cupcake. You must be ecstatic about this latest outbreak. As you said in March the longer the pandemic goes on the more money you will make. Anyway what boat are you on petal? 

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