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8 hours ago, mad said:

That's the whole point though, the EU aren't fucking the UK, this is simply what happens when you choose to leave the club.  You don't get any membership rights or bonuses. 

Agreed, but the result for the glorious club-leavers is still enormous butthurt and a lack of insight of why their toys have been taken away is both pathetic and risible in equal measure

The only tiny silver lining is listening to butthurt and reading bullshit like Wayne's as they desperately try to justify their voting for it and the cluster fuck it is.... and its not even kicked in yet, and they're still hiding a lot behind Covid.

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I was thinking for the last few days that  as a pro union lifelong Alliance voter I should respond to this post but turning on the radio this morning and hearing Mike Nesbitt made me decide to act.

No way I'm going to PA. This was a top thread, now it's fucked. Thank you fucking idiots.

Umm, that would be you.  1) You are fool (as is both evident and self-confessed) who thinks that brexit is a good idea.  2) You post nonsense that only reinforces this and believe that you a

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12 minutes ago, mad said:

The only tiny silver lining is listening to butthurt and reading bullshit like Wayne's as they desperately try to justify their voting for it and the cluster fuck it is.... and its not even kicked in yet, and they're still hiding a lot behind Covid.

Agreed again.

The sad thing though, for me, is the collateral damage inflicted upon all those who voted with less, uh, full retard.

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8 hours ago, LeoV said:

It's almost as if the government literally do not know what they're doing.

Lets pretend they have this 3 point plan.

1. Appoint belligerent and unimaginative Frost as the UK's point man to drive Brussels insane. The will eventually say yes to anything just to get rid of him. 

2. Reach into drawer and pull the tried and tested DUP and whisper promises in their ear for in return for tgoing bat shit crazy about the Protocol, which doesn't take a lot of encouragement.

3. If the US steps in the DUP tell them to mind their own business saying we are 'todays' Irish who have always backed the GFA. Not the 'offspring' of Irish who escaped in the 19th century because they were soft, thinking eating was a right.

So this is the context that allows them to argue that the protocol doesn’t work - must be revisited - renegotiated or scrapped.

Then a report is issued to solve the problem of there only being 2 border choices. 

The third border is now a thing called  'Max Facilitation' placed along the north south border.

Full circle back to 2018.

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With a little grin, regardless of Brexit there can still be some cordial cooperation like this one : Waterloo, you know that name, it's right here where Napoleon got his arse kicked, yesterday a big storm flew over the country and one of the 3 iconic chestnut trees next to the Houghemont farm which was one of the British HQ's on the battlefield, well that tree dating back to the 17th century, if fell over. The two others, nicknamed "the sentinels"are still standing.

Within a day it was agreed that saplings from the Wellington estate in britanistan will be crossing the channel to be planted instead of the old tree, the saplings are derived from chestnut trees planted on the Wellington estate out of saplings that were taken from the very same trees in Waterloo. So there, hope it does not sound too smarmy or so but some people would do well to consider there are more ties than one would think at times

 

by the way, Laser, if getting Vetus parts is getting problematic, our good friend Wayne will gladly give you pointers to Chinese, Zimbabwian or Outer Usbekistani suppliers who will be very happy to provide you with all you need for half the price ... for you my friend I'll make a special price !!!

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2 hours ago, Albatros said:

With a little grin, regardless of Brexit there can still be some cordial cooperation like this one : Waterloo, you know that name, it's right here where Napoleon got his arse kicked, yesterday a big storm flew over the country and one of the 3 iconic chestnut trees next to the Houghemont farm which was one of the British HQ's on the battlefield, well that tree dating back to the 17th century, if fell over. The two others, nicknamed "the sentinels"are still standing.

Within a day it was agreed that saplings from the Wellington estate in britanistan will be crossing the channel to be planted instead of the old tree, the saplings are derived from chestnut trees planted on the Wellington estate out of saplings that were taken from the very same trees in Waterloo. So there, hope it does not sound too smarmy or so but some people would do well to consider there are more ties than one would think at times

 

by the way, Laser, if getting Vetus parts is getting problematic, our good friend Wayne will gladly give you pointers to Chinese, Zimbabwian or Outer Usbekistani suppliers who will be very happy to provide you with all you need for half the price ... for you my friend I'll make a special price !!!

By Jove I think I’ve got it!!
 

The Brits and EU should have a good old fashioned game of conkers with the winner getting to decide how to break the impasse 


 

lol

 

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Today ONS will release its first estimates of UK trade for January.

Currently exports flat lining since summer. Imports disparity reflective of Brexit stockpiling jst as occured in early 2019 for the exit that never happened.

No one talks about UK exporters to EU needing EU component imports but two are out of whack.

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Jury is in.

Using Allie Renisons out takes.

40.7% drop in goods exports to the EU in January. Even with stockpiling, that's really bad.

63.6% decrease in exports of food/animals to the EU as well...new SPS controls really biting.

In the same period goods exports to non-EU countries went up...by 0.2%. (so much for the fantastic trade deals that Truss negotiated)

Difficult to blame much of this on Covid (even if France did temporarily close the border) when goods exports to non-EU countries marginally increased in the same period.

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Chris grey dissects Frost's article;

https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2021/03/fisking-frost.html

Taken as whole, the article is a sorry mixture of blather, nonsense, disingenuity and dishonesty. If I am right that Frost not only believes all this but even thinks it is pretty smart stuff, it is actually even more depressing than if he were playing to the Brexiter gallery. It shows how, for the foreseeable future, UK-EU relations will be framed, because Johnson has given Frost the power to do so.

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Looks like UK is turning right into their fictional believe how bad the EU was. Unelected bureaucrats, stifling industries, unfair for normal Joe, etc.
Take all the Vote Leave crap and turn it around 100% and you are nearer to the truth.

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6 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

40.7% drop in goods exports to the EU in January. Even with stockpiling, that's really bad.

Frost Tweets.   :lol:

"Evidence of stockpiling late last year (as @ONS note). This meant less need to move goods in January."

6 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Difficult to blame much of this on Covid (even if France did temporarily close the border) when goods exports to non-EU countries marginally increased in the same period

"Covid lockdowns across Europe bringing reduced demand for goods overall."

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Some good news: the Beeb just reported that fresh fish exports were down 83% in Jan, but gov spokewoman said this is also due to stockpiling, so nothing to worry about long term.........

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Just now, hump101 said:

Some good news: the Beeb just reported that fresh fish exports were down 83% in Jan, but gov spokeswoman said this is also due to stockpiling, so nothing to worry about long term.........

 

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1 hour ago, hump101 said:

Some good news: the Beeb just reported that fresh fish exports were down 83% in Jan, but gov spokewoman said this is also due to stockpiling, so nothing to worry about long term.........

One of these is fiction.

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This SURVEY of UK IoD Business Leaders (just before ONS January trade data released).

This is not just EU but become a permanent dent in global ambition bullshit?

Government needs to pull its finger out pronto and stop the charade everything will be sweet. Can't understand how Truss is seen as star...she is asleep at the wheel.

Firms stopped EU trading in January

Almost 20%

9% temporarily
But 8% permanently

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Commercial opportunities arising from Brexit?

23% say YES
62% say NO

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More non-EU trade from Brexit?

18% already has
10% plan to
40% NO

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Graphs copy Ben Chu

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^^^^
What would be the most economically stupid Brexit someone could negotiate ?

One in which UK Goods and Agricultural exports faced significant non tariff barriers but EU imports to UK none.
Because Tories fear shortages that will prove Project Fear was true - result is UK business very challenged in red tape costs and delays and EU business is finding it much less painful and UK costumers are paying for it.

One in which UK Services export to the EU almost will disappear because either UK no longer allowed to provide the service in EU or UK workers not allowed to work in the EU doing service stuff. Resulting in even parts of The City being transplanted to the EU. But more damage in the SME FS sector.

One in which UK sectors like agriculture, building sector and social care lacking the required migrant workers because of UK visa restrictions which leads to Agriculture firms to go bankrupt, building projects more expensive or patients receive less care.

One in which Fish  sector is struggling to reach customers in the EU but UK customers keep buying EU and Efta fish in huge numbers as before.

One in which the UK struggles to subsidize as much as the EU did out of different funds.

One that results in the UK Government goes for a toxic relationship with EU and European Governments.

Hats off, BJ & Frost delivered the worst trade deal in modern times that will have an impact for decades on UK finances for a few % more souverignity (if et all) but loosing the EU friendship.

Fuck Business is what BJ said, he is a man of his words.
But he should have said, fuck every UK citizen except the wealthy or the ones with nice pensions and owning their home.

(based on https://twitter.com/Guy_Stallard/status/1370500701361684481 )

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Interesting Twitter feed by LeoV’s and Jack’s darling at the Guardian George Monbiet discussing his reappraisal of his views on the EU. For such a high profile EU acolyte to be questioning his own views.

 

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1 hour ago, Waynemarlow said:

Guardian George Monbiet discussing his reappraisal of his views on the EU. For such a high profile EU acolyte to be questioning his own views.

You can match much of his appraisal of the EU to the UK and most western countries.

It is written by someone who had aspirations for certain EU policies and as a whole, far beyond its capacity to deliver.

He doesn't say the UK is better off outside the EU, in fact the exact opposite.

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Monbiet, not a known name to me.

While the EU was good for us, we made it even worse than it would have been in our absence.
Interesting stance..  he should be minister instead of a provoking (as he should  be) columnist.

And a few weeks ago;
On 11 February 2021, whilst on BBC Two's Politics Live, he said, "If I lived in Scotland, I'd want to get out of this corrupt, dysfunctional, chaotic union as quickly as possible. And the same applies to Wales, the same applies to Northern Ireland. I can't see the point of staying in the United Kingdom, of being chained to the United Kingdom like a block of concrete, as the boat begins to founder."

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ANNIVERSARY

Friday 13 March 2020.

Interview The UK's Chief Scientist and Covid advisor (still in job today) did a round of TV and radio interviews.

- Promoting Herd Immunity (two words never to be heard again)

- Protection of the Aged. (One week later over 25K elderly transfered from hospitals back to aged care, UNTESTED to free up space)

Community Testing Ceased on this Friday 13 March 2020.

 

It is hard finding a larger failure in public health policy than this.

Today Friday 13 2021 

Sitting buried on page 16 in The Times shows why the Government will never be held to account.

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^^^^^^^^

The same day Friday 13 March 2020

The right wing press was doing the governments bidding by turning the heat up on those journalists trying to do their jobs. 

"Those questioning the Govt's Covid strategy is not only wrong, they're a danger to us all" this Tory Telegraph headline screams. That Govt strategy then was to sit back and only 'mitigate' NOT 'suppress' and herd immunity would do the rest.

Piers Morgan went on to be amoungst a handfull who questioned the Governments Covid responses, the lack of accountability and the cooked testing data etc.

His breakfast show was boycotted by the Govt, knowing their spin wouldn't be tolerated.

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Another was Emily Maitlis host of the BBC's Newsnight. This opening monologue over the Cummings/Barnard Castle affair, saw her sanctioned by the BBS for 'bias' against the Govt.

Many believe the Govt message of 'move on' and forget about Cummings the PM's right hand man breaking lockdown rules, was read by the public as 'fuck the rules' if they are going to go 'fuck the rules'.

This a major 'turning point' where opposition to lockdowns became a major political issue within Govt. This delayed their implementation with disastrous results in Xmas lead up.

The UK's death toll is the score for things like letting one man get off scot free for breaking the law and supported by the Govt when the excuses were lies under any 'pub test'.

 

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https://www.theguardian.com/law/2021/mar/11/civil-liberties-groups-call-police-plans-for-demos-an-assault-on-right-to-protest?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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On Thursday, Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary and Fire and Rescue Services (HMICFRS) published its plans for the future of policing protests, two days after the government announced proposed new laws granting more powers to officers and the home secretary.

 

Among other things, the police, crime, sentencing and courts bill will give Priti Patel powers to create laws to define “serious disruption” to communities and organisations, which police can then rely on to impose conditions on protests.

 

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1 hour ago, mad said:

This is just the start of things to come.

Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill, ordered by Patel following the demos last year, MPs will vote on it on Tuesday I think.

Annoy someone ....up to 10 years jail. 

 

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Total drift...1985.. 'Marvelous' Marvin Hagler vs 'Hitman' Tommy Hearns.

The most brutal 3 rounds of boxing to this day.

Marvelous Marvin died unexpectedly today aged 66.

2 minutes Hagler in blue.

 

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Incoherent scriblings in the Telegragh. 

UK forced to change tack as trade with the EU descends into chaos

So EU/EEC membership caused UK manufacturing to decline and made its businesses lazy and uncompetitive. Brexit forces UK to now be self sufficient.

Back to 1972 far fetched thinking?

You then read this from a few weeks ago.

Tory MPs declare support for controversial coal mine 

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Hagler, Hearns, Sugar Ray and Roberto... truly, the interesection of those 4 men at MW was highest highpoint in that brutal sport

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couple of hours ago saw some excerps of "Brexit, the uncivil war" in which the cunning Cummins (et al) strategies to convince the unwashed britanistani masses (aka the Waynians) to come and vote ... couldn't stomach the whole thing, especially thinking about the hundreds of times our good friend Wayne has been trying to rattle people with his 48/52 mantra. Put simply : sorry for the Godwin reference, but Cummins and his cronies are direct descendants of Goebbels and his mob, and those that fell for it are nincompoops and those that still defend it are either dumb, retarded or simply disingenious, none of them being mutually exclusive

and if the above might sound frustrated it's all to do with the 48% , some of which good friends, can't wait to go sailing with them next time, depending on jabs timing and travel limitations

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EU to take legal action TODAY over UK move on Irish Protocol

There will be a letter of formal notice, triggering an infringement procedure due to an alleged breach of EU law, and what sources describe as a second "political" letter, alleging a breach of the good faith provisions of the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement. 

The former letter could result in the UK being taken to the European Court of Justice, while the latter potentially marks the beginning of an arbitration process under the dispute settlement mechanism within the Withdrawal Agreement. 

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Remember we are going full circle on the Northern Ireland Protocol.

1 October 2020 - The European Commission has today sent the United Kingdom a letter of formal notice for breaching its obligations under the Withdrawal Agreement with Internal Markets Bill 

8 December 2020 - UK to ditch Internal Market Bill clauses after reaching agreement in principle on Northern Ireland Protocol

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23 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Total drift...1985.. 'Marvelous' Marvin Hagler vs 'Hitman' Tommy Hearns.

The most brutal 3 rounds of boxing to this day.

Marvelous Marvin died unexpectedly today aged 66.

2 minutes Hagler in blue.

 

Remember watching that fight live on a tiny telly in Uni halls after being persuaded by flatmates to stay up. First boxing match I had ever seen in its entirety. Could not comprehend the workrate and resilience. Made me flinch all over again watching that clip.

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first Ireland, Denmark, Norway, Iceland and Bulgaria suspended rollout of AstraZeneca

.....now France, Italy, Germany & Spain join them over possible serious side-effects.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0315/1204104-astrazeneca-vaccine-who/

"The European Medicines Agency is expected to complete its safety review of issues relating to the AstraZeneca vaccine tomorrow".

UK have given more AZ jabs than anyone and no mention to date?

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Hey Jack good old Auntie Beeb had an interesting thing the other day, headline was 40% down on exports which you picked up on. Notice you forgot the monetry values in your little exposees the other day, what was it 6.6Bn down on the EU side and 5.6Bn down on the UK side.

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Just now, Waynemarlow said:

Some remorse considering how badly you seem to think the Conservatives have handled Covid and Brexit

That polling canvassed many times recently inc by you.....have you got anything fresh? Hardly fresh is a 2016 referendum and an election result from 2016. What is actually happening today you don't seem to have any appetite for.  

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19 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

first Ireland, Denmark, Norway, Iceland and Bulgaria suspended rollout of AstraZeneca

.....now France, Italy, Germany & Spain join them over possible serious side-effects.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0315/1204104-astrazeneca-vaccine-who/

"The European Medicines Agency is expected to complete its safety review of issues relating to the AstraZeneca vaccine tomorrow".

UK have given more AZ jabs than anyone and no mention to date?

Even your own go to bible the Guardian gives it clear and concisely

We can try a quick back-of-the-envelope calculation. Deep vein thromboses (DVTs) happen to around one person per 1,000 each year, and probably more in the older population being vaccinated. Working on the basis of these figures, out of 5 million people getting vaccinated, we would expect significantly more than 5,000 DVTs a year, or at least 100 every week. So it is not at all surprising that there have been 30 reports.

Using a Jack conspiracy theory, is it just a get out ruse for how appalling the vaccine takeup has been in Europe.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/15/evidence-oxford-vaccine-blood-clots-data-causal-links

 

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5 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

That polling canvassed many times recently inc by you.....have you got anything fresh? 

Umm thats March, 21 polling figures, can't get any fresher than that.

Got a question for you, is the stale air of old news that you seem to rehash, not strong enough to counter the withdrawal symptoms thats kicking in for you Junkie Jack, seems a lot of reminscing of late ?

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2 minutes ago, Waynemarlow said:

Notice you forgot the monetry values in your little exposees the other day, what was it 6.6Bn down on the EU side and 5.6Bn down on the UK side

Wayne this will come as a shock but;

- If UK EU imports are down EU exports to UK are down. 

- If UK exports to EU are down and UK exports to non EU haven't moved; then UK exports have collapsed.

Can you show me where individual EU states exports inside the EU (to replace UK) and EU exports outside the EU have collapsed?

I didn't think so. 

  

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4 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Wayne this will come as a shock but;

- If UK EU imports are down EU exports to UK are down. 

- If UK exports to EU are down and UK exports to non EU haven't moved; then UK exports have collapsed.

Can you show me where individual EU states exports inside the EU (to replace UK) and EU exports outside the EU have collapsed?

I didn't think so. 

  

I think I would be more worried about their own home markets

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-autos-idUSKBN2A31AC

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7 minutes ago, Waynemarlow said:

Even your own go to bible the Guardian gives it clear and concisely

I think you will find the European Medicines Agency is the bible people follow on vaccines, not a newspaper and one relying on what data??

11 minutes ago, Waynemarlow said:

Using a Jack conspiracy theory, is it just a get out ruse for how appalling the vaccine takeup has been in Europe.

 

So saying EMA is reporting tomorrow or in less than 24 hours is a ruse for take-up volumes.?  

22 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

"The European Medicines Agency is expected to complete its safety review of issues relating to the AstraZeneca vaccine tomorrow".

He is a recent take up chart. Australia is around number 80 something so I'm hardly playing in a take-up race game Wayne.

You say "appalling the vaccine takeup has been in Europe"   BUT omitting EU start with approval took longer and I see over half the Top 20 here are European.  

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12 hours ago, Waynemarlow said:

Using a Jack conspiracy theory, is it just a get out ruse for how appalling the vaccine takeup has been in Europe.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/15/evidence-oxford-vaccine-blood-clots-data-causal-links

And to finish you off.

So you are saying in effect the EU has more AZ clots and the UK more AZ jabs at 17.4 million

Except the EU has administered many more AZ jabs than the UK has and you are one of 17.4m clots who voted to destroy your own country.

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4 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

And to finish you off.

So you are saying in effect the EU has more AZ clots and the UK more AZ jabs at 17.4 million

Except the EU has administered many more AZ jabs than the UK has and you are one of 17.4m clots who voted to destroy your own country.

 

Nope didn't say any of that, simply saying blood thrombosis clots are the norm, not just after AZ vaccinations. Did you know Pfizer has about the same number of thrombosis in the over all population and yet no problems of countries withdrawing vaccines ?

50 million vaccinations out of 750 million living in the EU, 25 miilion vaccinations out of 66 million living in the UK, I know which area I would sooner live in. Its going to be a long spring and summer of Covid problems in the EU unless they get their vaccination acts together.

Have we destroyed our country by having a clot, thats news to me ;)

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They do not suspend AZ because it is not effective, they are pausing it to investigate some above normal deaths.
It could be that the sudden appearance of blot cloths in young woman brains can be because of faulty production of a batch or even that it is a normal risk with AZ in general and not Pfizer, it is very low but still good to investigate.
But media and correct backgrounds...

There was one faulty batch before and that was caught before distribution, and that was kept relatively quiet.
And it is not only Eu countries pausing it.

Over here a thrombosis specialist was on Monday against pausing it, then she did see the latest numbers and U turned. Young woman dying is not good.

German institute explanation;
https://twitter.com/olivernmoody/status/1371824738541129728

 

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6 hours ago, Waynemarlow said:

Have we destroyed our country by having a clot, thats news to me

Wayne you have 17.4 clots.

You don't join the dots very well do you. This is another woosh moment for you.

AZ have said 17 million jabs given.

Where did I pluck the figure 17.4 million from ..........I recall a 17.4m or 52% in 2016'.

11 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Except the EU has administered many more AZ jabs than the UK has and you are one of 17.4m clots who voted to destroy your own country.

 

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5 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Wayne you have 17.4 clots.

You don't join the dots very well do you. This is another woosh moment for you.

AZ have said 17 million jabs given.

Where did I pluck the figure 17.4 million from ..........I recall a 17.4m or 52% in 2016'.

 

So tenuous it could only be made up by Junkie Jack on Brexit Crack.

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3 hours ago, LeoV said:

It could be that the sudden appearance of blot cloths in young woman brains can be because of faulty production of a batch or even that it is a normal risk with AZ in general and not Pfizer, it is very low but still good to investigate

In Australia we got this explanation as Health Agency is not pausing AZ rollout (AZ is manufactured in Aust). There is something about platens and clotting being a  issue occurring in around 5% of people. The issue is whether these deaths or clotting reactions are caused by vaccine or is a coincidences of someone who has this condition and taking vaccine.

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At least Spitting image will be able to use the puppet again..

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58 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

BREAKING NEWS....sorry no linky yet.

Cummings to appear before a committee of high ranking MP's to tell all...that's all so far.

Don’t get too excited, He won’t be telling the truth. 

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All you true ocean Racing Anarchists, eg Jack, Fiji, Cms, Leo etc,  please give this (and other similar threads) away and come back to the real world.

We miss you.

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1 hour ago, mad said:
2 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

BREAKING NEWS....sorry no linky yet.

Cummings to appear before a committee of high ranking MP's to tell all...that's all so far.

Don’t get too excited, He won’t be telling the truth

He has to show up first. Last time in 2018??. He appeared for the first round, bullshitted, then for the second round told them to get fucked and was in contempt of Parliament.

Dominic Cummings found in contempt of parliament   Digital, Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) Committee

 

Seems this time it is the all-party Science and Technology Select Committee. I thought it might be a internal Tory thing where he was out to drop the beans on say Frost.

Dominic Cummings: Boris Johnson's former chief adviser set to break silence after Downing Street departure

Might be entertaining if he shows up.

"The committee is chaired by Tory MP Greg Clark, the pro-Remain former cabinet minister against whom Mr Cummings is said to have launched a foul-mouthed tirade ahead of a key Brexit vote in 2019.

Mr Cummings was reported to have told Mr Clark, who was business secretary under Theresa May: "When are you f***ing MPs going to realise we are leaving on October 31? We are going to purge you."

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Fuck Cummings is up now started at 9.30 am local.

Science and Technology Committee hearing

https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/0e6bc08b-5aee-47c7-af4d-57bea66d7d7f

10 mins in HE claims the terms he set for PM to get him to go and work for him, in a chat in his living room, and described Whitehall as a 'disaster zone'

Sounding like he is delivering up a nice dead cat to take other shit off the FP's for BumHead.

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^^^^^ Might have to revise that dead cat idea...maybe he doesn't want to go under a bus??

Dept of Health was a 'smoking ruin' in terms of PPE and procurement, says Vallance + Sedwill + himself decided to take vaccine programme out of Dept of Health and do everything differently

Cummings also says there has to be a 'very hard look' in 'this building' at what went wrong in govt handling of Covid - sounds like all for a full proper inquiry

Copied from ToryLaura as I haven't listened to it all yet.

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And if you were Johnson needing a dead cat for something then that something could be this.

NHS has written to local health organisations warning of a 'significant reduction in weekly supply' of the vaccine

This is from week beginning March 29th for a month. Closing unfilled bookings from March 29th. Under 50s should not be offered vaccination except in “exceptional circumstances” 

 

Yet Hancock just up indicating rollout is on track where in realty it is now  on focusing on maximising cohorts 1-9 or over 50's and no mention that under 50's stopped because of this vaccine supply shortage.

This from the FT before this news.

Is the next news the EU have stopped supply???

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And Ursula is upsetting No 10 and Raab by suggesting that the EU wants to see some reciprocity of vaccine supply between EU and UK. All one way since the outset. Says all measures will be considered. UK cries "but you promised ..."

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8 hours ago, DtM said:

All you true ocean Racing Anarchists, eg Jack, Fiji, Cms, Leo etc,  please give this (and other similar threads) away and come back to the real world.

We miss you.

Unfortunately for some of us, this is very much the real world.

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24 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

And if you were Johnson needing a dead cat for something then that something could be this.

NHS has written to local health organisations warning of a 'significant reduction in weekly supply' of the vaccine

This is from week beginning March 29th for a month. Closing unfilled bookings from March 29th. Under 50s should not be offered vaccination except in “exceptional circumstances” 

 

Yet Hancock just up indicating rollout is on track where in realty it is now  on focusing on maximising cohorts 1-9 or over 50's and no mention that under 50's stopped because of this vaccine supply shortage.

This from the FT before this news.

Is the next news the EU have stopped supply???

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All the under 50's now get to wait and see when they'll get theirs.

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Next time I hear Johnson say "our friends and neighbours" I will definitely throw up.

PMQ's remarkably civilised today as Starmer concentrated on woman, violence and the law giving Johnson little wriggle room to lie.

He did catch Johnson out though with one well thought out zinger. Starmer gave 3 examples by names of sentences average 7 years...setting the trap.

Johnson couldn't help himself saying Labour voted against Bill yesterday with higher sentences.

Starmer's reply......that Bill was 10 years for damaging a statue.

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"These six last weeks, 41 million doses have been exported [from the EU] to 33 countries. And this shows that Europe is trying to make international cooperation work," she said. "But open roads run in both directions. And this is why we need to ensure that there is reciprocity and proportionality."

If the EU doesn't see such reciprocity, she added, "we will have to reflect on how to make exports to vaccine-producing countries dependent on their level of openness."

Besides reciprocity, the EU should consider the principle of "proportionality" when deciding whether to allow exports, von der Leyen said: "We will reflect on whether exports to countries who have higher vaccination rates than us are still proportionate."

Asked which countries this principle might cover, von der Leyen cited the U.K., which she said was the "No. 1" destination for EU vaccine exports, while not sending any shots back in the other direction.

"We have observed that in the last six weeks, actually 10 million doses by now have been exported to the U.K.," she said. "We're still waiting for doses to come from the U.K."

https://www.politico.eu/article/ursula-von-der-leyen-coronavirus-vaccine-exports-eu-fair-share/

Expect for the future this will count for more regarding medicines,  for instance radioactive isotopes for cancer treatments. Was talked about years ago, an unfriendly UK can not be send sparse materials needed in some pats of the EU.
 

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Yeah, in short AZ and EU are having a spat on why the UK is getting more from EU production sites.
UK jumps on bandwagon of AZ and ridicules the EU.

Reminder more countries have problems with AZ style of doing business, Swiss and USA. Not approved.

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and yet another potential brexit result : the EU about to agree on a vaccination certificate (or whatever you call it) and the consequence would be that travel restrictions with the UK might be on a country by country base unless there can be some reciprocity between EU and britanistan ... and given current reprocity shenanigans on vaccines the one might influence that other.

My britanistani friends who keep their yot in Greece might be fucked, but I suppose the Hellanistani governement will give them a pass, but my britanistani neighbour keeping his yot next to mine might be royally fucked if he thinks he can come by in may or june, I hope things get get sorted, both examples being on the no brexit side but suffering from the consequences ... yeah, right, 48/52, democraZy

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3 hours ago, mad said:

All the under 50's now get to wait and see when they'll get theirs.

 The mortality rate is so low in the under 50's that is there that much urgency. Incidentally my nurse friend who is on the front line with syringes in hand, had said that she was being warned that supplies would slow down but just today she's been advised business as usual tomorrow with a big push in a couple of weeks.

Its being reported on the Radio tonight that in the London area in the last 24 hours theres only been 1 death from Covid. I hope that is the case.

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2 hours ago, LeoV said:

"We have observed that in the last six weeks, actually 10 million doses by now have been exported to the U.K.," she said. "We're still waiting for doses to come from the U.K."

If we did send out supplies, what would you do with them, stick them in a fridge along with all the other millions of shots that haven't yet been used ?

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30 minutes ago, Waynemarlow said:

If we did send out supplies, what would you do with them, stick them in a fridge along with all the other millions of shots that haven't yet been used ?

Really Whyane...what do you know about a thing called 'comparative trajectories'?

About the same as the reasons you voted leave?

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UK conspiracy nutters. Ask the UK how many they had in a fridge and how many they tossed away ?

UK is becoming a fringe state at the EU border.
With statements like this;
“It is the EU that by trying to erect a barrier down the Irish Sea between Northern Ireland and Great Britain that is challenging the spirit of Northern Ireland Protocol and the Good Friday agreement.”


Raab accusing the EU of trying to implement a treaty the UK government agreed? On St Patrick's Day?

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44 minutes ago, Waynemarlow said:

...Incidentally my nurse friend who is on the front line with syringes in hand, had said that she was being warned that supplies would slow down but just today she's been advised business as usual tomorrow with a big push in a couple of weeks......

Yes another; "my nurse friend......just today she's been advised business as usual tomorrow with a big push in a couple of weeks"......but she hasn't read this NHS letter dated today, because she isn't on their mailing list, saying its only a push to mop up the cohorts 1-9 or over 50's ONLY, with the reduced weekly stock that is going to be available until May.  

4 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

NHS has written to local health organisations warning of a 'significant reduction in weekly supply' of the vaccine

This is from week beginning March 29th for a month. Closing unfilled bookings from March 29th. Under 50s should not be offered vaccination except in “exceptional circumstances.....

 

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14 minutes ago, LeoV said:

Raab accusing the EU of trying to implement a treaty the UK government agreed? On St Patrick's Day?

The same Raab who while working in a law firm in Brussels, advised on law about the European Union and the World Trade Organisation.

I wonder if they got their money back??

 

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1 hour ago, jack_sparrow said:
2 hours ago, Waynemarlow said:

...Incidentally my nurse friend who is on the front line with syringes in hand, had said that she was being warned that supplies would slow down but just today she's been advised business as usual tomorrow with a big push in a couple of weeks......

Yes another; "my nurse friend......just today she's been advised business as usual tomorrow with a big push in a couple of weeks"......but she hasn't read this NHS letter dated today, because she isn't on their mailing list, saying its only a push to mop up the cohorts 1-9 or over 50's ONLY, with the reduced weekly stock that is going to be available until May.  

Another one of Wayne's mythical friends from the mythical pub.

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11 hours ago, LeoV said:

"It is the EU that by trying to erect a barrier down the Irish Sea between Northern Ireland and Great Britain.....”

Raab accusing the EU.....

Best comment I have read about Raab there.

"He’ll be absolutely furious when he finds out it was his boss’s idea."

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11 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Yes another; "my nurse friend......just today she's been advised business as usual tomorrow with a big push in a couple of weeks"......but she hasn't read this NHS letter dated today, because she isn't on their mailing list, saying its only a push to mop up the cohorts 1-9 or over 50's ONLY, with the reduced weekly stock that is going to be available until May.  

 

Considering that a number of areas have already pushed into the 45 - 50 year old groups ( the area next to me certainly has ) it would not seem unreasonable for those at the top to be pushing to complete groups 1 -9 totally, after all it was where the vast majority of deaths were taking place. Seems good management making right decisions for once considering the debacle described by Cummings in the early part of the outbreak.

Rumour is that the top brass of the vaccination program is trying to get 1 big day of 1 million vaccinations and is trying to get all the kit and capable hands in place ready for that.

Mythical nurses, nah I deal in the real world, unlike so many of the posters here who are just keyboard warriors. 
 

Interesting stats from London.

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28 minutes ago, Waynemarlow said:

it would not seem unreasonable for those at the top to be pushing to complete groups 1 -9 totally, after all it was where the vast majority of deaths were taking place.

That wasn't the plan.

Cohorts 1-9 or over 50's might be where the "vast majority of deaths were taking place" 

BUT

That grouping are NOT the ones that SPREAD the majority of infections.

AND

As cases can occupy general and acute hospital places adding further pressure, albeit with a lower mortality rate 

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