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9 hours ago, dg_sailingfan said:

Two-Part Interview with Ben Ainslie by Justin Grisholm of "Yacht Racing Life"

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https://yachtracing.life/ben-ainslie-interview-part-1/

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https://yachtracing.life/ben-ainslie-interview-part-2/

I am very disappointed in INEOS as Challenger of Record. They seem just to be a "Poodle CoR" like Mascalzone & Australia were for OTUSA. They have basically waived all the Rights a CoR usually has.

And Bens Comments in Part 2 when he basically says quote "We are just there to help" when it comes to the Protocol doesn't sit well with me!

Chisholm… 

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shes legit ... foil arm looks to be in the front end of the box ... opposite of all other teams ... what are we going to read into that?

ETNZ are probably favorites .....but win or lose....Team New Zealand have firmly established themselves as the all time great AC nation in the modern era.   From the time they first emerged, they have

Slowly working through yesterday's lot

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We don't know how much push back there is by INEOS behind closed doors, they just aren't standing up in public and making a scene. That didn't work so well for Luna Rossa after all.

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On 8/20/2021 at 9:34 AM, dg_sailingfan said:

Yeah, but the Italians in AC36 defended their rights as CoR waaay more than the Brits are doing at this Point!

And look where that got them. Number one on Dalts' shit list and vilified unjustly.

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On 8/20/2021 at 9:34 AM, dg_sailingfan said:

Yeah, but the Italians in AC36 defended their rights as CoR waaay more than the Brits are doing at this Point!

And look where that got them. Number one on Dalts' shit list and vilified unjustly.

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Great news for Hannah, and she's back with Sail GP UK.

And backed by RC

"Ainslie says this is likely to change and that the SailGP management team, led by Russell Coutts who is enthusiastically backing the women’s America’s Cup programme, is exploring ways to create a viable long term structure for women sailors to take part in the racing."

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/its-inspiring-olympic-champion-hannah-mills-welcomes-new-womens-americas-cup-rpvtwzrsk

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12 hours ago, NeedAClew said:

But other teams have women developing too. Is she racing this season? Are any of them?

They've invited her back so she must have made an impression and Ineos are sponsoring a team. She could be a real asset.

Interesting Ian Percy's outfit is sharing the same tent in Sail GP St T as GB and he gave a short joint video PR number with Ben. Bringing Ian to their AC campaign would be great, he'd be perfect.

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On 9/11/2021 at 9:48 AM, chesirecat said:

They've invited her back so she must have made an impression and Ineos are sponsoring a team. She could be a real asset.

Interesting Ian Percy's outfit is sharing the same tent in Sail GP St T as GB and he gave a short joint video PR number with Ben. Bringing Ian to their AC campaign would be great, he'd be perfect.

You wonder if Ben has signed up his good buddy Iain as new CEO? That would make the most sense of all senses!

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On 9/12/2021 at 2:37 PM, dg_sailingfan said:

You wonder if Ben has signed up his good buddy Iain as new CEO? That would make the most sense of all senses!

Percy is working with the Danish team.

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3 hours ago, Potter said:

Percy is working with the Danish team.

Doesn't matter! Probably only for this Season which ends March 2022. If you think Percy would reject Ben if he offers him the Job of CEO at INEOS AC Team you are pretty naive!

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5 hours ago, dg_sailingfan said:

Doesn't matter! Probably only for this Season which ends March 2022. If you think Percy would reject Ben if he offers him the Job of CEO at INEOS AC Team you are pretty naive!

Your previous statement sounded like you were referring to SailGP, not the AC. 

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4 minutes ago, Potter said:

Your previous statement sounded like you were referring to SailGP, not the AC. 

For all that we know thus far is that Grant Simmer is OUT at the INEOS TEAM UK AC CoR. Percy would be a prefect fit to replace him. Ben needs someone he can trust!

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5 hours ago, chesirecat said:

Official, we have movement.

The Inside Tack Show returns 4th October 12:30PM LIVE
Sign up to exclusively watch Ben Ainslie + special guests reveal the team that will lead Britain’s challenge for the 37th America's Cup
 

No histrionics?

No disgruntled millionaires?

No spat all over the media?

No toys out of the pram?

No threatened legal actions?

Ben will never win it this way. He should have learned from GD

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38 minutes ago, enigmatically2 said:

No histrionics?

No disgruntled millionaires?

No spat all over the media?

No toys out of the pram?

No threatened legal actions?

Ben will never win it this way. He should have learned from GD

Red bull and Ferrari are going to protest to the FIA and have lawyers writing to the NYSC asking them for a delay in announcement as they want to submit a tender to be COR as it’s just not fair that INEOS have a thing and they don’t.

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8 hours ago, chesirecat said:

Official, we have movement.

The Inside Tack Show returns 4th October 12:30PM LIVE
Sign up to exclusively watch Ben Ainslie + special guests reveal the team that will lead Britain’s challenge for the 37th America's Cup
 

I've read the Show is coming from the Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Headquarters in Brackley, UK not from their Team Base in Portsmouth.

This is a massive hint IMO. Could Toto Wolff really be the new CEO for the British Challenger of Record.

It's getting obvious now that Bens new AC75 Race Yacht to race in the CSS & potential AC Match 2024 will be entirely designed by the Merc Guys.

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as said earlier they have been recruiting staff for the AC design to the Brackley location for months now so its not a huge shocker or world exclusive.

 

don't worry DG you will have a home team to support and you can re start your Alinghi forever forum name too as they are recruiting too, they will want a head of media relations...

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1 minute ago, JALhazmat said:

as said earlier they have been recruiting staff for the AC design to the Brackley location for months now so its not a huge shocker or world exclusive.

 

don't worry DG you will have a home team to support and you can re start your Alinghi forever forum name too as they are recruiting too, they will want a head of media relations...

I don't like Ernesto who will go nowhere in AC37! This isn't the same AC when he left it in 2010.

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There's been talk they've scooped AM's designer Marcelino Botin.  He's someone who brings the necessary X factor and of note his family could certainly fund a AC hosting.

Merc is now a full partner with Ineos as CoR so a  full on commitment.

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2 hours ago, chesirecat said:

There's been talk they've scooped AM's designer Marcelino Botin.  He's someone who brings the necessary X factor and of note his family could certainly fund a AC hosting.

Merc is now a full partner with Ineos as CoR so a  full on commitment.

So, which is it? Botin is signed up with Ineos or with Alingi?

Alinghi Challenge AC37 - Page 2 - America's Cup Anarchy - Sailing Anarchy Forums

 

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21 minutes ago, Stingray~ said:

So, which is it? Botin is signed up with Ineos or with Alingi?

Alinghi Challenge AC37 - Page 2 - America's Cup Anarchy - Sailing Anarchy Forums

 

We will know on Oct 4th.

Ratcliffe implemented decisive decisions the day of their last race. TH mentioned protecting their IP shortly after their last race and the effective end of their campaign. If Ineos wanted Botin he would have gone in there and then, and got his team - If.

On the other hand perhaps Merc are doing it all, they include  high performance sailing as part of their applied science and this time they aren't on the back foot.

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11 minutes ago, chesirecat said:

We will know on Oct 4th.

Ratcliffe implemented decisive decisions the day of their last race. TH mentioned protecting their IP shortly after their last race and the effective end of their campaign. If Ineos wanted Botin he would have gone in there and then, and got his team - If.

On the other hand perhaps Merc are doing it all, they include  high performance sailing as part of their applied science and this time they aren't on the back foot.

Botin has a long history with AM and their backers in the TP52 Super Series and in the Maxi's. AM did announce Scott Ferguson as a 'Design Coordinator' but it will surprise me if Botin has now signed with either Alinghi or Ineos. If Alinghi (as is the rumor with Holroyd) then that would be pretty big news, a strong indication that EB is a Go. 

Somewhat related: In Zaal's terrific transcription into English of a video interview that included Max, he wrote that there are 24 (34?) designers already busy in Cagliari. 

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10 minutes ago, Stingray~ said:

Botin has a long history with AM and their backers in the TP52 Super Series and in the Maxi's. AM did announce Scott Ferguson as a 'Design Coordinator' but it will surprise me if Botin has now signed with either Alinghi or Ineos. If Alinghi (as is the rumor with Holroyd) then that would be pretty big news, a strong indication that EB is a Go. 

Just looked on AM page and he's still there along with Barker and just about everybody, but there's no mention of him in regards "News" Ferguson/design team. Talking of which AM are quiet these days.

https://americanmagic.americascup.com/en/team

https://americanmagic.americascup.com/en/news/93_DESIGN-WORK-RESUMES-FOR-AMERICAN-MAGIC-SCOTT-FERGUSON-USA-NAMED-DESIGN-COORDINATOR.html

Be great if EB was in.

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32 minutes ago, chesirecat said:

Just looked on AM page and he's still there along with Barker and just about everybody, but there's no mention of him in regards "News" Ferguson/design team. Talking of which AM are quiet these days.

https://americanmagic.americascup.com/en/team

https://americanmagic.americascup.com/en/news/93_DESIGN-WORK-RESUMES-FOR-AMERICAN-MAGIC-SCOTT-FERGUSON-USA-NAMED-DESIGN-COORDINATOR.html

Be great if EB was in.

I don't think that Team List from AM is Up-To-Date anymore mate! They still have Goodison in their and there are some Rumors he has signed on with Ben for AC37!

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5 minutes ago, NeedAClew said:

Supposing EB is paying for AM, what yacht club would they represent? 

Do you mean 'supposing EB is paying for an AM boat'? And 'what yacht Club would EB represent'? 

My guess is EB would represent the new SNGL. :D

 

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Has anyone actually SEEN the challenge from Royal Whatever? Not read about it, nor split hairs over is it the same as Royal Whazzit, seen the document.

Who challenged? How was it signed?

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Just now, NeedAClew said:

Has anyone actually SEEN the challenge from Royal Whatever? Not read about it, nor split hairs over is it the same as Royal Whazzit, seen the document.

Who challenged? How was it signed?

Good luck finding that!

IF it goes to court somehow we will see it and the subsequent one turned in by Culver and the NYYC, apparently hand-delivered at the RNZYS for them by HR. 

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17 minutes ago, dg_sailingfan said:

I don't think that Team List from AM is Up-To-Date anymore mate! They still have Goodison in their and there are some Rumors he has signed on with Ben for AC37!

Yes agree -  its a slow day. Wouldn't be surprised (ie would love to see)  to see Hannah Mills in as well. She has that rare conversion ability plus she's half the weight of the guys which is a significant advantage.

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So all the drama may be about 

"Royal Whazzit, the racing arm of the venerable Royal Whatever, challenges on behalf of Royal Whatever, inventor of the Starboard Tack Rule, as represented by Golden Ben's Boyz." 

Other one might just have been "You know who the fuck we are we are the Fucking NYYC and we challenge because we want OUR sainted mug back. We have more space in the model room. We'll be represented by whoever, no need to figure that out because we are NYYC."  PS losers need not apply. 

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4 minutes ago, chesirecat said:

Yes agree -  its a slow day. Wouldn't be surprised (ie would love to see)  to see Hannah Mills in as well. She has that rare conversion ability plus she's half the weight of the guys which is a significant advantage.

Well, having that Inside Track Show in Brackley instead of Portsmouth tells us quite a lot already, don't you think? Applied Science will have a lot more say in the new AC75 Version 2 Boat then in the Boat that raced in the Prada Cup this year.

Maybe Ben announces Dylan Fletcher and Stu Bithell as new additions?

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1 hour ago, dg_sailingfan said:

Well, having that Inside Track Show in Brackley instead of Portsmouth tells us quite a lot already, don't you think? Applied Science will have a lot more say in the new AC75 Version 2 Boat then in the Boat that raced in the Prada Cup this year.

Maybe Ben announces Dylan Fletcher and Stu Bithell as new additions?

Yes, their performance at the Games was outstanding, especially keeping their cool and excellent coms. That medal race was quite something and possibly not unnoticed up high.

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6 hours ago, dg_sailingfan said:

Well, having that Inside Track Show in Brackley instead of Portsmouth tells us quite a lot already, don't you think? Applied Science will have a lot more say in the new AC75 Version 2 Boat then in the Boat that raced in the Prada Cup this year.

Maybe Ben announces Dylan Fletcher and Stu Bithell as new additions?

It tells you that design and build under one roof is likely a better option…

as for Portsmouth base being closed down? It’s tricky to go sailing at Brackley…( no you can’t put an AC75 on Rutland water)

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17 hours ago, dg_sailingfan said:

Could Toto Wolff really be the new CEO for the British Challenger of Record.

 

Unlikely, but if he did it would get a huge amount of publicity and I suspect new viewers for the AC. Ineos are just another sponsor for the Mercedes - not even the title sponsor, so their involvement doesn't get much attention. But Toto is probably the best known figure from F1 who doesn't sit in a car on race day. If he took over the sailing operation then it would be mentioned on every F1 show, blog and article. 

 

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19 minutes ago, JALhazmat said:

INEOS are actually a third owner of the F1 team so a bit more than just a sponsor 

Daimler, Toto and INEOS 

I just meant that in audience perception terms they are just another sponsor

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On 9/24/2021 at 3:25 AM, chesirecat said:

Yes, their performance at the Games was outstanding, especially keeping their cool and excellent coms. That medal race was quite something and possibly not unnoticed up high.

Since every Challenger is required to field a Women's AC Team I wonder if Hannah Mills taking up that gig!

The Inside Track Show is just 5 Days before the Spanish SailGP Event and Mills is slated to be in Spain so maybe she will also be a Guest on that October 4th?

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5 hours ago, dg_sailingfan said:

Since every Challenger is required to field a Women's AC Team I wonder if Hannah Mills taking up that gig!

The Inside Track Show is just 5 Days before the Spanish SailGP Event and Mills is slated to be in Spain so maybe she will also be a Guest on that October 4th?

Be ace wouldn't it.

These 40's are smart concept giving women sailors a pathway to a high profile series and so better access to sponsorship and pro circuits. Interestingly one way of reducing significant AC75 costs is cutting down on grinders via more battery power. It could be the 40's will have similar crew numbers to the AC75's so teams could run two or more 40's with all the benefits that incurs. Be right up Mercs street, or track one should say.

On the TE show, well the bit I was actually listening to, he mentioned the rumour of Tom Slingsby joining Ineos. That would be something. James S talked about TS being underrated and very smart during their Oracle AC campaign. He mentioned everything Tom suggested turned out to be right and they should have listened to him sooner. Having someone able to communicate effectively with the design and engineering teams is crucial so he will be perfect with Merc.

 

Roll on Oct 4th.

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9 hours ago, chesirecat said:

Be ace wouldn't it.

These 40's are smart concept giving women sailors a pathway to a high profile series and so better access to sponsorship and pro circuits. Interestingly one way of reducing significant AC75 costs is cutting down on grinders via more battery power. It could be the 40's will have similar crew numbers to the AC75's so teams could run two or more 40's with all the benefits that incurs. Be right up Mercs street, or track one should say.

On the TE show, well the bit I was actually listening to, he mentioned the rumour of Tom Slingsby joining Ineos. That would be something. James S talked about TS being underrated and very smart during their Oracle AC campaign. He mentioned everything Tom suggested turned out to be right and they should have listened to him sooner. Having someone able to communicate effectively with the design and engineering teams is crucial so he will be perfect with Merc.

 

Roll on Oct 4th.

How can Slingsby joining INEOS or does he have a British Passport? Slingers joining Ben would definitly be the icing on the cake given that these two basically single-handily pulled Oracle Team USA back from the brink in AC34 with their smart Decison-Making! Where does this leave Giles Scott though? If Ben/Tom/Giles are ending up on the same Team it might end up in a fight, lol:D?

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43 minutes ago, dg_sailingfan said:

How can Slingsby joining INEOS or does he have a British Passport? Slingers joining Ben would definitly be the icing on the cake given that these two basically single-handily pulled Oracle Team USA back from the brink in AC34 with their smart Decison-Making! Where does this leave Giles Scott though? If Ben/Tom/Giles are ending up on the same Team it might end up in a fight, lol:D?

Maybe Slingers is being hired as a coach, rather than part of the racing crew. Who sails on the boat when not racing in an official event doesn’t matter.

And by the way, until we have a Protocol, we don’t definitively know the final crew nationality requirements, despite what has been said up to this date.

This was all in Article 10 of the Protocol for AC 36. There will be an analogous article in the Protocol for AC37.

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2 minutes ago, accnick said:

Maybe Slingers is being hired as a coach, rather than part of the racing crew. Who sails on the boat when not racing in an official event doesn’t matter.

And by the way, until we have a Protocol, we don’t definitively know the final crew nationality requirements, despite what has been said up to this date.

This was all in Article 10 of the Protocol for AC 36. There will be an analogous article in the Protocol for AC37.

From March 17 2021

https://emirates-team-new-zealand.americascup.com/en/news/521_CHALLENGE-ACCEPTED.html

A new Crew Nationality Rule will require 100% of the race crew for each competitor to either be a passport holder of the country the team’s yacht club as at 19 March 2021 or to have been physically present in that country (or, acting on behalf of such yacht club in Auckland, the venue of the AC36 Events) for two of the previous three years prior to 18 March 2021. As an exception to this requirement, there will be a discretionary provision allowing a quota of non-nationals on the race crew for competitors from “Emerging Nations”.

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@accnick

I can't see Slingsby demoting himself to be a Sailing Coach. More likely is given Ben is getting older he becomes the Sailing Team Manager, maybe even CEO of the Team and lets Slingsby drive his AC75!

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7 minutes ago, dg_sailingfan said:

@accnick

I can't see Slingsby demoting himself to be a Sailing Coach. More likely is given Ben is getting older he becomes the Sailing Team Manager, maybe even CEO of the Team and lets Slingsby drive his AC75!

Only if he meets whatever the final nationality requirements of the Protocol happen to be.

The nationality requirements are likely to keep some of the world’s best sailors off any AC racing boat for the Cup itself. A highly-paid coaching job may keep some of them in the game.

Those jobs typically permit you to do other racing, such as SailGP.

Of course, we don’t know the terms of any other sailing contracts they might have, so this is just speculation at this point.

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11 minutes ago, dg_sailingfan said:

@accnick

I can't see Slingsby demoting himself to be a Sailing Coach. More likely is given Ben is getting older he becomes the Sailing Team Manager, maybe even CEO of the Team and lets Slingsby drive his AC75!

He's got the Sailgp gig. But a sporting career can be short so a bit more income won't go amiss. And unless he has moved to UK, he won't be driving the Brit AC75

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3 minutes ago, enigmatically2 said:

He's got the Sailgp gig. But a sporting career can be short so a bit more income won't go amiss. And unless he has moved to UK, he won't be driving the Brit AC75

Ainslie would be rougly at Barkers Age [50] (Dean was 51 in Auckland this year driving AM) if he drives the Boat in AC37. Ben is too old for that stuff & complex Boat. Why the heck give not someone younger a chance?

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4 minutes ago, enigmatically2 said:

He's got the Sailgp gig. But a sporting career can be short so a bit more income won't go amiss. And unless he has moved to UK, he won't be driving the Brit AC75

It’s even more tricky, as he is an Aussie for SailGP purposes.

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Just now, dg_sailingfan said:

Ainslie would be rougly at Barkers Age [50] (Dean was 51 in Auckland this year driving AM) if he drives the Boat in AC37. Ben is too old for that stuff & complex Boat. Why the heck give not someone younger a chance?

Because he is still one of the best sailors in the world, and it’s his sailing team.

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1 hour ago, accnick said:

Only if he meets whatever the final nationality requirements of the Protocol happen to be.

Maybe the British team will get 'emerging nation' status after their last two dismal efforts...

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2 hours ago, dg_sailingfan said:

@accnick

I can't see Slingsby demoting himself to be a Sailing Coach. More likely is given Ben is getting older he becomes the Sailing Team Manager, maybe even CEO of the Team and lets Slingsby drive his AC75!

Going off what James S was saying, I think it'll be more interfacing between the sailing team and Merc. Its a crucial link, ie in MotoGp and F1 the best rider/drivers are able to consistently and accurately  translate the machine's nuances into the right technical area and from what Jimmy was saying about Tom, coming up with solutions ahead of the game. In sailing it's imperative to develop a "language" and this language becomes a key part converting performance into those micor gains which turns into wins. Tom would be a great asset here.

 

If they get him and Ian Percy thats some team.

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3 minutes ago, chesirecat said:

Going off what James S was saying, I think it'll be more interfacing between the sailing team and Merc. Its a crucial link, ie in MotoGp and F1 the best rider/drivers are able to consistently and accurately  translate the machine's nuances into the right technical area and from what Jimmy was saying about Tom, coming up with solutions ahead of the game. In sailing it's imperative to develop a "language" and this language becomes a key part converting performance into those micor gains which turns into wins. Tom would be a great asset here.

TS would be a great asset for any AC program.

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3 minutes ago, accnick said:

TS would be a great asset for any AC program.

As would GA.

I think I (tried to) post this earlier, was in a place upgrading that iPhone at the time, may not have gone through. Anyway:

Someone posted during TE's show yesterday that he thinks TS's father is English; TS may have dual nationality.

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4 hours ago, chesirecat said:

Going off what James S was saying, I think it'll be more interfacing between the sailing team and Merc. Its a crucial link, ie in MotoGp and F1 the best rider/drivers are able to consistently and accurately  translate the machine's nuances into the right technical area and from what Jimmy was saying about Tom, coming up with solutions ahead of the game. In sailing it's imperative to develop a "language" and this language becomes a key part converting performance into those micor gains which turns into wins. Tom would be a great asset here.

 

If they get him and Ian Percy thats some team.

Well, the Teams in SailGP also after Season 3 have to find some Sponsors. Maybe Slingers is out after 2022.

I agree Percy would be a good CEO though I can't see him doing it!

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On 9/24/2021 at 12:34 AM, Stingray~ said:

Botin has a long history with AM and their backers in the TP52 Super Series and in the Maxi's. AM did announce Scott Ferguson as a 'Design Coordinator' but it will surprise me if Botin has now signed with either Alinghi or Ineos. If Alinghi (as is the rumor with Holroyd) then that would be pretty big news, a strong indication that EB is a Go. 

Somewhat related: In Zaal's terrific transcription into English of a video interview that included Max, he wrote that there are 24 (34?) designers already busy in Cagliari. 

Thanks ! :) I think they were 34 / 35 I have to check in the video but it's too long (1 hour and 16) 

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9 hours ago, Zaal said:

Thanks ! :) I think they were 34 / 35 I have to check in the video but it's too long (1 hour and 16) 

Please don't worry, either number means a lot to the larger point. And thanks again for the translation! 

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Yes it’s a tad predictable his INEOS coverage,

Slag them off during the Christmas cup, suck up while they’re winning in the hope they will ignore the bullshit he was talking and putting into the mainstream press and now were in that limbo period where he doesn’t know whether he’s coming or going what is certain is that he hasn’t Got the invite to Brackley for the 4th
 

Maybe if he’s lucky Grant will get him an MIQ space and have him down to New Zealand for their launch given what best buddies they are

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10 minutes ago, enigmatically2 said:

That article can be summarised as:

"It's not fair that they are not telling me inside gossip <stamps foot> so I'm going to suck up big time in the hope they start"

:D

The idea that Ineos Britannia will have PR managed F1 Mercedes-style does seem to have merit and maybe this 'Diaries' series is a good analogy.

 

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Maybe it will be good? from there,

As an example of what really good (looks) like, I defer to the Ineos Grenadiers, the cycling team, with their infectious humour, great social media and real insight into their lives both during the race season and into the off-season. It’s masterful. 

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@enigmatically2 & @chesirecat

INEOS Campaign for AC37 reminds me a lot of Dongfeng Race Team in the VOR 2017/18! In 2021 INEOS were the Underdogs and did better than expected reaching the Challenger Final just like Dongfeng in 2014/15.

For 2024 INEOS will be among the Favourites reaching the AC Match and maybe even win it all just like Dongfeng was in 2017/18. Can you imagine the pressure that will be applied to Ainslie, Ratcliffe and the new CEO (whoever that might be).

You almost could feel the tension, the pressure that was applied every single Leg to Charles/Pascal and in the first half of the Race they crumbled under it. It wasn't until the Auckland Stopover in 2018 when they had a Team Meeting when they finally let loose of all the anxiety.

And on the Final Leg Pascal finally got one Tactical Decision right enabling them to win the whole thing.

Expect a lot of pitfalls during the INEOS AC37 Campaign!

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Just now, JALhazmat said:

Who is applying pressure to Ratcliffe in the situation you describe? 
 

 

The Media, the Public, etc. Everyone want it!

Let's be honest with each other: This is the Final Chance Great Britain will ever have to win the AC. If they botch it, they are done!

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43 minutes ago, dg_sailingfan said:

The Media, the Public, etc. Everyone want it!

Let's be honest with each other: This is the Final Chance Great Britain will ever have to win the AC. If they botch it, they are done!

Oh no I bet he is shitting himself.. The last time he was put under pressure by the British public and striking factory workers you know what he told them? fuck off. 
 

They went back to work two days later. 

The idea the sailing media or British public would raise enough of a fuck for him to be concerned is frankly laughable

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13 hours ago, JALhazmat said:

The idea the sailing media or British public would raise enough of a fuck for him to be concerned is frankly laughable

Spot on - the only people that give a flying fuck about the AC these days are those who rely on it to top up their coffers every few years. Step forward BA who has spent  ???££££££££??? to  be the laughing stock of the AC world but sure hasn't gone pennyless as a result.   That does not go unnoticed. Seems the same in Kiwiland too but at least they got a result out of it.

Ratcliffe might be trying to sports wash what he does but that too is seen for what it is.   And does he give a FF?  

Funny old game, but it's moths to the candle.  Was way better when you simply had a couple or three billionaires having a crack at each other!

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https://www.whatpassport.com/countries/Australia/Passport_and_Nationality/British_Nationality_for_an_Australian

 

I think it could be easy for Tom S. to have a UK passport, given that there are some facilitations for Commonwealth nations. But, wasn't he rumored to sign with AM ? 

 

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16 minutes ago, JALhazmat said:

Toto will be on the launch show with Ben and Jim. 

the person not the band.. ;-) 

As I said before, if he moves from F1 to this it would be great publicity worldwide. I think he will also be good for the team

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On 9/29/2021 at 4:22 AM, Zaal said:

https://www.whatpassport.com/countries/Australia/Passport_and_Nationality/British_Nationality_for_an_Australian

 

I think it could be easy for Tom S. to have a UK passport, given that there are some facilitations for Commonwealth nations. But, wasn't he rumored to sign with AM ? 

 

I believe Tom S along with Goodie have signed with AM for AC37.

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5 hours ago, enigmatically2 said:

As I said before, if he moves from F1 to this it would be great publicity worldwide. I think he will also be good for the team

Not a chance he will step away from F1 for the AC. Way too much going on there for this to be his new gig.

I would expect he is there to explain the role and facilities being brought to bear by Merc applied science

 

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