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Just now, Zeusproject said:

I thought he was grant an honourable citizenship after the last cup 

Ha, ha. Keys to the city, at the very least.

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3 hours ago, Piet56 said:

The first one of you Mo-Fo's put's this out in a Powerpoint Presentation will be the recipient of some old fashioned, Medieval Pipe hitting........ just thought I'd pass that gem on from a friend......

Not sure what's going on, but it was @marlowe that spoke about the diagram, not me :unsure:

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8 minutes ago, 45Roller said:

Not sure what's going on, but it was @marlowe that spoke about the diagram, not me :unsure:

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Thanks 45, but as he's threatening a "medieval pipe hitting" (?) I'd prefer if you took the credit. :ph34r:

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20 minutes ago, marlowe said:

Thanks 45, but as he's threatening a "medieval pipe hitting" (?) I'd prefer if you took the credit. :ph34r:

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18 hours ago, southseasbill said:

https://emirates-team-new-zealand.americascup.com/en/team.html

Glen is listed as "Salior - Trimmer"

"Main Man" doesn't appear to be listed.

Pete is listed as helmsman, not skipper. Anybody who knows what has been going on knows that Glenn has been the skipper for the last 2 editions and is in charge of sailing activities. It's probably tellinh about the culture of the team that they don't make a point of it in the bios.

 

5 hours ago, Tornado-Cat said:

Crikey, you spend enough time here to know that Ashby is skipper and helm. Go discuss with Four :)

Have you ever been right about anything? Glenn has never been the helm, except on a limited number of occasions when Pete wasn't available. There was a story that they tried having 2 helms like LR, with Glenn helming on one side, but I never found out whether that was serious and they didn't use it in the match. Therefore, to call Glenn the helm is completely wrong.

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@jaysper

Since you spoke about Artemis in this Thread briefly like Alinghi they are probably out now with this new National Clause. Grant Dalton really did shut out the 3 Billionaires Bertarelli, Ellison and Tjornqvist.

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All this talk about Glenn's citizenship is probably pointless. Pretty sure he's done with the AC and wants to return home full time

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6 minutes ago, dg_sailingfan said:

@jaysper

Since you spoke about Artemis in this Thread briefly like Alinghi they are probably out now with this new National Clause. Grant Dalton really did shut out the 3 Billionaires Bertarelli, Ellison and Tjornqvist.

Why Ellison as well? I think the US could put on a top national team, They could even hire Spithill, who has American passport.

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6 minutes ago, strider470 said:

Why Ellison as well? I think the US could put on a top national team, They could even hire Spithill, who has American passport.

Correct.

However I think too much emphasis is being placed on the crew and not enough on the design teams.

If you believe the poms, Ainslie can foil without a boat but still went home early.

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11 minutes ago, strider470 said:

Why Ellison as well? I think the US could put on a top national team, They could even hire Spithill, who has American passport.

Unlikely I'd say with him occupied with SailGP!

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8 minutes ago, jaysper said:

Correct.

However I think too much emphasis is being placed on the crew and not enough on the design teams.

If you believe the poms, Ainslie can foil without a boat but still went home early.

Yes, theoretically Larry could mount a Challenge but I don't think he will.

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1 minute ago, dg_sailingfan said:

Unlikely I'd say with him occupied with SailGP!

Yes true, It's very unlikely he will come back, I thought you were speaking about nationality

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9 minutes ago, strider470 said:

Yes true, It's very unlikely he will come back, I thought you were speaking about nationality

I don't think the Americans have the Sailing Talent. If you look at the 1st RR Race of the Prada Cup Ben & Giles were Head and Shoulders above Barker, Campbell, Hutchinson and Goodison. They absolutely crushed them.

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8 minutes ago, dg_sailingfan said:

I don't think the Americans have the Sailing Talent. If you look at the 1st RR Race of the Prada Cup Ben & Giles were Head and Shoulders above Barker, Campbell, Hutchinson and Goodison. They absolutely crushed them.

Sure, but were Hutch and Barker really the best they could get or were they there cos of Hutches position in leadership?

I would argue they could have found plenty of more suitable candidates if sailing skills were the only criteria.

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If the next race between Ineos and ETNZ is for the AC in Britain, then If Ineos wins they will just tell GD to get lost and accept another challenge from Italy?

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1 minute ago, jaysper said:

Sure, but were Hutch and Barker really the best they could get or were they there cos of Hutches position in leadership?

I would argue they could have found plenty of more suitable candidates if sailing skills were the only criteria.

I think Hutch & Barker teamed up because of 2007. NYYC/American Magic was kind of a sort of "Feel Good Team" like Fourourselves often said.

Even before the Final Boats were launched I thought INEOS had the most upside. Yes, the Christmas Race was bad but I always was convinced that they would do better in the Prada Cup.

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30 minutes ago, dg_sailingfan said:

Unlikely I'd say with him occupied with SailGP!

If you're talking about Spithill's options, money talks, and SailGP is a very part time gig.

Anyone like Spithill with legitimate potential multiple nationalities under this proposed protocol requirement as worded (ITA, AUS, USA in his case) is a valuable commodity.

Sailors with only NZ nationality just saw their value plummet, unless they have the creds to move into a high-level non-sailing role outside NZ

NZ sailors only do it for love of country in any case, right?

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3 minutes ago, Kiwing said:

If the next race between Ineos and ETNZ is for the AC in Britain, then If Ineos wins they will just tell GD to get lost and accept another challenge from Italy?

Why from Italy? Why not Switzerland? Or better yet, the USA? It would be like old times! ;-)

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6 minutes ago, accnick said:

Anyone like Spithill with legitimate potential multiple nationalities under this proposed protocol requirement as worded (ITA, AUS, USA in his case) is a valuable commodity.

Sailors with only NZ nationality just saw their value plummet, unless they have the creds to move into a high-level non-sailing role outside NZ

Hmmmm. I not at all happy with having up and coming NZL and AUS sailors left on the beach because of this Nationality Rule. Apart from the fact that it's based on an incorrect understanding of the AC DoG, it's self-serving and unfairly career limiting.

I'd love to hear from someone like, Chris Steele on this topic.

My response will be to support SailGP to rival the AC. But they'd need to drop those shitty cats.

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2 hours ago, Sailbydate said:

My response will be to support SailGP to rival the AC.

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2 hours ago, Kiwing said:

If the next race between Ineos and ETNZ is for the AC in Britain, then If Ineos wins they will just tell GD to get lost and accept another challenge from Italy?

This is not the point I think. Btw I think the Brits would honour the agreement. But it's something so unrespectful towards the other syndicates that there will be consequences in the future.

What if they change idea and they decide that the ball is theirs and only they can play, forever?

Again, try to imagine if something like that was done to ETNZ, excluding them from an edition of the Cup, What would the Kiwi supporters think? I would like to hear.

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13 minutes ago, strider470 said:

This is not the point I think. Btw I think the Brits would honour the agreement. But it's something so unrespectful towards the other syndicates that there will be consequences in the future.

What if they change idea and they decide that the ball is theirs and only they can play, forever?

Again, try to imagine if something like that was done to ETNZ, excluding them from an edition of the Cup, What would the Kiwi supporters think? I would like to hear.

We would go fucking ape shit. ;-)

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16 minutes ago, strider470 said:

This is not the point I think. Btw I think the Brits would honour the agreement. But it's something so unrespectful towards the other syndicates that there will be consequences in the future.

What if they change idea and they decide that the ball is theirs and only they can play, forever?

Again, try to imagine if something like that was done to ETNZ, excluding them from an edition of the Cup, What would the Kiwi supporters think? I would like to hear.

Why would the Brits honour the agreement? This is an expensive game where winning is difficult. So if they won why not just tell ETNZ to take walk. I am sure the British public would go along. The other challengers would go along.

The only person pissed would be Dalts. :lol: He could join in but not sure the team would want him after that sort of cockup.

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1 hour ago, strider470 said:

Again, try to imagine if something like that was done to ETNZ, excluding them from an edition of the Cup, What would the Kiwi supporters think? I would like to hear.

The rage would be so immense you would see the fireball from space.

I would like to think the reason we haven't seen more of my fellow kiwis filled with rage is because they've fucked off out of here after the end of the cup.

But I'm not convinced.

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2 hours ago, jaysper said:

The rage would be so immense you would see the fireball from space.

I would like to think the reason we haven't seen more of my fellow kiwis filled with rage is because they've fucked off out of here after the end of the cup.

But I'm not convinced.

Judging from some comments, not necessarily Kiwi comments tho, many people don't care about the DoG or tradition or good manners when it comes to the AC. They don't even know about them. They just think "the boats are cool, RtI is cool, stability is cool, gimme crash, boom, bang". It's probably only us super nerds who see the plan as an abomination. 

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16 minutes ago, Rennmaus said:

Judging from some comments, not necessarily Kiwi comments tho, many people don't care about the DoG or tradition or good manners when it comes to the AC. They don't even know about them. They just think "the boats are cool, RtI is cool, stability is cool, gimme crash, boom, bang". It's probably only us super nerds who see the plan as an abomination. 

I can possibly forgive Etnz for a circle jerk with INEOS 1 v 1, but I wouldn't bother watching it.

However an attempt to subvert the course if subsequent ACs is utterly unforgivable.

I also think the nationality clause is self serving cuntery.

If you want to prevent Ernie from doing what he did in 2000, then just reject his entry.

But this seems far more venomous than that. 

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7 minutes ago, jaysper said:

I can possibly forgive Etnz for a circle jerk with INEOS 1 v 1, but I wouldn't bother watching it.

However an attempt to subvert the course if subsequent ACs is utterly unforgivable.

I also think the nationality clause is self serving cuntery.

If you want to prevent Ernie from doing what he did in 2000, then just reject his entry.

But this seems far more venomous than that. 

Reject on what grounds? We don’t like him? He did mean things to us? He paid people more? Yup that’s gonna stand up in court.. 

if he can’t put a team of Home grown talent together then tough shit. If he can? then he is welcome to come and play that’s all the nationality rules are doing

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38 minutes ago, jaysper said:

I can possibly forgive Etnz for a circle jerk with INEOS 1 v 1, but I wouldn't bother watching it.

However an attempt to subvert the course if subsequent ACs is utterly unforgivable.

I also think the nationality clause is self serving cuntery.

If you want to prevent Ernie from doing what he did in 2000, then just reject his entry.

But this seems far more venomous than that. 

If the 1:1 is not an AC match, but an ACWS or show race, I'd love and watch it. If a UK team wins the Cup before and then holds a 1:1 match in UK waters, I'd love and watch it. If the 1:1 match would be the next Cup race and be held in NZ waters, I'd love and watch it. These would all be DoG compliant, tradition compliant scenarios.
But whoring out the venue to the Challenger's waters is super contrary to what ETNZ stands for and has (ab)used to lure in its fan base - Kiwi pride.

Not to mention having any provisions for AC38 in the AC37 protocol - absolutely abhorrent (if it will happen that way at all). Who is behind that, my "friend" Hamish Ross, who once told the world that the RNZYS is not a DoG compliant yacht club?

Same with the nat. rules for sailors: Neither the DoG not tradition mandate a certain nationality for the hired hands. Any protocol (yes, also the proto for AC36) having a nat. clause for the sailors does not look like what GS envisaged. Having (ha!) a designers' nat. clause would be more in the spirit of the Deed: "My country can build a faster boat than yours".

Anyway, we will have a lot of "fun" with the protocol once published, and possibly a lot of frustration with ETNZ/RNZYS in the future. It's a BMWO déjà-vu, a poisoned chalice indeed.

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37 minutes ago, JALhazmat said:

if he can’t put a team of Home grown talent together then tough shit. If he can? then he is welcome to come and play that’s all the nationality rules are doing

I wish that were true. Unfortunately, there will be considerable collateral damage as well, as qualified people are barred from the event and gainful employment. 

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4 hours ago, jaysper said:

The rage would be so immense you would see the fireball from space.

I would like to think the reason we haven't seen more of my fellow kiwis filled with rage is because they've fucked off out of here after the end of the cup.

But I'm not convinced.

The real fan boys are hiding would be my guess. Embarrassed with what is happening but unable to say anything bad about their heros.

They should be shouting down the walls, demanding better behaviour. Instead they are turning a blind eye and hoping it is all bullshit made up by the media.

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5 minutes ago, Gissie said:

The real fan boys are hiding would be my guess.

Maybe they're waiting till we have official confirmation of the AC plans going forward?

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45 minutes ago, JALhazmat said:

Reject on what grounds? We don’t like him? He did mean things to us? He paid people more? Yup that’s gonna stand up in court.. 

if he can’t put a team of Home grown talent together then tough shit. If he can? then he is welcome to come and play that’s all the nationality rules are doing

The nationality rules are an abomination.  Why not all the design work to be covered by nationality. Dalton goes on about how he is happy to be going back to the origins with crew nationality, but the only thing that was covered by that was design and build. Crew, no one gave a toss.

But that would be bloody hard for ETNZ, so Dalton bullshits and makes up a lie to cover his assholeness. The Poms just go along with it, makes them just as big on the assholeness.

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10 minutes ago, Sailbydate said:

I wish that were true. Unfortunately, there will be considerable collateral damage as well, as qualified people are barred from the event and gainful employment. 

Who has been barred? Lack of funds and sponsors in the relevant countries and Yacht clubs  is a bigger issue than a nationality clause. 
 

 

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5 minutes ago, Gissie said:

The nationality rules are an abomination.  Why not all the design work to be covered by nationality. Dalton goes on about how he is happy to be going back to the origins with crew nationality, but the only thing that was covered by that was design and build. Crew, no one gave a toss.

But that would be bloody hard for ETNZ, so Dalton bullshits and makes up a lie to cover his assholeness. The Poms just go along with it, makes them just as big on the assholeness.

Cry me a river. 

You wanted to win it, you kept it and now you are upset because GD wants to hang on to it again? 
 

the constant defence of anything remotely shady, “the cup isnt meant to be fair, the winner decides etc” and NOW it’s all too much because a nationality rule 99% of the players get around because of dual  nationality’s  and passports

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2 minutes ago, Horn Rock said:

Maybe they're waiting till we have official confirmation of the AC plans going forward?

Considering Dalton has been quoted on the nationality rules not sure how long you need to wait. Plus, this is SA, never stopped the ETNZ fan bois from giving shit to other teams that did far less with far less details.

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3 minutes ago, JALhazmat said:

Who has been barred? Lack of funds and sponsors in the relevant countries and Yacht clubs  is a bigger issue than a nationality clause. 
 

 

Every Kiwi sailor not on the team. Any Kiwi on the team that was interested in moving. Any pommy sailor not on the Ineos boat. So the list grows.

The lack of funds is a combination of bloody expensive, especially as you need to plan on being in for at least 2 cycles to be just competitive. Plus the event is being dumbed down and commercialised. The billionaires aren't into events set up to cater to the masses, just not their thing. Bertelli is the only one lately who doesn't want to turn it into some circus that can pay for itself and is the reason I supported them this time.

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7 minutes ago, JALhazmat said:

Cry me a river. 

You wanted to win it, you kept it and now you are upset because GD wants to hang on to it again? 

I didn't want them to win it. I thought they had started to become assholes and the cup would be better off moving on.

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8 minutes ago, JALhazmat said:

Who has been barred? Lack of funds and sponsors in the relevant countries and Yacht clubs  is a bigger issue than a nationality clause. 
 

 

You mean natural market forces Vs a colluding cartel? 

You do see where all this is heading don't you?

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8 minutes ago, Sailbydate said:

You mean natural market forces Vs a colluding cartel? 

You do see where all this is heading don't you?

Mordor, the eye of Sauron? 
 

natural market forces has a bigger restriction on entries than what passport 11 people have, you are getting upset at the wrong thing. 

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2 minutes ago, The Advocate said:

He either doesn't, or is complicit.

Complicit? You off your meds again?

Genuinely though you seem to spend your entire fucking time looking for posts I’ve made quoting them and coming up with some completely irrelevant remark?  I am flattered but I’m just not interested in you okay?

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Just now, JALhazmat said:

Mordor, the eye of Sauron? 
 

natural market forces has a bigger restriction on entries than what passport 11 people have, you are getting upset at the wrong thing. 

I don't give a rats arse about the number of entries. Never have seen the need to re-engineer or 'grow' the AC, or to monetise it.

I am getting upset at what appears to be hypocrisy and self-serving manipulation. 

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6 minutes ago, JALhazmat said:

Complicit? You off your meds again?

Genuinely though you seem to spend your entire fucking time looking for posts I’ve made quoting them and coming up with some completely irrelevant remark?  I am flattered but I’m just not interested in you okay?

I can understand how you might think that, but it really isn't the case. It is hard to look at these forums without seeing moronic comments from you, you are incredibly prolific with them.

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1 minute ago, Sailbydate said:

I don't give a rats arse about the number of entries. Never have seen the need to re-engineer or 'grow' the AC, or to monetise it.

I am getting upset at what appears to be hypocrisy and self-serving manipulation. 

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1 minute ago, The Advocate said:

I can understand how you might think that, but it really isn't the case. It is hard to look at these forums without seeing moronic comments from you, you are incredibly prolific with them.

Boohoo. Iggy? 

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7 minutes ago, Sailbydate said:

I don't give a rats arse about the number of entries. Never have seen the need to re-engineer or 'grow' the AC, or to monetise it.

I am getting upset at what appears to be hypocrisy and self-serving manipulation. 

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47 minutes ago, Sailbydate said:

I don't give a rats arse about the number of entries. Never have seen the need to re-engineer or 'grow' the AC, or to monetise it.

I am getting upset at what appears to be hypocrisy and self-serving manipulation. 

It is the monetise bit that gets me. They claim it is a game for billionaires, then try and make it commercially viable.

Although the hypocrisy and self-serving part bits have started taking centre stage recently.

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6 minutes ago, Gissie said:

It is the monetise bit that gets me. They claim it is a game for billionaires, then try and make it commercially viable.

Although the hypocrisy and self-serving part bits have started taking centre stage recently.

Smoke screens.

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32 minutes ago, SloopJohnB said:

Fuck I hate pages like that.

I had a few beers with a significant person in that organisation the other week, a good friend of mine. He hinted they had done some stuff but I didn't press it. Might be time for another beer.

Cheers for the link.

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16 hours ago, 45Roller said:

Not sure what's going on, but it was @marlowe that spoke about the diagram, not me :unsure:

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The key words.... "Powerpoint Presentation"  Haven't seen one yet so your safe..... for the moment..... :ph34r::lol:

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7 minutes ago, Piet56 said:

The key words.... "Powerpoint Presentation"  Haven't seen one yet so your safe..... for the moment..... :ph34r::lol:

:lol::lol::lol:

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5 hours ago, Gissie said:

The nationality rules are an abomination.  Why not all the design work to be covered by nationality. Dalton goes on about how he is happy to be going back to the origins with crew nationality, but the only thing that was covered by that was design and build. Crew, no one gave a toss.

But that would be bloody hard for ETNZ, so Dalton bullshits and makes up a lie to cover his assholeness. The Poms just go along with it, makes them just as big on the assholeness.

It was always club v clubs. Some of the winning Americas cup boats were skippered by a Brit in the 1900s.

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35 minutes ago, Piet56 said:

The key words.... "Powerpoint Presentation"  Haven't seen one yet so your safe..... for the moment..... :ph34r::lol:

Power points. Takes you back to when we were all in green.

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4 hours ago, dullers said:

Power points. Takes you back to when we were all in green.

Awe mate - muscle memory kicks in whenever I get fragged into a meeting that uses powerpoint.....

  • Thou shall not insert sharp end of the Pace stick into any orifice of the Organiser
  • Thou shall not bellow "Grenade" in the room when you are bored shitless as a result of said presentation
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9 hours ago, JALhazmat said:

She lost any hope after how you turned out. 

No way your mum was my mum, my dad might have sagged some shockers after a few beers, but not that bad.

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12 hours ago, Gissie said:

The real fan boys are hiding would be my guess. Embarrassed with what is happening but unable to say anything bad about their heros.

They should be shouting down the walls, demanding better behaviour. Instead they are turning a blind eye and hoping it is all bullshit made up by the media.

To be Fair, I'm hoping it's all bullshit too.

Cos the alternative is that ETNZ are no better than Orifice.

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12 hours ago, Gissie said:

I didn't want them to win it. I thought they had started to become assholes and the cup would be better off moving on.

I wanted them to win it, but was already fairly vocal on these boards about some fairly arsehole-esque things they were doing.

If the rumours are true, then the conversion of Annikin Skywalker to Darth Vader is nearing completion.

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7 minutes ago, jaysper said:

I wanted them to win it, but was already fairly vocal on these boards about some fairly arsehole-esque things they were doing.

If the rumours are true, then the conversion of Annikin Skywalker to Darth Vader is nearing completion.

Fair enough, I found the accusations of unsporting behavior against Bertelli a step to far. True, he hid behind Tina, but that either made him a coward or a master at machiavelli schemes. As he is no coward it left the other.

Once people head down this path they seldom turn back unless they lose it all. So I am far from surprised at the present shit fight. It could be stopped with one press conference. Instead he feeds it as a way to put pressure on those that hold the purse strings of tax money. 

In the end it may all be bullshit, but even if it is, the fact he has done nothing to stop it still makes the team unsuitable in my eyes.

So yeah, I would have preferred Prada to have won.

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Does anyone know who got the top speed overall for the last cycle? 

I noticed they stopped posting top speeds for the day on social media before the match. 

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No idea who or what the top speed recorded was but I'll bet it happened within 3 boat lengths of a mark.

If they were on a leg of the course they would not be recording the top speed of that race.

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18 hours ago, SloopJohnB said:

Yep. A very informative read.

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8 hours ago, jaysper said:

To be Fair, I'm hoping it's all bullshit too.

Cos the alternative is that ETNZ are no better than Orifice.

What?

Where do i get some of this bullshit?  Sounds interesting.

 

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22 hours ago, Gissie said:

The real fan boys are hiding would be my guess. Embarrassed with what is happening but unable to say anything bad about their heros.

They should be shouting down the walls, demanding better behaviour. Instead they are turning a blind eye and hoping it is all bullshit made up by the media.

Pft. First of all, it’s all shit, just like courses B&C being removed, just like misappropriation of public money, fraud and heads rolling. It’s BS. If they came out with a press conference every time there were rumours they’d be having a press conference every 5 minutes! The fact is, the cup is over, everyone’s having withdrawal symptoms and making shit up as a way of passing the days away, just like they do after every cup finishes. Then reality hits and they realise they were all fucking overreacting. Nothing is confirmed, all options are on the table and negotiations are yet to begin. It’s all fucking hear say at the moment. Stop being so damn gullible and dramatic!

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11 hours ago, Gissie said:

No way your mum was my mum, my dad might have sagged some shockers after a few beers, but not that bad.

The inability to spell coherently even with a fucking spell check proves it..;-)

 

 

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2 hours ago, Forourselves said:
On 3/20/2021 at 4:58 PM, Gissie said:

The real fan boys are hiding would be my guess. Embarrassed with what is happening but unable to say anything bad about their heros.

They should be shouting down the walls, demanding better behaviour. Instead they are turning a blind eye and hoping it is all bullshit made up by the media.

Pft. First of all, it’s all shit, just like courses B&C being removed, just like misappropriation of public money, fraud and heads rolling. It’s BS. If they came out with a press conference every time there were rumours they’d be having a press conference every 5 minutes! The fact is, the cup is over, everyone’s having withdrawal symptoms and making shit up as a way of passing the days away, just like they do after every cup finishes. Then reality hits and they realise they were all fucking overreacting. Nothing is confirmed, all options are on the table and negotiations are yet to begin. It’s all fucking hear say at the moment. Stop being so damn gullible and dramatic!

^^^ Fan boi

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4 hours ago, Jethrow said:

No idea who or what the top speed recorded was but I'll bet it happened within 3 boat lengths of a mark.

If they were on a leg of the course they would not be recording the top speed of that race.

Can you explain your thinking Throw, you've lost me.

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On 3/20/2021 at 10:47 AM, SloopJohnB said:

not sure if you saw this from them, I posted it in the weeds of this thread somewhere, so here it is again :)

 

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11 minutes ago, 45Roller said:

not sure if you saw this from them, I posted it in the weeds of this thread somewhere, so here it is again :)

 

Fascinating  but makes you wonder where it's all going to end. Clearly, the level of investment necessary to deliver this kind performance is not commercially sustainable.

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Sir Ian (Animation Research Ltd) gallantly tries to bolster support for the DoG challenge:

NZ Herald. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-2021-sir-ian-taylor-how-team-new-zealand-have-changed-the-face-of-the-americas-cup-forever/FOSOZUUJYY4H3CMNAG4RSXDTWQ/

"I have no idea how the Isle of Wight scenario might play out but there is something very Kiwi about the idea of saying, "What say we Kiwis, for the right money, bring it to the Isle of Wight to see if you're good enough to win it back!"

"I think we would find that the world would be tuned in for that. The oldest sports trophy goes on the line in the place where that history began. And the New Zealand technology brand would be at the front and centre of that story."

"How is that for bold, innovative, and thinking outside the box?"

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3 minutes ago, Sailbydate said:

Sir Ian (Animation Research Ltd) gallantly tries to bolster support for the DoG challenge:

NZ Herald. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-2021-sir-ian-taylor-how-team-new-zealand-have-changed-the-face-of-the-americas-cup-forever/FOSOZUUJYY4H3CMNAG4RSXDTWQ/

"I have no idea how the Isle of Wight scenario might play out but there is something very Kiwi about the idea of saying, "What say we Kiwis, for the right money, bring it to the Isle of Wight to see if you're good enough to win it back!"

"I think we would find that the world would be tuned in for that. The oldest sports trophy goes on the line in the place where that history began. And the New Zealand technology brand would be at the front and centre of that story."

"How is that for bold, innovative, and thinking outside the box?"

'What say we Kiwis, owned, trained and ridden by JR' seems Sir Ian has been smoking the wrong weed.

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45 minutes ago, 45Roller said:

not sure if you saw this from them, I posted it in the weeds of this thread somewhere, so here it is again :)

 

T-C should make good of his promise to translate the Guillaume Verdier interview, and what he thinks about AI

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2 minutes ago, Xlot said:

T-C should make good of his promise to translate the Guillaume Verdier interview, and what he thinks about AI

I read it somewhere. Verdier thinks there are far too many computer boffins/engineers at ETNZ. He doesn't like that sort of working environment. 

I think he may be in danger of heading the way of the dinosaurs himself, reading between the lines. But what the fuck would I know, eh?

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