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15 hours ago, Navig8tor said:

Dem eyes look like they are planning a demise.....

She needs an AR 15

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10 hours ago, Elegua said:

Almost finished my second year here in Florida.

I think overall I like the Summer better. 

You may need a catscan my friend......

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23 minutes ago, Jkdubz808 said:

You may need a catscan my friend......

Possibly. I've lived in a tropical climate for 30+ years overseas, so I don't mind the heat so much. I like that I see some of the same flora and fauna.  But, I enjoy it when parking at Publix stops being a demolition derby. My biggest fear is that this time they will stay all year. Hopefully a hurricane and a hot Summer weed the weaklings out.  

Maybe once I get my vaccine, I hope to get more involved in the sailing community. All Summer there is a nice 5-10kt breeze most evenings. Perfect for something like a snipe. 

 

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14 hours ago, Elegua said:

Possibly. I've lived in a tropical climate for 30+ years overseas, so I don't mind the heat so much. I like that I see some of the same flora and fauna.  But, I enjoy it when parking at Publix stops being a demolition derby. My biggest fear is that this time they will stay all year. Hopefully a hurricane and a hot Summer weed the weaklings out.  

Maybe once I get my vaccine, I hope to get more involved in the sailing community. All Summer there is a nice 5-10kt breeze most evenings. Perfect for something like a snipe. 

 

Did the same. Came back to NZ and one day the humidity was heading towards 80%. My fellow Kiwis were moaning about how bad it was. :lol:

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9 hours ago, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

snipe?  FTS...   pick up an MC Scow and save your knees...

MC scow looks interesting but I'd like something double handed. 

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On 4/1/2021 at 12:29 AM, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

they are dbl handed, usually in air above 10-12

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Ron DeSantis, declared a state of emergency on Saturday after a significant leak at a large pond at the old Piney Point phosphate mine threatened to burst a system that stores water polluted with radioactive materials.

Officials evacuated homes and closed off a highway near the large reservoir in the Tampa Bay area, north of Bradenton. Residents a mile north and a half-mile south of the pond received an alert via text saying to leave the area immediately because collapse was “imminent”.

well that's a little more serious..

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It seems that the Space/ Time Continuum has shifted radically in Florida.

Our Governor, Ron DeSantis, in now arguably the best Governor in the Nation.

He is definitely not living up to the high standards of a Floriduh Man!  

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more water fun in Florida: Keep up the good work Ron DeSnake

MARTIN COUNTY, Fla. — A health advisory was issued Friday for the vicinity of the St. Lucie Lock and Phipps Park after water samples showed the presence of blue-green algae.

The Florida Department of Health in Martin County initiated the advisory following water tests by the Florida Department of Environmental Protection.

SPECIAL COVERAGE: Protecting Paradise

The FDOH said the sampling was conducted in the area of the C44 S80 St. Lucie Lock, discovering low toxin levels.

Health officials recommend residents and visitors avoid contact with algae.

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2 hours ago, Charlie Foxtrot said:


It seems that the Space/ Time Continuum has shifted radically in Florida.

Our Governor, Ron DeSantis, in now arguably the best Governor in the Nation.

He is definitely not living up to the high standards of a Floriduh Man!  

DeSantis is the poster child for Floriduh Man.

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On 3/31/2021 at 9:30 PM, Elegua said:

MC scow looks interesting but I'd like something double handed. 

 

Unless you're a pretty big guy, it will be difficult to right a flipped, beamy, MC Scow singlehandedly......  I'm 160 lbs, and doubt I could do it...  And, I'm not gonna try, and tempt fate! :wacko:

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3 hours ago, Not for nothing said:

more water fun in Florida: Keep up the good work Ron DeSnake

MARTIN COUNTY, Fla. — A health advisory was issued Friday for the vicinity of the St. Lucie Lock and Phipps Park after water samples showed the presence of blue-green algae.

The Florida Department of Health in Martin County initiated the advisory following water tests by the Florida Department of Environmental Protection.

SPECIAL COVERAGE: Protecting Paradise

The FDOH said the sampling was conducted in the area of the C44 S80 St. Lucie Lock, discovering low toxin levels.

Health officials recommend residents and visitors avoid contact with algae.

Well shit, I was gonna do some sandbar days in a few weeks.  Will have to keep an eye on it.

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Unless you're a pretty big guy, it will be difficult to right a flipped, beamy, MC Scow singlehandedly......  I'm 160 lbs, and doubt I could do it...  And, I'm not gonna try, and tempt fate! :wacko:

In decent breeze a MC is a handful, even for an ex-Finn sailor (6'3" 230 lbs).  Definitely a prominent fleet in the middle of the state, but not so much on the coasts.  I've got my eye on doing a complete rebuild of an old Flying Scot for me and the bowgirl.

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24 minutes ago, billy backstay said:

 

Unless you're a pretty big guy, it will be difficult to right a flipped, beamy, MC Scow singlehandedly......  I'm 160 lbs, and doubt I could do it...  And, I'm not gonna try, and tempt fate! :wacko:

I'm not much more than you. So, good point. Anyway, I'm on the East Coast. 

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30 minutes ago, Elegua said:

I'm not much more than you. So, good point. Anyway, I'm on the East Coast. 

I don't know what the weight limit is for MC Scows, and if it's enforced?  We sometimes sail with 4, instead of 3, on the Etchell's, when it's blowing above 15 kts or so.....

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4 hours ago, billy backstay said:

 

Unless you're a pretty big guy, it will be difficult to right a flipped, beamy, MC Scow singlehandedly......  I'm 160 lbs, and doubt I could do it...  And, I'm not gonna try, and tempt fate! :wacko:

it's not that big of a boat

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A naval mine washed up onto the shore of a Florida beach early Sunday morning, shutting down the area while the bomb squad cleared the scene.

A deputy on patrol discovered the “possible explosive training device” around 2:30 a.m. Sunday in Lauderdale-By-The-Sea, according to the Broward Sheriff’s Office.

The deputy called in the BSO Bomb Squad, which discovered that the mine had “inert” painted on the side.

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4 hours ago, Rum Runner said:

Here is a lengthy video from a meeting of the Manatee County board that deals with these things, and the company guy in charge of the effort to forestall the disaster.  The vid was made on 1 April, so it isn't terribly current but it gives you a good idea of what's going on. 

One of the biggest takeaways is that this isn't the first crisis there. But you know, Floriduh. 

The gent from the company responsible is a bit stressed.

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Can't be the companies fault - capitalism means that no company would do anything that might fuck up the public - that would hurt their customers and their business.

Just ask JerKZ how that works.

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Power restored to Lower Keys after sailboat hits transmission lines on Seven Mile Bridge

 
 
Power restored to Lower Keys after sailboat hits transmission lines on Seven Mile Bridge
 
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(WSVN) - Power has been restored in the Lower Keys.

Some 30,000 customers lost electricity after a 32-foot sailboat hit transmission lines near the south side of the Seven Mile Bridge, Monday morning.

Rescue crews were able to safely remove those on board the boat.

 
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Maybe this should be in PA, But the 1st amend is not in Florida, Join a Hoa and you lose rights, You lose the right to protest as the governor sign a bill that you can illegally run people in groups of 3 or more 

Now the sheriffs are telling you how to vote , 

A sheriff in Florida told new residents at a press conference on Monday that they are welcome in the state, but they'd better not "vote the stupid way" like they did when they lived up north. The sheriff made the comment while standing next to Republican Governor Ron DeSantis as he signed a bill that destroys the First Amendment rights of Florida residents.

Talk about Nazi Germany and Desanta wants to be next furher  

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Two Florida police officers were busted this week after authorities accused them of writing dozens of bogus traffic tickets, including some that went to drivers who were never pulled over.

In some cases, the two motorcycle cops used fake names combined with actual information from vehicles they chose to target during the scheme, which happened last year in Hialeah, just north of Miami, officials said Wednesday.

Suspects Armando Perez and Ernesto Arias-Martinez were arrested Wednesday and charged with multiple counts of official misconduct, a third-degree felony, and falsifying public records, a first-degree misdemeanor.

 

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On 4/21/2021 at 12:42 PM, Not for nothing said:

Maybe this should be in PA, But the 1st amend is not in Florida, Join a Hoa and you lose rights, You lose the right to protest as the governor sign a bill that you can illegally run people in groups of 3 or more 

Now the sheriffs are telling you how to vote , 

A sheriff in Florida told new residents at a press conference on Monday that they are welcome in the state, but they'd better not "vote the stupid way" like they did when they lived up north. The sheriff made the comment while standing next to Republican Governor Ron DeSantis as he signed a bill that destroys the First Amendment rights of Florida residents.

Talk about Nazi Germany and Desanta wants to be next furher  

DeSantis does seem to have plans to take his "Florida Man" skills to the whitehouse.

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1 hour ago, bridhb said:

DeSantis does seem to have plans to take his "Florida Man" skills to the whitehouse.

Posted in PA, appropriate here.

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Republicans in Florida have stepped up their assault on what they call “Marxist professors and students” in the state’s public universities and colleges with a bill that encourages the reporting of lecturers perceived to be stifling “viewpoint diversity” on campus.

The bill, currently awaiting the signature of the Florida governor and Donald Trump ally Ron DeSantis, will allow students to make recordings of lectures without their professors’ consent, and present them as evidence of political bias.

 

It requires all 40 of Florida’s state-funded institutions of postsecondary education to conduct an annual survey of faculty and students to establish how well intellectual freedoms are protected on campus; and to “shield” students from efforts to limit their “access to, or observation of, ideas and opinions that they may find uncomfortable, unwelcome, disagreeable, or offensive.”

Any institution that blocks a student’s access to such “expressive activities”, the definition of which includes the content of lectures as well as “all forms of peaceful assembly, protests and speeches,” exposes itself to legal action, the new bill states.

Opponents say the shield clause, a late addition to the bill’s text as it worked its way through Florida’s Republican-dominated legislature, opens the door for white supremacist or other rightwing hate groups.

“As we saw in Charlottesville, if you give them an opening like that they will come,” Dr Karen Morian, the president of the united faculty of Florida (UFF) union of more than 20,000 educators, said. “And if it’s at FAMU [the historically black Florida agricultural and mechanical university] and they think they’re going to be able to intimidate black college students, they will come. That’s actually pretty scary.”

Morian said the clause allowing the clandestine recording of lectures is also problematic, despite the insistence by the bill’s defenders that educators have no right of privacy in a publicly-funded institution.

“It carves out our classrooms as a public space, whereas in actuality the general public cannot walk through it during class,” she said. “They can walk across the campus, or from the parking lot to the office, that’s public space. But my classroom has never been read as a public space.”

The Florida bill appears to align with the position of rightwing student activist groups such as Turning Point USA, which has long railed against what it sees as the left’s domination of campuses nationwide and maintains an online watchlist of radical professors who “advance leftist propaganda in the classroom”.

The politicians who shaped the Florida law acknowledge there is no evidence that political bias is a problem in the state’s 12 public universities and 28 publicly-funded colleges, but argue that legislation is needed to find out if it exists. The bill is currently awaiting the signature of the Florida governor and Donald Trump ally Ron DeSantis

“We have a lot of anecdotal evidence of largely conservative students feeling very uncomfortable sharing their viewpoints in university classrooms, they’re getting shut down,” said the state congressman Alex Andrade, a co-sponsor of the bill.

“It’s a common joke [among] conservative students that they have to tailor some of their essays to make them more progressive or left-leaning to get a better grade. When there’s at least anecdotal evidence that people are concerned about action against them for their political viewpoints it’s an issue we’d like to collect some data on.”

Opponents say there is no need for the law and state that mechanisms already exist for students to report offensive or egregious behavior by lecturers. “It’s based on national news reports and not related to any incidents in Florida,” Yale Olenik, an attorney and legislative specialist at the Florida Education Association, told lawmakers at a February hearing. “Florida’s colleges and universities are not reporting issues, students are not complaining.”

Andrade rejected the criticism. “Anytime a university professor is afraid of information that potentially makes them look bad, they translate ‘the solution in search of a problem’ because university professors have a pretty bad habit of always being right,” he said.

“This is just a strict collection of data related to people’s concerns about their viewpoints, whether progressive or conservative, being held against them on college campuses.”

The law’s architect, the state congressman Spencer Roach, did not respond to the Guardian’s request for comment but in a tweet when the bill passed the Florida senate earlier this month he framed the bill as a “protection of intellectual diversity”.

“Freedom of speech is an unalienable right, despite what Marxist professors and students think,” he wrote.

Democrats who voted against the bill pointed to a series of aggressive educational manoeuvres that Republican lawmakers have attempted during Florida’s current legislative session, which ends next week.

Politicians backed down on a proposal to withhold scholarships from students pursuing degree courses they perceived as liberal, but are still advancing plans to end guaranteed funding for certain scholarships and tie their availability instead to the vagaries of state budgets.

This week, the Florida house voted to expand a school choice program that critics say strips money and resources from public schools and sends taxpayer money to private institutions with discriminatory practices.

“I’m not surprised that Republicans are hobbling public education from kindergarten to college because they are afraid of educated voters,” the state representative Omari Hardy said.

“Republicans have done poorly in recent years with college-educated voters, which has fed their belief and fear that colleges have become indoctrination camps. They believe college students are these frail and fragile intellectual creatures but there’s no data showing that professors are indoctrinating their students.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/25/florida-bill-record-professors-universities

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2 hours ago, bridhb said:

DeSantis does seem to have plans to take his "Florida Man" skills to the whitehouse.

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Alligator Filmed Strolling Through Parking Lot at Publix in Fort Myers | Southern Living

Think we'll need a bigger pickup!

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22 minutes ago, Not for nothing said:

Toxic algae at the Pahokee Marina on April 30, 2021

This is what happens when those goddam big-city libby-rulls bring their intrusive environmental regulations into God's country!

- DSK

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3 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

This is what happens when those goddam big-city libby-rulls bring their intrusive environmental regulations into God's country!

- DSK

blame big sugar , which has been screwing up Dog's country long before big city libby's, 

actually it's gotten worst since the Repul's have been running the state 

also wasn't carpet bagger Drump from the big city ?

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5 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

This is what happens when those goddam big-city libby-rulls bring their intrusive environmental regulations into God's country!

- DSK

i believe the cause is all the green lawns and golf courses everyone insists on...    also frumps repeal of the clean water rule which regulated what could be dumped into the water since his golf courses were some of the biggest chemical polluters..

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On 4/5/2021 at 1:38 PM, SloopJonB said:

Can't be the companies fault - capitalism means that no company would do anything that might fuck up the public - that would hurt their customers and their business.

Just ask JerKZ how that works.

Yes. They always take care. They sure do, and it protects all of us.

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20 hours ago, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

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Needs to be in the California thread

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A Florida mother and her teenage daughter each face up to 16 years in prison after rigging a high school homecoming court competition, officials announced on Tuesday. The daughter who, was 17 when the crime took place, recently turned 18 and will be tried as an adult. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/emily-grover-florida-homecoming-hack/

 

 

first hanging chads,  now this....

 

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1 hour ago, Marcjsmith said:

A Florida mother and her teenage daughter each face up to 16 years in prison after rigging a high school homecoming court competition, officials announced on Tuesday. The daughter who, was 17 when the crime took place, recently turned 18 and will be tried as an adult. 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/emily-grover-florida-homecoming-hack/

 

 

first hanging chads,  now this....

 

Just shows you that people in FL don't believe in democracy. 

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WTF is a high school homecoming court competition?

And does it matter enough to bring in the criminal law system?

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2 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

WTF is a high school homecoming court competition?

And does it matter enough to bring in the criminal law system?

Basically a beauty/popularity contest...

Mom was a principal and used her credentials to access school records.  That’s the rub.... digital fingerprint never lies

 

The mother-daughter-duo were arrested and booked at Escambia County Jail on one count each of offenses against users of computers, computer systems, computer networks, and electronic devices, a third-degree felony; unlawful use of a two-way communications device, a third-degree felony; criminal use of personally identifiable information, a third-degree felony; and conspiracy to commit these offenses (a 1st degree misdemeanor).  

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On 5/1/2021 at 4:46 PM, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

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^^^^^ THIS!

On 5/2/2021 at 1:24 PM, pbd said:

Needs to be in the California thread

It could be said for a number of states.

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One white vote and only one news channel , sounds like Nazi germany to me

Gov. Ron DeSantis signs elections bill in West Palm Beach

'Florida, your vote counts,' DeSantis tells Fox News after signing bill
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5 hours ago, Not for nothing said:

One white vote and only one news propaganda channel , sounds like Nazi germany to me

Gov. Ron DeSantis signs elections bill in West Palm Beach

'Florida, your vote counts,' DeSantis tells Fox News after signing bill

FTFY

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4 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

Quebecois? 

Guy's brother?

Using the cell phone excuse for DUI is a bit of a reach, certainly.

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There's a new sign code that looks likely to be voted into the land development regulations that could turn Punta Gorda into Pottersville. 

The new code will allow up to four signs on residential properties.  Signs can be as large as 24 square feet.

We will be at the mercy of advertisers and people who can't stop letting the world know what they are thinking.

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On 3/29/2021 at 11:47 PM, Elegua said:

Almost finished my second year here in Florida.

I think overall I like the Summer better. 

I agree all the invasive species go back to Jersey

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48 minutes ago, Not for nothing said:

I agree all the invasive species go back to Jersey

They seem to be staying this year...

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1 hour ago, Jules said:

There's a new sign code that looks likely to be voted into the land development regulations that could turn Punta Gorda into Pottersville. 

The new code will allow up to four signs on residential properties.  Signs can be as large as 24 square feet.

We will be at the mercy of advertisers and people who can't stop letting the world know what they are thinking.

Two schools of thought... go big, go first, go obnoxious, follow the exact letter of the law and make all complaints you receive go into the public record.

Or ignore it all, which is what I do. Our community has some pretty severe limits on signs in yards, I don't have any and I try to not pay the slightest attention to anybody else's

- DSK

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1 hour ago, Steam Flyer said:

Two schools of thought... go big, go first, go obnoxious, follow the exact letter of the law and make all complaints you receive go into the public record.

Or ignore it all, which is what I do. Our community has some pretty severe limits on signs in yards, I don't have any and I try to not pay the slightest attention to anybody else's

- DSK

Interesting , my feelings are the same , if some one stupid enough to put a sign up, to me it reinforces my own views, ie last election , the more Trump sign I saw the more I wanted to vote against him, just more Karen's I would turn a deaf ear on, 

Do people really believe they change other peoples view's? 

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1 hour ago, Not for nothing said:

noticed the same , scary shit

It's a scary place either way.

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3 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Two schools of thought... go big, go first, go obnoxious, follow the exact letter of the law and make all complaints you receive go into the public record.

Or ignore it all, which is what I do. Our community has some pretty severe limits on signs in yards, I don't have any and I try to not pay the slightest attention to anybody else's

- DSK

This new signage code is the result of a SCOTUS decision in the Reed v. Town of Gilbert case.  Any community is vulnerable to being sued for restrictive sign codes. 

I guess SCOTUS thinks the Pottersville look is attractive. 

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2 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

It's a scary place either way.

The building next door is full of Canukistanians that self-selected for a place like Florida. You can imagine the attitudes and blatant racism. 

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1 hour ago, Elegua said:

The building next door is full of Canukistanians that self-selected for a place like Florida. You can imagine the attitudes and blatant racism. 

Seeking the like minded I guess.

Rather there than here.

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7 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

It's a scary place either way.

with an above average hurricane season predicted , maybe it will clean the house/state

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19 hours ago, Jules said:

This new signage code is the result of a SCOTUS decision in the Reed v. Town of Gilbert case.  Any community is vulnerable to being sued for restrictive sign codes. 

I guess SCOTUS thinks the Pottersville look is attractive. 

Expression doesn't have to be attractive to be protected. In fact, it's the other kind that needs it most.

The cited case shows pretty broad agreement on that point.

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THOMAS,  J., delivered  the  opinion  of  the  Court,  in  which  ROBERTS, C. J., and SCALIA, KENNEDY, ALITO, and SOTOMAYOR, JJ., joined.  ALITO, J., filed  a  concurring  opinion,  in  which  KENNEDY and  SOTOMAYOR, JJ., joined.    BREYER,  J., filed  an  opinion  concurring  in  the  judgment.    KAGAN, J., filed an opinion concurring in the judgment, in which GINSBURG and BREYER, JJ., joined

 

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13 hours ago, Not for nothing said:

with an above average hurricane season predicted , maybe it will clean the house/state

I wish.  But it seems the majority of people here love politicians who preach fear, intolerance, anger and hatred.

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1 hour ago, Jules said:

I wish.  But it seems the majority of people here love politicians who preach fear, intolerance, anger and hatred.

When I talk to them and say what a good job the GOPer's are doing , I ask them how the clean up on Lake O is doing,

Some don't even know it's polluted, 

WTF =Welcome To Florida

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Just now, Not for nothing said:

When I talk to them and say what a good job the GOPer's are doing , I ask them how the clean up on Lake O is doing,

Some don't even know it's polluted, 

WTF =Welcome To Florida

Ignorance is the fundamental aspect of a right wing mindset.

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On 5/20/2021 at 3:56 AM, Jules said:

There's a new sign code that looks likely to be voted into the land development regulations that could turn Punta Gorda into Pottersville. 

The new code will allow up to four signs on residential properties.  Signs can be as large as 24 square feet.

We will be at the mercy of advertisers and people who can't stop letting the world know what they are thinking.

as an UP-Side

for those wanting a screen from the street or a neighbor

above and beyond whatever fence/wall you are allowed

4 signs with a pic of trees/flowers or ???

would allow 96sq' of screening previously banned

= Make LemonAid

if you live in a land of 30' high houses, you could place a sign blocking view into your house from your neighbors window

or some other view

 

 

no matter what still better than moving to Kalifornia

unless you need to pack nothing 1st

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2 hours ago, DA-WOODY said:

4 signs with a pic of trees/flowers or ???

would allow 96sq' of screening previously banned

That reminds me...   Years ago we wanted to put one of those triangle sun screens on posts over the front entry of the house but the building department said "NO WAY!" 

Maybe we can get 96 sq/ft of flags (one can be a BLM flag, the second a Pride flag, the third a satanic flag and the fourth the flag of Mexico) and make that our sun screen. 

That should work.

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I went to get my new license plate stickers yesterday.  I was then told I had a toll road delinquency.

"How could that be?  I have a Sun Pass?"

"I don't know but you can call them."  Then she gave me a sheet of paper and told me to come back after it's taken care of.  "I can't do it here because our system is down." 

So I go outside and take out my phone to call them.  The automated responder tells me to enter the "reference number".  I look at the sheet of paper the lady gave me.  No reference number.  

I call again to talk to a human and get this:  "Our system is overloaded and waits will be much longer than normal."  I try several other ways to pay the tolls but every time they ask for a reference number.  They have my license plate number but they NEED that fucking reference number.  I'm trying to give them money.  Why do they need a FUCKING REFERENCE NUMBER!?!?!

After waiting for quite a while my phone tells me the battery is almost dead.  

I head home and see if I can logon to pay the tolls but apparently I don't have an account.  That's when I realize Florida has two different toll pass companies, apparently privately owned.  The fees owed are to E-Pass, not Sun Pass, like I have.

With my phone on charge I make another call.  I can now be on hold forever.  Right after the automated announcement, a woman picks up the call.  I asked why my Sun Pass didn't work on their tolls.  "I don't know.  You'll have to cal them."

"But it was your system that didn't accept Sun Pass.  I thought Sun Pass was good for all of Florida."

"It is.  It should have worked.  You'll have to call them."

Frustrated, I pay the tolls and ask her to fax proof the tolls are paid to our local DMV.  "Their system is down so they need this faxed.  She tells me when it's done.

I return to the DMV and am immediately sent to a booth.  (That was nice I didn't have to wait.) 

The lady at the booth tells me she doesn't see they received the fax.  But I have a printout from E-Pass that shows the tolls are paid.  So she gets up looking for the fax, from one fax machine to another.  Then she goes into some office and comes out with an older lady.  When she returns to the booth she says we're good to go.

I pay for the sticker with a check (their system is down statewide and they can't accept credit cards.)  And I hand the lady the check.

She asks, "Can I see a driver's license for the check?"

And here I thought I was at the DMV.

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1 hour ago, Jules said:

I went to get my new license plate stickers yesterday.  I was then told I had a toll road delinquency.

"How could that be?  I have a Sun Pass?"

"I don't know but you can call them."  Then she gave me a sheet of paper and told me to come back after it's taken care of.  "I can't do it here because our system is down." 

So I go outside and take out my phone to call them.  The automated responder tells me to enter the "reference number".  I look at the sheet of paper the lady gave me.  No reference number.  

I call again to talk to a human and get this:  "Our system is overloaded and waits will be much longer than normal."  I try several other ways to pay the tolls but every time they ask for a reference number.  They have my license plate number but they NEED that fucking reference number.  I'm trying to give them money.  Why do they need a FUCKING REFERENCE NUMBER!?!?!

After waiting for quite a while my phone tells me the battery is almost dead.  

I head home and see if I can logon to pay the tolls but apparently I don't have an account.  That's when I realize Florida has two different toll pass companies, apparently privately owned.  The fees owed are to E-Pass, not Sun Pass, like I have.

With my phone on charge I make another call.  I can now be on hold forever.  Right after the automated announcement, a woman picks up the call.  I asked why my Sun Pass didn't work on their tolls.  "I don't know.  You'll have to cal them."

"But it was your system that didn't accept Sun Pass.  I thought Sun Pass was good for all of Florida."

"It is.  It should have worked.  You'll have to call them."

Frustrated, I pay the tolls and ask her to fax proof the tolls are paid to our local DMV.  "Their system is down so they need this faxed.  She tells me when it's done.

I return to the DMV and am immediately sent to a booth.  (That was nice I didn't have to wait.) 

The lady at the booth tells me she doesn't see they received the fax.  But I have a printout from E-Pass that shows the tolls are paid.  So she gets up looking for the fax, from one fax machine to another.  Then she goes into some office and comes out with an older lady.  When she returns to the booth she says we're good to go.

I pay for the sticker with a check (their system is down statewide and they can't accept credit cards.)  And I hand the lady the check.

She asks, "Can I see a driver's license for the check?"

And here I thought I was at the DMV.

My fun with Florida DMV: I lost my Maryland license. The Maryland MVA would not mail me a new license, I had to show up in person to get another one.  The Florida DMV could look up that I had a Maryland license, but were not about to give me a license without me having the old one physically present. I had to leave, come back, pretend I had never had a license, and take the driving test ALL OVER AGAIN :angry: (and yes I passed)

Then a week later I found my Maryland license again :rolleyes:

 

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4 hours ago, kent_island_sailor said:

 

Then a week later I found my Maryland license again :rolleyes:

 

i've always said, the easiest way to find something is to replace it,   lost a set of darts , couldn't find them for weeks, withing 2 minutes of walking in the door with the new set, lo and behold, found the old set..

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Last week, in a letter to the editor, one man addressed an earlier letter writer who owned a Trump coffee shop.  The Trump coffee shop owner complained about so many people hating Trumpsters.  The man, in trying to help the Trump coffee shop owner understand negative feelings toward Trumpsters, pointed out the all "FUCK ....." flags and in your face words that come from Trumpsters being the reason people don't like them.

Today another letter writer to the local paper addressed the City Council's efforts to prohibit obscene language and "fighting words" on signs and flags.  Most of the examples of obscene language given by the City Council were flags that said "FUCK BIDEN", "FUCK HARRIS", or simply "FUCK YOUR FEELINGS." 

Today's letter writer objected on 1st Amendment grounds.  "It all boils down to the city trying to censor speech and thoughts they don't agree with," he said.

And they wonder why people hate them?

 

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In other news, yesterday, two men were arrested in Punta Gorda, FL for trafficking in meth and MDMA. 

There will be a lot of very unhappy Floridians this holiday weekend.

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51 minutes ago, Jules said:

In other news, yesterday, two men were arrested in Punta Gorda, FL for trafficking in meth and MDMA. 

There will be a lot of very unhappy Floridians this holiday weekend.

I doubt it. Meth dealers are like mushrooms. Someone stepped in to fill the void in the brief time between the arrest and the booking. 

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1 hour ago, Jules said:

In other news, yesterday, two men were arrested in Punta Gorda, FL for trafficking in meth and MDMA. 

There will be a lot of very unhappy Floridians this holiday weekend.

I bet the dealers makes a lot of money at the "Villages"

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