Ishmael 10,673 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Left Shift said: Having been quite hippie-adjacent in my youth, I can reliably say that hippies did not believe that "All religions are true." They did believe that people could do what they pleased without judgement as long as they didn't hurt others. I loop back to the Dylan line. "To live outside the law, you must be honest." or, as said by many: "With freedom comes responsibility." In my hippie days, it was closer to "No religions are true". Palmer is entertaining, but not always right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Good news. The Covid pandemic is not only waning in the US but we are looking at the end of the pandemic phase of Covid by the end of the year (say hello to the endemic phase). That’s not just my opinion it’s shared by Dr. Gottlieb (whose track record is impeccable). The good Dr. believes we enter this phase when Merck’s anti viral drug is approved and children under 12 can be vaccinated. Getting those children vaccinated is important not so much because they are at an outsized risk (weknow most kids have been infected and there have been no major outbreaks in schools apart from the south’s delta surge). Rather the importance of the vaccine is for the peace of mind for parents who have to balance caring for their children and returning to the workplace, and frankly returning normality to schools (no more masks). https://www.mediaite.com/tv/dr-scott-gottlieb-predicts-pandemic-phase-of-covid-will-end-when-antiviral-drug-and-kids-vaccine-are-approved/ A lot of people who are vaccinated who are worried about going back into the office recognize the risk to them is low,” he said. “They’re vaccinated. They’re unlikely to have a very bad outcome from Covid. What they’re worried about is bringing a mild or asymptomatic infection back into their home where they might have young kids or an older relative.” A third potential mitigation tool that could help employees return to the office, Gottlieb said, is a “wider availability of diagnostic tests so you can test yourself serially to make sure you’re not carrying an asymptomatic infection.” Gottlieb predicted that the Delta variant will have moved through the country approximately by Thanksgiving. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 More good news. The Mu variant is extinct! This is what happens in the waning days of a pandemic. A wildly successful variant (Delta) that is more contagious but less deadly crowds out opportunities for other variants. Delta will likely mutate mutate but in the manner of influenza as COVID becomes endemic. https://www.salon.com/2021/10/06/how-the-once-feared-mu-variant-all-but-disappeared/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danceswithoctopus 484 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Fakenews said: More good news. The Mu variant is extinct! This is what happens in the waning days of a pandemic. A wildly successful variant (Delta) that is more contagious but less deadly crowds out opportunities for other variants. Delta will likely mutate mutate but in the manner of influenza as COVID becomes endemic. https://www.salon.com/2021/10/06/how-the-once-feared-mu-variant-all-but-disappeared/ Another example of you making statements or drawing conclusions that aren't supported by your evidence. "Extinct" vs "All but disappeared". Just sayin' And I agree: this seems to be good news. Now, if you can leave your medical opinions out of your COVID posts, we can go ice-skating together in Hell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, Danceswithoctopus said: Another example of you making statements or drawing conclusions that aren't supported by your evidence. "Extinct" vs "All but disappeared". Just sayin' And I agree: this seems to be good news. Now, if you can leave your medical opinions out of your COVID posts, we can go ice-skating together in Hell. My role is in this thread is to present the undeniable good news about a pandemic that’s ending. Everyone else’s role as of late seems to be denying that it is. Odd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,448 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, Fakenews said: My role is in this thread is to present the undeniable good news about a pandemic that’s ending. Everyone else’s role as of late seems to be denying that it is. Odd. False good news is just another form of disinformation - DSK 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said: False good news is just another form of disinformation - DSK Fortunately I don’t offer any of that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danceswithoctopus 484 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Once again, presenting your opinion as "FACT" is disinformation. You do it regularly. Others respond to, and argue against your opinions, your interpretations of the facts, not any underlying facts. As I've stated before: your problem is that you refuse to accept that you don't know what you don't know. And that's dangerous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, Danceswithoctopus said: Once again, presenting your opinion as "FACT" is disinformation. You do it regularly. Others respond to, and argue against your opinions, your interpretations of the facts, not any underlying facts. As I've stated before: your problem is that you refuse to accept that you don't know what you don't know. And that's dangerous. The beauty of it is that we get to see my “opinions” borne out by fact. For example the corner on the pandemic in Feb, the delta crest on Sept 2nd etc. For the record while I do offer my opinion it’s heavily reliant on data and the opinions of leading public health experts. I’ve now called based on evidence before us the waning of the pandemic. We need only wait a few months to see if I’m correct. Im betting I’m right Pandemics do end eventually, sooner in the era of modern medicine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal20sailor 3,484 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, Fakenews said: Pandemics do end eventually, sooner in the era of modern medicine. What empirical evidence do you have that's less than 100yrs old? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Danceswithoctopus 484 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 21 minutes ago, Fakenews said: My mistake. I thought the discussion was about the facts of the situation, not about stroking your ego. 2 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said: What empirical evidence do you have that's less than 100yrs old? He doesn't need any. It's his opinion: he's "betting" he's right. His MO is to include hedge words like that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Olsonist 3,550 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 https://www.thedailybeast.com/allen-west-has-covid-symptoms-takes-hydrochloroquine-and-ivermectin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,448 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Olsonist said: https://www.thedailybeast.com/allen-west-has-covid-symptoms-takes-hydrochloroquine-and-ivermectin Wow, literally double the stupid. He's not a twin, is he? - DSK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mid 4,424 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 On 10/1/2021 at 5:38 AM, Fakenews said: Dude! I don’t use those words. I present data, scientific literature and the statements of public professionals and people in the know like Gottlieb and Dr. Ja. Lets face it, we turned the corner on the pandemic, the Delta surge has crested and all evidence points to a waning pandemic. I get that for some it’s unsettling, terrifying even to venture out in the world without crutches to “stay safe” but the data doesn’t lie and neither does history. Pandemics run their course, viruses don’t evolve into more lethal variants. If you are vaxed you have zero to worry about. https://theconversation.com/covid-19-what-happens-if-some-countries-dont-vaccinate-155144 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Dont look now but Covid cases are in free fall in the US. The average skyrocketed downwards from a high of nearly 200K in early September to 93K today, a 50% drop in just 5 weeks. It’s clear now that kids returning to school didn’t move the needle at all (probably because most have already been infected). Hospitalizations and deaths are plummeting as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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learningJ24 532 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 No data is the same as no infections? "According to an ABC News survey of state COVID-19 information dashboards, more than two dozen states have now either opted to no longer offer daily statistical coronavirus updates or plan to end daily reports in the coming weeks, a choice which has been a source of great concern for health experts as the more virulent delta variant spreads."Without real-time reporting, we are essentially flying blind as to the state of the pandemic. Lack of timely surveillance data will create blind spots and potentially a false sense of security as we struggle with vaccination uptake and the rise of new variants," said Dr. John Brownstein, chief innovation officer at Boston Children's Hospital and an ABC News contributor. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/dozens-states-end-daily-covid-19-data-reports/story?id=78557262 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,218 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, learningJ24 said: No data is the same as no infections? "According to an ABC News survey of state COVID-19 information dashboards, more than two dozen states have now either opted to no longer offer daily statistical coronavirus updates or plan to end daily reports in the coming weeks, a choice which has been a source of great concern for health experts as the more virulent delta variant spreads."Without real-time reporting, we are essentially flying blind as to the state of the pandemic. Lack of timely surveillance data will create blind spots and potentially a false sense of security as we struggle with vaccination uptake and the rise of new variants," said Dr. John Brownstein, chief innovation officer at Boston Children's Hospital and an ABC News contributor. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/dozens-states-end-daily-covid-19-data-reports/story?id=78557262 As TFG said, paraphrased. If ya don't count it, it didn't happen. (although he said test) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, learningJ24 said: No data is the same as no infections? "According to an ABC News survey of state COVID-19 information dashboards, more than two dozen states have now either opted to no longer offer daily statistical coronavirus updates or plan to end daily reports in the coming weeks, a choice which has been a source of great concern for health experts as the more virulent delta variant spreads."Without real-time reporting, we are essentially flying blind as to the state of the pandemic. Lack of timely surveillance data will create blind spots and potentially a false sense of security as we struggle with vaccination uptake and the rise of new variants," said Dr. John Brownstein, chief innovation officer at Boston Children's Hospital and an ABC News contributor. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/dozens-states-end-daily-covid-19-data-reports/story?id=78557262 It’s still a too early to go to weekly reporting but this oft quoted fear of new variants is alarmist fluff. The last two new variants Mu and Lamda are extinct and we are in the waning stages of the pandemic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
d'ranger 4,358 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 https://news.google.com/covid19/map?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen&mid=%2Fm%2F09c7w0 For anyone that cares to get something beyond our Covidiot Cheerleader - Cases are indeed down although rising in some states. There was a time when 90k cases a day was a disaster now it's just another day in the pandemic. Since we are only averaging 1800 deaths per day for the last week, well time to party. One has to wonder why the never ending downplaying of this. This may be the beginning of the end and it may not - with over 70,000,000 candidates in the US to help out and secondary infections for the vaccinated?. Not declaring victory yet. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,941 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, d'ranger said: https://news.google.com/covid19/map?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen&mid=%2Fm%2F09c7w0 For anyone that cares to get something beyond our Covidiot Cheerleader - Cases are indeed down although rising in some states. There was a time when 90k cases a day was a disaster now it's just another day in the pandemic. Since we are only averaging 1800 deaths per day for the last week, well time to party. One has to wonder why the never ending downplaying of this. This may be the beginning of the end and it may not - with over 70,000,000 candidates in the US to help out and secondary infections for the vaccinated?. Not declaring victory yet. Yep. Lots of funny stuff with data. That is separate from the weekly lag in reporting that occurs every Monday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, d'ranger said: https://news.google.com/covid19/map?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen&mid=%2Fm%2F09c7w0 For anyone that cares to get something beyond our Covidiot Cheerleader - Cases are indeed down although rising in some states. There was a time when 90k cases a day was a disaster now it's just another day in the pandemic. Since we are only averaging 1800 deaths per day for the last week, well time to party. One has to wonder why the never ending downplaying of this. This may be the beginning of the end and it may not - with over 70,000,000 candidates in the US to help out and secondary infections for the vaccinated?. Not declaring victory yet. Why lie to overstate the data? Per the CDC the latest weekly average of deaths in the US is 1,400. Let me lay some real (not pulled out of your ass) data on you. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,673 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bus Driver said: Yep. Lots of funny stuff with data. That is separate from the weekly lag in reporting that occurs every Monday. You have a lot more room to fuck with data if you delay reporting and cut testing. I read this morning that testing has been cut by 60%. Quote The nation is now recording around 600,000 coronavirus tests a day, significantly lower than the nearly 2 million tests a day the U.S. was reporting at the beginning of the year, another cause for concern for health officials who have repeatedly warned that drops in testing could lead to missed infections and subsequent spread. This data is from July. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/dozens-states-end-daily-covid-19-data-reports/story?id=78557262 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
d'ranger 4,358 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 25 minutes ago, Fakenews said: Why lie to overstate the data? Per the CDC the latest weekly average of deaths in the US is 1,400. Let me lay some real (not pulled out of your ass) data on you. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html I didn't pull anything out of my ass as there is a link provided. And taking the 1400 number? Gee, that's only another 40k per month. I don't lie, never have and you prove yourself a putz for stating it. I also don't predict the future while stating it as a fact. FakeGnus. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rain Man 1,989 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 12 hours ago, d'ranger said: I didn't pull anything out of my ass as there is a link provided. And taking the 1400 number? Gee, that's only another 40k per month. I don't lie, never have and you prove yourself a putz for stating it. I also don't predict the future while stating it as a fact. FakeGnus. Hmmm. According to the below from the NYT, 7-day average is 1783/day. That's 53K/month. Assuming the supply of dumbshit anti-vaxxers doesn't run out, that is almost 2 million by the US election day in 2024. That is 0.56% of the population, enough to swing the vote if the dumbshits are all R voters. Carry on. No wonder the R's are gerrymandering and fiddling the voting rules - their supporters are literally dying of stupidity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
d'ranger 4,358 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 6 hours ago, Rain Man said: Hmmm. According to the below from the NYT, 7-day average is 1783/day. That's 53K/month. Assuming the supply of dumbshit anti-vaxxers doesn't run out, that is almost 2 million by the US election day in 2024. That is 0.56% of the population, enough to swing the vote if the dumbshits are all R voters. Carry on. No wonder the R's are gerrymandering and fiddling the voting rules - their supporters are literally dying of stupidity. Meanwhile in Texas not to be outdone by Florida it's now illegal to require vaccinations https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/11/politics/texas-vaccine-mandate-greg-abbott/index.html because FreeDumbs. Abbott is using an EO and lobbying to get a law passed. Next up: How does this fare against the Right To Work deal? (It's really the Right To Get Fired). Fun times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,673 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 3 hours ago, d'ranger said: Meanwhile in Texas not to be outdone by Florida it's now illegal to require vaccinations https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/11/politics/texas-vaccine-mandate-greg-abbott/index.html because FreeDumbs. Abbott is using an EO and lobbying to get a law passed. Next up: How does this fare against the Right To Work deal? (It's really the Right To Get Fired). Fun times. It's pretty obvious that the only way these idiots stay in office is by mangling the vote. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Fah Kiew Tu 3,255 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Ishmael said: Vaccines are against the will of God. FKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,673 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said: Vaccines are against the will of God. FKT I'm glad someone still gets the newsletter so we know what is good or bad. He must have missed the issue where sexual harassment was listed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal20sailor 3,484 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, Ishmael said: He must have missed the issue where sexual harassment was listed. Was that the one he 'wrestled' with? IIRC, it was beyond harassment, the team doctor liked to play with pee pees. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShortForBob 2,961 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 I got a hologramed vaccine certificate today. It's a federal government certificate linked to a state government mandatory check in App. All vaccinations here are recorded on our national commy healthcare records. Frankly, I don't know how you guys can possibly be getting reliable information about Covid numbers whether that be testing numbers, infection numbers, deaths etc when you apparently have no centralized and nationally accurate data bases. Does anyone believe the numbers coming out of India are even 50% accurate? Well how are yours any better? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,222 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 We are fast approaching 750k dead Americans from Covid, Bullshitters. Numero uno with authority! Maybe playing it straight would have been more effective against a virus than bullshitting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,218 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 10/13/2021 at 12:36 AM, ShortForBob said: I got a hologramed vaccine certificate today. It's a federal government certificate linked to a state government mandatory check in App. All vaccinations here are recorded on our national commy healthcare records. Frankly, I don't know how you guys can possibly be getting reliable information about Covid numbers whether that be testing numbers, infection numbers, deaths etc when you apparently have no centralized and nationally accurate data bases. Does anyone believe the numbers coming out of India are even 50% accurate? Well how are yours any better? Meaning the US? Yeah, highly suspect numbers as they are actively being suppressed in certain areas. We'll have to look at "excess deaths" in a year or so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal20sailor 3,484 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Raz'r said: Meaning the US? Yeah, highly suspect numbers as they are actively being suppressed in certain areas. We'll have to look at "excess deaths" in a year or so. They might get better! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 1,926 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Right now I'm reading Michael Lewis's "The Premonition" about the Covid Cassandras . . They are very tough on the CDC, Drumph, and for-profit health care. Lewis spins a good yarn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Covid’s waning is not just in the US. https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/global-coronavirus-cases-decline-who-20211014-p58ztn.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Sol Rosenberg 10,222 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 19 minutes ago, Ishmael said: She’s a vaccine bullshitter too. Tots and pears https://www.ktoo.org/2021/02/08/a-journalist-live-tweeted-a-legislators-false-statements-about-the-vaccine-twitter-suspended-him/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,941 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 7 hours ago, Ishmael said: Good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Good news from Florida. As Covid wanes hospitalizations are in free fall. ICU hospitalizations dropped a stunning 40% from the prior week. https://www.fox13news.com/news/florida-icu-patients-with-covid-19-drop-below-1000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
learningJ24 532 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Florida, Alabama No Longer Reporting Daily Coronavirus Data More than a year into the pandemic, the states have begun updating their case, death and vaccination data less frequently. By Alexa Lardieri | June 8, 2021, at 1:33 p.m.https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-06-08/florida-alabama-no-longer-reporting-daily-coronavirus-data Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,673 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Just now, learningJ24 said: Florida, Alabama No Longer Reporting Daily Coronavirus Data More than a year into the pandemic, the states have begun updating their case, death and vaccination data less frequently. By Alexa Lardieri | June 8, 2021, at 1:33 p.m.https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-06-08/florida-alabama-no-longer-reporting-daily-coronavirus-data Old news. That's from June. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
learningJ24 532 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 It is, but it points to the games being played with the data. Since the CDC used to take it's information from the state's reporting dashboards and those aren't being updated daily, the claims are more suspect than previously. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,673 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, learningJ24 said: It is, but it points to the games being played with the data. Since the CDC used to take it's information from the state's reporting dashboards and those aren't being updated daily, the claims are more suspect than previously. OK, you explain this to Fakenews, the rest of us have given up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
learningJ24 532 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ishmael said: OK, you explain this to Fakenews, the rest of us have given up. That would be like pissing in a posthole. Feels good at the time but what comes back stinks and is insubstantial. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 When presented with incontrovertible evidence of a waning pandemic some fear merchants call the data fake, misleading or incomplete. They’re like Trumpaloons on November 3rd. SAD! The fact is COVID is waning all over not just the US. Here is some good news from Israel. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/with-boosters-masks-green-pass-israel-sees-covid-19-wave-retreat-2021-10-15/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,941 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Intentionally withheld/manipulated data ≠ "incontrovertible evidence". This has been a gentle reminder not to use big words that do not accurately describe the phenomena. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Worried about packed football games being super spreader events? Don’t be, it’s nonsense. Ditto for bars and restaurants, probably due to high vax rates. From the scientists at U of Florida… https://news.ufl.edu/2021/10/no-covid-spikes-from-football/ edit to add public health officials just can’t help themselves. All the data aside they still suggest wearing a mask. Even if you are vaxed and outside. It’s such BS. I was at the Bama game. 90K people no one was wearing a mask. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Left Shift 3,628 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Fakenews said: Worried about packed football games being super spreader events? Don’t be, it’s nonsense. Ditto for bars and restaurants, probably due to high vax rates. From the scientists at U of Florida… https://news.ufl.edu/2021/10/no-covid-spikes-from-football/ edit to add public health officials just can’t help themselves. All the data aside they still suggest wearing a mask. Even if you are vaxed and outside. It’s such BS. I was at the Bama game. 90K people no one was wearing a mask. And the incubation period is? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, Left Shift said: And the incubation period is? 5 days. We’ve had 7 weeks of packed stadiums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Left Shift 3,628 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Fakenews said: 5 days. We’ve had 7 weeks of packed stadiums. These stadiums are filled with southerners, right? So we have hope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Left Shift said: These stadiums are filled with southerners, right? So we have hope. Nope. 100k + at PSU, OSU and Meeeechigan. It’s sold out everywhere NFL games included. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,941 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Fakenews said: Worried about packed football games being super spreader events? Don’t be, it’s nonsense. Ditto for bars and restaurants, probably due to high vax rates. From the scientists at U of Florida… https://news.ufl.edu/2021/10/no-covid-spikes-from-football/ edit to add public health officials just can’t help themselves. All the data aside they still suggest wearing a mask. Even if you are vaxed and outside. It’s such BS. I was at the Bama game. 90K people no one was wearing a mask. So, you were at a game with 90,000 people who are selfish pricks, like you. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 1,926 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 The Covic stats are amazing to behold . . The GOPPERS have made a train wreck of the response https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/10/15/2058232/-New-study-shows-vaccine-refusal-s-staggering-cost-in-human-life Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,673 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Too many pucks to the head as a child... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,941 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Steve Doocy getting pwned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,222 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bus Driver said: Steve Doocy getting pwned. Watching their exchanges reminds me of the game show on idiocracy, “Ow, My Balls!” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,673 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: Watching their exchanges reminds me of the game show on idiocracy, “Ow, My Balls!” Some folks on the stupid aisle in Twitter are commenting on how Doocy is really putting it to her. Um....OK sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,941 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Rep. Andy Harris (R-MD) making sure everyone knows he is one of the Faithful. Lawmaker-doctor says he prescribed ivermectin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Sol Rosenberg 10,222 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Wow. Trying to bullshit a virus may have consequences for the bullshitter too. https://thehill.com/policy/international/577032-bolsonaro-could-face-11-criminal-charges-after-pandemic-probe-senator Will he use Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin to get off the hook? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Just a brief bit of good news and a reminder that CoOVID is in full retreat in the US t as the pandemic wanes. The daily average count is at 75k down from the peak of 165K. In Florida where the crest was earlier, reported case counts have fallen nearly 90% from the peak and CoVID hospitalizations now account for only 4% of all beds with only 600 or so in the ICU. The fuel is running out. Time to get back to normal. I fully support individual businesses and governments implementing vaccine mandates but otherwise end all restrictions (to the extent the exist) relating to social distancing or mask wearing (looking at you TSA). Let the willingly unvaxed die. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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badlatitude 4,241 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Marine Corps announces career-ending consequences for Marines refusing to get COVID vaccine The United States MARINES take no prisoners. The Marine Corps’ list of consequences for Marines who fail to get vaccinated for the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) is a reminder that USMC stands for “You Signed the Motherf—king Contract!” Active-duty Marines have to get vaccinated by Nov. 28 and Reserve Marines must be immunized by Dec. 28, according to Marine Corps Administrative Message (MARADMIN) 612/21. For any Marines who think that these deadlines are no big deal, the MARADMIN is a rude awakening. “Marines refusing the COVID-19 vaccination, absent an approved administrative or medical exemption, religious accommodation, or pending appeal shall be processed for administrative separation IAW (in accordance with) this MARADMIN and supporting references,” the MARADMIN says. “General Court-Martial Convening Authorities (GCMCA) retain authority to take any additional adverse administrative or disciplinary action they deem appropriate.” According to the message, the severe consequences are because Marines who are not vaccinated by the deadlines and do not have an exemption approved or pending will have “willfully disobeyed a lawful order from a superior commissioned officer.” As such, any Marines who refuse to get vaccinated will not deploy; they will not be allowed to reenlist; and they will not be promoted, in addition to being involuntarily separated, the MARADMIN says. https://taskandpurpose.com/news/marine-corps-covid-vaccine-refuse-consequences/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,673 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 53 minutes ago, badlatitude said: Marine Corps announces career-ending consequences for Marines refusing to get COVID vaccine The United States MARINES take no prisoners. The Marine Corps’ list of consequences for Marines who fail to get vaccinated for the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) is a reminder that USMC stands for “You Signed the Motherf—king Contract!” Active-duty Marines have to get vaccinated by Nov. 28 and Reserve Marines must be immunized by Dec. 28, according to Marine Corps Administrative Message (MARADMIN) 612/21. For any Marines who think that these deadlines are no big deal, the MARADMIN is a rude awakening. “Marines refusing the COVID-19 vaccination, absent an approved administrative or medical exemption, religious accommodation, or pending appeal shall be processed for administrative separation IAW (in accordance with) this MARADMIN and supporting references,” the MARADMIN says. “General Court-Martial Convening Authorities (GCMCA) retain authority to take any additional adverse administrative or disciplinary action they deem appropriate.” According to the message, the severe consequences are because Marines who are not vaccinated by the deadlines and do not have an exemption approved or pending will have “willfully disobeyed a lawful order from a superior commissioned officer.” As such, any Marines who refuse to get vaccinated will not deploy; they will not be allowed to reenlist; and they will not be promoted, in addition to being involuntarily separated, the MARADMIN says. https://taskandpurpose.com/news/marine-corps-covid-vaccine-refuse-consequences/ They can all go and be cops in Floriduh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Good news! The FDA has recommended approval for Pfizer’s vaccine in children 5-11. This is the final nail in the rapidly waning COVID pandemic and the ushering in of the endemic stage which we can all live with without any special precautions. In a related note average case counts have tumble to 40% of the high. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,222 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 The GOP anti-vax squad: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,673 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Just now, Sol Rosenberg said: The GOP anti-vax squad: That's a big syringe. I'm guessing penicillin, which hurts like hell with IM injection. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal20sailor 3,484 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ishmael said: That's a big syringe. I'm guessing penicillin, which hurts like hell with IM injection. Yep, girl caught a dose from Gaetz. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Interesting tidbit from CNBC just now. Based on surveillance blood testing, 45% of children 5-11 have already been exposed to COVID. I’d like to see that # for adults and children 12-18. I bet it’s in the 50’s and upper 70’s respectively. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,673 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 In the category of "How stupid do you have to be?" I present Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,941 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 6 hours ago, Ishmael said: In the category of "How stupid do you have to be?" I present Someone dug that out of the Twitter account of "Rep. Jack Kimble", a fake Congressman from the 54th District in California (California has 53 Districts). It's more of a spoof site, getting digs in at the folks on the right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,673 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 52 minutes ago, Bus Driver said: Someone dug that out of the Twitter account of "Rep. Jack Kimble", a fake Congressman from the 54th District in California (California has 53 Districts). It's more of a spoof site, getting digs in at the folks on the right. It's scary that it's entirely believable. There are a lot of people out there that are that stupid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 This thread has been very quiet recently. Some people just can’t handle wood news about the pandemic. It appears that not only is the pandemic waning but that we are at its end. This is apparent from casual observation and Dr. Gottlieb agrees. https://www.mediaite.com/news/dr-scott-gottlieb-proclaims-new-pfizer-covid-drug-marks-the-end-of-the-pandemic/ I think the bottom line is the end of the end of the pandemic‚ as least as it relates to the United States, is in sight right now — given that we have the tools to combat this disease,” Gottlieb said. The former FDA commissioner and current Pfizer board member did add the caveat that “we still have to get through this Delta wave,” and that might take two months. But the arrival of this new drug, along with a therapeutic produced by Merck, will ultimately be a watershed moment. “I think that this therapeutic and the other innovations that we’ve seen coming to market really mark the end of the pandemic in the United States,” Gottlieb said. “And we need to think how we put that victory sign on the side of the White House, and we Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,222 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, Fakenews said: This thread has been very quiet recently. Some people just can’t handle wood news about the pandemic. It appears that not only is the pandemic waning but that we are at its end. This is apparent from casual observation and Dr. Gottlieb agrees. https://www.mediaite.com/news/dr-scott-gottlieb-proclaims-new-pfizer-covid-drug-marks-the-end-of-the-pandemic/ I think the bottom line is the end of the end of the pandemic‚ as least as it relates to the United States, is in sight right now — given that we have the tools to combat this disease,” Gottlieb said. The former FDA commissioner and current Pfizer board member did add the caveat that “we still have to get through this Delta wave,” and that might take two months. But the arrival of this new drug, along with a therapeutic produced by Merck, will ultimately be a watershed moment. “I think that this therapeutic and the other innovations that we’ve seen coming to market really mark the end of the pandemic in the United States,” Gottlieb said. “And we need to think how we put that victory sign on the side of the White House, and we Lets see how the winter goes. We've gone through a lot since we were talking about that one guy from China. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clove Hitch 1,505 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, Fakenews said: This thread has been very quiet recently. Some people just can’t handle wood news about the pandemic. It appears that not only is the pandemic waning but that we are at its end. This is apparent from casual observation and Dr. Gottlieb agrees. https://www.mediaite.com/news/dr-scott-gottlieb-proclaims-new-pfizer-covid-drug-marks-the-end-of-the-pandemic/ I think the bottom line is the end of the end of the pandemic‚ as least as it relates to the United States, is in sight right now — given that we have the tools to combat this disease,” Gottlieb said. The former FDA commissioner and current Pfizer board member did add the caveat that “we still have to get through this Delta wave,” and that might take two months. But the arrival of this new drug, along with a therapeutic produced by Merck, will ultimately be a watershed moment. “I think that this therapeutic and the other innovations that we’ve seen coming to market really mark the end of the pandemic in the United States,” Gottlieb said. “And we need to think how we put that victory sign on the side of the White House, and we Ya, that drug is amazing news and I hope it holds. The only downside I see is people thinking they won't need to get vaccinated because there is a treatment like that. My school's faculty is now 100% vaccinated due to a mandate and 90% of our students are too. I am hosting a pop up vaccine clinic at the school for our younger students and community members. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solosailor 623 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Quote I think the bottom line is the end of the end of the pandemic‚ as least as it relates to the United States So the 11 day average in the USA is 1165 !!!!! Holly shit that is still bad. So a pandemic of airplanes falling out of the sky at a rate of 2-5 a day would be the "end of the end" to you? Everyone went apeshit about a few hundred dying from Boeings software error..... now imagine years of that everyday, just in the USA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,563 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, solosailor said: So the 11 day average in the USA is 1165 !!!!! Holly shit that is still bad. So a pandemic of airplanes falling out of the sky at a rate of 2-5 a day would be the "end of the end" to you? Everyone went apeshit about a few hundred dying from Boeings software error..... now imagine years of that everyday, just in the USA. Why would you imagine “years” of that going forward? Are you writing a horror movie? That’s just silly. A look at the CDC site show daily death rates are dropping 10% every week from the peak of over 2K. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,941 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Clove Hitch said: Ya, that drug is amazing news and I hope it holds. The only downside I see is people thinking they won't need to get vaccinated because there is a treatment like that. My school's faculty is now 100% vaccinated due to a mandate and 90% of our students are too. I am hosting a pop up vaccine clinic at the school for our younger students and community members. Oh, I wish we had numbers like that. I am assuming we have a 100% vaxx rate for admin/faculty/staff, as we just had a deadline pass. One instructor retired so as to not get the shot. The rest of us soldier on. Our reported student vaxx rate is slightly above 50%. I say that as many of our students seem to be reluctant to share their info. The District has said they have to show proof of vaccination status or be tested weekly, either at school or on their own. But, there is no protocol for tracking and we have been informed there is nothing that would happen if we became aware a student was not complying. As a HS, all of our students have been eligible for quite some time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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