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1 minute ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

Yes Alan Jones is a hero he is our last Formula 1 champion a top bloke. 

Whats wrong with getting your passport tattoo on your head they can wave you through without holding you up.

Because it's TOTALLY unnecessary any only someone like yourself, still rooted in the Dark Ages, would think it a solution.

EVERYONE knows that the nanobots in the vaccines self-assemble into a 6G mesh wifi setup with the antennae concealed as ear and nose hairs. The Govt can track you wherever you go via stealth LEO satellites. Why do you think Elon Musk is launching so many?

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The people who aren't on the news, the nurses, drs, police etc are fucking legends. The professionals deserve as much thanks as we can muster. And that starts with us helping them and gettin

Had our second AZ jab on Thursday. Rolled up at 7am to the doctors, people waiting in line out the front and a receptionist popping in and out like a yoyo keeping tabs on the number of people.  

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21 minutes ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

It's not just my neighbor anyone who wants Pfizer vaccine in Sydney will have to wait until mid October before they can be booked in for it.

People have had their bookings for Pfizer cancelled due to Gladys giving priority to schoolkids despite the fact there have been no deaths from the Kung Flu with kids. The youngest death in Australia is a 27 yo.

https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert/coronavirus-covid-19-case-numbers-and-statistics#total-cases-recoveries-deaths-and-new-cases-in-the-last-24-hours

The US which has had far more cases than we have has the CDC saying it's a 99.997% survival rate for those  under 20 with Kung Flu so why are kids getting priority resulting in older people having Pfizer vaccine appointments cancelled?

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then they take AZ.

Funny, just had this conversation with my anti vax friend. about AZ.

She asked me how my boob was. 

I told her about the various radiation side effects.

She said. that's awful, but its better than still having BC.

I said that's true, prevention is always better than the alternatives. Don't be a baby and get your Vax :D 

she went a bit quiet. She's getting her Mammogram next week. 

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21 minutes ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

They should tattoo the passport on your head like the Caliph Al Mutawakkil (847-861) did in Baghdad with the Jews when he made them wear a yellow donkey patch

Nah, it comes in chip form :rolleyes:

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14 minutes ago, 00seven said:

 

Thanks mate. Meli wonders why nobody takes notice of her. FMG has the Cloudbreak operation?

A bit over the top isn't too bad in this situation IMO. I've had 3 friends & 1 family member (all o'seas residents) die so far.

and because their crew are in Q, they have no flight crews ya moron.

You could have read it yourself.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-05/qantas-cancels-wa-flights-after-positive-covid-case/100351726

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Hmm, my son just booked an AZ first vax.

4 week wait at the GP's 

last week it was a few days.

This will be the people like me and my daughter getting shot 2. 

Good for the fully vaxxed numbers. Not good for people trying to get their first.

 

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10 minutes ago, Melibob said:

and because their crew are in Q, they have no flight crews ya moron.

You could have read it yourself.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-05/qantas-cancels-wa-flights-after-positive-covid-case/100351726

Why do you always have to be a fucking idiot?

It's a discussion board, I come here to discuss stuff. My post was from my phone while at work, I don't read the news on my phone. I got a reply from Alhadder that told me all I need to know in two lines. Your response was pure know it all bullshit, not worth a pinch of shit.

Bugger off and don't bother me. 

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13 minutes ago, 00seven said:

Why do you always have to be a fucking idiot?

It's a discussion board, I come here to discuss stuff. My post was from my phone while at work, I don't read the news on my phone. I got a reply from Alhadder that told me all I need to know in two lines. Your response was pure know it all bullshit, not worth a pinch of shit.

Bugger off and don't bother me. 

I win again :D

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2 hours ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

A few news sources have mentioned his family history of heart problems.

 

A few news sources eh?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/05/misinformation-on-27-year-old-sydney-mans-covid-19-death-spreads-on-social-media

Misinformation surrounding the death of 27-year-old Sydney man Aude ‘Ady’ Alaskar is circulating in Arabic WhatsApp groups, while conspiracy-filled Instagram and Facebook pages are trying to convince their followers the young man did not die of Covid-19.

Authorities confirmed Alaskar was not vaccinated against Covid-19 and contracted the virus from his wife, an aged care worker. The forklift driver from Warwick Farm, in south-west Sydney, died on his 13th day of isolation after deteriorating suddenly.

 

The New South Wales chief health officer, Dr Kerry Chant, told reporters on Tuesday that he had no underlying conditions.

“He did complain of feeling a little fatigued but the deterioration happened suddenly is my understanding,” she said.

Since his death, misinformation seeking to minimise Covid-19’s role in his death has spread through various social media and messaging apps.

A message being shared through WhatsApp groups claims his family have a history of heart conditions that contributed to his death.

The message, written in Arabic, says he was “90% healthy” before collapsing around 4pm and dying of a heart attack.

It is unclear whether the message actually comes from the man’s family or is fake, but its contents have been picked up by influencers and meme pages, promoting the idea that the man didn’t test positive and did not die of Covid-19.

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At last

one-stop test and jab pioneered at Al-Taqwa

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/the-school-has-been-unlucky-one-stop-test-and-jab-pioneered-at-al-taqwa-20210805-p58g92.html

It was an all-too familar swab up the nose, then a surprise offer of a jab in the arm for members of the Al-Taqwa College community on Thursday.

Staff and students aged 16 and older who fronted at the college to be tested for COVID-19 on Thursday were offered a surprise Pfizer chaser, in a “pilot pop-up vaccination program” directed at a part of Melbourne with one of the lowest vaccination rates in the state.

With the school once again at the centre of an outbreak, students aged 16 and older, staff and their families were also offered a shot of the Pfizer vaccine on-campus.

 

The pop-up vaccination program is being run by the Department of Health in; a first for the state involving a school’s staff and senior students.

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And in another world of private schools it seems like it's who you know.

One of Victoria’s biggest private schools will begin vaccinating its staff on campus this week, with several others looking to follow suit after the union for non-government school staff said an unvaccinated workforce “poses an unacceptable risk to the community”.

Wesley College will begin a voluntary on-site vaccination program for 700 staff across three campuses on Friday.

The school was approached with free leftover COVID-19 vaccinations by an unnamed vaccination provider that administers the school’s annual flu shots and owns and operates GP clinics. There is no cost to the school.

The high-fee co-educational school said it was inoculating staff because the “best way out of this pandemic is vaccination” and staff had embraced the initiative.

It comes as a teacher at Al-Taqwa College in Truganina was confirmed as testing positive to COVID-19 on Wednesday afternoon. The large non-government school in Melbourne’s west was connected with one of the city’s worst clusters last year.

A Wesley spokeswoman said the school was “pleased to offer all staff the opportunity to have a COVID vaccination on-site as part of our commitment to the wellbeing and safety of our community”.

The school said it was open to vaccinating students when they became eligible for the jab.

Under current rules, staff at Victoria’s 107 specialist schools and educators of children with a disability qualify for a fast-tracked vaccine. Education unions have pushed for all teachers and school staff to be prioritised for vaccination, but Premier Daniel Andrews has shot down the idea citing a lack of supply.

 

Wesley said that in line with government advice, staff aged 40 to 59 and pregnant women would get the Pfizer vaccine, staff aged 60 years and above would get the AstraZeneca vaccine, and staff aged 18 to 39 could get AstraZeneca following a consultation with their GP.

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47 minutes ago, Melibob said:

I win again :D

And that right there proves you wrong. It's a discussion board, there are no winners.

You're a moron if you think you've won something. You're a self centred twat.

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1 hour ago, Melibob said:

Hmm, my son just booked an AZ first vax.

4 week wait at the GP's 

last week it was a few days.

This will be the people like me and my daughter getting shot 2. 

Good for the fully vaxxed numbers. Not good for people trying to get their first.

 

Booked in today for my Astra shot #2. 2 weeks wait to first available date. I'm good with that.

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10 minutes ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

Having to produce a negative Kung Flu test would be a better way they have tests that give quick results for some reason the idiots who run this country don't allow these tests to be sold here.

Gee, wonder why. Maybe it could be something to do with the false positive and worse, false negative results?

My first wife is one of Australia's top clinical biochemists. Funnily enough, I take her advice and information a lot more seriously than I do some fruitcake with a hard-on for Muslims on a 3rd rate sailing forum.

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56 minutes ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

Yes quite a few sources Meli

His family said he had no obvious health issues but have suggested he may have had an underlying heart condition. https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-nsw-updates-man-in-20s-dies-sydney/38d6a90a-d572-45d3-8a27-d529d7939003

 

The family of a Sydney man claim he returned a negative Covid-19 test just a day before his death, leaving them shocked at his sudden deterioration.

His death came as a major shock to his family, who told The Daily Telegraph he had received a clear Covid-19 test the day before he died.

They also told the publication his family had a long history of heart problems.https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/twist-in-death-of-27yearold-covid19-patient-aude-alaskar/news-story/41af00b4dfc3eabdaaecb933402c9c93

Does your Guardian story end with it's not clear?

maybe Chanel 9 gets it's tips from social media

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31 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Booked in today for my Astra shot #2. 2 weeks wait to first available date. I'm good with that.

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Mine was pre booked 12 weeks from the first. There's going to be a bit of a scramble methinks.

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49 minutes ago, 00seven said:

And that right there proves you wrong. It's a discussion board, there are no winners.

You're a moron if you think you've won something. You're a self centred twat.

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12 minutes ago, Melibob said:

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007's Google

Your life must be so shallow. "My drawing class is interrupted, my choir practise is interupted. I lost my volunteer position because another poster complained to my volunteer boss. Poor poor me..."

You're a poser and a loser. And a bullshit artist.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, 00seven said:

Your life must be so shallow. "My drawing class is interrupted, my choir practise is interupted. I lost my volunteer position because another poster complained to my volunteer boss. Poor poor me..."

You're a poser and a loser. And a bullshit artist.

 

You're a loser.

:D 

You're funny.

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37 minutes ago, Melibob said:

Mine was pre booked 12 weeks from the first. There's going to be a bit of a scramble methinks.

Figured I'd be back in Tasmania so didn't book shot #2 but that's somewhat - dubious now. So decided to bring it forward & get it done. Won't be 12 weeks but I still hope to be home by then and this way I can say I've had the 2 shots when applying to re-enter Tasmania.

If the recommendation is for a booster next year, I'll do that too.

OOSeven isn't too bad really. Well, compared with Mo anyway. He seems to be setting out to prove that you don't actually need the covid vax to get mind controlled. God knows some 3 year old somewhere has the remote control for his. Kind of reminds me of my grandchild corralling the wireless self-propelled vacuum cleaner. Lot of movement, no demonstrated intelligence.

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7 minutes ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

The guardian probably make up their news like the ABC, do you think the fact checkers at the ABC will fact check the bullshit pic they posted? Did this guy have Vitamin D deficiency with Obesity and possibly also a diabetic?

The family of the 27 yo say he died from a heart attck they also say he tested negative for the Kung Flu just before he died.

The mother of the Iraqi removalists who died recently was also counted as a Kung Flu death her family say she also died from a heart attack. The family came here as refugees tried hard to fit in bough a nice house from hard work then felt great shame as her kids were in the news and fined $20K and accused of spreading covid and disregarding lockdown . The media were parked out front of their house for days hounding them the media harrassment contributed to her heart attack. The family posted this on social media none of the news reported what the family actually said about her death.

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Two in one day is really too much effort.

Do you really think that every single reputable news service in the whole wide world is in Cahoots with this dastardly plot?

From the extreme left, the Right, the middle?

From Aljazeera to Haaretz, the Irish Times, The Australian, The Guardian, Pravda?

You think a bunch of twatty influencers and other nobody's or waanabe's or usedtabes, somehow managed to gain access to some amazing secrets cabal with devilish intent 

A question?

Why would all those diverse media outlets  co operate?

Answer me that.

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1 minute ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Figured I'd be back in Tasmania so didn't book shot #2 but that's somewhat - dubious now. So decided to bring it forward & get it done. Won't be 12 weeks but I still hope to be home by then and this way I can say I've had the 2 shots when applying to re-enter Tasmania.

If the recommendation is for a booster next year, I'll do that too.

OOSeven isn't too bad really. Well, compared with Mo anyway. He seems to be setting out to prove that you don't actually need the covid vax to get mind controlled. God knows some 3 year old somewhere has the remote control for his. Kind of reminds me of my grandchild corralling the wireless self-propelled vacuum cleaner. Lot of movement, no demonstrated intelligence.

FKT

You think 007's Ok because he kisses your bum at every opportunity.

Don't think you're special, he does it to everyone who he thinks might be his friend. 

He's a sock for a twisted little man AKA Grumpy. got banned for crossing the Pedo line around when I first joined. I tried to be nice to him when people were muslim bashing and his said his wife was crying. He comes waddling back after years just as poisonous as ever.

Once bitten by a common venomous snake, one bashes it as often as it makes a move.

The rare ones get a reprieve. :)

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2 minutes ago, Melibob said:

You think 007's Ok because he kisses your bum at every opportunity.

Don't think you're special, he does it to everyone who he thinks might be his friend. 

He's a sock for a twisted little man AKA Grumpy. got banned for crossing the Pedo line around when I first joined. I tried to be nice to him when people were muslim bashing and his said his wife was crying. He comes waddling back after years just as poisonous as ever.

Once bitten by a common venomous snake, one bashes it as often as it makes a move.

The rare ones get a reprieve. :)

Yeah maybe, I'll take it topic by topic. I just treat this place as a source of dubious entertainment when I've nothing else to do. I'm running out of books to read and the libraries are shut.

Sometimes (most times) I give you a hard time. Sometimes I agree with you. Depends on the topic and if I feel bloody-minded or not, nothing more. I treat AJ a lot worse. The only current poster I'd say I actively disliked is sea wanker and he's in my ignore list.

Bored with Mo ATM. Might have to return to stirring shit somewhere else. There are a couple other fruitful areas...

Time to go re-read some more of 'Footfall'. I didn't realise just how old that book is now.

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3 hours ago, Melibob said:

It's a "compared to what" situation. Choir is good for mental heath. Drawing class is social and creative.

Lockdowns are easier when you have family at home or a shed to play in. 

But it's a very first world whinge. :)

Just set up my new table saw.

 

Unfortunately I'm an essential worker..  

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4 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

No.

Risk/reward hard to justify price.

Besides, if you're cutting fingers, you're not doing it right.....

said every 4 fingered chippie. Seriously. They only cost a couple of hundred and only trigger if your finger hits the blade. I think a finger or three are worth 200 bucks.

I can't understand the resistance to them when most blokes will have dozens of things they bought and don't use in their shed.

Then again, I've never liked sharp spinny things. I still have all my thumbs though. 

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9 minutes ago, Melibob said:

said every 4 fingered chippie. Seriously. They only cost a couple of hundred and only trigger if your finger hits the blade. I think a finger or three are worth 200 bucks.

I can't understand the resistance to them when most blokes will have dozens of things they bought and don't use in their shed.

Then again, I've never liked sharp spinny things. I still have all my thumbs though. 

If I was using a saw for 8 hours a day, I'd be more likely to own a sawstop.

Familiarity breeds contempt.......

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Does anybody have a link to the discussion thread on deaths after taking any vaccine, lol.  People do die.  But nobody stops vaccinating. 

Do you ever listen to the voice over for pharma ads on TV? "Sudden death" crops up a lot. 

https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/S0749-3797(13)00225-0/pdf

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4599698/

https://journals.lww.com/amjforensicmedicine/fulltext/2019/09000/sudden_infant_death_after_vaccination__survey_of.5.aspx

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Woah, this is going to piss our expats off bigtime.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-06/covid-rules-australians-overseas-visit-home-change-exemption/100356366

Australians who live overseas will no longer be granted an automatic exemption from the ongoing international travel ban, meaning they will have to submit a "compelling reason" to return to their home.

Key points:

  • Currently all Australians have to apply for permission to leave the country
  • People are allowed to leave for a few reasons including work and compassionate grounds
  • The federal government says the change closes a loophole for Australians living abroad

The rule change quietly passed through federal Parliament this week, and has not been formally announced by the government.

It has taken many by surprise — with Australians abroad reconsidering whether they can come back, and some in Australia questioning if they will be allowed to return to the country they live in.

Under the current rules, Australians have to seek permission to leave the country. Common reasons to leave are for work, urgent medical reasons, compassionate reasons or travel in the national interest.

Permissions can also be granted for a "compelling reason", with no intention to return for three months or longer.

The federal government argued it had closed a loophole, and Australians looking to leave the country to return to their home overseas had had plenty of time to do so.

LIVE UPDATES: Read our blog for the latest news on the COVID-19 pandemic.

Finance Minister Simon Birmingham said it was also about cutting down on the number of people making short trips abroad.

"We've seen too many instances where people have left the country only for in relatively short order to put their names on the request list to come back into the country," he said.

"And that just puts additional pressure and additional difficulties in terms of managing the finite number of places that can safely be administered for returning Australians."

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9 minutes ago, trt131 said:

That pretty well stuffs your trip to Greece.

Not at all. Once they ease outbound restrictions, I'm not time constrained. Be perfectly content to stay there as long as I need to. A year? two years? no problem.

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17 hours ago, Melibob said:

You're reduced to rereading Larry Niven?

That hard SciFi hasn't aged well.

:D

 

True - it's pretty dated. I doubt I'll bother re-reading the entire volume.

Problem is that I disposed of almost all my books up here. I usually just borrow a lot from the library. Except now I can't and while they have a book delivery service running, that's useless if you like browsing the shelves for authors you haven't tried before.

At home, not a problem, I have thousands of books. Always something I'd like to re-read.

Oh well there's a 1Tb HDD of e-books and other stuff given to me by one of my cruising friends, she said there was a lot of good stuff there. I just can't warm to e-books.

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7 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

True - it's pretty dated. I doubt I'll bother re-reading the entire volume.

Problem is that I disposed of almost all my books up here. I usually just borrow a lot from the library. Except now I can't and while they have a book delivery service running, that's useless if you like browsing the shelves for authors you haven't tried before.

At home, not a problem, I have thousands of books. Always something I'd like to re-read.

Oh well there's a 1Tb HDD of e-books and other stuff given to me by one of my cruising friends, she said there was a lot of good stuff there. I just can't warm to e-books.

FKT

I thought that. But I got quite used to using the library's Ebook collection on my Ipad overseas. saves getting sand in the covers not to mention weight in the pack.

The library should have a "browsing" option on their catalogue with suggested authors "Who writes like" and brief synopsis. 

You should be able to browse, click and collect.

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1 minute ago, Melibob said:

I thought that. But I got quite used to using the library's Ebook collection on my Ipad overseas. saves getting sand in the covers not to mention weight in the pack.

Yeah I acknowledge the practicalities especially being able to enlarge the font size for old eyeballs. Just can't warm to them. Probably have to get over it if I start spending more than a week straight on my boat. Chance would be a fine thing ATM, kind of wish I'd sailed up to Sydney now. Maybe next year.

Can't find my Samsung tablet ATM either. I can find the IPad but it's flat and I'm not sure I brought the charging cable. Luckily eBay has lots...

FKT

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1 hour ago, Whoa Nelly said:

Gladys is gaslighting you NSW.

On August 28 she will extend lockdown by another 4 weeks and blame you for not getting vaccinated enough.

It is a valid vaccination tactic though. 

Fed election in May, Scottie's met his targets early Dec, not too many AZ deaths.  New page.

Job Done 

 

 

 

That's if the Virus doesn't sweep Sydney away by End September.

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On 7/29/2021 at 4:58 PM, Melibob said:

And it's not for Hotel Quarantine.

If there's not a full scale riot on Saturday you can laugh at me on Sunday.

 

What happened to your riot? Maybe this weekend?

The riots are in Melbourne ya moron.

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5 minutes ago, 00seven said:

What happened to your riot? Maybe this weekend?

The riots are in Melbourne ya moron.

OK, The NSW gov didn't use the ADF for riot control.

I'm glad.

As for riots in Melb. 400 people and a half dozen morons does not a riot make.

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9 minutes ago, NeedAClew said:

On the bright side by the time Australia borders open for quarantining returning citizens maybe there will be a safer place for them to be where they won't get it in quarantine.  

I doubt it.

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1 minute ago, Melibob said:

OK, The NSW gov didn't use the ADF for riot control.

I'm glad.

As for riots in Melb. 400 people and a half dozen morons does not a riot make.

Now you're being a dishonest moron.

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Just now, Melibob said:

I doubt it.

So do I. That would require the Feds to actually take responsibility for inbound quarantine as they should do instead of allowing the States to fuck it up, and build fit for purpose facilities instead of using hotels with by now painfully obvious deficiencies WRT cross infection control.

Which costs money. And takes time.

I'm sure they're still hoping this will just magically go away.

FKT

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1 minute ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

So do I. That would require the Feds to actually take responsibility for inbound quarantine as they should do instead of allowing the States to fuck it up, and build fit for purpose facilities instead of using hotels with by now painfully obvious deficiencies WRT cross infection control.

Which costs money. And takes time.

I'm sure they're still hoping this will just magically go away.

FKT

Hmm, I have a sneaking suspicion that most of our woes come from the Feds mingeing on Vaccine orders, Quarantine etc. 

Bit like when one takes a risk on a car repair and it ends up with a seized engine.

 

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2 minutes ago, Melibob said:

Hmm, I have a sneaking suspicion that most of our woes come from the Feds mingeing on Vaccine orders, Quarantine etc. 

Bit like when one takes a risk on a car repair and it ends up with a seized engine.

 

Well, this year maybe.

Last year, no vaccines, blame falls squarely on the NSW Govt for Ruby Rose then the Vic Govt for the colossal cluster-fuck they allowed to happen DESPITE and AFTER seeing how fast things went to shit in NSW. They can't escape that.

BUT - the Feds should have been a lot more proactive WRT fit for purpose quarantine stations/facilities, it's crystal clear it's their Constitutional responsibility and they didn't step up. They allowed the States to use unfit premises. They still aren't doing their job and Aussies overseas who can't get home are paying for it. Mind you the States aren't either - people are still doing runners from quarantine. How in hell is that even possible? We KNOW a certain percentage are going to be utterly selfish and don't give a damn about anything except their wants, they shouldn't be able to get loose.

The vaccines - dunno. To hold them responsible you'd have to show that they could have ordered more earlier for faster delivery and didn't. That may be the case, I really don't know. The messaging around Astra hasn't helped any.

I do think the rollout has been dilatory and the delta strain with its increased infectivity may well have shaken their complacency a lot.

We'll see how things are in another 3 months. Meanwhile things aren't looking good in Sydney.

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This thing moves so fast I doubt it will be looking good anywhere in a few weeks. Only thing to do now is hold it down and get those AZ vaccinations into people ASAP..then wait 12 weeks for the next shot..then wait two weeks after that. We might be out of this lockdown by christmas.

 

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1 minute ago, Melibob said:

This thing moves so fast I doubt it will be looking good anywhere in a few weeks. Only thing to do now is hold it down and get those AZ vaccinations into people ASAP..then wait 12 weeks for the next shot..then wait two weeks after that. We might be out of this lockdown by christmas.

 

Yeah - why I said 3 months. That's the best case and if people keep refusing the Astra vaccine - shrug. Going to be a lot more sick people.

My daughters are worried their bookings will get canceled - they booked as soon as permitted for their age cohort.

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1 minute ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Yeah - why I said 3 months. That's the best case and if people keep refusing the Astra vaccine - shrug. Going to be a lot more sick people.

My daughters are worried their bookings will get canceled - they booked as soon as permitted for their age cohort.

FKT

Victoria has pretty much thrown the AZ option wide open. 

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1 minute ago, Melibob said:

Victoria has pretty much thrown the AZ option wide open. 

Same but they were both booked for Pfizer and if they get it when their appointment says, the 3 weeks from first appt (in 2 weeks) to second is a shorter time frame than Astra now & 12 weeks to 2nd shot. They made those appointments before Astra was opened up for them, the aim was to get vaccinated ASAP not do brand shopping.

If their Pfizer appts get pulled they're both going to get Astra ASAP. I've got my 2nd dose booked in at the 8 week point. I'm hoping to be far from Sydney by the 12 week mark and might be easier getting travel permission with both shots. I hope. Should be finished lab upgrades (God I hate zoom) in another week or 2.

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8 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Same but they were both booked for Pfizer and if they get it when their appointment says, the 3 weeks from first appt (in 2 weeks) to second is a shorter time frame than Astra now & 12 weeks to 2nd shot. They made those appointments before Astra was opened up for them, the aim was to get vaccinated ASAP not do brand shopping.

If their Pfizer appts get pulled they're both going to get Astra ASAP. I've got my 2nd dose booked in at the 8 week point. I'm hoping to be far from Sydney by the 12 week mark and might be easier getting travel permission with both shots. I hope. Should be finished lab upgrades (God I hate zoom) in another week or 2.

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Still no pfizer available for Victorian youth. Son's got first AZ booked in 4 weeks, Daughters second in abt 6 weeks.

I might call him and see if he can rock up to one of the state vaccine places and get it faster. There's going to be a bit of a log jam everywhere with those getting their  second AZ doses pushing newbs aside unless more clinics open I reckon.

Demand will outstrip Vax clinics ability unless Scotty's Commander Covid gets his finger out and actually does something.

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That which we call a rose?

AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine rebranding to 'Vaxzevria' ahead of international travel restart

AstraZeneca has become a household name, but its COVID-19 vaccine will soon be rebranded to help smooth the pathway for millions of Australians hoping to travel overseas once the international border reopens.

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  • The AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine in Australia will be renamed Vaxzevria to bring it into line with its overseas name
  • The rebrand has been approved in Europe and the company wants to ensure there is no potential confusion as internaitonal travel restarts
  • A technicality also means the Australian-made version is not approved in Europe, because Australian manufacturer CSL doesn't operate there

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The vaccine was originally called COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca but has now been officially renamed "Vaxzevria" and approved by Europe's drug regulator, the European Medicines Agency. 

In Australia, the AstraZeneca vaccine being made by biotechnology company CSL is still going by its old name, causing some confusion and creating concern it could be seen as different to the same vaccine being made overseas.

To overcome any potential issues, AstraZeneca is in the process of registering the name Vaxzevria with Australia's regulator, the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA).

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Thank YOU Sydney Morning Herald.

An extremely long but informative and upto date piece about the state of play for vaccinations in Australia.

Addresses just about everything i can think of. :)

https://www.smh.com.au/national/what-do-the-vaccine-reopening-targets-mean-and-when-is-all-the-pfizer-arriving-20210802-p58f1h.html

The vaccine rollout that “wasn’t a race” is now speeding up and immunising younger people will become key to shielding the community from fresh outbreaks as more doses of the Pfizer vaccine land on our shores. But we are still months away from the new thresholds set by the federal government for reopening Australia.

Until 70 per cent of people aged 16 and older are fully vaccinated, short, sharp lockdowns will be standard for stamping out the highly infectious Delta variant now surging around the world. The modelling by the Doherty Institute underpinning national cabinet’s four-stage plan to eventually open borders and “live with the virus” shows that going hard early to crush COVID through lockdowns not only drives down infection rates but, on an analysis by Treasury, minimises the economic pain of a looser, longer lockdown. As vaccination coverage ticks up, that cost will plummet even further, and exemptions for the immunised will offer new freedoms until restrictions are no longer needed.

But how did government arrive at those targets? What’s happening with the Pfizer supply? And when do experts think life might actually go back to normal?

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Had our second AZ jab on Thursday. Rolled up at 7am to the doctors, people waiting in line out the front and a receptionist popping in and out like a yoyo keeping tabs on the number of people.  

Throughout the whole process the staff could not have been more cheery and helpful. I queried the nurse and doc as to what time they started, answer was 6am. When I asked how long that had been going, the doc replied near to a year. 

A chap rolled up when we standing there and walked past the line to enter the medical clinic. You could here the standard greeting: "Are you here for the Covid vaccine?" 

Response was " No, Crucifixion".

Just as quick came the reply "Sorry, you want the third door on the left, no waiting." 

Cracked us all up.

Bless the medical front line staff, its not just their dedication but the manner in which they bring it.

    

 

  

 

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Hang onto your hats, Victoria's in for a shitstorm.

29 cases today. All infectious in the community.

And wastewater detections on the opposite side of town

Authorities last night also flagged unexpected wastewater detections from the past fortnight across Balwyn, Camberwell, Canterbury, Mont Albert and Surrey Hills in Melbourne's east.

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1 hour ago, Melibob said:

Hang onto your hats, Victoria's in for a shitstorm.

Yep. Get used to the lounge room. I'll be stunned if we are let out before the end of winter.

We were two days away from getting out to Mt Hotham. Would have been happy to hunker down there for the next month or so. Wifey type is down in Tas, she suggested she might stay there for a bit longer... apparently St Helens is nice at the moment.

No. 1 son just bought a cat, just so he can kick it around the house. It's stuffed. 10yo female progeny seems to be part of 3 single bubbles. Talking shit with a girlfriend for a couple of hours while strolling around a park counts as exercise apparently.

Been reading Joe Abercrombie. Suits my mood.

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Seriously, something I find it hard to believe but it's an empirical matter and evidence is mounting here, a lot of people will not get vaccinated ever by #personalchoice. They will tie up courts indefinitely litigating mandates #because freedom. They don't care about the community. They don't fear getting it or killing granny, their baby, or the postman. So the hellish choice is protect them by locking in, locking out, whatever or letting them play their hand. Huge social costs either way. 

 

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30 minutes ago, NeedAClew said:

 

Seriously, something I find it hard to believe but it's an empirical matter and evidence is mounting here, a lot of people will not get vaccinated ever by #personalchoice. They will tie up courts indefinitely litigating mandates #because freedom. They don't care about the community. They don't fear getting it or killing granny, their baby, or the postman. So the hellish choice is protect them by locking in, locking out, whatever or letting them play their hand. Huge social costs either way. 

 

Except that Australia has a historical 95% "pro vax" population.

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5 minutes ago, 00seven said:

Hand in hand with the lowest Covid VAX rate of the industrialised world.

Well trot along and have a chat with the PM about his messaging and Pfizer orders and supply.

Current data for this quarter is the 95% plus of all children under 5 are up to date with their vaccinations..even in the midst of this so called "vaccine hesitancy" Ergo, we are not a country that generally rejects the science of vaccination. 

https://www.health.gov.au/health-topics/immunisation/childhood-immunisation-coverage/immunisation-coverage-rates-for-all-children

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3 minutes ago, Melibob said:

Well trot along and have a chat with the PM about his messaging and Pfizer orders and supply.

Current data for this quarter is the 95% plus of all children under 5 are up to date with their vaccinations..even in the midst of this so called "vaccine hesitancy" Ergo, we are not a country that generally rejects the science of vaccination. 

Child vax rates have nothing to do with the current crisis though. Zip, nada, nothing.

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3 minutes ago, 00seven said:

Child vax rates have nothing to do with the current crisis though. Zip, nada, nothing.

Sigh. It's in response to Clew's comment.

If 95% of parents are vaccinating their children generally. We don't have a large percentage of "anti Vaxers" per se.

What we have is mostly a supply issue, a logistics issue, and a vaccine hub issue.

All our hubs in Vic are booked out, most have no availability for "walk ins"

Kids are clamoring for pfizer and making the hard decisions to get an AZ if they can get it faster. A lot of GPs will not risk it. The Vaccine hubs public advise is No AZ for under 60, and they are fully booked.

Sure there's some AZ hesitancy. So clear messaging from the top would help. Victoria's official health vaccine advice is STILL that under 60 should wait for Pfizer. 

I have a little faith in Australians as a whole doing the right thing. What's your problem?

 

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Hmmm? Who changes their address with Medicare every time they move?

Who's got kids on their Medicare card who've left home?

Why has the commonwealth Gov changed it's vaccination count method?

OK.it's 7 news.

https://7news.com.au/travel/coronavirus/nt-disputes-commonwealth-vaccine-figures-c-3611570

Not fair’: NT minister lashes federal government over vaccination count method, claims it is inaccurate

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19 hours ago, Melibob said:

Hang onto your hats, Victoria's in for a shitstorm.

29 cases today. All infectious in the community.

And wastewater detections on the opposite side of town

Authorities last night also flagged unexpected wastewater detections from the past fortnight across Balwyn, Camberwell, Canterbury, Mont Albert and Surrey Hills in Melbourne's east.

Yep Vic and NSW are fucked. You will now be in lockdown until sometime early next year. By then country should have reached the 70% target and then our only option is to let it rip. Anti vaxers and anti maskers can then either cower at home or die in the streets. Like the cunts deserve. 

Your Hypocrisy is breath-taking. You were sprouting all this AZ hesitancy just a few weeks ago and now you are rushing around trying to help your kids jump the que. You bag the morons for attending an anti lockdown protest, while proudly boasting how you attended a BLM rally at the height of last years lockdown.

It is the Karens like you that spend your life gossiping leftist bullshit on social media that have added to the confusion. Sprouting your googled medical 'knowledge' makes you nothing more than a female version of Jack Sparrow.

Shut the fuck up.

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Woohoo!
Lockdown lifted at 4pm. Only 9 new cases, 1 of which is a worry up in Cairns as it’s a taxi driver.. 
High school kids to wear masks at school, no issue with that at all, seems perfectly logical.

Thanks Queenslanders, awesome effort.

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17 minutes ago, shaggybaxter said:

Woohoo!
Lockdown lifted at 4pm. 

Lucky, lucky bastards.

Here in Victoria, we are still looking at the calendar, rather than our watches, to see when we will be released. And I'm not sure it's the 2021 calendar.

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4 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Yep Vic and NSW are fucked. You will now be in lockdown until sometime early next year. By then country should have reached the 70% target and then our only option is to let it rip. Anti vaxers and anti maskers can then either cower at home or die in the streets. Like the cunts deserve. 

Your Hypocrisy is breath-taking. You were sprouting all this AZ hesitancy just a few weeks ago and now you are rushing around trying to help your kids jump the que. You bag the morons for attending an anti lockdown protest, while proudly boasting how you attended a BLM rally at the height of last years lockdown.

It is the Karens like you that spend your life gossiping leftist bullshit on social media that have added to the confusion. Sprouting your googled medical 'knowledge' makes you nothing more than a female version of Jack Sparrow.

Shut the fuck up.

I think you owe me an apology.

1) You were sprouting all this AZ hesitancy just a few weeks ago and now you are rushing around trying to help your kids jump the que.

No, my children are not jumping the queue. They are taking the advice of the PM and accessing AZ vaccines by booking in an appointment with their GP as is being encouraged. I have certainly never been hesitant about the AZ and neither are my under 30 kids. 

2) You bag the morons for attending an anti lockdown protest, while proudly boasting how you attended a BLM rally at the height of last years lockdown.

I have never attended a BLM protest "at the height of last years lockdown". I attended a legally permitted protest when the lockdown was over, with organiser controlled spacing between groups of 50 and where mask wearing and social distancing was also seriously adhered to.

3) It is the Karens like you that spend your life gossiping leftist bullshit on social media that have added to the confusion

I do not use my social media accounts for any other purpose than video calling friends overseas, my son in lockdown and keeping in contact with old school mates. I do not use my social media account to access "news" or "follow" anybody at all. I do not open the very few "suggested"  articles or links FB send me

So maybe you should shut the fuck up.

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