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17 minutes ago, ShortForBob said:

So, are you saying there have  NOT been Extremist anti vaxers and right wing agitators on the front lines of Melbourne protests?

While the CFMEU is one of our more militant left wingUnions, It would be a bit odd for them to be hurling crates and bottles at the CFMEU secretary and headquaters and chanting anti left slogans.

It's people like you that are willing tools of these people.

Think.

Militant unionists being threatened with job site bans throwing things at the militant union leaders for not protecting their right to work? Not surprising to me.

YOU think.

 

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The people who aren't on the news, the nurses, drs, police etc are fucking legends. The professionals deserve as much thanks as we can muster. And that starts with us helping them and gettin

Had our second AZ jab on Thursday. Rolled up at 7am to the doctors, people waiting in line out the front and a receptionist popping in and out like a yoyo keeping tabs on the number of people.  

No, they well and truely live off me (and others who work in the private world and earn enough to be a net contributor to government)

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2 minutes ago, 00seven said:

Militant unionists being threatened with job site bans throwing things at the militant union leaders for not protecting their right to work? Not surprising to me.

 

 

No, of course it wouldn't be surprising...to you.

It's too far a stretch of your imagination to think that Extremists will use any protest to further their agenda, regardless of the fact that 

"It is unclear whether all of those protesting are construction workers, after a message on the Melbourne Freedom Rally Telegram group encouraged anti-lockdown protesters to join them."

Even your beloved R wing media outlets are reporting that there were infiltrators at that protest.

Must be a hard choice for them. Admit that the CFMEU were not responsible for the violence or let a good anti vaxxer story go.

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25 minutes ago, ShortForBob said:

No, of course it wouldn't be surprising...to you.

It's too far a stretch of your imagination to think that Extremists will use any protest to further their agenda, regardless of the fact that 

"It is unclear whether all of those protesting are construction workers, after a message on the Melbourne Freedom Rally Telegram group encouraged anti-lockdown protesters to join them."

Even your beloved R wing media outlets are reporting that there were infiltrators at that protest.

Must be a hard choice for them. Admit that the CFMEU were not responsible for the violence or let a good anti vaxxer story go.

It was a CFMEU protest Meli. Are you trying to tell us that militant CFMEU members wouldn't throw things? That the members chose to hold their protest at CFMEU headquarters might tell you something.

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Just now, 00seven said:

It was a CFMEU protest Meli. Are you trying to tell us that militant CFMEU members wouldn't throw things? That the members chose to hold their protest at CFMEU headquarters might tell you something.

Wrong.

It was a protest by tradies, construction workers and others. Some of whom may have been CFMEU members.

It was NOT a protest sanctioned by the CFMEU.

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54 minutes ago, 00seven said:

It was a CFMEU protest Meli. Are you trying to tell us that militant CFMEU members wouldn't throw things? That the members chose to hold their protest at CFMEU headquarters might tell you something.

You're a gullible fool.

The CFMEU would be marching on parliament house.

Not their own office. And especially not attacking their leader who has already said he's against mandatory anything.

 

Go back to your bottle.

Fucking idiot.

 

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54 minutes ago, ShortForBob said:

Wrong.

It was a protest by tradies, construction workers and others. Some of whom may have been CFMEU members.

It was NOT a protest sanctioned by the CFMEU.

Have you noticed the number of hi viz at the lockdown protests?

It's a stitch up.

Tradies are too busy working.

 

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1 hour ago, ShortForBob said:

Apparently they'd been walking out of bunnings all day.

And they've got what they wanted.:angry:

The Victorian government will forcibly shutdown all construction sites in metropolitan Melbourne and all other locked down local government areas in response to violent protests on Monday.

Key points:

  • Construction sites in metropolitan Melbourne and all other locked down LGAs in Victoria will close for two weeks
  • Union leaders have blamed "extremists" for the violent protests
  • Building industry groups have criticised the government's handling of the industry

The Andrews government engaged in crisis talks on Monday night with the Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union, following the heated brawls outside the union's Elizabeth Street offices in Melbourne's CBD.

Protesters rallied against the Victorian government's mandate requiring all construction workers to have at least one COVID-19 vaccine dose by September 23.

Victoria police deployed crowd control equipment and arrested several in attendance.

Protesters throw a milk crate at security

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-20/victorian-construction-industry-shutdown/100477912

Union reaction to protests

Australian Council of Trade Unions secretary Sally McManus condemned the violent protest that occurred outside the CFMEU office.

She blamed the protest on "extremists and conspiracy theorists" who she said were "endangering the lives of their fellow citizens."

Ms McManus said she believed the protests were organised by people outside of the construction sector.

"We know from social media networks that the same people who were at the rallies on the weekend were asking people to come to these ones and to dress up in high vis," she said.

"That's not to say that there weren't people there who were also construction workers, there were.

"But the people organising and orchestrating it were people with other motives," she said.

Ms McManus said people at the CFMEU protest were not wearing a mask and she worried it could become a super spreader COVID event.

She blamed the industry's shutdown on groups which she said had "undermined" health advice.

"We don't want any industry shut down but it is a pandemic and if you can't make an industry safe, well this is what medical experts are doing," she said.

"This is very unfortunate, unions have worked very hard to try and keep construction safe."

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Maybe some Australians have more in common with some Americans than other Australians thought/would like to think.  

The world is full of nutjobs.  If Gates could get that chip in the needle, he wouldn't be giving it for free, he'd be selling it as a cancer diagnostic aka Fantastic Voyage. 

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23 hours ago, Ncik said:

Phenomenal numbers, but source?

https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/09/covid-19-vaccine-rollout-update-19-september-2021.pdf

Last page.

There are some crazy charts in there. The page breaking down how many of each vaccine has been administered, WA used almost as many AZ shots as NSW, but NSW used more than 3 times as many Pfizer shots in State and Territory Clinics.

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11 minutes ago, darth reapius said:

https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/09/covid-19-vaccine-rollout-update-19-september-2021.pdf

Last page.

There are some crazy charts in there. The page breaking down how many of each vaccine has been administered, WA used almost as many AZ shots as NSW, but NSW used more than 3 times as many Pfizer shots in State and Territory Clinics.

Wow! That's blows NSW "gold standard" out of the water.

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3 hours ago, darth reapius said:

…but NSW used more than 3 times as many Pfizer shots in State and Territory Clinics.

I think you need to look at that on a per capita basis. All jurisdictions have used hugely more Pfizer than Az, which is unsurprising considering the trashing Az got early on.

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These melbourne protests make me very sad.

We have a long and proud tradition of huge but peaceful protest in this city, with police generally there to control traffic and stand around looking pretty relaxed.

Yesterday and today, that's being undone by thugs with a different agenda.

Police using riot gear and rubber bullets.

Protesters hurling cans at reporters and intimidating the press, closing off bridges.

It will be interesting when we find out for sure who these violent provocateurs are. 

Undoubtedly there'll be some CMFEU hotheads and thugs there but I've been to many a Demonstration with the CMFEU there, and never witnessed mass behavior like this from their members. 

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42 minutes ago, darth reapius said:

Pfizer used way more across the board than AZ.

Some states have much lower AZ to Pfizer usage than other states.

reflects the level of urgency and how many phase 1A / 1B vaccinations had been given out before AZ started getting questions. 

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11 minutes ago, random. said:

Note the number of maskless. 

Probably many more actual CMFEU protesters today than yesterday.

Mind you, they are not going to be happy with infiltrators either.

I can see a few anti vaxeres and nazi heads being cracked and NOT by the police.

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2 hours ago, darth reapius said:

Are these not just the other tradies from yesterday who said they'd show up, but went to the pub instead?

All good though - one of their mates clocked them on & off again...

FKT

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7 minutes ago, ShortForBob said:

The Nurses Union are violent thugs too Eh?

 

I found the Health sector to be THE most toxic I ever encountered.

Before I got into it a misogynist warned me "The men wear earrings and the women wear shoulder pads."  It was the 90's.

It was completely and utterly brutal compared to the male dominated cultures I had worked in.

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58 minutes ago, Rushman said:

I have one question….

With some much hi vis on display in these protests

 

 

How do these “real” tradies keep their hi vis so clean?

They're union people. They spend more time complaining about the work than doing it.

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15 hours ago, ShortForBob said:

Note the number of maskless. 

Probably many more actual CMFEU protesters today than yesterday.

Mind you, they are not going to be happy with infiltrators either.

I can see a few anti vaxeres and nazi heads being cracked and NOT by the police.

Bullshit. When morons like this get all excited about being in a mob, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. The CMFEU have always been a pack of thug cunts. As soon as the first person successfully sues their employer for causing them to catch covid by letting the unvaxed into their workplace, vaccinations will become mandatory by default. No Jab, no job and hopefully no unemployment benefits either. We don't have to just get tough with the anti vax crowd, we have to smash them like the mindless vermin they are,

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On 9/18/2021 at 9:00 AM, ShortForBob said:

I bet Scomo didn't expect the furor he's caused with his Sub deal.

You truly are a moron. Of course he knew what would follow, but it is only a few moronic radical lefties and the cheese eaters complaining. Whether you socialists understand it or not the world is moving towards a confrontation with China and we need to prepare to stand up to the cunts. The evidence is mounting that Covid was in fact biological warfare and those arseholes need to be both contained and made to pay for what they have done. 

Hopefully we will arm these new subs with nuclear weapons as well.

Think how many protests you can then attend. 

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10 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Victoria has 628 new cases today.

Funnily enough both Meli and ease the sheet have gone remarkably silent over how effective Dan's 'ring of steel' works for driving covid infections down to zero.

FKT

We don't have a ring of steel.

Fuck you're pathetic.

Pm LB for some better quality bait. You could learn a thing or 2 from that Queenslander.

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2 hours ago, LB 15 said:

You truly are a moron. Of course he knew what would follow, but it is only a few moronic radical lefties and the cheese eaters complaining. Whether you socialists understand it or not the world is moving towards a confrontation with China and we need to prepare to stand up to the cunts. The evidence is mounting that Covid was in fact biological warfare and those arseholes need to be both contained and made to pay for what they have done. 

Hopefully we will arm these new subs with nuclear weapons as well.

Think how many protests you can then attend. 

 

Meli will probably be happy for Scomo to apologise to China and make amends for all of the 14 grievances.

 

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19 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Victoria has 628 new cases today.

Funnily enough both Meli and ease the sheet have gone remarkably silent over how effective Dan's 'ring of steel' works for driving covid infections down to zero.

FKT

For the last fucking time.

All together

There was NO ring of steel this lockdown.

Maybe there should have been.

Meanwhile.

I'magedding out of here.

Building partially fell in Chapel st.

We thought the library roof was coming down.

Geoscience says biggest in Eastern Australia since Europeans

It was a 6, felt like a 4 here.

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2 minutes ago, ShortForBob said:

For the last fucking time.

All together

There was NO ring of steel this lockdown.

 

"ring of steel" was nothing but a catch cry of Dan's. The key point is that Dan's "superior" tactic for controlling Delta was not as effective as you idiots claimed it was when you were bagging NSW. 

Victoria and NSW are both in big lockdowns, but at least NSW suffered few lockdown days compared to Victoria until Delta hit.

Gladys deserves her gold star handling of Covid, Dan deserves a mud star. 

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2 hours ago, The Dark Knight said:

"ring of steel" was nothing but a catch cry of Dan's. The key point is that Dan's "superior" tactic for controlling Delta was not as effective as you idiots claimed it was when you were bagging NSW. 

Victoria and NSW are both in big lockdowns, but at least NSW suffered few lockdown days compared to Victoria until Delta hit.

Gladys deserves her gold star handling of Covid, Dan deserves a mud star. 

Gladys gets a gold star for seeding Australia. Twice.

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26 minutes ago, The Dark Knight said:

So you are saying that Dan decided against a ring of steel with predictable results.

I cant believe I have to explain it to you.

 

A ring works to contain. Containment becomes irrelevant if the next jurisdiction will not also contain.

NSW lack of ccontainment undermines and makes everyone else's effort irrelevant.

We are no longer a federation. We are all marching to the beat of Gladys.

You were quick to blame Dan for leakage from quarantine. The ring of steel prevented that leakage from getting a foothold in our region.

You'll never apply the same standard to Gladys for leakage to the rest of the country.

 

If Gladys had of been in charge of Victoria last year, we'd still be having our second wave with tens of thousands dead and a failed health system. We'd be Florida.

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So, the plan needs re-working...

"The research team whose work underpins Australia’s pandemic exit strategy believes the Delta strain of the virus is significantly more deadly than they assumed when the national plan was adopted."

...ignoring the fact that NSW threw the plan under the bus before the ink was dry.

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23 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

I cant believe I have to explain it to you.

 

A ring works to contain. Containment becomes irrelevant if the next jurisdiction will not also contain.

NSW lack of ccontainment undermines and makes everyone else's effort irrelevant.

We are no longer a federation. We are all marching to the beat of Gladys.

You were quick to blame Dan for leakage from quarantine. The ring of steel prevented that leakage from getting a foothold in our region.

You'll never apply the same standard to Gladys for leakage to the rest of the country.

 

If Gladys had of been in charge of Victoria last year, we'd still be having our second wave with tens of thousands dead and a failed health system. We'd be Florida.

Misogynistic deflection again.

Dan always blames a women

His acolyties repeat what he says.

The facts repeatedly tell you Dans a panic stricken incompetant control freak. And that's being nice to him

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37 minutes ago, Ncik said:

So, the plan needs re-working...

"The research team whose work underpins Australia’s pandemic exit strategy believes the Delta strain of the virus is significantly more deadly than they assumed when the national plan was adopted."

...ignoring the fact that NSW threw the plan under the bus before the ink was dry.

No one's following the plan, unless by accident. Queensland has SFA cases, none in community yet continue to mandate masks until midnight next Monday, lock borders and quarantine at the drop of a hat.

I have no idea what the current border restrictions are, they seem to change daily and are written in seriously obfuscated language. It seems a person may go across to to the NSW bubble for essential purposes, but anyone else does so for a non–essential purpose must get government approval to fly back, then go into 14 quarantine in government nominated accommodation.

Ludicrous. What are they going to do, fly from Tweed Heads to Coolangatta? 

The Border Restriction Direction #44 is one of the most turgid pieces of officialese I've seen.

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6 minutes ago, RobG said:

No one's following the plan, unless by accident. Queensland has SFA cases, none in community yet continue to mandate masks until midnight next Monday, lock borders and quarantine at the drop of a hat.

I have no idea what the current border restrictions are, they seem to change daily and are written in seriously obfuscated language. It seems a person may go across to to the NSW bubble for essential purposes, but anyone else does so for a non–essential purpose must get government approval to fly back, then go into 14 quarantine in government nominated accommodation.

Ludicrous. What are they going to do, fly from Tweed Heads to Coolangatta? 

The Border Restriction Direction #44 is one of the most turgid pieces of officialese I've seen.

That's because the National Plan is full of "May"s rather than "Shalls"

https://www.pm.gov.au/sites/default/files/media/national-plan-to-transition-australias-national-covid-19-response-30-july-2021.pdf

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2 hours ago, Rambler said:

Misogynistic deflection again.

Dan always blames a women

His acolyties repeat what he says.

The facts repeatedly tell you Dans a panic stricken incompetant control freak. And that's being nice to him

You're a fucking imbecile.

Misogynistic?

Jules says Hello!

That's Gillard not Bishop.

Remember Bishop? She's the extremely intelligent and competent individual screwed over by you and your ilk.

Could you be more of a partisan hack hypocrite?

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9 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

You're a fucking imbecile.

Misogynistic?

Jules says Hello!

That's Gillard not Bishop.

Remember Bishop? She's the extremely intelligent and competent individual screwed over by you and your ilk.

Could you be more of a partisan hack hypocrite?

So "Jules" trying to deflect an enquiry as to whether she might have committed a criminal offence (with the evidence looking, lets say, suspect), deflects with misogynist assertions and the whole issue disappears for her as she receives world wide accolades.

Dan finds a woman to bame for every one of his cockups and problems, but being the god he is, nothing to see here.

As for the other Jules, I was an admirer until she fought so hard to push through an extradition agreement with China. It looked dumb then and it looks idiodic now. No, she'd lost it, her time was up. 

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24 minutes ago, Rambler said:

So "Jules" trying to deflect an enquiry as to whether she might have committed a criminal offence (with the evidence looking, lets say, suspect), deflects with misogynist assertions and the whole issue disappears for her as she receives world wide accolades.

Dan finds a woman to bame for every one of his cockups and problems, but being the god he is, nothing to see here.

As for the other Jules, I was an admirer until she fought so hard to push through an extradition agreement with China. It looked dumb then and it looks idiodic now. No, she'd lost it, her time was up. 

Fuck me.

So Gillard should be in jail?

Holy shit.

Why is she not?

Surely you can't be wrong? Again?

 

And when did Bishop do her extradition thing?

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5 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Fuck me.

So Gillard should be in jail

And when did Bishop do her extradition thing?

 

3 minutes ago, ShortForBob said:

FTFY

Both of you people need to do more reading before you comment on anything.
So on Jules B, you honestly think its a good idea to ship of to China for a trial anyone who they call for - even if you haven't been to China. It was not just a dumb idea, it was dumbly worded.

As to the other Jules, your words, not mine. It was that she was under attack for when she pulled the M card. Great deflection. Lefties are great at it.

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1 minute ago, Rambler said:

 

Both of you people need to do more reading before you comment on anything.
So on Jules B, you honestly think its a good idea to ship of to China for a trial anyone who they call for - even if you haven't been to China. It was not just a dumb idea, it was dumbly worded.

As to the other Jules, your words, not mine. It was that she was under attack for when she pulled the M card. Great deflection. Lefties are great at it.

At least Dan can find a woman in his cabinet to blame. :D

 

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48 minutes ago, Mohammed Bin Lyin said:

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1st DEATH FOR FREE SPEECH: A man has died in the CBD from a "rubber" bullet to the head. Was covered in a blanket. These r Vic's A.G s. (past & present) accessories to the death of Melbourne as a first world city. Our Tyranny has accessories with the fig leaf of progressivism.... https://twitter.com/LawyersCity/status/1440512538366517253

What bullshit. That was posted at 13:00, by 19:00 not one TV news bulletin or online new site had mentioned the supposed death.

Who are "City Lawyers"?

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1 hour ago, Rambler said:

 

Both of you people need to do more reading before you comment on anything.
So on Jules B, you honestly think its a good idea to ship of to China for a trial anyone who they call for - even if you haven't been to China. It was not just a dumb idea, it was dumbly worded.

As to the other Jules, your words, not mine. It was that she was under attack for when she pulled the M card. Great deflection. Lefties are great at it.

So she called out misogyny after being attacked for being a woman?

Interesting.

And then you say that there's suspicious evidence of criminal behaviour yet can't say why she's not in jail.

Interesting.

 

And of course the foreign minister was just doing her job and competently prosecuting the government's policy. Yet you blame her when you say it was dumb and idiotic and that she'd lost it.

Interesting.

 

I'm starting to see a pattern.

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31 minutes ago, RobG said:

What bullshit. That was posted at 13:00, by 19:00 not one TV news bulletin or online new site had mentioned the supposed death.

Who are "City Lawyers"?

Just ignore Mo. Anyone else posting lies like that would get flicked but Mad Mo gets a pass because he's Mad..I think there's something in the Koran about protecting the weak and feeble.

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49 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

So she called out misogyny after being attacked for being a woman?

Interesting.

And then you say that there's suspicious evidence of criminal behaviour yet can't say why she's not in jail.

Interesting.

 

And of course the foreign minister was just doing her job and competently prosecuting the government's policy. Yet you blame her when you say it was dumb and idiotic and that she'd lost it.

Interesting.

 

I'm starting to see a pattern.

Yes, a pattern of blindness and ignorance on your part.

On the treaty, loud protests were being raised pointing out the stupidity of it and, as I recall, she had to be overruled in cabinet to bring it to an end as she defended it all the way.

On the PM, once she M card was paid, the lovies at the ABC and Fairfax hijacked the agenda and derailed any attempt by the opposition to bring her to account. And since the crime, if there was one, happened in Victoria and involved Union funds, it was going to be chased too hard by the state police, was it.

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41 minutes ago, Rambler said:

Yes, a pattern of blindness and ignorance on your part.

On the treaty, loud protests were being raised pointing out the stupidity of it and, as I recall, she had to be overruled in cabinet to bring it to an end as she defended it all the way.

On the PM, once she M card was paid, the lovies at the ABC and Fairfax hijacked the agenda and derailed any attempt by the opposition to bring her to account. And since the crime, if there was one, happened in Victoria and involved Union funds, it was going to be chased too hard by the state police, was it.

Wow.

Cool story bro.

 

Seems the liberal governments extradition treaty with China was pulled because Labor wouldn't support it through the senate. I'm guessing you won't say that was the right move.

And of course, there's a conspiracy to keep the first female PM out of jail.

Surprisingly, your reasoning on both Julie and Julia seem to have no basis in fact.

Maybe there's something else going on.

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58 minutes ago, Rambler said:

Yes, a pattern of blindness and ignorance on your part.

On the treaty, loud protests were being raised pointing out the stupidity of it and, as I recall, she had to be overruled in cabinet to bring it to an end as she defended it all the way.

On the PM, once she M card was paid, the lovies at the ABC and Fairfax hijacked the agenda and derailed any attempt by the opposition to bring her to account. And since the crime, if there was one, happened in Victoria and involved Union funds, it was going to be chased too hard by the state police, was it.

"And since the crime, if there was one"

says it all really.:rolleyes:

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8 hours ago, ShortForBob said:

"And since the crime, if there was one"

says it all really.:rolleyes:

 

8 hours ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Don't be too hard on him, he's important.

Just ask him.

Great deflection from Dan's Misogyny guys (not). All the skills of the Russian bots you probably are.

Because you clearly don't know anything about recent Australian poltical history.

So it really makes it pointless trying to discuss anything with you.

But it doesn't change the fact Dan always blames a woman for his mistakes. Actually 'mistakes' is too kind. Monumental, criminal cock-ups would be better.

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2 hours ago, Rambler said:

 

Great deflection from Dan's Misogyny guys (not). All the skills of the Russian bots you probably are.

Because you clearly don't know anything about recent Australian poltical history.

So it really makes it pointless trying to discuss anything with you.

But it doesn't change the fact Dan always blames a woman for his mistakes. Actually 'mistakes' is too kind. Monumental, criminal cock-ups would be better.

Dan always blames a woman?

Always?

Based on your previous posts, I don't expect you to back that up with actual evidence.

 

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13 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Dan always blames a woman?

Always?

Based on your previous posts, I don't expect you to back that up with actual evidence.

 

Who was responsible for 800 deaths?

Well, even though an enquiry decuded no one in the whole goivernment knew who made the security decision (we all know exactly which highly political, dominant male, made the decision), somebody had to take the wrap. A women - his health minister who wasn't even told about the decision until after it was made.

Who's responsible every time Dan loses cotrol in Victoria. A woman of course. Gladis, because she has the balls and judgement Dan lacks

Dan always has to deflect blame for his mistakes. And its always to a woman.

Where have you been for the last year. Or are you just blind. or a bot?

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9 minutes ago, Rambler said:

Who was responsible for 800 deaths?

Well, even though an enquiry decuded no one in the whole goivernment knew who made the security decision (we all know exactly which highly political, dominant male, made the decision), somebody had to take the wrap. A women - his health minister who wasn't even told about the decision until after it was made.

Who's responsible every time Dan loses cotrol in Victoria. A woman of course. Gladis, because she has the balls and judgement Dan lacks

Dan always has to deflect blame for his mistakes. And its always to a woman.

Where have you been for the last year. Or are you just blind. or a bot?

Cool story bro.

Who was responsible for the deaths in aged care? The federal minister. And the federal minister is lucky we have a vaccine because the NSW death toll would be triple Victorias

 

Who did dan appoint to run the inquiry? Was it a man?

Your claims, innuendo and mudslinging don't add up.

 

No surprises there.

Because you're a partisan hack.

 

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24 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Cool story bro.

Who was responsible for the deaths in aged care? The federal minister. And the federal minister is lucky we have a vaccine because the NSW death toll would be triple Victorias

 

Who did dan appoint to run the inquiry? Was it a man?

Your claims, innuendo and mudslinging don't add up.

 

No surprises there.

Because you're a partisan hack.

 

It's the way these guys roll.

Take a 6 word headline like 800 deaths in victoria, ignore inconvenient details and shout that headline as loud and as long as the Murdock media will let them.

Sadly, it's very effective.

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1 hour ago, ShortForBob said:

It's the way these guys roll.

 

 

2 hours ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Who did dan appoint to run the inquiry? Was it a man?

 

You're nothing if not persistant and blind. But barely earning your 50 cents a post.

Doesn't matter. No one else is reading this. I see the nurses and teachers are joining the tradies in protesting Dan's incometantency and inhumanity.

You can really help him out by standing in front of the protest and screaming out your love for him.

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NSW - 1063 new cases. Looks like the growth curve has flattened but I'm not calling that.

Victoria - 766 new cases. Definitely still on the rise.

Yep, Dan's ring of steel, hard lockdown, no excuses, no exceptions seems to be doing the job, all right.

Anyone want to take a position, pro/con on when/if the Vic daily rate exceeds NSW?

FKT

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1 hour ago, Rambler said:

 

You're nothing if not persistant and blind. But barely earning your 50 cents a post.

Doesn't matter. No one else is reading this. I see the nurses and teachers are joining the tradies in protesting Dan's incometantency and inhumanity.

You can really help him out by standing in front of the protest and screaming out your love for him.

Do you have a point?

 

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1 hour ago, Bill E Goat said:

Day 47 NSW were averaging 313, VIC 766

At this rate VIC should hit 1000 in 2-3 days which is 50 days from case zero, NSW took 65 days to hit 1000 per day

Reff (effective reproduction number) for NSW currently 0.81 VIC 1.26

https://www.covid19data.com.au/

That's good news for NSW.

Go the vaccine!

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1 hour ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

NSW - 1063 new cases. Looks like the growth curve has flattened but I'm not calling that.

Victoria - 766 new cases. Definitely still on the rise.

Yep, Dan's ring of steel, hard lockdown, no excuses, no exceptions seems to be doing the job, all right.

Anyone want to take a position, pro/con on when/if the Vic daily rate exceeds NSW?

FKT

Still lying about the ring of steel? That's unlike you.

As for the rest, we'll see.

Those protest are not going to help.

FWIW, I think Dan made a mistake announcing that we can't achieve 0.

Too many people have seemingly taken that to mean "why bother?"

At the moment most of those cases today are in Hume and many linked to family cases.

But looking at the people around St Kilda and East St Kilda out in the sun today in Carlisle St and Acland and Grey St, Unmasked or chin wearing combined with those protesters from who knows where. It will be pure luck if.

With the cops taken up with the Fake protesters, they can't be out on the streets enforcing compliance.

Fortunately the vax rate in Vic is heading for 80% first dose well before we hit the 1000 per day mark that NSW did, so we may avoid the numbers of hospitalisations and deaths.

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2 hours ago, Rambler said:

 

You're nothing if not persistant and blind. But barely earning your 50 cents a post.

Doesn't matter. No one else is reading this. I see the nurses and teachers are joining the tradies in protesting Dan's incometantency and inhumanity.

You can really help him out by standing in front of the protest and screaming out your love for him.

Where "Do you see" that nurses and teachers are joining the tradies?

The only reference I can find comes from the protest "organisers"

or "it has been reported" references.

I see the nurses and teachers are joining the tradies in protesting Dan's incometantency and inhumanity.

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/melbourne-braces-for-fourth-consecutive-day-of-protest-mayhem-from-tradies-antivaxxers-and-freedom/news-story/e526091018b4a5aa59657be65c464a09

 

You insult our frontline medical staff and all those people working until they are exhausted,risking their own lives and their familiies health 

Posting such bullshit.

Find a reputable source for this or just fuck off. I sincerely hope you need to go to emergency and have to wait 10 hrs in triage soon.

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42 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Do you have a point?

 

 

38 minutes ago, ShortForBob said:

Of course he does. 

When you're losing a debate, roll out more fake news and shout.

Nice little echo chamber you guys have. Two sock off different feet?

I'm very pro-vax and against protests, but your premier has entirely foreseeably created something close to a state of war down there.

Police firing rubber bullets, smashing into a tile floor the face of someone just talking to another officer, bowling over old women and perper spraying her on the ground. And then selectively appling rules depending on which side of the political fence you're sitting on (thinking BLM and related protests here).

Victoria is an embrassment to Australia.

You just don't get it that if you lock people up, deny them the opportunity to earn a living, deny them the social enviorment critical to human existance or live anything like a normal life for as long as Dan did, something is going to happen.

All because Dan was a gutless pants shitter who panicked and overreacted to each and every outbreak - and then lost control anyway - because he couldn't organise a chook raffle at a pub let alone a decent health service.

And you are part of his enabling force.  

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You're politicising this  and enabling  people that spit on nurses and healthcare workers now?

You know as well as I do that there are other forces behind these protests.

 

Healthcare workers have reportedly been spat on, with abuse from protesters forcing a community clinic and vaccination centre in Melbourne's CBD to close.

Key points:

  • A vaccine centre and another inner-city clinic have shut for at least four days
  • Police have gathered in large numbers around the CBD
  • Prime Minister Scott Morrison condemned Wednesday's protests as "disgraceful" 

cohealth chief executive Nicole Bartholomeusz said several staff had been physically and verbally abused in the city while on their way to work, and "targeted because they were wearing their cohealth identification".

"Our staff, and all health workers, deserve to be safe at work," she said.

"We have also instructed all staff not to wear their cohealth uniforms, lanyards or scrubs in the city, to avoid being targeted."

 

 

And your apology to our Nurses?

Fuck off.

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6 hours ago, ShortForBob said:

It's the way these guys roll.

Take a 6 word headline like 800 deaths in victoria, ignore inconvenient details and shout that headline as loud and as long as the Murdock media will let them.

Sadly, it's very effective.

Firstly "800 deaths in Victoria" is 4 words and a capital V.

The inconvenient details for you was that the hotel quarantine security arrangements were a complete fuckup by Dan's team causing that outbreak. Dan's team tried to coverup or cover their arses by forgetting so much and not knowing who made the decision or who approved the decisions. The inquiry was a farce called not to find out what went wrong (it was bleeding obvious and the inquiry effectively established that) but to buy Dan time to protect himself.

No need for Murdoch, even the ABC were asking questions and writing such headlines.

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16 minutes ago, The Dark Knight said:

Firstly "800 deaths in Victoria" is 4 words and a capital V.

The inconvenient details for you was that the hotel quarantine security arrangements were a complete fuckup by Dan's team causing that outbreak. Dan's team tried to coverup or cover their arses by forgetting so much and not knowing who made the decision or who approved the decisions. The inquiry was a farce called not to find out what went wrong (it was bleeding obvious and the inquiry effectively established that) but to buy Dan time to protect himself.

No need for Murdoch, even the ABC were asking questions and writing such headlines.

Roll on.

By that measure Gladys is now entirely responsible for Sydney's woes by not properly ensuring the Limo drivers charged with ferrying flight crews comply with rules around PPE and testing.

Your thoughts?

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2 minutes ago, The Dark Knight said:

What fake news? Are you now in denial over last years death toll from Dan's fuckup?

 

Responding to Ramblers lies.

18 minutes ago, ShortForBob said:

Roll on.

By that measure Gladys is now entirely responsible for Sydney's woes by not properly ensuring the Limo drivers charged with ferrying flight crews comply with rules around PPE and testing.

Your thoughts?

 

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