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Abandoned Australian symptoms include unemployment, depression, poverty, homelessness, anxiety, no access to social services, Covid all around you, undiagnosed health issues, loneliness, despair and disillusionment.

Some empathy from Mark Wahlberg about Australians not being able to get home when you have just spent two weeks in quarantine and fly out next week would have been nice.

Describing his two week quarantine as 'difficult but necessary' and 'a bit of a downer' costing $400k in a luxury retreat in Byron with 'his crew' in self isolation was totally relatable..really had me tearing up. 

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The people who aren't on the news, the nurses, drs, police etc are fucking legends. The professionals deserve as much thanks as we can muster. And that starts with us helping them and gettin

Had our second AZ jab on Thursday. Rolled up at 7am to the doctors, people waiting in line out the front and a receptionist popping in and out like a yoyo keeping tabs on the number of people.  

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The Polish woman takes stupidity to a new level.

Sydney to Hobart boat owner slams Queensland's decision to quarantine crew

- 25 days straight from San Diego to Brisbane NOT stopping anywhere.

- Tracked throughout the trip by MSQ, and Qld Health given that confirmation.

- Still forced into hotel quarantine as Qld Health decide their 25 days at sea did not count towards their isolation.

- Isolated at sea a common Commonwealth exemption for state quarantine and first granted by Australian Border Force (States need that exemption) however then Qld Health overrides that.

Worst colour of any boat that has done S2H outside Jesica Watson.

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Just to finish the week with another bucket load of bullshit from the Australian Govt. 

Gillian Bird is DFAT's Ambassadeur d'Australie en France.

"The Australian Embassy continues to support the Australian Government to help bring more people home, particularly our most vulnerable Australians."

Horseshit.

What Gillian doesn't say this is just one of ONLY two planes (the other London) the Govt subsidised Qantas to fly to Europe and back. In reality it is guaranteed quarantine places NOT airline seats 

Think about that ....3,000 empty seats land per day and Aust taxpayers just paid Qantas to fly around the world. WTF.

"ScoMo Marketing" less than 400 people out of nearly 40,000.

Cunt.

 

 

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Pretty funny how attitudes change. :lol:

On 12/16/2020 at 9:34 AM, jack_sparrow said:
On 12/16/2020 at 5:51 AM, astro said:

Jacky-boi has been calling for....open borders

Calling for open borders REPLACED with 'outbreak areas' being ring fenced. Feds have recommended this.

20 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

It's only Northern Beaches you have to lock down before Christmas not greater Melbourne.

 

 

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Wow this virus spreads fast. Imagine where we would be now if Scomo didn’t hold his ground on all those covid deniers that have changed their minds and want to come home and be trusted to self isolate. 

On a positive note, the TV ratings for the Boxing Day test will be inflated by all those Hobart race crews with nothing better to do over this holiday season.  

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1 hour ago, LB 15 said:

Wow this virus spreads fast. Imagine where we would be now if Scomo didn’t hold his ground on all those covid deniers that have changed their minds and want to come home and be trusted to self isolate. 

You mean like this stupid cunt that got kidney cancer and is alone.

 

 

Or do you mean like this unapologetic cunt in London....unapologetic for waking me up and taking my departure lounge resting place .....unapologetic for getting a flight and pinching my quarantine place.......then getting to Sydney 'maskless' from the Covid murder capital of Europe and going home to 'self isolate'.........surely not to 'self isolate' at his Avalon home a jewel of the Northern Beaches.

Morrison lying cunt and his crew of unapologetic, grafting, two faced cunts....one law for us cunts.

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2 hours ago, LB 15 said:

On a positive note, the TV ratings for the Boxing Day test will be inflated by all those Hobart race crews with nothing better to do over this holiday season.  

"...nothing better to do..."

If they are in Sydney now and from WA or QLD I would get home really fucking quick, otherwise there will be absolutely nothing to do and they will be ALONE next week and beyond that, doing that nothing.

Those two useless Premiers have their hand on the 'border closure trigger'. In QLD the Polish woman's 'border closure trigger' is held by some menapausel woman who thinks it's a fucking garage door opener.

Otherwise those S2H lot will be watching that test from a state hotel quarantine room and paying $3K for the privilege, or $2k if they bunk up.

Then joining MORE sportspeople denying MORE quarantine places for MORE stranded Australians. 

Ignorant cunts for not getting out of Sydney sooner...any cunt could see this was going to happen....couldn't they cunt??

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1 hour ago, jack_sparrow said:

You mean like this stupid cunt that got kidney cancer and is alone.

 

 

Or do you mean like this unapologetic cunt in London....unapologetic for waking me up and taking my departure lounge resting place .....unapologetic for getting a flight and pinching my quarantine place.......then getting to Sydney 'maskless' from the Covid murder capital of Europe and going home to 'self isolate'.........surely not to 'self isolate' at his Avalon home a jewel of the Northern Beaches.

Morrison lying cunt and his crew of unapologetic, grafting, two faced cunts....one law for us cunts.

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Yes you can't have those diplomats going back and forth between countries...but I agree he is a cunt. Obviously the source of this latest outbreak as well. Are you in terminal one? They do great decorations I recall. Looks like thanks to this unprecedented, deadly global pandemic Scott Morrison, you will get to see them on the 25th. 

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1 hour ago, jack_sparrow said:

"...nothing better to do..."

If they are in Sydney now and from WA or QLD I would get home really fucking quick, otherwise there will be absolutely nothing to do and they will be ALONE next week and beyond that, doing that nothing.

Those two useless Premiers have their hand on the 'border closure trigger'. In QLD the Polish woman's 'border closure trigger' is held by some menapausel woman who thinks it's a fucking garage door opener.

McGowan's already shut the gate...as of midnight last night. My nephew was due to fly in from Sydney today but had the wherewithal to get down to Sydney airport early yesterday morning and managed to get on a plane to Perth about midday yesterday. Mid-flight the rules changed and when he arrived he had a Covid test and told to self-quarantine until he received results from his test.  If he hadn't got on that plane yesterday he would've had to go into 14 day self-quarantine. Still not out of the woods yet because if there was anyone on that flight that comes back positive then his quarantine period would probably be extended beyond Xmas day.

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7 minutes ago, Alhadder said:

McGowan's already shut the gate...as of midnight last night. My nephew was due to fly in from Sydney today but had the wherewithal to get down to Sydney airport early yesterday morning and managed to get on a plane to Perth about midday yesterday. Mid-flight the rules changed and when he arrived he had a Covid test and told to self-quarantine until he received results from his test.  If he hadn't got on that plane yesterday he would've had to go into 14 day self-quarantine. Still not out of the woods yet because if there was anyone on that flight that comes back positive then his quarantine period would probably be extended beyond Xmas day.

I have just worked out how to get out of Christmas lunch with my sister in law. Does anyone know the phone number for the Newport Arms? I want to book a table for lunch tomorrow.

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Not making anything of it politically, but maybe some will now understand a bit about the differences in outbreaks.

Melbourne, we had a terrible outbreak traced to people that work several jobs and live with big families. Outside work and home and shopping for groceries, I doubt they go out much.

NSW you're getting older people, couples. Don't work, retirees, spent their day traveling between a cafe for breakfast, a swim at the beach (using change rooms) lunch in another cafe, a massage and then afternoon at the bowling club, dinner and gig at the RSL. (Where do they get  the energy?) Probably a bit of christmas shopping too.

It will be interesting to see if the spread is different and more or less easily contained than Melbourne was.

 

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3 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Or do you mean like this unapologetic cunt in London....unapologetic for waking me up and taking my departure lounge resting place .....unapologetic for getting a flight and pinching someone's quarantine place......

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2 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Are you in terminal one? They do great decorations I recall. Looks like thanks to this unprecedented, deadly global pandemic Scott Morrison, you will get to see them on the 25th. 

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Fuck me dead mate...can't you fucking keep up. Upthread I posted my "no quarantine required" free pass. 

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Truth be known the only reason I stood up in that terminal pic was because I dropped a huge fart from only eating airline terminal curries for 6 months. As soon as I did that, that cunt Brandis pushed passed me and stole my seat.

He was sniffling and sweating like a fucking pig so my guess is he couldn't smell anything. I'm sure he is getting well now home 'self-isolating' in Avalon with his bad flu or at least not going over the Spit Bridge to get on the piss.

Speaking of seats. He and I were on the same plane. I got bumped up to business class taking his and they shoved him down the back as he was coughing and spitting in everyone's Expresso Martini's.

"Are you in  terminal one? They do great  decorations I recall"

Obviously not. So now I'm home and yes the Xmas tree and decorations are up and the Scandanavian GF is enjoying the warm weather. The stupid thing keeps turning the air con on high putting boots on and having her nipples get erect pretending she is home....but without the dead people.

Mate your Xmas setup looks a bit fucking sparce. 

You should hit up the Polish woman for some sort of compo if her border closures knocked around your cash flow.  Or was it she stopped you getting one of those really good trees from temperate NSW, unless you isolated it first in the garage for 14 days and then too late??? 

Fucking shame mate. At least it will make the presents and your dick look bigger. 

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29 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

Melbourne, we had a terrible outbreak traced to people that work several jobs and live with big families. Outside work and home and shopping for groceries, I doubt they go out much....

..It will be interesting to see if the spread is different and more or less easily contained than Melbourne was.

You forget the infected meat workers they put in the same hotel, Rydges....which the private security people had no authority to control. 

As for contact/tracing Victorias only contact/tracing was on the shelf at OfficeWorks containing glue and tracing paper. 

More than a subtle difference.

Denial runs deep.

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Seems like Glady's eagerness to keep NSW open to international airlines and trust with the self isolation of crew (no security at all) may bring NSW record undone.

An international airline crew that flew into Sydney earlier this month has been fined by NSW Police for breaching self-isolation orders.

Key points:

  • Members of an international airline crew breached self-isolation rules after flying into Sydney from South America
  • Thirteen crew members were issued with $1,000 fines by NSW Police
  • From next week international airline crews will face mandatory hotel quarantine in NSW

It comes as NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian today announced that from Tuesday, international airline crews would be subjected to mandatory hotel quarantine for 14 days.

7.30 understands the 13 airline crew fined landed in Sydney on a flight repatriating Australians from South America on Saturday, December 5.

A source told 7.30 that a group of airline staff were caught out and about at a variety of different venues in Mascot when they should have been self-isolating in their hotel rooms.

An initial complaint was made about one staff member leaving the hotel, which was not under police guard, and that after officers investigated the breach they found another 12 airline crew had also left their accommodation.

In a statement, NSW Police confirmed that 13 people were issued $1,000 penalty infringement notices.

It is believed the airline crew has since returned home but it is not known if any staff members tested positive for COVID-19.

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38 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

Not making anything of it politically, but maybe some will now understand a bit about the differences in outbreaks.

Melbourne, we had a terrible outbreak traced to people that work several jobs and live with big families. Outside work and home and shopping for groceries, I doubt they go out much.

NSW you're getting older people, couples. Don't work, retirees, spent their day traveling between a cafe for breakfast, a swim at the beach (using change rooms) lunch in another cafe, a massage and then afternoon at the bowling club, dinner and gig at the RSL. (Where do they get  the energy?) Probably a bit of christmas shopping too.

It will be interesting to see if the spread is different and more or less easily contained than Melbourne was.

 

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You're forgetting that both outbreaks contained a cohort of individuals who didn't get a timely test and continued to work/socialise while symptomatic.

 

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7 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

Seems like Glady's eagerness to keep NSW open to international airlines and trust with the self isolation of crew (no security at all) may bring NSW record undone.

An international airline crew that flew into Sydney earlier this month has been fined by NSW Police for breaching self-isolation orders.

Key points:

  • Members of an international airline crew breached self-isolation rules after flying into Sydney from South America
  • Thirteen crew members were issued with $1,000 fines by NSW Police
  • From next week international airline crews will face mandatory hotel quarantine in NSW

It comes as NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian today announced that from Tuesday, international airline crews would be subjected to mandatory hotel quarantine for 14 days.

7.30 understands the 13 airline crew fined landed in Sydney on a flight repatriating Australians from South America on Saturday, December 5.

A source told 7.30 that a group of airline staff were caught out and about at a variety of different venues in Mascot when they should have been self-isolating in their hotel rooms.

An initial complaint was made about one staff member leaving the hotel, which was not under police guard, and that after officers investigated the breach they found another 12 airline crew had also left their accommodation.

In a statement, NSW Police confirmed that 13 people were issued $1,000 penalty infringement notices.

It is believed the airline crew has since returned home but it is not known if any staff members tested positive for COVID-19.

Fancy an outbreak occurring because people didn't do as required.

It's obviously the premier's fault....

 

And poor track and trace systems.

 

Obviously!

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NSW will contain the cluster very well.

Their contact tracing is forensic.

The reason why they are successful is due to their public health teams.

They have a localised approach where they engage and work in unison with GP’s and local hospitals.

The main reason Victoria struggled is DHHS is centralised and it is very large. As a result, Andrews is de-merging DHHS.

Unlike other premiers, Gladys backs this and doesn’t hide behind lockdowns.

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7 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

In QLD the Polish woman's 'border closure trigger' is held by some menapausel woman who thinks it's a fucking garage door opener.

Quick as a blink ..she found the B&D remote.

At least it is 'hot spotted' now, not the 'whole of state' shit.

Arrive in sunny QLD after 1.00am EST Sat (in 6 hours) from the Sydney Nth Beaches LGA, it is into the user pays love hotel for 14 days from time of entry. 

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Know anyone Covid free and in a bind needing to get to QLD...this route over Mt Barney works. 

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I think Sydney needs to lockdown now and Gladys needs to show some humility and leadership before this spreads out of control and leaks over borders. This is the week before Christmas FFS, everyone out and about, shopping partying and dining all over Sydney not Winter in Melbourne.

Cases or close contacts of cases locations highlighted. I don't know Sydney very well, but seems to me this could be all over the city. Remember we had one guy had a meal in Shepperton?

  • Coast Palm Beach Cafe, Barrenjoey Rd, Palm Beach, on Sunday, December 13, 10:00am to 11:00am
  • Avalon Bowlo (bowling club), 4 Bowling Green Ln, Avalon, on Sunday, December 13, 5:00pm to 7:00pm and Tuesday, December 15, 3:00pm to 5:00pm
  • Sneaky Grind Cafe, 3/48 Old Barrenjoey Rd, Avalon Beach, on Monday, December 14, 9:30am to 11:00am
  • Palm Beach female change rooms on Sunday, December 13, 9:00am to 9:15am
  • Avalon Beach RSL Club, Friday December 11, All day until closed
  • Bangkok Sidewalk Restaurant, 1/21-23 Old Barrenjoey Rd, Avalon Beach, on Monday, December 14, 7:00pm to 8:00pm
  • Barramee Thai Massage and Spa, 4/42-44 Old Barrenjoey Rd, Avalon Beach, on Monday, December 14, 2:00pm to 3:30pm
  • Palm Beach female change rooms on Sunday, December 13, 9:00am to 9:15am
  • The Avalon RSL at any time on December 11
  • The Penrith RSL Club on December 13 from 1:00pm to 6:00pm
  • The Kirribilli Club on December 14 from 12:00pm to 3:00pm

  • Woolworths Mona Vale, 25/29 Park St, Mona Vale, December 13, 12:00pm-12:30pm
  • Aldi Mona Vale, 13 Bungan St, Mona Vale, December 13, 12:45pm-1:30pm
  • Avalon Beach Surf Life Saving Club, December 13, 14 and 15, 9:00am-9:30am
  • Palm Beach Rockpool, Lot 1 Rock Bath Rd, Palm Beach, December 14, 9:30am-10:30am, December 16 8:00am-9:00am
  • Woolworths Avalon, 74 Old Barrenjoey Rd, Avalon Beach, 13 December, 12:00pm-5:00pm, December 14, 5:00pm-5:30pm and December 15, 12:00pm to 12:30pm
  • Commonwealth Bank, 47 Avalon Parade, Avalon Beach, December 15, 12:00pm-12:15pm
  • Mitre 10, 49 Avalon Parade, Avalon Beach, December 15, 12:00pm-12:20pm
  • Roof Racks World, 13/87 Reserve Rd, Artarmon, December 15, 2:00pm-2:30pm
  • HongFa BBQ Restaurant, Dee Why, December 15, 4:30pm-4:45pm
  • Dee Why Fruit Market, 33 Oaks Avenue, Dee Why, December 15, 4:45pm-4:55pm
  • North Avalon Cellars, 4/3 N Avalon Rd, Avalon Beach, December 15, 6:00pm-6:05pm
  • Careel Bay Dog Park and Hitchcock Park, Barrenjoey Rd, Avalon, December 16, 7:00am-7:30am
  • Brot and Wurst, 1442 Pittwater Rd, North Narrabeen, December 16, 2:00pm-2:05pm
  • Avalon Beach Post Shop, 45 Avalon Parade, Avalon Beach, December 16 3:30pm-3:50pm
  • Bing Lee, Gateway, 1 Mona Vale Rd, Mona Vale, December 14, 4:30pm to 4:45pm
  • Oliver's Pie, Careel Shopping Village, 1 Careel Head Rd, Avalon Beach, December 14, 9:00am to 9:15am
  • Oliver's Pies, 45 Avalon Parade, Avalon Beach, December 16 3:30pm-3:50pm
  • Hungry Ghost Cafe, 20 Avalon Parade, Avalon, December 13, 9:30am to 11am, and December 15, 9:30am to 11am
  • Forest Rangers FC Little Rangers session at Gannons Park Pindari Rd and Isaac Street, Peakhurst, December 11, 4:30pm to 5:30pm
  • Chemist Warehouse, 4/74 Old Barrenjoey Rd, Avalon Beach, December 14, 5:20pm-5:25pm
  • If you were at these train stations, get tested and isolate until you receive a negative result

  • Roseville to Redfern, 6.50-7.40am, Monday, December 14
  • Redfern to Milsons Point, 11.20am-11.45am Monday, December 14
  • Milsons Point to Roseville, 3.15-3.40pm Monday, December 14
  • Locations of close contacts:

    Confirmed cases of COVID-19 have visited a number of locations around Sydney.

  • Sienna Marina, 7-41 Cowper Wharf Road, Woolloomoolo, 11 December, 12:00-2:00pm

    Anyone who spent one hour or longer at the restaurant at this time must get tested and isolate until December 25. Other patrons should monitor for symptoms, and isolate and get tested immediately if symptoms appear.

  • Pilgrims Vegetarian Cafe, 97 Gerrale St, Cronulla, 16 December 11:30am-2:30pm

    Anyone who was at the cafe during this time for one hour or more must be tested immediately and isolate until 30 December. Other patrons should monitor for symptoms, and get tested immediately if they appear.

  • Cronulla RSL Club, 38 Gerrale St, Cronulla on 16 December, 5:00pm to closing time.

    Anyone who was at the RSL at this time must get tested and isolate until further notice. Close contacts will need to isolate until 30 December.

  • Anyone who attended the following locations is considered a close contact and must get tested and isolate for 14 days regardless of the result:

  • Hair by Erika, Village Shopping Centre Lane Cove, 11 December, 3.30-5:00pm
  • Rusti Fig Cafe Newport, 12 December, 9:00-10:00am
  • Salon of Hair Turramurra, 15 December, 10:00am-3:00pm, and 16 December, 9:30am-3:30pm
  • Locations of casual contacts

    People who have visited the following locations are casual contacts, and should get tested immediately and isolate until they receive a negative result:

  • Coles Newport, 11 December, 5:00-7:00pm, and 12 December, 3:15-3:30pm
  • Hills Florist, Terrey Hills, 12 December, 8:00-8:45am — close contacts have been contacted directly by NSW Health
  • Restaurant Lovat, Newport, 12 December, 2:15-2:25pm and 4:10-4:15pm
  • Nourished Wholefood Cafe, Avalon, 12 December, 7:30-7:40am
  • RAN Sailing Association Darling Point, Navy Bear Cafe and Christmas party, 13 December, 10:00am-4:00pm
  • Sabiang Thai Restaurant, 4/49 Old Barrenjoey Rd, Avalon Beach, 13 December, 6:00-8:00pm
  • Seven West Media Building, 8 Central Ave, Eveleigh, 14 December, 8:00-11:30am
  • Mentmore and Morley Cafe and public toilets, 55 Mentmore Ave, Roseberry, 14 December 10:00am-3:00pm
  • Harris Farm, Mona Vale Plaza, 14 December, 11:00-11:10am
  • Paris Seafood Cafe, 136 Cronulla, 15 December, 8:30-9:00pm
  • Cronulla Mall, 15 December, 8-9pm and 16 December 11:00am-12:00pm
  • Blend @ Grantham Cafe, Riverstone, 16 December 11:00-11:45am
  • Westfield Bondi Junction, 15 December, 1:00-2:30pm
  • Forest Way Fruit Market, 2 Myoora St, Terrey Hills, 16 December, 4:00-4:10pm
  • Close and casual contact on transport services

    Confirmed cases travelled on the following transport services. Other passengers are considered to be casual contacts, and should get tested and isolate until a negative result is received.

  • Ferry from Palm Beach to Wagstaffe, 16 December, 6:15pm-6:35pm
  • Forest Coach Lines buses between Forestville and the CBD

    - Route 273, 15 December, Departing Jamieson Square, Forestville, 7.10am and arriving QVB, 8:00am

    - Route 271, 15 December, Departing QVB 5.25pm and arriving Austlink Business Park Belrose 6:28pm

    - Route 273, 16 December, Departing Jamieson Square, Forestville 7.10am and arriving QVB, CBD, 8:00am

    - Route 271, 16 December, Departing QVB 5:25pm and arriving Austlink Business Park Belrose, 6:28pm

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Speaking from the Badgery's Creek Bingo Hall, Daryl Maguire confirmed that Gladys will not be shutting borders; “It would make her look bad and besides, she doesn't have to, every other State will do it for her” he quipped before fully endorsing the message from Head Office in Canberra; “NSW is the Gold Standard for Covid 19 suppression”.

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On 11/30/2020 at 3:35 PM, jack_sparrow said:

Their chances to be on that Qatar 18 December flight?

Fearful.

There are over 100 passengers booked on that flight to Perth. The average manifest to date around 50.  

Remember this family.

They land in Perth in around an hour and a half. 

 

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It's very quiet in here.

Burnet Institute epidemiologist Mike Toole said NSW was putting the entire nation at risk by not mandating masks and placing too much faith in its heralded contact tracing system.

 

"I have been saying the same mantra over the years: go hard and go fast. And this is not hard or fast," he said.

Professor Toole said he was shocked to see TV images of people at Sydney Airport not socially distancing in check-in queues and not wearing masks, saying the NSW government's decision not to mandate them at airports was "bordering on negligence".

"It was just shocking to anyone from Melbourne," he said.

Adrian Esterman, an epidemiologist at the University of South Australia, said the NSW government was being selfish by not introducing stricter measures, describing those introduced to date as "wishy-washy".

 

He advised Victoria to close its borders to NSW, as he warned that the chances of the outbreak leaking into Greater Sydney in the coming days was "fairly high".

Professor Esterman said while NSW had proven it was able to control outbreaks before, the cluster had not previously been this big.

"With borders closed, they can do their own thing. They can have clusters every week and they can suppress them," he said.

"But now that borders are open, they're now risking places like Victoria, which went through months of hell to get down to zero cases, which isn't fair."

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1 hour ago, Shortforbob said:

Burnet Institute epidemiologist Mike Toole said NSW was putting the entire nation at risk by not mandating masks and placing too much faith in its heralded contact tracing system.

The Feds publish every Covid report like clockwork. 

As yourself why HAVEN'T they released the results of their report finished last month into each of the states contact/trace capability??

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It would make her look bad and besides, she doesn't have to, every other State will do it for her”

Daryl certainly has his finger on the pulse, the other States are lining up to close the borders and Canberra is working on the talking points to support the tough stance taken by their Golden Girl.

Singing and dancing banned ! ! !.............no one could have seen that coming.

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"Under the advice of Gladys Berejiklian there was no other option than to cancel the race".

First she killed Kings Cross.

Then she killed the Koalas.

Now she's killing sailing.

“NSW is the Gold Standard for Covid 19 suppression

Hahahahahahahaha, I think the phrase is "I told you so".

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11 minutes ago, darth reapius said:

"Under the advice of Gladys Berejiklian there was no other option than to cancel the race".

Last time I looked it was a race from Sydney to Hobart, not Hobart to Sydney?

Or are you saying Gladys is the Premier of Tasmania and decided that no-one could enter Tasmania from Greater Sydney without a entry permit and quarantining for 2 weeks upon arrival. 

I wish to fuck McGowan would electrify his rabbit proof fence to keep his bigger rabbits in. 

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On 12/18/2020 at 2:45 PM, Ease the sheet. said:

Seems like Glady's eagerness to keep NSW open to international airlines and trust with the self isolation of crew (no security at all) may bring NSW record undone.

The states don't make the ruling on HOW states quarantine, that is a Feds decision.  Airline crew 'self quarantine' with no added protection is a Feds decision. 

So the only people who are literally flying around the world’s hot spots, are NOT required to quarantine in anything better than bare bones self quarantine. 

Then add that those aircraft are only carrying 10% of their capacity due to shortage of supervised quarantine places. That is around 10 times MORE airline crew arriving from these world hot spots, compared to if they were running to aircraft capacity with matching quarantine capacity.  

Morrison was told by his own health department and others the current international quarantine system is unsustainable.

He was warned and ignored it.

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I really don't understand why NSW gov is so leery of mandatory mask use.

It's a no brainer if they're only imposing  restrictions in the Northern beaches until Wednesday.

I noticed Gladys hesitation yesterday. . four things, Work,  Exercise, Christmas er Shopping and compassionate grounds. (she omitted the words essential shopping and all retail is open)

Wearing masks wouldn't be a political thing in NSW would it?

and 10 people in addition to family allowed in homes? 

These restrictions are pathetic.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/what-you-can-and-cant-do-under-rules/northern-beaches#staying-at-home

You'd have thought that Victoria's pain would have taught them something.

Looks like Gladys is sacrificing public health for the Christmas dollar. 

Good luck (oh that's right, luck has nothing to do with it does it?)

 

 

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2 hours ago, Shortforbob said:

These restrictions are pathetic.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/what-you-can-and-cant-do-under-rules/northern-beaches#staying-at-home

You'd have thought that Victoria's pain would have taught them something.

By your experience those NPI's are undercooked, but one would hope are matched to NSW CT capability ....what ever the fuck that actually is, there or in any state.

Andrews is a lying prick and pre the 800, an incompetent prick...but he is the one around that National Cabinet table people should be listening to.

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Seems McGowan is the go to guy re how to get rid of this virus...well according to him of course.

Darth will be along shortly to praise the Almighty McGowan

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-20/wa-premier-mark-mcgowan-urges-nsw-to-go-further-on-covid-cluster/13001848

West Australian Premier Mark McGowan has urged New South Wales to follow his state's lead in preventing the spread of COVID-19, after the eastern state recorded 30 new cases overnight.

...

Mr McGowan welcomed the new restrictions, saying it was a big improvement for the state.

"I'm pleased New South Wales has taken it very seriously and the sooner they get it under control, the better it will be for all of us," he said.

"I just urge New South Wales to do everything they can to kill the virus in their state."

However, the Premier criticised New South Wales quarantine arrangements for aircrew, following allegations of breaches and non-compliance.

 

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35 minutes ago, Alhadder said:

However, the Premier criticised New South Wales quarantine arrangements for aircrew, following allegations of breaches and non-compliance.

The exact same arrangements he has in place in WA. 

Over 3 more months of this twat to endure before his polling day which is the only thing driving what he is doing.

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18 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

The exact same arrangements he has in place in WA. 

Over 3 more months of this twat to endure before his polling day which is the only thing driving what he is doing.

Sorry Jack but you got that wrong re aircrew. Further into the article it mentions that aircrew are in 2 monitored hotels.

And re the 2nd paragraph we will be enduring him a lot longer than that.

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39 minutes ago, Alhadder said:

Sorry Jack but you got that wrong re aircrew. Further into the article it mentions that aircrew are in 2 monitored hotels.

Note he doesn't mention 14 days.  He took Feds ruling of crew accommodation (which airlines are contracted) or home for 14 days after arrival, or until their next international flight. Whichever is shorter. Simply wacked a copper at their hotel front door and no home stays which in Perth none anyway. All spin.

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7 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Last time I looked it was a race from Sydney to Hobart, not Hobart to Sydney?

Or are you saying Gladys is the Premier of Tasmania and decided that no-one could enter Tasmania from Greater Sydney without a entry permit and quarantining for 2 weeks upon arrival. 

I wish to fuck McGowan would electrify his rabbit proof fence to keep his bigger rabbits in. 

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Well it was shutdown because of Gladys. Tasmania said it's still cool to go ahead, but everyone would have to quarrantine when they arrived.

"Alternative races had been considered by the club, but NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian's request for residents to limit non-essential travel left it with no other options."

Didn't you say something about how great the contact tracing in NSW was? Kinda failing pretty hard right now ay? And right in tine for Christmas. LoL. Again, I told you so.

Should have set-up the right policies, and properly eradicated the virus instead of the stupid "surpression" model, which works until... It doesn't. Exactly what happened.

2 hours ago, Alhadder said:

Darth will be along shortly to praise the Almighty McGowan

You rang?

Every day it looks like he's done a better job than every other leader in the world. All hail God Leader McGowan.

Also, hows the AC feed, people in the comments be like "wait a minute, why aren't people wearing masks" "how can people congregate in large groups".

That's how you get to live when you have a leader like McGowan or Jacinda.

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30 minutes ago, darth reapius said:

Didn't you say something about how great the contact tracing in NSW was?

Yeah fuckstick.

3 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

but one would hope are matched to NSW CT capability ....what ever the fuck that actually is, there or in any state.

And.

32 minutes ago, darth reapius said:

Kinda failing pretty hard right now ay?

What is your fail metric there? You know of a huge batch of secret cases? You know NSW percentage of cases fail point when the  original contact can't be found?

You must be very experienced on this subject being in a state that has had more cases of the clap than this virus 

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4 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Andrews is a lying prick and pre the 800, an incompetent prick...but he is the one around that National Cabinet table people should be listening to.

I'm taking that back. 

He has just introduced a 28 day user pays quarantine especially for Victorians.

Andrews just announced closing the border to visitors from Sydney and given Victorian residents until 11.59pm tomorrow to get home OR face two weeks of hotel quarantine at their expense.

Melbourne International closed since July up until recently, so Victorians returning from overseas landed in and quarantined in Sydney or elsewhere in Australia for 2 weeks. Long term bookings so more Victorians arrive daily to quarantine outside Victoria.

Now for those VICTORIANS allowed out of quarantine FROM tomorrow, but CAN'T get into Victoria by 11.59pm tomorrow, Andrews is insisting they quarantine AGAIN for 2 weeks and AGAIN at their expense.

Yeah state by state control just works dandy.

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1 hour ago, darth reapius said:

Well it was shutdown because of Gladys. Tasmania said it's still cool to go ahead, but everyone would have to quarrantine when they arrived.

Tasmanian Govt said nothing about the race.

Tasmania said high risk area would not get entry permit which is half competitors. Other half still need entry permit and mandatory quarantine. No entry permit will be issued as they don't have the quarantine places. 

How long do you have to quarantine after testing positive for Dickhead-19?

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On 12/19/2020 at 7:12 PM, jack_sparrow said:
On 11/30/2020 at 3:35 PM, jack_sparrow said:

Their chances to be on that Qatar 18 December flight?

Fearful.

There are over 100 passengers booked on that flight to Perth. The average manifest to date around 50.  

Remember this family.

They land in Perth in around an hour and a half. 

There was bang on 50 on board and where this is a flight renouned for a big number.

That's in an aircraft capable of carrying 333.

The very lucky family.

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5 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

 

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Habit and people are so stupid.  All the head rest protectors, pillows, blanket sets on the seats they knew weren't going to be using should never have been put on board.  What happens if one of those of those 50 pax tests positive tomorrow?  Will that all get cleaned or thrown out.  It wouldn't look as pleasant but unused seats should all be covered with easily cleaned plastic covers or better yet if the planes are flying around near empty removed and put into storage to save payload and therefor fuel.

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30 minutes ago, SCARECROW said:

Habit and people are so stupid.  All the head rest protectors, pillows, blanket sets on  the seats  they knew weren't going to be using .......or better yet if the planes are flying around near empty removed and put into storage to save payload and therefor fuel.

The habit is thinking these planes are flying everywhere empty...

They are only flying on legs to Australia empty.  

Don't know why they bother ....maybe they care???

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3 hours ago, SCARECROW said:

Still no reason not to leave all that stuff in plastic bags in the back of a plane.

Get your point but flying in and out of Australia now has turned everything upside down. 

- Around three times MORE people leave than arrive (some residents round trip with exemptions). 

- Flights arriving Australia passengers are loaded in business to increase return and with very few in cattle.

- Flights departing Australia passengers loaded the exact OPPOSITE, so cattle class needed. 

- Perth flights arriving small in number, Qatar an exception hence 50 pax average and it turns around NOT transiting to eastern states.

- Comes from their global hub in Doha with ground staff for in cabin work etc there. incl supervised Covid cleaning protocols. They have NO on call supervised ground staff for extraneous cabin work in Perth and the turnaround time immediate.

Hence you see what you see there.

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16 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Victorian Hotel Quarantine Inquiry findings released. 

Inquiry CAN'T identify WHO in Government decided on hotel security arrangements.

That's a surprise, 800 dead and know one knows who decided their fate.

Which would mean I would think whoever led the 'organization' should be held  criminally responsible for such negligent leadership.

Or at least that was the seeming intention of a certain controlling person's OHS amendments.

Hoisted on his own petard.

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The upside at least the HQI has exposed a fucked administration, it appears genuine efforts are being made to fix and specific findings very instructive to everyone else in positions of authority Australia wide.  

It is still not the end of the matter, no matter how much Andrews hopes it to be. 

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24 minutes ago, Rambler said:

Not since the OHS investigation process has already been started.

25 years

Hmm, one would think that you have a personal beef with Worksafe? Disgruntled employer? meh, you're ten a penny.

If you'd bother doing the right thing and TRAINING your managers, admin or worksite OH&S rep. (you do have one of those don't you?)

You'd probably find you're fears are overblown. (if as an employer, you do the right thing)

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1 hour ago, Rambler said:

Which would mean I would think whoever led the 'organization' should be held  criminally responsible for such negligent leadership.

Or at least that was the seeming intention of a certain controlling person's OHS amendments.

Hoisted on his own petard.

Maybe "self employed Australia" could employ Rudi Giuliani on the case? I believe he'll be free 20 Jan 2021. 

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=72426d95-e8eb-49f9-aa5f-900c5299d5f4

he Australian's Robert Gottliebsen, if the Victorian government applies its own law, ministers and senior public servants in their droves are prime targets for prosecution as perpetrators of workplace manslaughter.

Gottliebsen first flagged this in August and doubled down this week, declaring the only way to avoid the wholesale jailing of senior government figures will be if prosecutors refuse to, or fail to, properly apply the law.

It's a great story -- but completely wrong. Nobody will be convicted of manslaughter over the hotel quarantine debacle, and the law will survive just fine.

In late 2019 the Andrews government beefed up Victoria's occupational health and safety laws, introducing a criminal offence of workplace manslaughter. Its object was to do something serious in response to the 24 workplace deaths in the preceding couple of years, to make employers sit up and take their safety obligations more seriously. Nothing like the threat of a $16.5 million fine or 25-year jail sentence to grab the board's attention.

The crime can be committed by anyone who owes statutory workplace health and safety duties under the legislation, excluding employees and volunteers. Employers -- corporate or human, private or government -- are in the gun, as well as their directors and managers.

The OHS duties are essentially to provide a safe environment and take reasonable precautions against known and foreseeable risks. The duties are owed to employees and the public -- anyone who comes into the workplace.

To commit the manslaughter offence, an employer must do something (or fail to do something) which:

  • Is a breach of an OHS duty
  • Is negligent
  • Causes someone to die.

The key element is "negligence", which the legislation defines in terms of criminal negligence rather than the common or garden variety. This is the bit that Gottliebsen seems to have missed.

The degree of negligence required to trigger prosecution is "a great falling short" of a reasonable standard of care, which also involves a "high risk" of death, serious injury or serious illness.

That's a really high bar, miles higher than the negligence that would suffice for a civil damages claim or a regular OHS breach.

"Great" is not a commonly used legal term, but the courts will interpret it as something along the lines of "huge", "terrible", "OMG I can't believe you did that" -- that sort of territory.

According to Gottliebsen, if you're a director of a company who does all the right OHS things, "then if a staff member behaves badly causing a death or serious injury, board members would not be liable under OHS."

However: "Under the industrial manslaughter act, the board members who acted properly are still likely to face long jail sentences."

That's 100% incorrect. There is no prospect that a company director who is diligent about their OHS responsibilities could be successfully prosecuted for workplace manslaughter under the Victorian law: they would not meet the requisite standard of negligence.

The law has been designed to catch extreme cases of what really amounts to wilful recklessness, and that's all it will do.

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26 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

Hmm, one would think that you have a personal beef with Worksafe? Disgruntled employer? meh, you're ten a penny.

If you'd bother doing the right thing and TRAINING your managers, admin or worksite OH&S rep. (you do have one of those don't you?)

You'd probably find you're fears are overblown. (if as an employer, you do the right thing)

Once again you've shown

  • Your contempt for your previous clients. Clearly a failed professional. Glad we wouldn't have anything to do with you, but then you were, how do I put this, beneath our pay grade. 
  • Your inability to come close to guessing my previous occupation especially after reading my replies to you after I realized what game you were in. 
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30 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

Maybe "self employed Australia" could employ Rudi Giuliani on the case? I believe he'll be free 20 Jan 2021. 

Diesel oozing out his head and farting in front of the judge .....not a normal persons choice for representation unless they are deranged.

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20 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

 

In late 2019 the Andrews government beefed up Victoria's occupational health and safety laws, introducing a criminal offence of workplace manslaughter. Its object was to do something serious in response to the 24 workplace deaths in the preceding couple of years, to make employers sit up and take their safety obligations more seriously. Nothing like the threat of a $16.5 million fine or 25-year jail sentence to grab the board's attention.

 

I recall I had to remind you of that. And of the fact that the hotels were workplaces and letting the virus escape from them came within the scope of the legislation.

Glad you've done some homework.

 

22 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

Nothing like the threat of a $16.5 million fine or 25-year jail sentence to grab the board's attention.

 

Pity it didn't grab the attention of Victorian Ministers.

23 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

 

The crime can be committed by anyone who owes statutory workplace health and safety duties under the legislation, excluding employees and volunteers. Employers -- corporate or human, private or government -- are in the gun, as well as their directors and managers.

The OHS duties are essentially to provide a safe environment and take reasonable precautions against known and foreseeable risks. The duties are owed to employees and the public -- anyone who comes into the workplace.

To commit the manslaughter offence, an employer must do something (or fail to do something) which:

  • Is a breach of an OHS duty
  • Is negligent
  • Causes someone to die.

The key element is "negligence", which the legislation defines in terms of criminal negligence rather than the common or garden variety. This is the bit that Gottliebsen seems to have missed.

The degree of negligence required to trigger prosecution is "a great falling short" of a reasonable standard of care, which also involves a "high risk" of death, serious injury or serious illness.

That's a really high bar, miles higher than the negligence that would suffice for a civil damages claim or a regular OHS breach.

.Lets see now. We're dealing with quarantining people, some of whom will definitely bring a pandemic into Australia. So, with five minutes thought, you'd think

  • whoever is looking after them is going to need really specific rules as to what they are to do
  • for the safety of them and of the community, they are also going to need lots of training on the use of PPE because none of them will have ever even seen this stuff before.
  • PPE is really difficult to get, so we'd better make sure these guys are well supplied with the best stuff. They are more at risk than anyone else in the state at this stage.
  • Some of those being quarantined are not going to be cooperative, so we'd better provide a police presence to back up the rues, because the front line guys don't have that.

It was the most serious, high risk issue that had to be dealt with at that time. A front line issue for the senior decision makers..

Instead we have a situation where none of that was done and no one even knows why or by whom decisions were made (or at least no one is willing to admit they know).

Tell me, if a company's directors sent a bunch of school graduates into a forest with 36 inch chainsaws to clear fell it, without any training, guidance or instruction other than to go and cut down the trees, would they be responsible for any accidents? What if no one knew who's idea it was to use untrained graduates? What about if 800 of the graduates and members of the public who happened to be under falling trees died?

What's the difference?

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48 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

To commit the manslaughter offence, an employer must do something (or fail to do something) which:

  • Is a breach of an OHS duty
  • Is negligent
  • Causes someone to die.

The key element is "negligence", which the legislation defines in terms of criminal negligence rather than the common or garden variety. This is the bit that Gottliebsen seems to have missed.

The degree of negligence required to trigger prosecution is "a great falling short" of a reasonable standard of care, which also involves a "high risk" of death, serious injury or serious illness.

"Is a breach of an OHS duty
Is negligent
Causes someone to die."

- Simple absence of an appropriate OHS workplace plan nominating procedures and equipment etc. Tick.

Note: If the person who instructed the workplace activity/structure can't be found, then that absence appears pretty certain.

- A "great falling short" of reasonable care. Tick

- A pandemic and declared 'quarantinable' under the Biosecurity Act involves a "high risk" of death, serious injury or serious illness. 800 died. Tick

Now to the chain of responsibility and WHO is the responsible person(s) that get investigated?

Well isn't that the odd bit. 

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Morrisons presser 

The good. 

Morrison 

- Apology for the disappointment and necessary to secure the gains with sacrifice. 

- Reinforces adherence to the rules and people's cooperation. 

- Sits under Feds Hot Spot definition and all states responses appropriate.

- Same day testing turn around and other metrics are being met.

- 1600 ADF are supporting hotel quarantine.

- Feds financial support for people testing and isolating.

Commonwealth CFO

- Some detail about outbreak and numbers. 

- Trend is positive.

- General advice Inc QR codes and App.

______________________

Questions

- Everytime an outbreak are there going to be border closures?

Morrison passed the buck to the states. States don't want that to change. 

Are we disappointed we won't be open by Xmas and any economic impact?

Morrison unfortunate bit essential, economic hopefully minimal.

Travel restrictions with the UK?

CMO no evidence new strain is a significant change to other strains. Morrison later Hotel Quarantine system is a line of defence that works.

- Review into Victorian Hotel Inquiry no findings about responsibility.

Morrison learn from every incident. Didn't attack Andrews up to Victorians.

- Aircrews problem?

Morrison came out hard defending NSW taking the heavy lifting etc.

Only numbers NSW 3,000, 1,000 Vic, Qld 1,300 and WA 1,000 plus other lesser numbers under quarantine caps.

- You appear have abandoned taking central control, hot spot definitions etc.

Morrison defended passing buck to states.

Balance Morrison under scores Federal financial support underpinned states successful position and responses.

Closed out with NSW the "Gold Standard"

__________________

The not good.

Deliberately avoided international quarantine capacity, the numbers of people leaving and arriving and who they are. 

Passing the buck to the states as above.

No transparency about quantifying what say the NSW Gold Standard is and by inference where other states sit etc.

More transparency = greater community buy in. 

Conclusion 

Overall very good effort in the eyes of the general public. 

 

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In his press briefing this morning Scott Morrison said that the state border closures are entirely up to the state premiers and the Federal government have no control over them. He also went on to comment that aviation blogger and internet sensation, Jack Sparrow ,doesn't know Jack Shit. "Mr Sparrow is a lying cunt" said the Prime Minister.

News.com have been unable to contact Mr Sparrow for comment. 

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2 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

- You appear have abandoned taking central control, hot spot definitions etc.

Morrison defended passing buck to states.

The not good.

Passing the buck to the states as above.

How are states performing then ???

This was unfolding literaly as Morrison was speaking.

This Qantas flight from Sydney touched down at Uluru's airport around 4 hours ago. Indigenous communities are high transmission risk areas and special regs apply in all states.  

This is a day AFTER the NT declared Greater Sydney a hotspot. Uluru-KJ National Park now closed for 24 hrs while a team tests these 200+ new arrivals from NSW. There are persons from the Nth Beaches on board.

Representatives from Mutitjulu Community are spitting chips.

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2 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

The not good.

Deliberately avoided international quarantine capacity, the numbers of people leaving and arriving and who they are. 

SBS asked DFAT how many diplomats and embassy staff have returned to Australia because of the pandemic. Their answer?

We haven't a fucking clue.

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17 hours ago, Rambler said:

I recall I had to remind you of that. And of the fact that the hotels were workplaces and letting the virus escape from them came within the scope of the legislation.

Glad you've done some homework.

 

Pity it didn't grab the attention of Victorian Ministers.

.Lets see now. We're dealing with quarantining people, some of whom will definitely bring a pandemic into Australia. So, with five minutes thought, you'd think

  • whoever is looking after them is going to need really specific rules as to what they are to do
  • for the safety of them and of the community, they are also going to need lots of training on the use of PPE because none of them will have ever even seen this stuff before.
  • PPE is really difficult to get, so we'd better make sure these guys are well supplied with the best stuff. They are more at risk than anyone else in the state at this stage.
  • Some of those being quarantined are not going to be cooperative, so we'd better provide a police presence to back up the rues, because the front line guys don't have that.

It was the most serious, high risk issue that had to be dealt with at that time. A front line issue for the senior decision makers..

Instead we have a situation where none of that was done and no one even knows why or by whom decisions were made (or at least no one is willing to admit they know).

Tell me, if a company's directors sent a bunch of school graduates into a forest with 36 inch chainsaws to clear fell it, without any training, guidance or instruction other than to go and cut down the trees, would they be responsible for any accidents? What if no one knew who's idea it was to use untrained graduates? What about if 800 of the graduates and members of the public who happened to be under falling trees died?

What's the difference?

You really don't know how it works, do you?

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