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No Snaggs, I'm not dismissing all of you folks.   Just most of them.   I've lived in the US, Korea, Japan, Germany, and Poland.  Each country has its charms and its problems.  I was in the A

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7 hours ago, Ed Lada said:

OK, this is a real photo from the Facebook page of a new pizza place in my town.

Yes, those are Cheetos along with genuine fior di latte mozarella.

I really don't know what else to say about it.

 

Polish Pizza.jpg

That looks like something I could polish off for lunch.

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3 hours ago, Lark said:

I've reformed from that school of thought since high school.    Car's don't broad reach very well.   Cool wheels may have been helpful to get a date in medieval era high school, now girls seem to have different priorities.   The GF's boys never seem handicapped by lack of wheels or boring wheels.    Her son traded my heavily used Explorer 2 door, stick, cherry interior, fourth stereo (Cassette -> CD -> USB -> Bluetooth),  4wd, class II hitch, for a corolla sedan with speckled paint.   His dating  wasn't affected.    Certainly adult women don't seem too worried about what I drive.   Traffic jams have destroyed the allure of the open road late 70's movies romanticized.  

 I've come to the conclusion my Focus is just as fast as a Corvette, within the limits of the law.   A certain amount of comfort is nice for trips:  Sirius; AC, Cruise; decent seats.   A certain amount of cargo ability is important if you haul boats.   A certain amount of all terrain is useful if you don't want to get up early and shovel the drive.   Beyond that, a car is a tool.  Toyota is good if you expect to drive more then 250,000 miles before the body rusts out or the car gets totaled by a texting kid.    Ford is great if you don't.   

 

Some of us gave up the urban rat race and live where the daily drive is not a bumper to bumper agony fest so we do drive interesting and fun cars.  Sometimes we just take the S2000 out for a drive because the weather is great and we want to enjoy it.  

What happened to the concept of driving nice wheels for personal pleasure - that they are enjoyable to drive and not just to get somewhere?

Driving my blown Jag makes me feel good.

As for the idea of buying a car to impress the girls - AYFKM? Are there a bunch of small dicked 16 year olds here?

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1 minute ago, SloopJonB said:

What happened to the concept of driving nice wheels for personal pleasure - that they are enjoyable to drive and not just to get somewhere?

As for the idea of buying a car to impress the girls - AYFKM? Are there a bunch of 16 year olds here?

Have you spent any time in PA lately?>

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9 hours ago, Ed Lada said:

OK, this is a real photo from the Facebook page of a new pizza place in my town.

Yes, those are Cheetos along with genuine fior di latte mozarella.

I really don't know what else to say about it.

 

Polish Pizza.jpg

disgusting...

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3 hours ago, Lark said:

I've reformed from that school of thought since high school.    Car's don't broad reach very well.   Cool wheels may have been helpful to get a date in medieval era high school, now girls seem to have different priorities.   The GF's boys never seem handicapped by lack of wheels or boring wheels.    Her son traded my heavily used Explorer 2 door, stick, cherry interior, fourth stereo (Cassette -> CD -> USB -> Bluetooth),  4wd, class II hitch, for a corolla sedan with speckled paint.   His dating  wasn't affected.    Certainly adult women don't seem too worried about what I drive.   Traffic jams have destroyed the allure of the open road late 70's movies romanticized.  

 I've come to the conclusion my Focus is just as fast as a Corvette, within the limits of the law.   A certain amount of comfort is nice for trips:  Sirius; AC, Cruise; decent seats.   A certain amount of cargo ability is important if you haul boats.   A certain amount of all terrain is useful if you don't want to get up early and shovel the drive.   Beyond that, a car is a tool.  Toyota is good if you expect to drive more then 250,000 miles before the body rusts out or the car gets totaled by a texting kid.    Ford is great if you don't.   

 

After my youngest graduated and got a (great) job, I treated myself to a mustang convertible. On a pretty day when I'd like to be sailing, but can't, top down cruising sorta scratches the itch. Ford has come a long, long, long way in build quality over the last 20 years. Took delivery 3 years ago next week. Toyota has nothing to compete with that.

 

However, I'm stupidly looking to buy a truck for a 3rd car, and the Tundra is an awesome truck. Will probably buy a 3-4 year old used one and drive it occasionally for the rest of my life

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22 minutes ago, MaxHeadroom said:

Have you spent any time in PA lately?>

Lots - there aren't any 16 year olds in there - just a passel of rather moronic, fully grown elk.

Granted, the distinction can be moot.

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26 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

What happened to the concept of driving nice wheels for personal pleasure - that they are enjoyable to drive and not just to get somewhere?

Driving my blown Jag makes me feel good.

As for the idea of buying a car to impress the girls - AYFKM? Are there a bunch of small dicked 16 year olds here?

Maybe not impress, but avoid pissing off - she gave me an eclectic list of requirements.  Cupholders, clicker, clutch and a trunk 46 inches wide.

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8 minutes ago, On The Hard said:

Cars have come a long, long, long way in build quality over the last 20 years.

FTFY.

Now is the golden age of performance cars. 900 HP off the showroom floor - in a sedan. :blink:

9 second 1/4 miles off the showroom floor - in a sedan.

Any car with performance aspirations has HP exceeding the hottest muscle cars of yore.

With 3 times the gas mileage and the reliability of a brick. Plus brakes and handling.

Remember when 0-60 in 5 was the stuff of song lyrics?

Now family sedans do it in under 3.

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Just now, SloopJonB said:

FTFY.

Now is the golden age of performance cars. 900 HP off the showroom floor - in a sedan. :blink:

9 second 1/4 miles off the showroom floor - in a sedan.

Any car with performance aspirations has HP exceeding the hottest muscle cars of yore.

With 3 times the gas mileage and the reliability of a brick. Plus brakes and handling.

No question that you are correct, but I think Ford still gets a bad rap from people that haven't owned one in decades. I wasn't really talking about the performance aspect, although even that 4 banger turbo is plenty for me, but build quality. I've been impressed with the fit and finish. That was my point

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2 hours ago, Innocent Bystander said:

Some of us gave up the urban rat race and live where the daily drive is not a bumper to bumper agony fest so we do drive interesting and fun cars.  Sometimes we just take the S2000 out for a drive because the weather is great and we want to enjoy it.  

 

As to Ed's Pizza?  I never want to hear him bragging about European food again.....

Country roads have the speed limit enforced by stray livestock, deer and combines.    I don't think I'd be going 150 down them anyway.   If the weather is nice but there's no wind I've found bicycles and canoes to be a carbon friendly alternative without the need to drive to a gym.   :P.    

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12 minutes ago, On The Hard said:

No question that you are correct, but I think Ford still gets a bad rap from people that haven't owned one in decades. I wasn't really talking about the performance aspect, although even that 4 banger turbo is plenty for me, but build quality. I've been impressed with the fit and finish. That was my point

All part & parcel.

No-one makes a "bad" car anymore. People who say that shit don't remember what cars were like BITD.

They had way more style or soul than now - but the trouble...

Remember spring & fall tuneups? And that meant parts and real work, not just a checkover.

Bias tires that lasted maybe 20K miles - the spare (remember them) was always used at some point (remember blowouts?).

Drum brakes that were more of a suggestion that real stoppers.

Suspensions that would drag the rocker panel like a bikers knee if you tried cornering hard.

Body rust through within 3 to 5 years.

100K miles was the typical life of a car.

Plugs & points, vacuum operated wipers, incandescent headlights, balancing carburetors ...

The Good Old Days :rolleyes:

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1 minute ago, SloopJonB said:

All part & parcel.

No-one makes a "bad" car anymore. People who say that shit don't remember what cars were like BITD.

They had way more style or soul than now - but the trouble...

Remember spring & fall tuneups? And that meant parts and real work, not just a checkover.

Bias tires that lasted maybe 20K miles - the spare (remember them) was always used at some point (remember blowouts?).

Drum brakes that were more of a suggestion that real stoppers.

Suspensions that would drag the rocker panel if you tried cornering hard.

Body rust through within 3 to 5 years.

100K miles was the typical life of a car.

Plugs & points, vacuum operated wipers, incandescent headlights, balancing carburetors ...

The Good Old Days :rolleyes:

Sounds like you may even be older than ME! 

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Just now, On The Hard said:

Sounds like you may even be older than ME! 

Got my license in the Summer of Love. :D

That whole list was all cars. Electronic ignitions were almost a decade off, proper digital fuel injection was 20 years off, radial tires were exotic Euro stuff, front disc brakes were a pricey option.

Ain't no rose in the tint of my glasses.

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33 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

All part & parcel.

No-one makes a "bad" car anymore. People who say that shit don't remember what cars were like BITD.

They had way more style or soul than now - but the trouble...

Remember spring & fall tuneups? And that meant parts and real work, not just a checkover.

Bias tires that lasted maybe 20K miles - the spare (remember them) was always used at some point (remember blowouts?).

Drum brakes that were more of a suggestion that real stoppers.

Suspensions that would drag the rocker panel if you tried cornering hard.

Body rust through within 3 to 5 years.

100K miles was the typical life of a car.

Plugs & points, vacuum operated wipers, incandescent headlights, balancing carburetors ...

The Good Old Days :rolleyes:

100%.     My grandpa told me the story of his brother driving him from Cleveland to Florida back in the 1920's.   They went through five spare tires.    That was considered normal.  He remembered, since he was the one buying new tires.   There's a reason the antique roadster at the show has a spare on each running board.   Any less meant you might not make it to the next city.   By the time I was alive he still traded his cars in at 80,000 miles.   For most of his life they were worn out by that time.   Sure the Bonneville could run 2 quarts low on oil and a gallon low on antifreeze, but nobody expected it to flip the odometer more then once even with good maintenance (back when odometers only went up to 99,000 miles because that was plenty).     My Dad had teenage memories of polishing the bumper of the family car (probably an early 50's Chevrolet) when he had permission to borrow it for a hot date.   His hand  went right through the chrome, the steel had rotted away from the inside.   Yea, plastic cars are terrible.     I don't even remember how to set dwell anymore.   The last time I did was on a 1966 Volvo Penta.   I still have the meter if anybody wants one.   A younger guy I know works as a diesel mechanic.   He longs for cars 'made right in the good old days'.   Sure you could change the plugs on a straight six farm truck in the rain.    Just climb under the hood, there was plenty of room next to the engine.   How often did those plugs need changed?    The old guys that taught me to swing a wrench told me to replace belts and hoses every three years or so.   

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1 hour ago, Snaggletooth said:

Ish cane be verrey ecsoterric some tines..............           :)

well, question well met, i mean i' don't know how the Polish off anything really.

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30 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

All part & parcel.

No-one makes a "bad" car anymore. People who say that shit don't remember what cars were like BITD.

They had way more style or soul than now - but the trouble...

Remember spring & fall tuneups? And that meant parts and real work, not just a checkover.

Bias tires that lasted maybe 20K miles - the spare (remember them) was always used at some point (remember blowouts?).

Drum brakes that were more of a suggestion that real stoppers.

Suspensions that would drag the rocker panel like a bikers knee if you tried cornering hard.

Body rust through within 3 to 5 years.

100K miles was the typical life of a car.

Plugs & points, vacuum operated wipers, incandescent headlights, balancing carburetors ...

The Good Old Days :rolleyes:

Many good points, but as to no "bad" cars ... Land Rover?

Tire Mileage?  I remember new tires every year - before Michelin radials in the US

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4 hours ago, On The Hard said:

However, I'm stupidly looking to buy a truck for a 3rd car, and the Tundra is an awesome truck. Will probably buy a 3-4 year old used one and drive it occasionally for the rest of my life

I did exactly that. A 2019 Tacoma (not Tundra) as the third car - for the unfledged kids and for when I need a truck. Wife has a Lincoln luxboat I don't particularly care for, and I've got a Chev Bolt as my DD. (Had free charging at work, work from home kinda killed the $$ gains there)

The Tacoma is astonishingly mediocre. (my third Toyota product) It's ok and all, but just doesn't have any soul, it's too big (all trucks are now), is gutless, drinks too much fuel, etc... It's just OK. Not fun to drive. But there to haul drywall, boat parts, etc.. It replaced a 160K mile 1998 Ford Ranger that was the best vehicle I've ever owned. Small, cheap, easy to drive because it wasn't the size of an aircraft carrier,  got close to 30mpg. Great truck. Just got to the point where I was wrenching too much on it. 

The Bolt, OTOH, is an amazingly good vehicle. Except for the stupid automatic A/C that was programmed by chimps, it's a great car. Zippy as all get out. Nimble, quiet, no rattles, interior is better than I expected from GM. Nowhere near Lincoln, but nowhere near the $$. Better than the Tacoma. And it's a ball to drive. Love not stopping at gas stations. The brakes will never wear out. As close to zero maintenance as possible (first scheduled maint is at 150,000 miles. Change the battery coolant). Get in, push the button, drive. 

Cars are so much better now than they used to be. No points. No carbs.  Heck, no distributor any more. Them newfangled computer controls on the FI actually work really freaking good at improving cold starts, drivability, and fuel economy. I said to myself 20-25 years ago, I will never own nothing with a carburetor except lawn equipment again. Broke that rule for awhile with an A4 powered boat, but I came to my senses.... 

 

I don't really know where the land of not quite right is here, except for a rather old gearhead, I find I really like electric cars... That's not quite right, right? 

 

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4 hours ago, ancientseawolf said:

Many good points, but as to no "bad" cars ... Land Rover?

I've got an old Range Rover HSE with 120K.

The answer is no. A couple of coolant hoses and a split header tank.

Like I said - nobody makes a "bad" car anymore. A fragile cupholder is a major defect nowadays.

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Any one else remember the old Volvo ads that bragged that the Volvo "lasted 11 years in Sweden".  The old cars certainly did not hold up well to the prairie winters.

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6 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Got my license in the Summer of Love. :D

That whole list was all cars. Electronic ignitions were almost a decade off, proper digital fuel injection was 20 years off, radial tires were exotic Euro stuff, front disc brakes were a pricey option.

Ain't no rose in the tint of my glasses.

Got mine the year before. My first car was a '57 Chevy. Last North American car I ever owned. Looked much like this one.

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That colour was Desert Rose wasn't it? ;)

Starting off in a '57 Bel-Air should have made you a loyal Chevy man for decades, if not life.

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7 hours ago, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

please post a pic of your testicles hanging from the mirror... :P

He has to get them from his wife first!

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On 1/10/2021 at 9:14 PM, floating dutchman said:

It's amazing that there are that many boring people in the world that Toyota can sell that many Corollas.

Ding!  

I would have killed to have had the Toyota import market for Kenya though.  When I was there back and forth last year, literally 8/10 cars AND trucks on the road were Toyota.  When you would see the odd Hyundai or Mercedes, they stuck out like sore thumbs in the sea of white Toyota Yaris's and Prados.  

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On 1/12/2021 at 4:13 AM, Ed Lada said:

OK, this is a real photo from the Facebook page of a new pizza place in my town.

Yes, those are Cheetos along with genuine fior di latte mozarella.

I really don't know what else to say about it.

 

Polish Pizza.jpg

Well, other than Poland is fucked up?  Well, you guys are "Trump Lite", so that sorta follows.......

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On 1/12/2021 at 9:46 AM, floating dutchman said:

I'm still puzzled by the fact that some people seem to think that every meal they have needs to be posted on face book.

This^^!!!!!!!  Who the fuck cares what you had to eat for lunch?

 

Edit:  Hence why I do not "facebook".  

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28 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

This^^!!!!!!!  Who the fuck cares what you had to eat for lunch?

 

Edit:  Hence why I do not "facebook".  

Stirring up someone's meal just when they're setting up the shot..... Priceless. 

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7 hours ago, Burning Man said:

Well, other than Poland is fucked up?  Well, you guys are "Trump Lite", so that sorta follows.......

What's your point flyboy?  Yes, the ultra conservative Right wing Polish government is terrible but at least it's only Poland.  They really don't have a lot of influence outside Poland's borders unlike the US.  

Back to the pizza crime, here is a poem they put on FB about their pizza.  

"Nigdzie więcej,

Nie skosztujesz,

Tak wytwornej pizzy,

Więc nie zwlekaj, zapraszamy,

Nie ma lepszej w okolicy!"

And translated into English

′′ Nowhere else,

You won't taste,

Such a refined pizza,

So don't delay, we invite you,

There is no better one around!"

They are certainly right about the "Nowhere else" part.

 

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On 1/12/2021 at 7:13 AM, Ed Lada said:

OK, this is a real photo from the Facebook page of a new pizza place in my town.

Yes, those are Cheetos along with genuine fior di latte mozarella.

I really don't know what else to say about it.

 

Polish Pizza.jpg

Their pizzas are infested with large orange maggots?

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Just now, slap said:

Their pizzas are infested with large orange maggots?

I think orange maggots would be better than Cheetos!  You can explain that maggots happen, so sorry.  Cheetos shows intent and that's disgusting.

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On 1/12/2021 at 4:32 PM, SloopJonB said:

 

Body rust through within 3 to 5 years.

100K miles was the typical life of a car.

Plugs & points, vacuum operated wipers, incandescent headlights, balancing carburetors ...

The Good Old Days :rolleyes:

GM has stretched the "rust through" figure on trucks all the way to 6 years :lol:

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4 hours ago, Ed Lada said:

I think orange maggots would be better than Cheetos!  You can explain that maggots happen, so sorry.  Cheetos shows intent and that's disgusting.

I thought you could only find large orange maggots in Palm Beach.

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Just now, Left Shift said:

I thought you could only find large orange maggots in Palm Beach.

Careful, folks are gonna yell at you!   :lol:  

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On 1/14/2021 at 11:15 PM, VWAP said:

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I bet the police seized a vehicle with a bad heater core.   Now he has to pay to get it back,   

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This video is just so...Swiss.  I don't think anything else would describe it better.  Some of the ladies are really enjoying strutting their stuff.  It takes place in a small town in Switzerland called Zug which means 'train', as in a means of transportation, in German  I have to laugh at the riot gear on some of the police.  Read on to see why.

The funny thing is that I've been to Zug, it's a small town, of about 30,000 people a little south of Zurich.  The thing is that it's the main city of what used to be the poorest canton in Switzerland until some time ago the decided to offer very lucrative business tax rates.  So many big companies from all over the world moved their HQ their to to save a lot of money on taxes.  Now the canton is one of the wealthiest in Switzerland.

How wealthy you ask?  Well we flew from Berlin to Zurich one Saturday morning and then took a train to Zug.  We were attending a very nice wine tasting dinner that evening.  The next day while walking to get some breakfast, mildly hungover, before we went back to Zurich to catch our plane home, we saw a Maserati-Ferrari dealership.  There were at least a dozen new Maseratis out in the front lot, no cover or anything.  In the showroom were 8 new Ferraris of different colors and models.  In a town of 30,000 people.  I've been to Switzerland a few times over many years.  It's just beautiful if you love mountains and money.  I not a terribly big fan of either, particularly mountains.  

 

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8 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

That's not Swiss.

This is Swiss.

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Yeah that too.

Odd little country and just too perfect and orderly for me.  And far too many mountains, they're everywhere!  

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3 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

The fundamental amorality that underpins that country has always bothered me.

Money doesn't have feelings or morals.  It's an inanimate object.  

The Swiss are pretty clever amoral bastards.  They accept anybody's money and that way they are assured that nobody will invade them. It's a great way to protect the country and make money instead of spending billions for their defense.  It's worked for them for many, many years.

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On 1/12/2021 at 7:23 PM, BayRacer said:
On 1/12/2021 at 5:02 PM, SloopJonB said:

They do stuff that weird to pizza in England - or did some years back.

diced potato :wacko:

Egg :wacko:

A lot of people don't seem to recognize the distinction between creativity and stupidity.

Was going to Aberdeen Scotland for work on regular basis a few years back.  Learned to order each topping specifically when, after the second time ordering a "supreme" or some such marketing term, the pizza came with corn kernels on it.  I am in the upper Midwest USA, surrounded by cornfields, and we have never thought to put corn on our pizza.

There's some very strange ideas about pizza in the UK, as you say, if in doubt, order the toppings separately.

Diced potato? WTF

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1 hour ago, Burning Man said:

Jayzus, that's definitely LONQR!

I think it's the flaming bagpipes that make it a standout.

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43 minutes ago, mad said:

I am in the upper Midwest USA, surrounded by cornfields, and we have never thought to put corn on our pizza.

For who knows what reason, corn on pizza is a big thing in Japan and Korea.  I don't know about the rest of Asia.  But all kinds of pizzas there included corn on the pizza.  Just regular old canned corn kernels.  And they normally don't eat much corn in either country!

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10 minutes ago, Ed Lada said:
56 minutes ago, mad said:

I am in the upper Midwest USA, surrounded by cornfields, and we have never thought to put corn on our pizza.

For who knows what reason, corn on pizza is a big thing in Japan and Korea.  I don't know about the rest of Asia.  But all kinds of pizzas there included corn on the pizza.  Just regular old canned corn kernels.  And they normally don't eat much corn in either country!

What happened there??  I don't remember moving:P

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1 hour ago, mad said:

There's some very strange ideas about pizza in the UK, as you say, if in doubt, order the toppings separately.

Diced potato? WTF

Diced potato & fresh arugula pizza, we had one on the menu at the pub back in the day, delicious. Second best selling pie for a long time after people tried it and it took off. New chef with “better” ideas came on board after a couple of years, said fuck that and dropped it from the menu. Still comes up in conversation 10+ years later.

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34 minutes ago, mad said:

What happened there??  I don't remember moving:P

A ripple in the matrix.

Or, I just used the 'quote selection' feature on Bay racer's response to SJBs post and you responded to Bay Racer.  So you got credit for the quote not Bay Racer because that post belonged to you.  Got it?   ^_^

 

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11 minutes ago, Ed Lada said:

A ripple in the matrix.

Or, I just used the 'quote selection' feature on Bay racer's response to SJBs post and you responded to Bay Racer.  So you got credit for the quote not Bay Racer because that post belonged to you.  Got it?   ^_^

 

A ripple in the matrix sounds more entertaining.

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13 hours ago, slap said:

 

More like "Ostrich crapping itself trying to get away from the cyclist/s chasing it"

I've had a few similar instances with roos and emu's here in Oz

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1 hour ago, Ed Lada said:

Probably tired to turn it up to 11 and broke it.

More likely dad had enough of that loud rock and roll and added the limiter when junior was at school..

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44 minutes ago, Foreverslow said:

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More likely dad had enough of that loud rock and roll and added the limiter when junior was at school..

after numerous warnings and so now son you're screwed.

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