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The Canary Island company Fred Olsen Express will incorporate into its fleet the new Bajmar Express and Bajaderos Express, a 117m long trimaran with a capacity of 1,100 PASSENGERS AND 350 LANE METRES FOR TRUCKS AND 100 CAR SPACES. They say that it will be the most modern trimaran in the world.

 

https://www.austal.com/sites/default/files/data-sheet/Auto Express 118 Datasheet.pdf   <-- A lot of information about this ship.

Bajamar Express

Austal Limited shipyards are in charge of building and assembling the entire trimaran, and they seem to be very delicate with their procedures.

El tercer trimarán de Fred. Olsen se construye en Filipinas ...

 

I hope that someday he will transport a multi 50 in his hold.

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if someone lives in Perth (Australia), please send me pictures !!!

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We have a slightly earlier model over here (Condor Liberation). Rolls like an absolute pig in anything other than millpond flat water, far worse than the fast cats we also have on the same routes.

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g186230-i489-k8532155-Is_travel_on_Condor_Liberation_as_bad_as_people_are_saying-Jersey_Channel_Islands.html

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190727-d4232261-r304279273-Condor_Ferries_Day_Trips-Poole_Dorset_England.html

There are also issues with waves coming over the front and crashing over cars parked under the bloody great hole in the deck:

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Shame really, as the saloon at the front has a superb 180 degree view, but people actively avoid sailing on her if there's another vessel sailing on the same day.

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3 hours ago, bissona said:

We have a slightly earlier model over here (Condor Liberation). Rolls like an absolute pig in anything other than millpond flat water, far worse than the fast cats we also have on the same routes.

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g186230-i489-k8532155-Is_travel_on_Condor_Liberation_as_bad_as_people_are_saying-Jersey_Channel_Islands.html

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190727-d4232261-r304279273-Condor_Ferries_Day_Trips-Poole_Dorset_England.html

There are also issues with waves coming over the front and crashing over cars parked under the bloody great hole in the deck:

image.png.98990112f8413c902471c0026f028fba.png

Shame really, as the saloon at the front has a superb 180 degree view, but people actively avoid sailing on her if there's another vessel sailing on the same day.

That really is a damn big hole in the deck.

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Sounds like she needs a little more beam and/or more float in the amas.

"In anything but a millpond" suggests some kind of harmonic cycling.

The newer vessel looks very similar.

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10 hours ago, bissona said:

We have a slightly earlier model over here (Condor Liberation). Rolls like an absolute pig in anything other than millpond flat water, far worse than the fast cats we also have on the same routes.

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g186230-i489-k8532155-Is_travel_on_Condor_Liberation_as_bad_as_people_are_saying-Jersey_Channel_Islands.html

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190727-d4232261-r304279273-Condor_Ferries_Day_Trips-Poole_Dorset_England.html

There are also issues with waves coming over the front and crashing over cars parked under the bloody great hole in the deck:

image.png.98990112f8413c902471c0026f028fba.png

Shame really, as the saloon at the front has a superb 180 degree view, but people actively avoid sailing on her if there's another vessel sailing on the same day.

Here in the Canary Islands we already have a tirmaran, older than that. El mal tiempo obliga a los pasajeros del Benchijigua Express a ...

Here, in the Canary Islands, we have a lot of cats in all inter-islands routes. Here, the waves leaving the coast are always more than two meters reaching extreme waves for fast-ferries. You could say that the canaries are already used to these weather conditions, seeing these conditions more than once a year:

 

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On 4/6/2020 at 11:38 AM, djh said:

Does either craft have active stabilisers?

Yes, look at the video:

 

(a lauch too careful in my opinion)

 

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On 4/6/2020 at 6:19 PM, bissona said:

We have a slightly earlier model over here (Condor Liberation). Rolls like an absolute pig in anything other than millpond flat water, far worse than the fast cats we also have on the same routes.

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g186230-i489-k8532155-Is_travel_on_Condor_Liberation_as_bad_as_people_are_saying-Jersey_Channel_Islands.html

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g190727-d4232261-r304279273-Condor_Ferries_Day_Trips-Poole_Dorset_England.html

There are also issues with waves coming over the front and crashing over cars parked under the bloody great hole in the deck:

image.png.98990112f8413c902471c0026f028fba.png

Shame really, as the saloon at the front has a superb 180 degree view, but people actively avoid sailing on her if there's another vessel sailing on the same day.

The fact the Fred.Olsen has been running the first one for about 15 years along side a float of "conventional" cats and has ordered 2 more suggests they are pretty happy with the first one.

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On 4/7/2020 at 4:35 AM, PabloFoil said:

Here in the Canary Islands we already have a tirmaran, older than that. El mal tiempo obliga a los pasajeros del Benchijigua Express a ...

Here, in the Canary Islands, we have a lot of cats in all inter-islands routes. Here, the waves leaving the coast are always more than two meters reaching extreme waves for fast-ferries. You could say that the canaries are already used to these weather conditions, seeing these conditions more than once a year:

 

middle one there is a very different boat.  That's an Incat 96m wave piercer catamaran

 

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On 4/8/2020 at 4:10 AM, SCARECROW said:

 

The fact the Fred.Olsen has been running the first one for about 15 years along side a float of "conventional" cats and has ordered 2 more suggests they are pretty happy with the first one.

My understanding is that they're very different hulls, especially the volume balance between centre and outer hulls, with very different sea-handling characteristics. Apparently the only sister ship to Liberation was a hull that went to the US Navy, and Liberation spend four year on dockside before she was 'sold' within the Macquarie Group to Condor....

I'm sure Austal make lots of great boats, but not all of their boats are great.

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its mainly about having the right boat for a given sea state and wave pattern.  It is the same reason that despite multiple attempts neither Austal or Incat have been able to make a cat work on the Bass or Cook straights. 

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Bass straight yes.  Cook strait (between north and south NZ island) is a funny one.  Beam sea at start/end of passage but head/tail sea during voyage.  Nothing beats size and mass in that situation.

 

 

 

 

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