Will Dick DeVos financial support of political insurrection change your spending habits?

[NoStrings 17]

The owner of Quantum sails is the major funding source behind the anti government protests in Michigan and Wisconsin. His interests are clearly political. Do his choices impact how you decide to spend your cash? And I’m talking sails, I doubt that many of you are on the Amway guest list.

[jackolantern 597]

I was already vehemently anti-Quantum before this. What with the buyout of the Department of Education, the impact of their endorsement of trickle-down economics on the Reagan administration, and the millions of lives they've ruined. At best, Quantum Sails is a tax play that writes off losses inherent in the marine industry against their Amway income. At worst, its a way of trying to fleece people in the sailing industry in the same way they fleece economically insecure Midwestern housewives.

Their business model basically requires interpersonal interaction. Of course that's suffering from social distancing, and of course they're funding locals to do the "patriotic" thing and protest against it. They can't afford all of their motoryachts and planes if women trying to support their household income aren't hosting recruitment parties or attending pay-your-own-way conferences where "successful executives" tell them that the problem with their failing businesses is they aren't investing enough of their own money in the product and that what they really need is a garage full of overpriced supplements and household items. Listen to "The Dream" podcast series for 5 hours of documenting how MLM schemes ruin lives. 

[Fiji Bitter 1,973]

Article in the Guardian about it:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/18/coronavirus-americans-protest-stay-at-home

Frightening. I will resist going into the conservative and religious Dutch ancestry of the De Vos family, but it relates to anti-abortion, anti-vac, and not allowing you to mowe your lawn on Sunday's. And much more...

 

[Not My Real Name 3,591]

No.

I bought my last Quantum sail in 2012 or so, and I've since learned who owns them and refuse to put any money into Betsy's coffers.

I'd feel bad if I was in RI still, as I really, really liked my local loft and sailmaker. That may have over ridden my choices if I was still local as I wouldn't want to punish an individual loft owner who had given me years of great service. It certainly would have made for some hard choices.

But buying sails away from there? No, Quantum was not on the list when I bought a main two years ago. Hood will not be on the list next time - it seems I need to check the industry news before  I make any more sail purchases. Though that seems unlikely, given I am trying to sell my boat.

[Miffy 2,144]

The DeVos and whatever Eric prince’s new corporate entity is called now have been POS before 45 and will continue to be POS after 45. 

[fastyacht 2,598]

4 hours ago, B.J. Porter said:

No.

I bought my last Quantum sail in 2012 or so, and I've since learned who owns them and refuse to put any money into Betsy's coffers.

I'd feel bad if I was in RI still, as I really, really liked my local loft and sailmaker. That may have over ridden my choices if I was still local as I wouldn't want to punish an individual loft owner who had given me years of great service. It certainly would have made for some hard choices.

But buying sails away from there? No, Quantum was not on the list when I bought a main two years ago. Hood will not be on the list next time - it seems I need to check the industry news before  I make any more sail purchases. Though that seems unlikely, given I am trying to sell my boat.

My favourite loft has always been Linthicum Sailmakers along with Kappa but the latter are gone sadly. Linthicum going strong..

 

[Not for nothing 489]

always brought my sails from Mark , shore/doyle now OneSails North Atlantic.

always a stand up guy,

Dick "Quantum" Devos your wife Can't Understand Normal Thinking,

don't buy there sails

[ExOmo 177]

He's just trying to make America great again...

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Varan said:

Fuck you Dick!

That dick is doing the fucking

 

 

[Varan 2,134]

Now that is funny. Thanks!

[mad 3,970]

Surprised that Quantum haven’t ended up on @Editor the front page yet for this? 

[jackolantern 597]

@mad that’s because they’re a current or future sponsor 

[mad 3,970]

38 minutes ago, jackolantern said:

@mad that’s because they’re a current or future sponsor 

As I don’t go to the front page and have Adblock on, this is something I don’t notice.

[Varan 2,134]

Front page?

[jackolantern 597]

1 hour ago, mad said:

As I don’t go to the front page and have Adblock on, this is something I don’t notice.

It was an educated guess, I also use adblock. But they've sponsored J/Boat anarchy in the past 

[mad 3,970]

37 minutes ago, Varan said:

Front page?

It’s there.....................allegedly 

[zenmasterfred 565]

Fucking small brained wipers of other people's bottoms I say.  The DeVos politics make me crazy, ironic they are vying to represent the USA in America's Cup.

[hrothgar 137]

On 4/18/2020 at 4:54 PM, B.J. Porter said:

I'd feel bad if I was in RI still, as I really, really liked my local loft and sailmaker. That may have over ridden my choices if I was still local as I wouldn't want to punish an individual loft owner who had given me years of great service. It certainly would have made for some hard choices.

Interesting.  My guy just switched to the Green Q from the Blue circle.  I am planning to stick with him.  Local service and attention is what is important in sails, sail making and purchases.  Not politics.

Hroth

[Not My Real Name 3,591]

5 hours ago, hrothgar said:

Interesting.  My guy just switched to the Green Q from the Blue circle.  I am planning to stick with him.  Local service and attention is what is important in sails, sail making and purchases.  Not politics.

Hroth

Yes and no. I would have had to think long and hard about it had I stayed local, and I would have felt terrible if I switched because I like the owner of the local loft. But he did choose the affiliation.

There were a lot of sailmakers were I used to sail, and I would have been just as long term happy with the one that rented space from my yacht club run by a guy I knew and liked as the one on the other side of the state. If I used him I could have brought my sails in for storage, cleaning and repair with a dock cart instead of making a 45 minute drive.

There's a reason I won't eat at Chick-Fil-A, either.

[NeedAClew 1,786]

Another reason why I hope Ineos wins Prada Cup.  At least the frackers aren't getting morons with guns spitting on each other in the streets. I don't eat Papa John's, Chick Fil A or go to Hobby Lobby.  And I watch which businesses in places I vacation stay open despite lockdowns and plan not to patronize them. And as if LE was not bad enough before this year, the Trumpy Porky fundraiser and chloroquinine thing (not sure if LE gets credit for injecting disinfectant, but it was used for diy abortions before 1972, with often fatal results) now I can never go to Lanai.

[Svanen 385]

On 4/29/2020 at 3:32 PM, B.J. Porter said:

There's a reason I won't eat at Chick-Fil-A, either.

Absolutely. It’s on the list with Cracker Barrel, Waffle House, et al.

Counter-productive to give your money to racists, homophobes, and other right-wing nut jobs.

[mark washeim 5]

I'm pretty sure the DeVos $ was behind the purchase of Doyle.  The nearly followed directly in the Quantum rollup footsteps. There's a great deal of physical evidence that suggests it.