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We need a daily reminder. The names of “people Trump killed today” should be read aloud every day on Radio and TV. 

89,420.  Dead Americans So far 
+1,231  Were killed Saturday
 
 
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Peter Navarro on the news-talk this morning.

"China Virus" every other sentence. Said that China "sent" people here to spread it. Then talked about how "Trump's Agenda" was to help the working class.

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2 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

Peter Navarro on the news-talk this morning.

"China Virus" every other sentence. Said that China "sent" people here to spread it. Then talked about how "Trump's Agenda" was to help the working class.

- DSK

 

Never heard of Peter Navarro?  What right wing media tool is he from?

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1 minute ago, billy backstay said:

 

Never heard of Peter Navarro?  What right wing media tool is he from?

The kind that gushes thanks to Trump's incredible business acumen the US has done a perfect job getting all the necessary supplies for the pandemic. 

Sycophant 1st Class.

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Remember back during the Iranian hostage crisis? Ted Koppel hosted a late night TV news program that became known as “Nightline.”  He began every program with “day number xxx of America held hostage.” Can always reprise something like that.  Trump would go ballistic

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Trump has now killed more people in the  USA than the total of all of us who have ever posted on Sailing Anarchy 

Saturday he was killing people at the rate of almost one per minute. 

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1 minute ago, Gouvernail said:

Trump has now killed more people in the  USA than the total of all of us who have ever posted on Sailing Anarchy 

Saturday he was killing people at the rate of almost one per minute. 

Just curious - what would you have done differently? 

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34 minutes ago, d'ranger said:
37 minutes ago, billy backstay said:

Never heard of Peter Navarro?  What right wing media tool is he from?

The kind that gushes thanks to Trump's incredible business acumen the US has done a perfect job getting all the necessary supplies for the pandemic. 

Sycophant 1st Class.

The funny thing is, 3/4 of what he said was fantasy-land bullshit, and the interviewer called him on it exactly twice. Of course, you can't have a serious news show where you interrupt the guest every 12 seconds to say "that's a fuckin' lie" so maybe the answer is to put a fact-check-o-meter on the screen behind them.

He talked about the firing of Dr Bright, basically saying that they offered to put him in charge of a multi-billion dollar medical project but "he made his own choice to not support the Trump agenda." Same comment he made about the Inspector General(s) that have been fired, they should support the Trump Agenda.

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Good comparison to the Iranian hostage crisis.
 

While the media kept track of days they never blamed President Carter for the Iranian actions.  

Jump forward 40 years and the left are blaming President Trump for something that originated in China and was spread around the world while China and the WHO denied that it was a threat. 
 

  I wonder if the Italians, the Spanish and other countries with high death tolls are laying those deaths directly on their leaders or us it simply TDS as usual among the lefties?  

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10 minutes ago, Gone Drinking said:

Just curious - what would you have done differently? 

Just curious, why would an honest businessman fire his auditor? Why would an honest government official fire an inspector-general?

As for handling the pandemic, several things could make a big big difference. 1- not throw out the pandemic playbook or ignore the briefing from the prior administration.

2- not fire the CDC's pandemic experts

3- when the time comes for a travel ban, enact one that actually works and follow up with effective isolation measures.

4- devote more resources to testing & tracking, early on

5- not encourage pinheads with guns to protest Democrat governors attempts to protect the people of their states

- DSK

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3 minutes ago, inneedofadvice said:

Basically the opposite of every single thing trump has done would be a good start 

So you would not have banned any travel.  Would not have initiated a defense act requiring GM and others to start producing ventilators and PPE   No social distancing. No support of the states.   Do not sent hospital ships,  no guided phases to open up.  You would not have signed the trillions in relief.  Forget about Fauci and the others.  No task force.  
Would not have organized rapid testing would not have relaxed FDA regulations to allow quicker use of alternate treatments.  Would not have boosted testing to the millions tested.  Should I go on... 
 

I mean the opposite of everything right?

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50 minutes ago, billy backstay said:

 

Never heard of Peter Navarro?  What right wing media tool is he from?

Sorry, didn't see the question.

He's one of the President's economic advisors but apparently he's become the go-to CoviD-19 guy. Originally he was supposed to be helping negotiate beautiful trade deals with China but now he apparently doesn't like them, and is saying everything he can to blame them for the virus, oh and by the way, they don't honor all those beautiful trade deals we tried to make with them.

So basically, he's another grafting pinhead liar-for-Trump

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Or actually banned travel in a meaningful way, not torn up any previous administrations groundwork on this very issue, used the initial two months of warning time to prepare for what a blind person could see was coming instead of putting my head in the sand and denying anything was happening.  

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6 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

Just curious, why would an honest businessman fire his auditor? Why would an honest government official fire an inspector-general?

As for handling the pandemic, several things could make a big big difference. 1- not throw out the pandemic playbook or ignore the briefing from the prior administration.

2- not fire the CDC's pandemic experts

3- when the time comes for a travel ban, enact one that actually works and follow up with effective isolation measures.

4- devote more resources to testing & tracking, early on

5- not encourage pinheads with guns to protest Democrat governors attempts to protect the people of their states

- DSK

You are proof that a lie told over and over becomes reality to the truly partisan.  

Your #1 and # 2 have been debunked multiple times by Fact check  


As to # 3. The time came and the left called the president a racist and xenophobic 

#4 Again ignore the fact the CDC rolled out a defective kit early on.  That was a huge setback

#5.  Has zero to do with handling the pandemic.  

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6 minutes ago, inneedofadvice said:

Or actually banned travel in a meaningful way, not torn up any previous administrations groundwork on this very issue, used the initial two months of warning time to prepare for what a blind person could see was coming instead of putting my head in the sand and denying anything was happening.  

What two months of warning time? In fucking March the Dems were still encouraging social gathering and mocking his efforts. 

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28 minutes ago, Gone Drinking said:

Just curious - what would you have done differently? 

1. I would have called the Pandemic Response team into action when the first intelligence reports suggested one might possibly be starting in China

2. I would have informed the citizens about the measures being taken in China and suggested our free citizens take it upon themselves to do a better job of protecting themselves than those who were being forced by a government. 
3. As each attempted control was apparently failing, I would have taken immediate action to try something more rather than wasting time fabricating denials. 
 

beyond application of an initial  scientifically driven approach, it is impossible to say what else would have been appropriate or necessary. 

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2 minutes ago, Gouvernail said:

1. I would have called the Pandemic Response team into action when the first intelligence reports suggested one might possibly be starting in China

 

It was way back in November when we were first warned.  I still don't understand why the Medical community didn't respond, in spite of Trump's ignorance??

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Joker complains about talking points while repeating talking points. YCMTSU.  If only all the Democrats had been invited to those briefings that Trump mostly didn't attend and ignored those that he did.

It never ends well for the rest of us.

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13 minutes ago, The Joker said:

You are proof that a lie told over and over becomes reality to the truly partisan.  

Your #1 and # 2 have been debunked multiple times by Fact check  


As to # 3. The time came and the left called the president a racist and xenophobic 

#4 Again ignore the fact the CDC rolled out a defective kit early on.  That was a huge setback

#5.  Has zero to do with handling the pandemic.  

Good job slinging bullshit.

Google "Pandemic Team Trump Fire"

" ... Beth Cameron, former Senior Director for Global Health Security and Biodefense in the NSC, wrote, “When President Trump took office in 2017, the White House’s National Security Council Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense survived the transition intact.

“Its mission was the same as when I was asked to lead the office, established after the Ebola epidemic of 2014: to do everything possible within the vast powers and resources of the U.S. government to prepare for the next disease outbreak and prevent it from becoming an epidemic or pandemic. One year later, I was mystified when the White House dissolved the office, leaving the country less prepared for pandemics like covid-19”"

So, that's just #1.... what I said was true, Trump fired all those Deep State big-brain guys & gals who are working behind the scenes... back when he did it, people like you cheered, that's what you elected him for! Who knew that science would be more useful than bullshit, when the real world starts giving you problems?

As for the rest, it's just as much bullshit. Keep slinging, it will work about as well.

- DSK

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10 minutes ago, The Joker said:
16 minutes ago, Dog said:

"Two Coasts. One Virus. How New York Suffered Nearly 10 Times the Number of Deaths as California".

https://www.propublica.org/article/two-coasts-one-virus-how-new-york-suffered-nearly-10-times-the-number-of-deaths-as-california

Good read. 

Wait, I thought you said Nancy Pelosi was urging her followers to their deaths, and California was just a socialist hell-hole? Now, a responsive gov't that uses science is good?

Could you & Dog make up your tiny little minds?

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17 minutes ago, The Joker said:

You are proof that a lie told over and over becomes reality to the truly partisan.  

Your #1 and # 2 have been debunked multiple times by Fact check  


As to # 3. The time came and the left called the president a racist and xenophobic 

#4 Again ignore the fact the CDC rolled out a defective kit early on.  That was a huge setback

#5.  Has zero to do with handling the pandemic.  

Here’s the deal Joker. Your lies above aside, it’s called leadership. Look at countries with good leadership, less dead/million. Period.

 

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Wait, I thought you said Nancy Pelosi was urging her followers to their deaths, and California was just a socialist hell-hole? Now, a responsive gov't that uses science is good?

Could you & Dog make up your tiny little minds?

- DSK

I thought the west coast was liberals, panicking?

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31 minutes ago, The Joker said:

blaming President Trump for something that originated in China and was spread around the world
 

  

China had ZERO warning sand reacted

Trump’s government DENIED the warnings and did not react for months

the per capita Death toll in the USA is 48000% that of China!!!

China,with ZERO WARNING has had under 4700 deaths 

The Trump Administration with two months warning before the first documented death has killed 90,000 of our citizens!!!

Why the hell is ANYONE excusing they blatant deliberate avoidance of action?? 

 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Gouvernail said:

China had ZERO warning sand reacted

Trump’s government DENIED the warnings and did not react for months

the per capita Death toll in the USA is 48000% that of China!!!

China,with ZERO WARNING has had under 4700 deaths 

The Trump Administration with two months warning before the first documented death has killed 90,000 of our citizens!!!

Why the hell is ANYONE excusing they blatant deliberate avoidance of action?? 

 

 

 

you actually believe anything that comes out of China?

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1 minute ago, Gone Drinking said:

you actually believe anything that comes out of China?

Is anyone contesting the Chinese death statistics?

If so, what are the credentials of those doing the contesting and  what death toll are they presenting as the truth? 
 

Is anyone, other than the deranged murderer in chief, claiming the US response is better and has allowed fewer deaths than the response organized by the Chinese government??
 

Are there huge numbers of Chinese citizens protesting the government’s attempts to save people from the virus??

 

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26 minutes ago, Gone Drinking said:

you actually believe anything that comes out of China?

Most countries in the west really started taking it seriously after it hit Italy and Spain. Those on the tourist circuit with them were badly affected too before they could ramp up much.

The countries with leaders who took it seriously have done much better than the USA and UK. The leaders of both these countries downplayed the threat, gave false assurances and worst of all did not focus the vast resources of their governments on the problem instead sometimes actively hampering the response. 

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200 US citizens have been killed by a Trump’s inept response since I posted this thread. In fact, the odds are good somebody in the USA has died from Covid 19 since you clicked to open this thread. 
The economy?? How much extra money must we promise you will make in exchange for exterminating your mother??

 

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4 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Peter Navarro on the news-talk this morning.

"China Virus" every other sentence. Said that China "sent" people here to spread it. Then talked about how "Trump's Agenda" was to help the working class.

- DSK

So after 3 years of China bashing, tRump let’s the Chinaman AIDS into our country to kill 90,000 Americans. And the Trumpaloons see this as “winning “? 

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40 minutes ago, Remodel said:

1.47 million cases and nearly 90,000 deaths caused by the Trump virus.

We're number 1!

Over 1.5MM and over 90,000.

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1 hour ago, Al Paca said:
5 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Peter Navarro on the news-talk this morning.

"China Virus" every other sentence. Said that China "sent" people here to spread it. ...

 

So after 3 years of China bashing, tRump let’s the Chinaman AIDS into our country to kill 90,000 Americans. And the Trumpaloons see this as “winning “? 

Yes, affirmative, and yes.

It's not just unfair, it's SO-O unfair!

- DSK

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6 hours ago, Gouvernail said:

89,420.  Dead Americans So far 

 

Reminder: It would only be 89,405 if the Dems had not whinged about banning that cruise ship.

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7 hours ago, Gouvernail said:

We need a daily reminder. The names of “people Trump killed today” should be read aloud every day on Radio and TV. 

89,420.  Dead Americans So far 
+1,231  Were killed Saturday
 
 

Gouv is Adam Shiff?  

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8 hours ago, The Joker said:

TDS as usual among the lefties?  

silly sausage .. the left don't deny trump is an incompetent pathological liar

most of the right don't either

it's just the trumpty dumpties that have TDS

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3 hours ago, El Boracho said:

Reminder: It would only be 89,405 if the Dems had not whinged about banning that cruise ship.

Reminder it would be thousands less if the mayor of New York had reacted the same as the Mayor of San Fran.  It would be additionally  thousands less if the Governor of N.Y. had not forced nursing homes to take in COVID patients without providing PPE. 

 

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its really good and consistent in this administration  ( many would say perfect )

no matter

what it was

or when it was

or who it was

it's never dumps fault

 

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3 hours ago, El Boracho said:

Reminder: It would only be 89,405 if the Dems had not whinged about banning that cruise ship.

Hard to keep up....

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On target for 110,000 by June 1st. 

I think I'll just head down to my favorite pub.

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7 minutes ago, phill_nz said:

its really good and consistent in this administration  ( many would say perfect )

no matter

what it was

or when it was

or who it was

it's never dumps fault

 

Nope he certainly made mistakes.  Considering how most western nations dealt with this I do not think he did anything dramatically wrong or more importantly any different than a president Bush Clinton GW or Obama would have reacted.  
 

In fact after dealing with SARS and Swine Flu. GW  and Obama May have underestimated it even worse. 

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10 minutes ago, The Joker said:

Nope he certainly made mistakes.  Considering how most western nations dealt with this I do not think he did anything dramatically wrong or more importantly any different than a president Bush Clinton GW or Obama would have reacted.  
 

In fact after dealing with SARS and Swine Flu. GW  and Obama May have underestimated it even worse. 

You don’t deserve to get paid for that post Tovarisch.....

Trump dismantled everything that Bush and Obama put in place.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/17/the-art-of-the-pandemic-how-donald-trump-walked-the-u-s-into-the-covid-19-era/

Still waiting for your handlers’ recipe for an authentic Borscht soup...... with or without blinis and sour cream?

 

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5 minutes ago, Sidecar said:

You don’t deserve to get paid for that post Tovarisch.....

Trump dismantled everything that Bush and Obama put in place.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/17/the-art-of-the-pandemic-how-donald-trump-walked-the-u-s-into-the-covid-19-era/

Still waiting for your handlers’ recipe for an authentic Borscht soup......

 

Yes comrade,  You clearly are locked into that long reputed (by the WAPO, no less). talking point.  
 Za Vsterchu!
 on your  work tearing the US apart with your hatred.  

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Just now, The Joker said:

on your  work tearing the US apart with your hatred.  

LOL

there is only one sub set of one party thats doing that .. the TDS crowd aka trumpty dumpties

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11 minutes ago, The Joker said:

Yes comrade,  You clearly are locked into that long reputed (by the WAPO, no less). talking point.  
 Za Vsterchu!
 on your  work tearing the US apart with your hatred.  

super duper buddy.

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43 minutes ago, Left Shift said:

Hard to keep up....

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On target for 110,000 by June 1st. 

I think I'll just head down to my favorite pub.

Cerveza por favor

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1 minute ago, Cal20sailor said:

super duper buddy.

Ok I’ll concede that made me cringe.  
 

Although I had a very successful friend who passed away, that routinely would tell people, from waiters to clerks “have a super duper day.”   

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21 minutes ago, The Joker said:

Yes comrade,  You clearly are locked into that long reputed (by the WAPO, no less). talking point.  
 Za Vsterchu!
 on your  work tearing the US apart with your hatred.  

Tovarisch, it is your corruption of the truth which is tearing the US apart with your hatred. And you get paid for it.

Where is the Borscht recipe?

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3 hours ago, Sidecar said:

Tovarisch, it is your corruption of the truth which is tearing the US apart with your hatred. And you get paid for it.

Where is the Borscht recipe?

Sorry I don't hate anyone certainly not based on their political views.  
I’d  love to see you copy one post of mine that talks about hating anyone.  Certainly not in the way posters on the left regularly attack me.  Not that I get offended or anything. 

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4 hours ago, The Joker said:

Reminder it would be thousands less if the mayor of New York had reacted the same as the Mayor of San Fran.  It would be additionally  thousands less if the Governor of N.Y. had not forced nursing homes to take in COVID patients without providing PPE. 

 

YEP!   Unfortunately that’s what happens when governments decide who lives and who dies.  But hind sight is always 20-20 and all we heard about were the millions that were going to die.   So decisions were made.   
 

I am surprised the homeless weren’t wiped out completely.  According to posts on this thread they should all be gone.  Most likely they all have it.

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13 hours ago, Gone Drinking said:

Just curious - what would you have done differently? 

Told the truth

 

 

12 hours ago, Gone Drinking said:

you actually believe anything that comes out of China?

I believe there is a virus out of China.

If only I could work out how it got past those responsible for maintaining the security of the federal borders.

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48 minutes ago, The Joker said:

I’d  love to see you copy one post of mine that talks about hating anyone.  Certainly not in the way posters on the left regularly attack me.

i doubt they hate you

they just get so frustrated that you cannot see what is and always has been

and is so obvious .. he doesn't even hide it well

he hasn't changed .. ever

he has been a lying con man all his life

 

he is not a good person

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45 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Told the truth

 

 

I believe there is a virus out of China.

If only I could work out how it got past those responsible for maintaining the security of the federal borders.

So you have nothin...

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47 minutes ago, phill_nz said:

i doubt they hate you

they just get so frustrated that you cannot see what is and always has been

and is so obvious .. he doesn't even hide it well

he hasn't changed .. ever

he has been a lying con man all his life

 

he is not a good person

Where have I denied any of that?  I wouldn’t use conman  I think he is more of the  ultimate showman. A modern day B T BARNUM.  He is sharing a vision of America that many feel is a better path than the great society pushed by the left.  The left call will call it racist, yet while small he got more African American votes than most Republicans.   He is a complete ass and acts like a petulant child, his marriage vows and actions are not something I endorse, but he is appointing judges that share my and millions of American values.  He built up the economy and certainly has put the country on stronger footing with trade agreements.  
Again I understand how some absulutly hate the same actions most business people support.
  Here is one glaring difference between myself and many on the left.  I can honestly live with a Joe Biden as president.  Just as I fully was prepared to live with a president Hillary.   We already saw the vitriol and anger when Hillary lost.   It will be 10 times worse if he wins again. 

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52 minutes ago, The Joker said:

Where have I denied any of that?  I wouldn’t use conman  I think he is more of the  ultimate showman. A modern day B T BARNUM.

it wasn't up for interpretation  ( don't prove your TDS  )

the term ... conman ... meant .. conman

pre political .. pre tv

conman .. always has been always will be

 

the closest he gets to p t barnum is  buffoon .. but thats a personality trait of little relevance to the rest of his failures

 

 

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1 hour ago, phill_nz said:

it wasn't up for interpretation  ( don't prove your TDS  )

the term ... conman ... meant .. conman

pre political .. pre tv

conman .. always has been always will be

 

the closest he gets to p t barnum is  buffoon .. but thats a personality trait of little relevance to the rest of his failures

 

 

Why do you keep misusing ‘TDS’v

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2 minutes ago, Rok Dog said:

Why do you keep misusing ‘TDS’

trump denial syndrome ?

it means you keep denying what trump really is ( shortform involves words like psychopath and narcissist )

what could simpler

really .. have they sucked you into thinking its something else

have they been laughing at you behind your back again

silly sausage .. don't let them do that

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5 minutes ago, phill_nz said:

trump denial syndrome ?

it means you keep denying what trump really is ( shortform involves words like psychopath and narcissist )

what could simpler

really .. have they sucked you into thinking its something else

have they been laughing at you behind your back again

silly sausage .. don't let them do that

You have TDS.  

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2 minutes ago, Rok Dog said:

You have TDS.  

me .. of course not silly sausage

i haven't denied he is a narcissistic psychopath ever .. i do generalize it down to conman at times .. but hey you can colour me guilty for that

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16 hours ago, Gone Drinking said:

you actually believe anything that comes out of China?

More than I believe what Trump says.

 

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2 hours ago, The Joker said:

He is sharing a vision of America that many feel is a better path than the great society pushed by the left

 

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19 hours ago, Gouvernail said:

We need a daily reminder. The names of “people Trump killed today” should be read aloud every day on Radio and TV. 

Coronavirus concerns: Speaker Pelosi tours San Francisco's Chinatown to show it's safe

By David Louie

Tuesday, February 25, 2020

SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi made a point of taking a walk through San Francisco's Chinatown on Monday to show that it is safe, after some merchants have seen a 50% drop in business as some fear they could be exposed to the coronavirus.

As her visit began, a large portion of Chinatown had lost power. That didn't deter the Speaker from walking along Ross Alley and Grant Avenue.

"I'm here," she said. "We feel safe and sound with so many of us coming here. 

"I trust Dr. Fauci at the National Institutes of Health, and he seems to have confidence in what we are doing," she said.

The Speaker says there's no reason for people to live in fear. 

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1 hour ago, Venom said:

Coronavirus concerns: Speaker Pelosi tours San Francisco's Chinatown to show it's safe

By David Louie

Tuesday, February 25, 2020

SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi made a point of taking a walk through San Francisco's Chinatown on Monday to show that it is safe, after some merchants have seen a 50% drop in business as some fear they could be exposed to the coronavirus.

As her visit began, a large portion of Chinatown had lost power. That didn't deter the Speaker from walking along Ross Alley and Grant Avenue.

"I'm here," she said. "We feel safe and sound with so many of us coming here. 

"I trust Dr. Fauci at the National Institutes of Health, and he seems to have confidence in what we are doing," she said.

The Speaker says there's no reason for people to live in fear. 

RS41558_016_KQED_NancyPelosi_Chinatown_0

Did Pelosi get infected?

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1 hour ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Did Pelosi get infected?

Not that I know of but she said it was safe and I don't see her wearing a mask and Dr. Fauci at the National Institutes of Health, seemed to have confidence in what she was doing. Should they be allowed to open back up for business?  

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do you mean she was acting as stupid and ignorant of the true facts then ( feb  ~ <10 cases  0 deaths  )

as

trump is doing now ? ( may > 1,500, 000 cases  > 90,000 deaths  )

 

ps ... we have learned a lot since february

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3 minutes ago, phill_nz said:

do you mean she was acting as stupid and ignorant of the true facts then ( feb  ~ <10cases )

as

trump is doing now ? ( may > 1,500, 000 cases )

 

ps ... we have learned a lot since february

That was on the 25th and besides I'm not blaming Pelosi! She's a politician, she was playing the race card at the time, this is the way the game is played and it’s an election year for fucks sake! I try to take everything with a grain of salt. 

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31 minutes ago, Venom said:

Not that I know of but she said it was safe and I don't see her wearing a mask and Dr. Fauci at the National Institutes of Health, seemed to have confidence in what she was doing. Should they be allowed to open back up for business?  

Nancy or Fauci?

 

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18 minutes ago, Venom said:

That was on the 25th and besides I'm not blaming Pelosi! She's a politician, she was playing the race card at the time, this is the way the game is played and it’s an election year for fucks sake! I try to take everything with a grain of salt. 

Quick question: How many presidential briefings did she attend? You know, the ones for the administration, the ones that Trump mostly doesn't bother to attend? The ones that were warning the US about the virus?  Thanks, asking for a friend.

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7 hours ago, The Joker said:

Where have I denied any of that?  I wouldn’t use conman  I think he is more of the  ultimate showman. A modern day B T BARNUM.  He is sharing a vision of America that many feel is a better path than the great society pushed by the left.  The left call will call it racist, yet while small he got more African American votes than most Republicans.   He is a complete ass and acts like a petulant child, his marriage vows and actions are not something I endorse, but he is appointing judges that share my and millions of American values.  He built up the economy and certainly has put the country on stronger footing with trade agreements.  
Again I understand how some absulutly hate the same actions most business people support.
  Here is one glaring difference between myself and many on the left.  I can honestly live with a Joe Biden as president.  Just as I fully was prepared to live with a president Hillary.   We already saw the vitriol and anger when Hillary lost.   It will be 10 times worse if he wins again. 

He didn’t build an economy at all. He inherited a roaring economy and then since has done nothing but remove hard nailed but necessary environmental and business restrictions to any dopey cunt that asked him while stroking his ego whilst spending the farm out from under your kids. 
The concept of a (political) administration picking judges is so fucking insane It’s not worth discussing anything further on that matter. 
He has done the exact opposite to your claim of improving trade deals. You need to get out more, there is zero, I mean zero countries that want anything to do with the US, all because of your leader. You’ve ripped up and reneged on treaties, insulted every ally,  removed the US from EVERY global org going around.

And you think this is his high points. 
Fuck me. 

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7 hours ago, The Joker said:

 I wouldn’t use conman  

Yet you are being conned.  That is hilarious. Even now, Trump is passing every buck he can.  The thread is " Trump's Deaths" and now wants us to believe it is the CDC who is at fault.  Somehow it's also Obama's fault.  Yet Trump is the fucking POTUS!

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Bottom line, If he'd got the governors to lock down wherever there was a single case, back when even WHO declared a pandemic. no where near 92,000 people would have died. That's what other countries did and he was speaking to our PM the day we locked down.

His "cheer leading" killed tens of thousands of people. end of.

no excuses or braggadocio about stopping flight from Wuhan will change that . It wasn't enough..not anywhere near enough, yet that's all he talks about. Old news. He didn't even try to catch the boat.

If he was a factory manager that failed his employees in this way he'd be charged with criminal negligence.

And he thinks you're all his employees. So get back to work..NOW!

 

 

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4 hours ago, d'ranger said:

Quick question: How many presidential briefings did she attend? You know, the ones for the administration, the ones that Trump mostly doesn't bother to attend? The ones that were warning the US about the virus?  Thanks, asking for a friend.

No idea, not even going to bother researching it again and i repeat:

4 hours ago, d'ranger said:

She's a politician, she was playing the race card at the time, this is the way the game is played and it’s an election year for fucks sake! I try to take everything with a grain of salt. 

I got no skin in this game. You got what you deserve (Trump). Not my problem. I'm just here to complain and point out your hypocrisy. 

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37 minutes ago, Venom said:

No idea, not even going to bother researching it again and i repeat:

I got no skin in this game. You got what you deserve (Trump). Not my problem. I'm just here to complain and point out your hypocrisy. 

Let me know when you see my hypocrisy, so far you are just another pissant pissing in PA.

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3 hours ago, Shortforbob said:

Bottom line, If he'd got the governors to lock down wherever there was a single case, back when even WHO declared a pandemic. no where near 92,000 people would have died. That's what other countries did and he was speaking to our PM the day we locked down.

His "cheer leading" killed tens of thousands of people. end of.

no excuses or braggadocio about stopping flight from Wuhan will change that . It wasn't enough..not anywhere near enough, yet that's all he talks about. Old news. He didn't even try to catch the boat.

If he was a factory manager that failed his employees in this way he'd be charged with criminal negligence.

And he thinks you're all his employees. So get back to work..NOW!

 

 

Once again you show your ignorance of how this country works. 
 

if he had attempted to shut down the entire country or even in states where there was one single case.  The AG’s, in the blue states and maybe some red ones would have flocked to a liberal court in HI or CA and had a stay to block his order in place within hours.   Then the 9th circuit would join in claiming it’s unconstitutional to prevent freedom of assembly  

 

 

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5 hours ago, Venom said:

Not that I know of but she said it was safe and I don't see her wearing a mask and Dr. Fauci at the National Institutes of Health, seemed to have confidence in what she was doing. Should they be allowed to open back up for business?  

it was stupid but it was also 3 months ago.

Is she doing it now?

Trump is.

 

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4 hours ago, Swimsailor said:

Yet you are being conned.  That is hilarious. Even now, Trump is passing every buck he can.  The thread is " Trump's Deaths" and now wants us to believe it is the CDC who is at fault.  Somehow it's also Obama's fault.  Yet Trump is the fucking POTUS!

The Joke is a reichista moran - why do you engage him?

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51 minutes ago, Swimsailor said:

Somewhere deep down in my heart of hearts I believe he can be turned.  Or maybe i'm just a masochist 

You're dreaming. The Joke is too dumb to turn.

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1 hour ago, Swimsailor said:

Somewhere deep down in my heart of hearts I believe he can be turned.  Or maybe i'm just a masochist 

I think you would  be surprised on who I have voted for in the past  And what my views are on say Gay Marriage - I fully support it.   I’m Pro choice and believe in a work visa program for illegals.  But I’m just not a hate Trump on every issue out there voter

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