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15 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

Bull shit

There are a lot of programs giving assistance to families, for just one example refurbing and supplying laptops to low-income households, etc etc

You don't know what the fuck is going on, you just wanna bitch about how your little white butt-buddies are getting screwed. And your chosen politicians have worked to slash the kind of programs you say you're in support of.... "yeah like Head Start, BUT..."

And then you whine that we call you a racist fuck-head. Because you make it very obvious you are one.

- DSK

Stop projecting your BS.  WTF do laptops have to do with helping teach a parent the importance of reading to their child, good nutrition, etc.  Just handing them a laptop and telling them to google how to raise a child is ludicrous.  

What programs are out there that specifically address teaching parents how to be better parents?  If there is one, I'm not aware of it.  And I doubt it exists because it would be too much of a political football.  Imagine telling low income POC that they suck as parents and that they need help.  But the fact is they do need help.  Just like poor white parents out in the styx suck as parents too.  In fact, judging by the kids I see these days - most middle class white and black parents suck at it.  

I would make parenting classes mandatory for all low income folks receiving assistance - white or black.  And that includes maybe making a decision not NOT have more kids.  

But yes, I'm sure in your mind that is a racist policy proposal.  shrug.

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According to the police report the statue slipped and fell into the river.

LOL...really...LOL...one of the lefts favorite rants is against privatized prisons...

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8 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

Stop projecting your BS.  WTF do laptops have to do with helping teach a parent the importance of reading to their child, good nutrition, etc.  Just handing them a laptop and telling them to google how to raise a child is ludicrous.  

What programs are out there that specifically address teaching parents how to be better parents?  If there is one, I'm not aware of it.  And I doubt it exists because it would be too much of a political football.  Imagine telling low income POC that they suck as parents and that they need help.  But the fact is they do need help.  Just like poor white parents out in the styx suck as parents too.  In fact, judging by the kids I see these days - most middle class white and black parents suck at it.  

I would make parenting classes mandatory for all low income folks receiving assistance - white or black.  And that includes maybe making a decision not NOT have more kids.  

But yes, I'm sure in your mind that is a racist policy proposal.  shrug.

You're not aware, period.

You want to burn existing programs down, with the vague idea of something better in the future. You want to make your narrow ideas mandatory, and then accuse me of projecting.

You're just a toddler having a meltdown. Some day perhaps you'll realize how wrong you've been, but I doubt it. Burn the house down, bitch

- DSK

 

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36 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

You're not aware, period.

You want to burn existing programs down, with the vague idea of something better in the future. You want to make your narrow ideas mandatory, and then accuse me of projecting.

You're just a toddler having a meltdown. Some day perhaps you'll realize how wrong you've been, but I doubt it. Burn the house down, bitch

- DSK

 

Talk about a toddler having a meltdown.....^^  Where did I say anything about stopping existing programs?  Short answer is I have never said that.  I simply said either refocus our effort or add additional programs.  

Bitch.

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13 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

Talk about a toddler having a meltdown.....^^  Where did I say anything about stopping existing programs?  Short answer is I have never said that.  I simply said either refocus our effort or add additional programs.  

Bitch. 

 

Oh good, your generic complaints about programs you don't know about, doing stuff you disagree with, is not the right-wing racist asscarrot equivalent of DEFUND THE POLICE

I apologize for the mistake

- DSK

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2 hours ago, Burning Man said:

Stop projecting your BS.  WTF do laptops have to do with helping teach a parent the importance of reading to their child, good nutrition, etc.  Just handing them a laptop and telling them to google how to raise a child is ludicrous.  

What programs are out there that specifically address teaching parents how to be better parents?  If there is one, I'm not aware of it.  And I doubt it exists because it would be too much of a political football.  Imagine telling low income POC that they suck as parents and that they need help.  But the fact is they do need help.  Just like poor white parents out in the styx suck as parents too.  In fact, judging by the kids I see these days - most middle class white and black parents suck at it.  

I would make parenting classes mandatory for all low income folks receiving assistance - white or black.  And that includes maybe making a decision not NOT have more kids.  

But yes, I'm sure in your mind that is a racist policy proposal.  shrug.

Yes, make it mandatory for low income parents. Cause wealthy parents only raise, successful, well adjusted spawn.

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1 hour ago, mikewof said:

 

Yeah. And?

Why would a global superpower be concerned about a bunch of civil rights protestors?

They are One World Order subversives...both tools in the Marxist overthrow 

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5 minutes ago, BravoBravo said:

They are One World Order subversives...both tools in the Marxist overthrow 

Subversives are good. We need them. They help maintain the vibrancy of our freedoms.

As for the Marxists, even China has gone full-throttle American, and now they're beating us in the Economic War. We have a lot more to worry about at this point than a "Marxist overthrow." Right now, decay from within, corrosion of our own economy resulting from the impacts of our decisions and fears is a far greater than anything else.

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3 hours ago, Burning Man said:

Stop projecting your BS.  WTF do laptops have to do with helping teach a parent the importance of reading to their child, good nutrition, etc.  Just handing them a laptop and telling them to google how to raise a child is ludicrous.  

What programs are out there that specifically address teaching parents how to be better parents?  If there is one, I'm not aware of it.  And I doubt it exists because it would be too much of a political football.  Imagine telling low income POC that they suck as parents and that they need help.  But the fact is they do need help.  Just like poor white parents out in the styx suck as parents too.  In fact, judging by the kids I see these days - most middle class white and black parents suck at it.  

I would make parenting classes mandatory for all low income folks receiving assistance - white or black.  And that includes maybe making a decision not NOT have more kids.  

But yes, I'm sure in your mind that is a racist policy proposal.  shrug.

JBSF, are you joking about this one again?

It's really a bad idea. Public assistance is due to economic considerations, not parenting ones.

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27 minutes ago, mikewof said:

JBSF, are you joking about this one again?

It's really a bad idea. Public assistance is due to economic considerations, not parenting ones.

No I'm not joking.  Why would making public assistance conditional on taking some parenting classes and getting the children some help to close that 2 year gap that @Cal20sailor talks about, a bad thing??  

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Just now, Burning Man said:

No I'm not joking.  Why would making public assistance conditional on taking some parenting classes and getting the children some help to close that 2 year gap that @Cal20sailor talks about, a bad thing??  

then why not mandatory for the wealthy?

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4 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

No I'm not joking.  Why would making public assistance conditional on taking some parenting classes and getting the children some help to close that 2 year gap that @Cal20sailor talks about, a bad thing??  

Why not make the IRS standard deduction and any other subsidy for offspring conditional on taking some parenting classes then?  

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5 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

No I'm not joking.  Why would making public assistance conditional on taking some parenting classes and getting the children some help to close that 2 year gap that @Cal20sailor talks about, a bad thing??  

Do you have children?

The 2-year-gap that Cal20sailor describes is a result of poverty. What you describe is punitive, and thus little good will come of punitive actions against law-abiding citizens.

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5 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

then why not mandatory for the wealthy?

Because the wealthy are not getting public assistance that we can use to make receiving the aid conditional.  Maybe the word "Mandatory" is incorrect.  Conditional on receiving taxpayer aid.  They can refuse to take the classes, but then they give up the aid.  So not mandatory per se.

Edit:  I suppose we could do the same with the rich in order to receive their tax loopholes.  I have no issue will all parents being required to attend child rearing classes.  It would help rich and poor alike to maybe not have so many kids grow up to be soulless douchebags..

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On 6/27/2020 at 8:37 AM, Venom said:

That’s very generous of you, Jules. How much of your  monthly income are you willing to chip in?  

I'll donate 75% of my contribution to the war budget.  I think many others are willing to do so too.  100% of my contribution to money spent by the feds at little don's socialist playgrounds for the elite.

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3 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

Because the wealthy are not getting public assistance that we can use to make receiving the aid conditional.  Maybe the word "Mandatory" is incorrect.  Conditional on receiving taxpayer aid.  They can refuse to take the classes, but then they give up the aid.  So not mandatory per se.

Edit:  I suppose we could do the same with the rich in order to receive their tax loopholes.  I have no issue will all parents being required to attend child rearing classes.  It would help rich and poor alike to maybe not have so many kids grow up to be soulless douchebags..

Why not just take the kids away from them, put them in boarding schools where they can learn how to become productive citizens and forget their self-destructive thug culture?

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10 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

Because the wealthy are not getting public assistance that we can use to make receiving the aid conditional.  Maybe the word "Mandatory" is incorrect.  Conditional on receiving taxpayer aid.  They can refuse to take the classes, but then they give up the aid.  So not mandatory per se.

Edit:  I suppose we could do the same with the rich in order to receive their tax loopholes.  I have no issue will all parents being required to attend child rearing classes.  It would help rich and poor alike to maybe not have so many kids grow up to be soulless douchebags..

 while we're at it, we could make corporate subsidies and tax breaks contingent on the executives getting a certificate in corporate responsibility, ethics, and governance.  40 hours should do it for each exec.  And let's do one for all legislators and executives in states who receive federal dollars. How about a class on Constitutional Law for those guys?  Mandatory, but only if you want the money.  Totally legal.  Also, any company who gets TIF financing or other tax incentives for locating a business in a specific city or state. They can take courses on community planning, business and environmental impact statements, transparency in government and corporations, and similar.  

You don't even need to do all this re-education in camps either.  Online works fine.

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Oh, wait - anyone who gets a homestead exemption or home interest deduction should definitely have to pass a class in basic finance, personal accounting, will preparation, recordation, and liens/security interests.

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54 minutes ago, MR.CLEAN said:

 while we're at it, we could make corporate subsidies and tax breaks contingent on the executives getting a certificate in corporate responsibility, ethics, and governance.  40 hours should do it for each exec.  And let's do one for all legislators and executives in states who receive federal dollars. How about a class on Constitutional Law for those guys?  Mandatory, but only if you want the money.  Totally legal.  Also, any company who gets TIF financing or other tax incentives for locating a business in a specific city or state. They can take courses on community planning, business and environmental impact statements, transparency in government and corporations, and similar.  

You don't even need to do all this re-education in camps either.  Online works fine.

I'd be totally fine with this.  Make it so, #2.

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16 minutes ago, MR.CLEAN said:

jeff will love that.

I do love it.  

Furthermore, I think voting should also require civics 101 refresher as well.  Every 5 years should be good with a current events top off every 2 years.

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17 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

I do love it.  

Furthermore, I think voting should also require civics 101 refresher as well.  Every 5 years should be good with a current events top off every 2 years.

Yep, love it.

Who gets to grade the tests?

- DSK

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1 hour ago, MR.CLEAN said:

Oh, wait - anyone who gets a homestead exemption or home interest deduction should definitely have to pass a class in basic finance, personal accounting, will preparation, recordation, and liens/security interests.

Don't forget, anyone who wants to drive a car on public motorways should know how to at least change a CV joint and add transmission fluid, and everyone who uses anything connected to the internet should be tested in a functional level of simple programming, say a prime number generator, and know basic circuit analysis. Anyone who uses public heath systems should have basic first aid and CPR knowledge, and anyone who uses public sewage treatment should at least know how to manage alkalinity and GAC.

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58 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

I do love it.  

Furthermore, I think voting should also require civics 101 refresher as well.  Every 5 years should be good with a current events top off every 2 years.

Not legal.  Voting is a fundamental right.  Subsidies are not.

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6 minutes ago, MR.CLEAN said:

Not legal.  Voting is a fundamental right.  Subsidies are not.

Wait, what?  So you're saying that a training requirement for a fundamental right is not legal?  Ok..... if you say so.

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1 minute ago, MR.CLEAN said:

oh shit, there i go trying to point out simple and basic facts again

 

So you finally agree that requirements for training on 2A rights are illegal?  Whoda thunk?  I'm glad I was able to point out some simple and basic facts for ya.  Welcome.

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1 minute ago, Burning Man said:

So you finally agree that requirements for training on 2A rights are illegal?  Whoda thunk?  I'm glad I was able to point out some simple and basic facts for ya.  Welcome.

Why the confusion Ken?
The Supremes have come up with many reasons for "Well Regulated"

Voting is VERY regulated.  If Voting is your baseline, get ready for lots and lots of regulations. I think a little old lady should be required to approve you to shoot your 1 round every 2 years you are allowed.  It's ok, I won't require picture ID for you to exercise this right.

Poor Ken.

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23 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

Why the confusion Ken?
The Supremes have come up with many reasons for "Well Regulated"

Voting is VERY regulated.  If Voting is your baseline, get ready for lots and lots of regulations. I think a little old lady should be required to approve you to shoot your 1 round every 2 years you are allowed.  It's ok, I won't require picture ID for you to exercise this right.

Poor Ken.

So much fail.  Your own legal expert elk said that requiring training to exercise a fundamental right is illegal.  So be it.  

However, I'm sure you and clean will both be fine with a waiting period and a background check imposed on the right to vote as well.  

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7 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

So much fail.  Your own legal expert elk said that requiring training to exercise a fundamental right is illegal.  So be it.  

However, I'm sure you and clean will both be fine with a waiting period and a background check imposed on the right to vote as well.  

It already exists, it's called "registration." They check for felonies, residence, citizenship, age, etc.

 

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21 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

So much fail.  Your own legal expert elk said that requiring training to exercise a fundamental right is illegal.  So be it.  

However, I'm sure you and clean will both be fine with a waiting period and a background check imposed on the right to vote as well.  

1) not an expert in anything, although I am taking a class next month that will make me a Certified Mergers and Acquisitions Advisor.

2) Time, place, and manner restrictions are appropriate for all fundamental rights, if narrowly drawn.  Have a problem with this?  Talk to SCOTUS, not the SA forum.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Saorsa said:

Two dead teenagers in the CHOP.

Police not involved so I guess it doesn't matter.

How many lived?  I am always amazed how many people are obsessed with a place they don't live or visit. A friend asked about about his the other day, what did I think about it. My answer, I really didn't think about it.

YMMV

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7 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

I am always amazed how many people are obsessed with a place they don't live or visit.

So very American.

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9 hours ago, Burning Man said:

We are currently starting too late because the focus is on getting blacks into college while pretty much completely ignoring working with parents and pregnant mothers and early childhood development.  I would like to shift the focus to prenatal care and parental education to teach them the importance of nutrition, reading, etc.  Head Start programs attempt to do that, but they only deal with the kid and very rarely with the parent.  It has to start at the parent.

Maybe where you live. 

In my blue City, we spend a lot of time & money helping pregnant women & new parents be better parents:  

https://growingupnyc.cityofnewyork.us/programs/nurse-family-partnership/

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/neighborhood-health/healthy-start-brooklyn.page

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/acs/pdf/about/2017/ResourceGuideExpectantParentingYouth.pdf

etc, etc, etc.

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1 hour ago, d'ranger said:

How many lived?  I am always amazed how many people are obsessed with a place they don't live or visit. A friend asked about about his the other day, what did I think about it. My answer, I really didn't think about it.

YMMV

Actually, I've been to Seattle, never lived there.  Did spend some time in Yakima.

But, why all the riots because of a killing there?

I've been to Chicago too.  How about these three from last weekend?

Chicago-victims.jpg

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3 minutes ago, Saorsa said:

Actually, I've been to Seattle, never lived there.  Did spend some time in Yakima.

But, why all the riots because of a killing there?

I've been to Chicago too.  How about these three from last weekend?

 

How's Trump's shroom taste today?

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On 6/28/2020 at 10:37 PM, Mrleft8 said:

In fact, I believe that all memorials grandstanding war or glorifying it should be removed. I'm not talking about memorial walls, or cemeteries, but Pershing on his horse, Roosevelt like wise. Giant spiked cannons at the corners of cemeteries... these have no pace in civil society, especially not cemeteries.

 

I disagree.

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2 hours ago, Saorsa said:

Actually, I've been to Seattle, never lived there.  Did spend some time in Yakima.

But, why all the riots because of a killing there?

I've been to Chicago too.  How about these three from last weekend?

Chicago-victims.jpg

No caucasians involved.  Nothing to protest there.

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4 hours ago, d'ranger said:

How many lived?  I am always amazed how many people are obsessed with a place they don't live or visit. A friend asked about about his the other day, what did I think about it. My answer, I really didn't think about it.

YMMV

Pretty much why all the protests are occurring.  

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On 6/30/2020 at 3:27 PM, mikewof said:

Do you have children?

The 2-year-gap that Cal20sailor describes is a result of poverty. What you describe is punitive, and thus little good will come of punitive actions against law-abiding citizens.

Exactly, household income rules and the correlation with academic achievement is near 1.

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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/1/darryl-daniels-clay-county-sheriff-vows-deputize-g/
 

oh oh.
Don’t go to clay county to protest, the sheriff has a plan. 

He’s wearing a white cowboy hat, so In America he’s a good guy, right ? 

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10 hours ago, Keith said:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/1/darryl-daniels-clay-county-sheriff-vows-deputize-g/
 

oh oh.
Don’t go to clay county to protest, the sheriff has a plan. 

He’s wearing a white cowboy hat, so In America he’s a good guy, right ? 

Not sure how much will come up in a search but he has been under investigation for corruption for quite a while.

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The results are in.... BLM's war on the police has resulted in a surge criminal activity in cities across America. The taking of the black lives BLM pretends to defend are up all over as police refrain from discretionary enforcement. The worst is probably yet to come as city officials work to defund their police departments in the middle of the crime wave.

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11 minutes ago, Dog said:

The results are in.... BLM's war on the police has resulted in a surge criminal activity in cities across America. The taking of the black lives BLM pretends to defend are up all over as police refrain from discretionary enforcement. The worst is probably yet to come as city officials work to defund their police departments in the middle of the crime wave.

Well well, aren't you just a little ray of fucking sunshine

And a beacon of honesty, of course

- DSK

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10 hours ago, Mid said:

 

He's admitting he is not going to be able to do the job he was elected to do.

Who will be responsible for the liability of these newly minted "deputies"?

A friend responded to my comment about this on FB by saying "This is the south, this shit happens here".

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7 hours ago, Dog said:

The results are in.... BLM's war on the police has resulted in a surge criminal activity in cities across America. The taking of the black lives BLM pretends to defend are up all over as police refrain from discretionary enforcement. The worst is probably yet to come as city officials work to defund their police departments in the middle of the crime wave.

Is that Tucker or Hannity? Just curious as nothing like that is occurring in Texas. When I spend a few minutes on each cable news channel the FOX ones are always screeching about law and order while BBC, CNN and MSNBC are focused on the pandemic.

Feel free to actually provide some of those results that are in, not holding my breath.

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10 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

Is that Tucker or Hannity? Just curious as nothing like that is occurring in Texas. When I spend a few minutes on each cable news channel the FOX ones are always screeching about law and order while BBC, CNN and MSNBC are focused on the pandemic.

Feel free to actually provide some of those results that are in, not holding my breath.

In Minneapolis, shootings have more than doubled this year compared to last. Nearly half of all those shootings have occurred since George Floyd’s death”.

In Chicago, 18 people were killed and 47 wounded in drive- and walk-by shootings last weekend.

In Baltimore, homicides are higher so far this year than in 2019, which had the highest homicide rate on record for that city”.

New York City’s homicide rate is at a five year high; the number of shooting victims was up over 42 percent through June 21 compared with the same period in 2019. The number of shootings in the first three weeks of June was over twice that of the same period in 2019”.

https://www.city-journal.org/ferguson-effect-inner-cities

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12 minutes ago, MR.CLEAN said:

You can tell how broken up dog is over all those dead urban dwellers.  So nice of him to 'think of the blacks'.

 

Dog doesn't give a shit about black bodies, unless he can use them to score political points.

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18 minutes ago, MR.CLEAN said:

You can tell how broken up dog is over all those dead urban dwellers.  So nice of him to 'think of the blacks'.

 

It's clear who's doesn't give a shit about it.

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6 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

Dog doesn't give a shit about black bodies, unless he can use them to score political points.

Yeah...make it about me....Fuck off

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Just now, Bus Driver said:

When you pretend to care about black bodies, it sorta becomes about you.

No...You're the one pretending. It's fucking pathetic how you always go personal when you've got nothing.

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3 minutes ago, Dog said:

No...You're the one pretending. It's fucking pathetic how you always go personal when you've got nothing.

Fuck you, and your indignation at "personal".  The last time you made it about me, I pointed out your hypocrisy.

If you wanna make it personal about my profession or city I love, go right the fuck ahead.

Just stop crying like a little bitch when it gets returned.

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3 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

Fuck you, and your indignation at "personal".  The last time you made it about me, I pointed out your hypocrisy.

If you wanna make it personal about my profession or city I love, go right the fuck ahead.

Just stop crying like a little bitch when it gets returned.

Can't make a case, attack the person. Fucking juvenile.

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1 hour ago, Dog said:

In Minneapolis, shootings have more than doubled this year compared to last. Nearly half of all those shootings have occurred since George Floyd’s death”.

In Chicago, 18 people were killed and 47 wounded in drive- and walk-by shootings last weekend.

In Baltimore, homicides are higher so far this year than in 2019, which had the highest homicide rate on record for that city”.

New York City’s homicide rate is at a five year high; the number of shooting victims was up over 42 percent through June 21 compared with the same period in 2019. The number of shootings in the first three weeks of June was over twice that of the same period in 2019”.

https://www.city-journal.org/ferguson-effect-inner-cities

This is considered a right right site, mostly truthful and with that in mind: Attributing everything to BLM protests? If so why don't we see this in every city that has been protesting? Seattle? Houston? DC?  It's that lazy broad brushing that doesn't take into consideration the black unemployment of almost 50%, effects of lockdowns, pandemic deaths etc.  I watch enough FOX to see the flames of hatred fanned nightly, easy to see you are a connoisseur.

But don't let me rain on your Daily Outrage parade.

edit: never mind I just did. carry on.

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I’m temped to ask who is making money during these times.  Could be a clue to some of the motivation of certain involved parties. 
 

Media outlets is an easy one.  
The usual pontificators are another obvious one 

who else?

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1 minute ago, Windward said:

I’m temped to ask who is making money during these times.  Could be a clue to some of the motivation of certain involved parties. 
 

Media outlets is an easy one.  
The usual pontificators are another obvious one 

who else?

BLM is raking it in. 

"What starts as a movement becomes a business and then a racket".

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28 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

It really is sad.  He didn't used to be such a Trump Dick Sucker.

He’s been swallowing mushroom so long he doesn’t remember what good tastes like....

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Just now, Dog said:

BLM is raking it in. 

"What starts as a movement becomes a business and then a racket".

Ahh, look at the jealousy

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I'm reminded of that old joke in which a dog is observed licking his balls and someone says "If I could do that, I'd never leave the house."

Then, why does Dog feel the need to lick President Trump's balls?

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On 7/1/2020 at 12:15 AM, Rok Dog said:

I disagree.

You'd love our zoo.  We have a couple cannons at the driveway entrance to remind you of the rebellion of the slave states.

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16 minutes ago, Dog said:

BLM is raking it in. 

"What starts as a movement becomes a business and then a racket".

Cool, I wanna get in on their IPO

Since my stock broker is a black guy, this could be when my ship comes in!

- DSK

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13 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

I'm reminded of that old joke in which a dog is observed licking his balls and someone says "If I could do that, I'd never leave the house."

Then, why does Dog feel the need to lick President Trump's balls?

I'm reminded that the person who wrote this teaches our children.

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13 hours ago, d'ranger said:

This is considered a right right site, mostly truthful and with that in mind: Attributing everything to BLM protests? If so why don't we see this in every city that has been protesting? Seattle? Houston? DC?  It's that lazy broad brushing that doesn't take into consideration the black unemployment of almost 50%, effects of lockdowns, pandemic deaths etc.  I watch enough FOX to see the flames of hatred fanned nightly, easy to see you are a connoisseur.

But don't let me rain on your Daily Outrage parade.

edit: never mind I just did. carry on.

D...I found somethin on Seattle crime.

https://nypost.com/2020/07/02/seattle-sees-525-percent-spike-in-crime-thanks-to-chop-mayor-durkan/

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14 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Cool, I wanna get in on their IPO

Since my stock broker is a black guy, this could be when my ship comes in!

- DSK

If your ship hasn't come in by now, it isn't coming in.

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2 minutes ago, jzk said:

If your ship hasn't come in by now, it isn't coming in.

You think Trump is going to crash the economy even worse than the virus is doing it for him?

I agree, but it will go back up again.

BTW the point you missed is way WAY over there->

- DSK

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1 minute ago, Steam Flyer said:

You think Trump is going to crash the economy even worse than the virus is doing it for him?

I agree, but it will go back up again.

BTW the point you missed is way WAY over there->

- DSK

Yeah, your post is completely non-responsive.  It is almost as if you meant to reply to someone else, or you have no idea what you are even talking about.

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45 minutes ago, astro said:

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Trump is a protectionist, anti-trade, big government, big spending authoritarian that thinks government is the answer to everyone's problem.  You know, a lefty much more in line with your politics than mine.

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35 minutes ago, jzk said:

Trump is a protectionist, anti-trade, big government, big spending authoritarian that thinks government is the answer to everyone's problem.  You know, a lefty much more in line with your politics than mine.

Well, the real difference is that Trump thinks the problem is that not enough people are cheering for him and he's not getting enough money. Big government is certainly an answer to that problem. He doesn't have any actual principles.

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This thread is about the BLM movement and of course some (Dog) want it shift it to crime attributing any and all crime to the protestors. Never mind that daily reports of police brutality and corruption come to light - I could point out that 6 Houston narc cops just got charged with 15 felonies and the entire department is under multiple investigations but I won't, oh, never mind I did.

Or the Bar Lives Matter protests from bar owners in Texas.  Or any other attempt to discredit a long overdue pulling back the curtain on bad cops who never face anything more than some paid leave.  While I am mostly a union supporter the police unions have abused that power and authority to allow bad cops to evade any repercussions for their actions. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.  The movement hasn't gone away, reforming police departments won't result in a crime wave and all the Hannity/Carlson/Anglehead rants change nothing.

 

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15 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

This thread is about the BLM movement and of course some (Dog) want it shift it to crime attributing any and all crime to the protestors.  Never mind that daily reports of police brutality and corruption come to light - I could point out that 6 Houston narc cops just got charged with 15 felonies and the entire department is under multiple investigations but I won't, oh, never mind I did.

Or the Bar Lives Matter protests from bar owners in Texas.  Or any other attempt to discredit a long overdue pulling back the curtain on bad cops who never face anything more than some paid leave.  While I am mostly a union supporter the police unions have abused that power and authority to allow bad cops to evade any repercussions for their actions. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.  The movement hasn't gone away, reforming police departments won't result in a crime wave and all the Hannity/Carlson/Anglehead rants change nothing.

 

Any fair minded reader can see that the subject most want to shift the focus of this thread to, is me.

To put us back on track let me propose that if black lives really mattered to BLM...

They would protest both police brutality and black on black crime.

They would support allowing urban black students to attend schools that would actually educate them.

They would not incite the destruction of black businesses and communities.

They would stand against illegal immigration that suppresses wages and domestic employment.

They would encourage intact black families and behaviors that lead to success, they would discourage behaviors that lead to failure, poverty and worse.

They would support law enforcement including positive reforms not try to defund or abolish it.


 

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