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5 hours ago, AJ Oliver said:

@Sea warrior  I reacted above to your assertion that you could read minds . . 

and you got all offended and hurt. 

Too bad.  

If you don't post stupidity, you won't get called stupid. 

Quite a build up of “likes” you got there sista.

 

Reminds me of a Samuel Clemens quote 

“Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect” or words to that effect

 

 

 

 

 

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You are equating the killing of blacks by the criminal element with the killing of blacks by agents of the government, suggesting that the severity of the two should be judged merely by a scorecard. 

Oh, good grief.  Is THAT why we're talking past one another?  "Systemic"  -  look it up in a dictionary  -  just means that it's a quality of a system, as opposed an individual component of the s

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6 hours ago, Sea warrior said:

Quite a build up of “likes” you got there sista.

And yours might lead to some reflection on your part . .  

but unlikely in the extreme.  

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On this dayNov 08, 1889

Young Black Man Lynched for Allegedly Frightening White Girl in Leesburg, Virginia
 

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On November 8, 1889, a white mob took 18-year-old Orion “Owen” Anderson from the jail in Leesburg, Virginia, and lynched him. Mr. Anderson, a young Black man, allegedly wore a sack on his head and frightened the daughter of a prominent white man in Loudoun County on her walk to school. Though there were no witnesses and the girl could not identify who had scared her, Mr. Anderson was arrested after a sack was found near him. He was jailed and later reports claimed he confessed to attempting to frighten her.

During the era of racial terror, Black suspects were often subjected to beatings, torture, and threats of lynching during police interrogations. While news reports often reported these confessions as justifications for the brutal terror lynchings that followed, the confession of a lynching victim was always more reliable evidence of fear than guilt.

In the early morning on November 8, a group of 40 white men rode into Leesburg on horseback. Three of the men gained entry to the jail by pretending that they had a prisoner who needed to be admitted. Once inside, they took Mr. Anderson from his cell, carried him to the freight depot of the Richmond & Danville Railroad, hanged him, and shot his body full of bullets. The members of the mob were seen riding through town on horseback afterward, but no one tried to apprehend them or claimed to recognize them. Owen Anderson was buried in the town’s pauper’s cemetery.

Leesburg’s newspaper, the Mirror, reported the lynching on November 14, calling it “a terrible warning,” and stating, “The fate of the self-confessed author of the outrage should serve as a terrible admonition to the violators of the law for the protection of female virtue.” Owen Anderson is one of over 6,500 Black women, men, and children who were victims of racial terror lynching in the U.S. between 1865-1950.

Ah, but those were the days when America was Great, eh supremacist boys?

https://calendar.eji.org/racial-injustice/nov/08

 

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9 hours ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

On this dayNov 08, 1889

Young Black Man Lynched for Allegedly Frightening White Girl in Leesburg, Virginia
 

Ah, but those were the days when America was Great, eh supremacist boys?

https://calendar.eji.org/racial-injustice/nov/08

 

Loudon County, no less.

No wonder they object to Critical Race Theory an accurate retelling of the entirety of US History.

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16 hours ago, AJ Oliver said:

And yours might lead to some reflection on your part . .  

but unlikely in the extreme.  

“You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.”

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The Newberry Six lynchings took place in Newberry, Alachua County, Florida, on August 18, 1916.

The events began with the attempt late on August 17 by Newberry constable George Wynne to serve a warrant on Boisey Long, an African–American man, for stealing hogs. Accounts differ about how the conflict began and who fired first, but Long shot and killed Wynne, and wounded another man, Dr. L. G. Harris, who accompanied him. Long initially escaped, but surrendered to authorities two days later.

In the meantime, a posse was organized by the sheriff. The posse shot and killed Jim Dennis, a friend of Long. The sheriff said he was resisting arrest. Relatives and friends of Long were rounded up and taken to jail for allegedly helping him escape; they were Bert and Mary Dennis, Long's wife Stella Young, and two friends of Dennis, Andrew McHenry and Reverend Josh Baskin. A mob of 200[1] took them from the jail the morning of August 18 and hanged them from a single oak tree, one mile from Newberry; newspapers called it "a lynching bee."[2][3] The tree no longer exists, but it was at the intersection of Newberry Lane and Alachua County Route 235.[4] So many African–Americans gathered when the news of the lynchings reached them that whites were afraid of a "race war”.[5]

Nevertheless, no arrests were ever made. A newspaper in Ocala reported a rumor that the coroner's jury had returned a verdict that the six lynching victims had died in freak accidents, such as running into a barbed wire fence and bleeding to death, or falling out of a tree and choking to death or breaking their necks.[6] Archivist Rebecca Fitzsimmons at the Matheson History Museum has noted that legal documents pertaining to the lynchings have not been found.[7]

Long was tried on September 7, found guilty after an all-white jury deliberated seven minutes, and sentenced to hang.[8] He was executed in the yard of the Alachua County jail on October 27, 1916. A man who had voiced an opinion approving the killing of Wynne was forced to leave town.[9]

In 2019, a marker was unveiled in remembrance of the atrocity of the lynchings and to acknowledge the black men and women who were unjustly murdered. It is Newberry's hope that by remembering the past, racism would not be a part of the future.

 

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7 hours ago, Sea warrior said:

“You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.”

Look, I do not mean you any disrespect, but . . . 

I can prove I stood up numerous times, futile though it may have been.  

How about you ? 

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Texas Legislature Authorizes Leasing of County Jail Inmates for Profit

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On November 9, 1866, a Texas law entitled “An Act to provide for the employment of Convicts for petty offenses” was approved, authorizing county authorities to employ jailed men and women in public works and/or lease them out to private employers. These jailed workers were to receive a “wage” of $1 per day, applied toward unpaid fines or costs owed to the county. Just days later, the legislature passed another law, authorizing the leasing of state prisoners.

The Thirteenth Amendment, ratified in December 1865, was then and is still today celebrated as the legislative act that ended American slavery. However, the amendment’s text includes an exception: "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

In Southern states that had long relied on enslaved Black people to perform the agricultural work so critical to the region’s economy, emancipation upended the social, economic, and political systems. The abolition amendment's exception permitting the continued enslavement of people with criminal convictions, however, enabled the South to continue exploiting the labor of Black people and many states seized that opportunity.

In addition to passing Black Codes that criminalized acts like unemployment and public assembly when committed by freedmen, many Southern states also passed laws authorizing the leasing of the larger, predominately Black convict populations these statutes created. Rather than create a financial burden for the state, increased prison populations could create profit. In Texas and throughout the South, these arrangements would prove profitable for the state and deadly for the workers, nearly all Black, who were forced to work in dangerous, inhumane conditions.

The USA won the war, Lincoln freed the slaves, and Texas codified stealing their labor. 

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5 hours ago, AJ Oliver said:

Look, I do not mean you any disrespect, but . . . 

I can prove I stood up numerous times, futile though it may have been.  

How about you ? 

Go ahead then, prove it.

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31 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Texas Legislature Authorizes Leasing of County Jail Inmates for Profit

The USA won the war, Lincoln freed the slaves, and Texas codified stealing their labor. 

This needs to be viewed by every American citizen.

 

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I’m sure you did.

Stand up.

With the crowd.

As you are doing here.

Just Like a sheep, bleating, bleating and bleating.

Never really saying anything original.

And somehow not really saying anything at all.

 

 

No disrespect but, here’s a picture.

Now everybody, look at all the AJ’s in the crowd..

 

 

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55 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Texas Legislature Authorizes Leasing of County Jail Inmates for Profit

The USA won the war, Lincoln freed the slaves, and Texas codified stealing their labor. 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/chicago-violence-least-9-killed-112624016.html

 

“Chicago violence: 10 killed, 50 wounded over the weekend”

 


 

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3 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

"White supremacy is for extremely fragile people &sad men like him, whose self concept relies on the myth that he was born superior because deep down he knows he couldn’t open a pickle jar or read a whole book by himself."

 

3 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

"White supremacy is for extremely fragile people &sad men like him, whose self concept relies on the myth that he was born superior because deep down he knows he couldn’t open a pickle jar or read a whole book by himself."

Racism is not dead, but it is on life support — kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as “racists."
 

 

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"Racism is not dead, but it is on life support – kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as ‘racists’ " — Thomas Sowell, PhD

Pretty easy to pick out the politicians. Race hustlers get a lot of press too. That last group includes the white SJWs in PA. Presumably well-intentioned to start out but may actually be impeding black progress by knowing what's best for others based on the past, oblivious to the present.   

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12 minutes ago, Blue Crab said:

"Racism is not dead, but it is on life support – kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as ‘racists’ " — Thomas Sowell, PhD

Pretty easy to pick out the politicians. Race hustlers get a lot of press too. That last group includes the white SJWs in PA. Presumably well-intentioned to start out but may actually be impeding black progress by knowing what's best for others based on the past, oblivious to the present.   

The biggest flaw in the whole notion of white supremacy is that the people who espouse it are invariably the lowest human form on the planet, let alone of the white race. They are the absolute best evidence against the fallacy they pimp. They are LBJ's lowest white man, just looking for someone to whom they can feel superior. 

Anyone is entitled to Sowell's opinion. We are better off learning from our history. The factual record is there, whether we were taught it or not. We are better off if we leave the place better than we found it, and resist those pushing us to reset the system to some time they deem "great". Our greatest days are ahead of us, not behind us. 

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52 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

The biggest flaw in the whole notion of white supremacy is that the people who espouse it are invariably the lowest human form on the planet ...

The second biggest is being grouped with the lowest by dim folks who can't see the paradigm shifting, literally, moment by moment. The kind of people who would argue that the genset isn't powering the battery charger. 

We have met the enemy ...

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5 minutes ago, Blue Crab said:

The second biggest is being grouped with the lowest by dim folks who can't see the paradigm shifting, literally, moment by moment. The kind of people who would argue that the genset isn't powering the battery charger. 

We have met the enemy ...

The genset next to the battery charger is quite likely powering it. That's just common sense. What I can't tell is whether or not it is powering it whenever the charger operates, or only as a backup for when the power is out. Context is everything. 

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5 hours ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Texas Legislature Authorizes Leasing of County Jail Inmates for Profit

The USA won the war, Lincoln freed the slaves, and Texas codified stealing their labor. 

The prison industry is booming in Georgia.  At my Rotary Club meeting we salivated over the prospects of a new private jail in our south Georgia town.

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Just now, hasher said:

The prison industry is booming in Georgia.  At my Rotary Club meeting we salivated over the prospects of a new private jail in our south Georgia town.

Same with North Florida.  It's big business, and the money made is more than enough to allow some tithing to the politicos in Tallawhorehouse to get some more tough sentencing put into place. 

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8 hours ago, Blue Crab said:

"Racism is not dead, but it is on life support – kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as ‘racists’ " — Thomas Sowell, PhD

Pretty easy to pick out the politicians. Race hustlers get a lot of press too. That last group includes the white SJWs in PA. Presumably well-intentioned to start out but may actually be impeding black progress by knowing what's best for others based on the past, oblivious to the present.   

So, efforts to prevent black people from voting... as described by the people who are doing it... is not racism, IYHO?

- DSK

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6 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

So, efforts to prevent black people from voting... as described by the people who are doing it... is not racism, IYHO?

The AA folks who decline to speak out against vote suppression or lift a finger to oppose it tell you all you need to know. 

The reality is this . . .  

https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/09/29/stacking-the-deck-how-the-gop-works-to-suppress-minority-voting/

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10 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:
19 hours ago, Blue Crab said:

"Racism is not dead, but it is on life support – kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as ‘racists’ " — Thomas Sowell, PhD

Pretty easy to pick out the politicians. Race hustlers get a lot of press too. That last group includes the white SJWs in PA. Presumably well-intentioned to start out but may actually be impeding black progress by knowing what's best for others based on the past, oblivious to the present.   

So, efforts to prevent black people from voting... as described by the people who are doing it... is not racism, IYHO?

- DSK

How does your comment relate to mine? 

I think you should stick with "we don't know where the wires go."

;) That was great!

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Check it out, supremacist bullshitters. 1/6 wasn’t the first coup in our history!

 

White Mobs Lead Racialized Political Coup in North Carolina

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The only acknowledged coup d’etat in U.S. history occurred on November 10, 1898, when mobs of armed white supremacists descended on city hall in Wilmington, North Carolina, and forced both Black and white elected officials to resign. Two days earlier, Wilmington voters had elected a biracial city government, to the dismay of white groups known as “Red Shirts” who had tried to intimidate Black voters.

The insurrection was the apex of frustration among racist former Confederates in North Carolina who had lost governing power to an interracial political coalition in 1894. As they planned to forcibly regain power in the state, the former Confederates projected their commitment to white supremacy and trumpeted their conviction that white women were endangered by free Black men. The mob's takeover of the local government was the culmination of two days of post-election violence, in which armed white rioters destroyed Black businesses and killed dozens of Black residents. One business destroyed by the mob was a Black newspaper led by Alex Manly, whose writing openly denounced the lynching of Black men accused of having relationships with white women.

The white supremacist mob was led by Colonel Alfred Moore Waddell, who declared that he would “choke the current of the Cape Fear River” with Black bodies. The exact number of Black people killed in the attack is unknown, but some estimates are as high as 100. President William McKinley declined to intervene or provide assistance to Wilmington’s Black residents; the mob was permitted to seize political control of the city, and appointed Colonel Waddell as Wilmington’s new mayor.

https://calendar.eji.org/racial-injustice/nov/10

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6 hours ago, AJ Oliver said:
12 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

So, efforts to prevent black people from voting... as described by the people who are doing it... is not racism, IYHO?

The AA folks who decline to speak out against vote suppression or lift a finger to oppose it tell you all you need to know. 

The reality is this . . .  

https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/09/29/stacking-the-deck-how-the-gop-works-to-suppress-minority-voting/

Yep. Good article.

However they didn't mention the Republican actions in this state, which were part of a plan to surgically target minority voting... in the words of those who made the plan.

- DSK

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On 11/9/2021 at 9:20 AM, Sol Rosenberg said:

 

Anyone is entitled to Sowell's opinion. We are better off learning from our history. 

You dismiss Sowell’s opinion but have no compunction about espousing the opinions of a twat like LBJ.

 

Speaking of others opinions, I agree with you on one thing and that is that my fellow Irishman was correct when he stated that “those who don’t know  history are destined to repeat it”

 

And finally, here’s another quote “if you constantly dwell in the past, that’s where you will end up living”

 

 

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Shitheels have been getting outraged by BLM protests for centuries. 

Nat Turner Hanged; Hundreds of Black People Later Killed By White Mobs Angry About Slave Revolt

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On November 11, 1831, after a rushed trial and conviction, an enslaved Black man named Nat Turner was hanged in Jerusalem, Virginia, after being convicted of leading a revolt against his enslavers.

On August 21, 1831, Mr. Turner led a group of Black people in a revolt against slavery. Other enslaved Black people joined the uprising and Mr. Turner's troops grew to 60 to 70 people who fought white enslavers before being defeated by a militia. Many of Mr. Turner's followers were killed or captured immediately but Mr. Turner escaped and evaded searchers for weeks before being captured on October 30, 1831.

Enslavers and defenders of slavery throughout Virginia wanted Nat Turner and all who participated in the revolt harshly punished as an example to others who might be inspired by his efforts. At least 18 Black participants in the uprising were executed along with Nat Turner.

However, in the months after the rebellion, angry white mobs began to torture and murder hundreds of Black people who had not participated in the revolt, terrorizing enslaved and free Black people. Conditions of enslavement worsened for thousands of enslaved Black people as more cruel, barbaric, and traumatizing forms of control were implemented.

In response to Mr. Turner’s revolt, at least nine states—Virginia, Alabama, Delaware, Georgia, Louisiana, Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Tennessee—passed laws targeting enslaved and free Black people and limiting their mobility. These laws prohibited Black people from assembling freely, conducting independent religious services, or preaching to a crowd of more than five people. Some states passed laws criminalizing the education of Black people, prohibiting Black people from learning to read or write. Some states also passed laws barring free Black people from living in the state.

Rather than retreat from the horrors of slavery as was happening in Central and South America, slave states in America committed to a new era of harsher conditions, dehumanizing control, and brutal punishment to control enslaved people.

https://calendar.eji.org/racial-injustice/nov/11

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8 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

In response to Mr. Turner’s revolt, at least nine states—Virginia, Alabama, Delaware, Georgia, Louisiana, Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Tennessee—passed laws targeting enslaved and free Black people and limiting their mobility. These laws prohibited Black people from assembling freely, conducting independent religious services, or preaching to a crowd of more than five people. Some states passed laws criminalizing the education of Black people, prohibiting Black people from learning to read or write. Some states also passed laws barring free Black people from living in the state.

That's quite a list, but is it complete? Any other rights infringed?

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14 minutes ago, Seriatim Tom said:

That's quite a list, but is it complete? Any other rights infringed?

A dog whistle, for armed racial conflict. Again. What is up with you?

Let's discuss the situation with this person, he can be found in one of your links, upthread.

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19 minutes ago, Seriatim Tom said:

I already told you it's going to get awkward when I quote you.

We are in the sixth year of this. ^_^  You are crapping upon your legacy, IMO, and you better be ready to take this to twenty years. Since racebaiting is a constant smoke in the air, I kinda anticipate combustion, in some form.

 

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Good boy, Dogballs. Have it your way. Let's play "Just add guns to the racial problem."

Let's discuss the subject with this guy, Grandmaster Jay. He is neither mature, nor stable, IMO, but he is fully onboard with a philosophy (and geopolitics) to sort all this racial impasse. The impasse features the tireless Tom Dogballs Ray, on OCD, race-baiting away, with guns. 

This group marches with live ammo, because a few shots were fired, inadvertently.

The NFAC made very impressive appearances in three cities, recently. I am the only person on PA who adds them to the mix.

And here's where you come in: the government took away his guns and his media presence, for pointing a (gun-mounted) flashlight at LE.

NFAC: Why is Grandmaster Jay being prosecuted and what is his militia? (thetrace.org)

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On 11/10/2021 at 7:26 AM, Steam Flyer said:

However they didn't mention the Republican actions in this state, which were part of a plan to surgically target minority voting... in the words of those who made the plan.

You said something like this yesterday. You didn't believe blacks would/could vote R in the face of the constant and obvious voter suppression from whites.

But they are doing so. They're not going to ask the Rs for anything ... they will demand it with their vote. That's new. I've long wondered what's in it for a guy like Tim Scott but he's gambling that the black vote can outdistance the voter suppression.  

Perhaps we'll soon see four political parties:

Progressives , Conserv L, Black Power R, Regressives

Consider:  

"Asked what the secret was to the surprise victories of both Democratic Party challengers in Georgia, the Rev. Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff, Brown credits grass-roots organizing across every county and not trying to convince people to embrace or reject a specific candidate, but to connect to a broader idea.

Our candidate was Black power,” Brown said of her group’s pitch to voters in Georgia, which has historically low rates of African American voter registration and a long history of efforts to disqualify or purge Black voters. The message was, “‘Yes, in spite of the voter suppression, we have power, y’all.’ It was that fundamental. I could go to places and tell people, ‘We have power’ and see them literally shift,” she said. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/02/record-turnout-of-black-voters-comes-after-decades-of-activism/

Winsome Sears Meets Candace Owens.

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6 minutes ago, Blue Crab said:
On 11/10/2021 at 7:26 AM, Steam Flyer said:

However they didn't mention the Republican actions in this state, which were part of a plan to surgically target minority voting... in the words of those who made the plan.

You said something like this yesterday. You didn't believe blacks would/could vote R in the face of the constant and obvious voter suppression from whites.    ...

Sorry, please explain a little further. Where did I say or hint this?

I've said many times that many black people are socially conservative and most black churches are definitely a conservative influence. I don't "believe" black people could/would vote Republican, I've seen it done.

You seem to be very much in favor of it.

- DSK

[edit to add] I don't get the connection between black people voting Republican and the Republican Party deliberately working to exclude black people from voting. Irony, yes.

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7 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

 

[edit to add] I don't get the connection between black people voting Republican and the Republican Party deliberately working to exclude black people from voting. Irony, yes.

Please stfu you race-baiting pos

Haven’t you idiots caused enough division already? 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Steam Flyer said:

Sorry, please explain a little further. Where did I say or hint this?

I've said many times that many black people are socially conservative and most black churches are definitely a conservative influence. I don't "believe" black people could/would vote Republican, I've seen it done.

You seem to be very much in favor of it.

- DSK

[edit to add] I don't get the connection between black people voting Republican and the Republican Party deliberately working to exclude black people from voting. Irony, yes.

Ah, the edit matters. That was my very point. 

"You seem to be very much in favor of it." 

I'm for whatever works for speaking truth to power. As I see it, the Candace Owens(es) of the world are a reaction to an apparent growing black feeling that the Ds haven't done enough, fast enough.

Cue McWhorter. Cue Thomas Sowell. And Winsome Sears. Blacks aren't asking anymore. As I've mentioned elsewhere, there is a huge group of youngish blacks looking for leadership and 400 years of momentum behind it. The education system didn't reach them.

Fitting in isn't on the agenda any longer. IMHO.

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9 minutes ago, Blue Crab said:

Ah, the edit matters. That was my very point. 

"You seem to be very much in favor of it." 

I'm for whatever works for speaking truth to power. As I see it, the Candace Owens(es) of the world are a reaction to an apparent growing black feeling that the Ds haven't done enough, fast enough.

Cue McWhorter. Cue Thomas Sowell. And Winsome Sears. Blacks aren't asking anymore. As I've mentioned elsewhere, there is a huge group of youngish blacks looking for leadership and 400 years of momentum behind in. The education system didn't reach them.

Fitting in isn't on the agenda any longer. IMHO.

No, Thomas Sowell and Candace Owens are black entertainers cashing in on the HUGE flow of money into right-wing media spew. Sowell tossed his credentials and expertise in the trash to make political points, even more so than Milton Friedman ever did. Owens is just Tucker Carlson in blackface, with falsies (except I think they're real).

I dunno much about Lt.Gov. Sears yet, but will be watching. I hope she's got some good answers, not just cashing in.

"Fitting in isn't on the agenda" ... when was it? I've heard that before, many times. Problem: it's a lot easier to trash stuff than it is to build. I say, give minorities a full seat at the table, give them REAL opportunity and don't block the rewards for what they can accomplish. The whole country would gain.

Convincing black people to vote for Republicans who will bring back Jim Crow is not an improvement, IMHO

- DSK

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16 hours ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Shitheels have been getting outraged by BLM protests for centuries. 

Nat Turner Hanged; Hundreds of Black People Later Killed By White Mobs Angry About Slave Revolt

https://calendar.eji.org/racial-injustice/nov/11

A one year old baby shot in Chicago today.

I’ve no doubt but that Black Lives Matter, Jessie and Al will start rioting any minute now about this …

 

 

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21 hours ago, jocal505 said:

And here's where you come in: the government took away his guns and his media presence, for pointing a (gun-mounted) flashlight at LE.

NFAC: Why is Grandmaster Jay being prosecuted and what is his militia? (thetrace.org)

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“I could never understand why allegedly pointing a flashlight at someone, whether it was mounted on a gun or a banana, has anything to do with my social media,” he said. 

 

Pointing bananas at people is OK. Guns? No.

He's right about people wanting to protect themselves when police won't or can't, a point raised by public defenders and black activists in the recent Supreme Court case. Not that anyone wants to hear it from them...

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41 minutes ago, Seriatim Tom said:

Pointing bananas at people is OK. Guns? No.

He's right about people wanting to protect themselves when police won't or can't, a point raised by public defenders and black activists in the recent Supreme Court case. Not that anyone wants to hear it from them...

The NFAC. Blacks fully armed, today. Pretty agitated, too. 

Bam! Gun privileges suspended, for Grandmaster Jay. Same for media presence. Gunz plus racial unrest did not work out for him. And his vision is/was a dark one: separatism in TX IIRC.

Dogballs, did you note the video streaming through the link? The marchers? This group caused a scene in front of the Kentucky Derby. One NFAC meetup site was threatened by the KKK<...which failed to show.

Were you thrilled to see your dream come true? You yammer away, year after year, clamoring for blacks to have guns, then you fall silent in the presence of the heavily arrned disarmed and media-less Grandmaster Jay. 

 

My own emphasis is that as long as democracy works, we don't need to drool in anticipation of militia violence with guns, and neither do the blacks. 

 

39 minutes ago, Seriatim Tom said:

This thread could use a bit of positive content instead, so...

In stead of race-baiting? None today?

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Two Black Teenagers Lynched in Colorado County, Texas by Mob of 700 White People
 

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On November 12, 1935, two teenaged Black boys—15-year-old Ernest Collins and 16-year-old Benny Mitchell—were killed in Colorado County, Texas, in a public spectacle lynching committed by a mob of at least 700 white men and women. Afterward, officials called the lynching “justice,” and no one in the mob was punished.

In October 1935, a young white woman’s body was found in a creek near her family’s farm in Columbus, Texas. When local officials concluded she had been murdered, suspicion soon focused on Ernest Collins and Benny Mitchell: two Black teens who had been seen picking pecans near the same creek. During this era, the deep racial hostility that permeated Southern society burdened Black people with a presumption of guilt that often served to focus suspicion on Black communities after a crime was discovered, whether evidence supported that suspicion or not.

Law enforcement officers arrested Ernest and Benny and, soon after, reported that the young men had confessed to the crime. Black suspects in the South during this time were regularly subjected to beatings, torture, and threats of lynching during police interrogations. News reports eagerly reported Ernest’s and Benny’s alleged confessions as truthful justifications for the brutal lynchings that followed, but without fair investigation or trial, their supposed confessions serve as more reliable evidence of fear than guilt.

The boys were held in Houston after arrest until they had to return to Columbus for a trial on November 12. While the sheriff was transporting Benny and Ernest to the Colorado County courthouse, several cars filled with armed white men stopped them on a bridge crossing and demanded to lynch the two boys. The sheriff handed them over.

Immediately, the white mob brought Ernest and Benny to a live oak tree about a mile from the young white girl’s home and prepared to kill them. A crowd of at least 700 people gathered to watch and repeatedly “burst into jeering screams” as Ernest and Benny, who had been chained together by their necks, were led to the tree. Several members of the mob placed ropes around the boys’ necks and hanged them until dead.

The next day, the white community proudly boasted and praised the lynchings. The county attorney publicly said the lynching was “an expression of the will of the people” and a local judge called the lynchings “justice.” Several newspapers reporting on the lynchings printed an image of two local sheriff officials posing with one of the lynching ropes, and both ropes were exhibited in a local drug store. Local press was silent about the lynching's impact on the local Black community. Though the mob members and spectators were widely known, no one was immediately arrested or charged for their actions.

Since the end of Reconstruction in 1877, racial terror lynchings targeting Black communities had killed thousands of men, women, and children throughout the U.S., but repeated calls for a federal anti-lynching law had failed due to obstruction by Southern white lawmakers. In 1935, the same year that Benny Mitchell and Ernest Collins were lynched, the Costigan-Wagner anti-lynching bill was introduced in the U.S. Senate. Texas’s own Sen. Tom Connally opposed the bill, and claimed that states were capable of stopping lynching without “federal interference.” Within weeks of the lynchings of Benny and Ernest, the NAACP protested the lack of any state or local investigation and insisted it clearly showed that many states could not—or would not—act to stop the lynching of Black people. The bill ultimately failed, and the U.S. Congress never passed anti-lynching legislation during the 20th century.

Ernest Collins and Benny Mitchell are two of at least seven African American victims of racial terror lynching killed in Colorado County, Texas, between 1877 and 1950. No one was ever held accountable for their deaths. To learn more, read EJI's report, Lynching in America: Confronting the Legacy of Racial Terror.

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20 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

... Sowell tossed his credentials and expertise in the trash to make political points, even more so than Milton Friedman ever did. ...  I'm just a spitballing old coot but as off-the-wall statements go, that's a genuine doozy.

On the one side we have the unsupported opinion of an average old white NC retiree in his gated community writing on an internet forum. 

The other is the author of 30 some books, taught Chicago School of Economics at umpteen serious unis, has a PhD, is a Harvard grad, and one could probably fill a page with other accomplishments. Oh yeah, and he is an 86 y.o. black guy writing about the black experience in America.

You are a 70 something white southern guy claiming to know what's best for 42M blackish people pushing 60 y.o. whitepeoplethink.

 See how ridiculous that appears? ...

"Fitting in isn't on the agenda" ... when was it? I've heard that before, many times. Problem: it's a lot easier to trash stuff than it is to build. I say, give minorities a full seat at the table, give them REAL opportunity and don't block the rewards for what they can accomplish. The whole country would gain.

Verbs matter. I think blacks got tired of waiting for our tablescraps. This next phase will be less pleasant.

Convincing black people to vote for Republicans who will bring back Jim Crow is not an improvement, IMHO This sentence shows a complete lack of understanding of this entire conversation, as I've been saying all along.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Blue Crab said:
21 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

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On the one side we have the unsupported opinion of an average old white NC retiree in his gated community writing on an internet forum.

If you're talking about me, 1- I'm not that old and 2- my opinions are supported by this funny little thing called "reality"

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21 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

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Verbs matter. I think blacks got tired of waiting for our tablescraps. This next phase will be less pleasant.

So, voting for the bunch that doesn't even want to give them that much will be a "win" for them? Or what?

12 minutes ago, Blue Crab said:
21 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

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You are a 70 something white southern guy claiming to know what's best for 42M blackish people pushing 60 y.o. whitepeoplethink.

Wrong on several counts. Mainly, I have never claimed any such thing.

Wanna try again, or have you jacked up your blood pressure enough for one day?

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10 minutes ago, Blue Crab said:

Verbs matter. I think blacks got tired of waiting for our tablescraps. This next phase will be less pleasant.

OK, so what do you propose as a solution? We've seen that the "meritocracy" or the market has not addressed the issue in the face of structural racism, as I believe you have acknowledged in previous posts (the racism portion), so how should the issue be addressed? AA is criticized as disadvantaging whites and asians, so ???  I would think that throwing the problem to the "market" would be a source of of disgruntlement with the "tablescraps". 

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39 minutes ago, learningJ24 said:

OK, so what do you propose as a solution? We've seen that the "meritocracy" or the market has not addressed the issue in the face of structural racism, as I believe you have acknowledged in previous posts (the racism portion), so how should the issue be addressed? AA is criticized as disadvantaging whites and asians, so ???  I would think that throwing the problem to the "market" would be a source of of disgruntlement with the "tablescraps". 

Solution? heh. The solution won't be framed or typed by white fingers. 

 

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40 minutes ago, Blue Crab said:

Solution? heh. The solution won't be framed or typed by white fingers. 

 

Sol says that if forget history then we are doomed to repeat it or words to that effect so why not revisit history and see what has worked for other oppressed classes in this country?

 

You know, hard work, involvement in community, attention to family and education etc.

 
I miss Phil..

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, learningJ24 said:

But white fingers are curled around the levers of power, in our society.

Leaving race completely out of the picture, high standards ensure meritocracy. Relaxing standards brings mediocracy. I don't think it's a good trade for society. 

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22 minutes ago, Blue Crab said:

Leaving race completely out of the picture, high standards ensure meritocracy. Relaxing standards brings mediocracy. I don't think it's a good trade for society. 

High standards OF WHAT?

So far, your "meritocracy" seems to be slanted more toward rewarding skin coloration than merit.

Citing the commie press: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/06/26/u-s-doctor-shortage-worsens-especially-black-and-latino-groups/3262561001/

This number is actually sliding backwards, after going higher for a short while 1995~2010.

Look also at the number of African-Americans in any other profession,  lawyers, CEOs, etc etc. Unless you believe that skin color equates to intelligence, pretty difficult to claim this is the result of actual "meritocracy."

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4 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

High standards OF WHAT?

pretty difficult to claim this is the result of actual "meritocracy."

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^^^ the flyer is flying now

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2 hours ago, Blue Crab said:

Leaving race completely out of the picture, high standards ensure meritocracy. Relaxing standards brings mediocracy. I don't think it's a good trade for society. 

The difficulty is that for over 200 years we didn't leave race out of the picture and, unless you accepting that race is a determinator of mediocrity, lack of work ethic and low test scores, race is a determinator of outcome in our society for the average person.  Are we to say, 'Everything's been equal for the last 20 years 'cause I say so, so y'all are on your own"? 

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How in tarnation are you supposed to know whar to burn the crosses if’n they don’t provide the membership list, supremacist bullshitters? Thet ain’t jist unfar… it is SEW Unfar!

 

On November 13, 1957, Longview, Texas, Police Chief Roy Stone threatened four top-ranking NAACP officers—Reverend S.Y. Nixon, I.S. White, E.C. Hawkins, and Rance James—phoning each of the men at home and stating he would jail them if they did not produce NAACP membership records immediately. Chief Stone acted under the authority of a new Longview city ordinance that gave the City Manager the power to demand membership lists from any organization operating within the city’s limits, and to impose criminal fines for non-compliance. Within 24 hours, Chief Stone made good on his threat, arresting Mr. Nixon, Mr. White, Mr. Hawkins, and Mr. James, and detaining them in the city jail. Longview City Judge Henry Atkinson set bail at $200.

On October 9, the Texas NAACP announced plans to host the organization’s annual state conference in Longview. During planning meetings, local white officials refused to allow the Texas NAACP to convene in Longview unless they produced membership lists. During one meeting on October 23, white Longview journalist Carl Estes physically assaulted Field Secretary Washington and forced Black organizers out of his office after the NAACP declined to disclose confidential information about its members.

The following day, the Longview City Commission passed the mandatory disclosure ordinance targeting the Texas NAACP. Every city commissioner endorsed enforcement of the ordinance, knowing that requiring the NAACP to disclose its membership lists could have disastrous and deadly consequences to its members. On October 27, NAACP Field Secretary Washington announced plans to move the Texas annual conference to Dallas, considering “the pressures, threats, ugliness, and distress” that Black civil rights leaders faced in Longview.

Membership in the NAACP or participation in civil rights work often meant that Black people would be fired from their jobs, harassed by the police and become targets of vigilante violence and hate crimes. African Americans joined despite the threats because of their commitment to end racial inequality but the risks were real.

The passage of this ordinance in Longview led to the passage of a new state law, enacted in December 1957, modeled on the Longview ordinance, which authorized county judges to demand confidential records from civil rights organizations. In 1958, in NAACP v. Alabama ex rel Patterson, the U.S. Supreme Court declared these mandatory disclosure laws unconstitutional, as violative of the First Amendment right to freedom of association.

https://calendar.eji.org/racial-injustice/nov/13

 

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LJ24 --Kinda tired of repeating myself to folks incapable of entertaining diverse thought while chalking up phantom forensic victories.  

It's not about me or what I think though I have 10 successful years in blackboard jungles and a lifetime of experience like everyone else. I've seen what has worked for me in the urban classroom. I've encountered about 80% of sheer incompetence in fellow teachers and 95% incompetence in administration. And parents? What parents? There is usually a well-intentioned but overwhelmed mom around but that isn't "parents."  

My spitballing in this forum has referenced how some modern outspoken blacks are saying thanks, but no thanks to white efforts. And we have a couple of white SJW peckerheads with no credentials calling them wrong. 

Sure Jan.

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20 minutes ago, Blue Crab said:

LJ24 --Kinda tired of repeating myself to folks incapable of entertaining diverse thought while chalking up phantom forensic victories.  

It's not about me or what I think though I have 10 successful years in blackboard jungles and a lifetime of experience like everyone else. I've seen what has worked for me in the urban classroom. I've encountered about 80% of sheer incompetence in fellow teachers and 95% incompetence in administration. And parents? What parents? There is usually a well-intentioned but overwhelmed mom around but that isn't "parents."  

My spitballing in this forum has referenced how some modern outspoken blacks are saying thanks, but no thanks to white efforts. And we have a couple of white SJW peckerheads with no credentials calling them wrong. 

Sure Jan.

If there is a lack of understanding of your explanation, if I might remind you of a basic classroom practice, the problem is either in the way the issue is presented or the position is flawed.  The imperial British method of saying the same thing louder and slower is rarely an effective teaching tool, as no doubt you know.  What is coming across in your statements is a sense of "Yeah, we had our foot on their necks for 200 years but that's not my business. Bootstraps!'. 

The question is not whether the black community should have input or control over the direction of remediation but if they have resources within their control to effect the changes.  

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Name another group for whom it was a felony to teach to read. to try to vote, to look at a woman, to gather in groups of more than 3 or marry outside of race.  Or testify against a member of another race, who was bought and sold as chattel, to travel without permission of an employer, was legally separated from society. For centuries could be tortured and murdered without legal consequence to the killers.

The freeing of minds is indeed based within self, the rest may take a larger effort.

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16 minutes ago, learningJ24 said:

If there is a lack of understanding of your explanation, if I might remind you of a basic classroom practice, the problem is either in the way the issue is presented or the position is flawed.

:rolleyes: Just the two options, eh? Take it up with McWhorter and Sowell. 

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1 minute ago, learningJ24 said:

Name another group for whom it was a felony to teach to read. to try to vote, to look at a woman, to gather in groups of more than 3 or marry outside of race.  Or testify against a member of another race, who was bought and sold as chattel, to travel without permission of an employer, was legally separated from society. For centuries could be tortured and murdered without legal consequence to the killers.

The freeing of minds is indeed based within self, the rest may take a larger effort.

I just knew there would be a needless historical lecture forthcoming. That appears to be all you have to offer but all readers here know this stuff. 

 

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24 minutes ago, learningJ24 said:

The freeing of minds is indeed based within self, the rest may take a larger effort.

see why i love this place

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5 minutes ago, Blue Crab said:

I just knew there would be a needless historical lecture forthcoming. That appears to be all you have to offer but all readers here know this stuff. 

 

Nothing wrong with intake of good info.  Ol Pappy Sol was pushing 80 and still pulling near all-nighters reading any non fiction he could get his hands on because he “didn’t know everything [he] wanted to know yet.”  We can all learn. It’s one of the best things about this place. While there are those who are here to waste your time, there are just as many with something to offer. Give the time to those who aren’t here to waste it and ignore the others. 
 

On matters of race our conversations suffer from a distinct lack of a perspective, in that the overwhelming majority of us are lily white. That doesn’t mean we can’t gain that knowledge elsewhere and share it here. It’ll help us leave the place better than we found it when our time comes. 

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How in tarnation are you supposed to know whar to burn the crosses if’n they don’t provide the membership list, supremacist bullshitters? Thet ain’t jist unfar… it is SEW Unfar!

 

On November 13, 1957, Longview, Texas, Police Chief Roy Stone threatened four top-ranking NAACP officers—Reverend S.Y. Nixon, I.S. White, E.C. Hawkins, and Rance James—phoning each of the men at home and stating he would jail them if they did not produce NAACP membership records immediately. Chief Stone acted under the authority of a new Longview city ordinance that gave the City Manager the power to demand membership lists from any organization operating within the city’s limits, and to impose criminal fines for non-compliance. Within 24 hours, Chief Stone made good on his threat, arresting Mr. Nixon, Mr. White, Mr. Hawkins, and Mr. James, and detaining them in the city jail. Longview City Judge Henry Atkinson set bail at $200.

On October 9, the Texas NAACP announced plans to host the organization’s annual state conference in Longview. During planning meetings, local white officials refused to allow the Texas NAACP to convene in Longview unless they produced membership lists. During one meeting on October 23, white Longview journalist Carl Estes physically assaulted Field Secretary Washington and forced Black organizers out of his office after the NAACP declined to disclose confidential information about its members.

The following day, the Longview City Commission passed the mandatory disclosure ordinance targeting the Texas NAACP. Every city commissioner endorsed enforcement of the ordinance, knowing that requiring the NAACP to disclose its membership lists could have disastrous and deadly consequences to its members. On October 27, NAACP Field Secretary Washington announced plans to move the Texas annual conference to Dallas, considering “the pressures, threats, ugliness, and distress” that Black civil rights leaders faced in Longview.

Membership in the NAACP or participation in civil rights work often meant that Black people would be fired from their jobs, harassed by the police and become targets of vigilante violence and hate crimes. African Americans joined despite the threats because of their commitment to end racial inequality but the risks were real.

The passage of this ordinance in Longview led to the passage of a new state law, enacted in December 1957, modeled on the Longview ordinance, which authorized county judges to demand confidential records from civil rights organizations. In 1958, in NAACP v. Alabama ex rel Patterson, the U.S. Supreme Court declared these mandatory disclosure laws unconstitutional, as violative of the First Amendment right to freedom of association.

https://calendar.eji.org/racial-injustice/nov/13

 

This piece of shit murdered a young graduate student, and for what?
 

$100?

 

 

 

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Defend their people from what or more importantly, from whom?
 

 

Why won’t “Black Lives Matter” defend their people from the black gangbangers, thieves and drug pushers who are an exponentially greater threat to black lives in this country ?

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-lives-matter-leaders-threaten-190518490.html

“There will be riots, there will be fire and there will be bloodshed because we believe in defending our people.”

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Someone with some balls …

 

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/york-city-mayor-elect-eric-173925207.html

 

“the mayor-elect for New York City, is calling on his fellow Democrats to reject a Black Lives Matter activist’s threats that there would be “riots and bloodshed” if plainclothes policing is reinstalled in the city.

BLM activist Hawk Newsome made the threats during a meeting Wednesday with Adams, a former police officer who made a return to law and order a prime plank in his election campaign. Adams is New York City’s second Black mayor.”

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Look at that, supremacist bullshitters…going to school. Perhaps you should give it a whirl. 
 

White Mobs Violently Riot Against Six-Year-Old Ruby Bridges Integrating Elementary School

On November 14, 1960, four federal marshals escorted six-year-old Ruby Bridges to her first day of first grade as the first Black student to attend previously all-white William Frantz Elementary School in New Orleans, Louisiana. A riotous white mob organized by the local White Citizens' Council gathered to protest her arrival, screaming hateful slurs, threats, and insults.

In August 1955, African American parents in New Orleans, Louisiana, sued the Orleans Parish School Board for failing to desegregate local schools in compliance with the Supreme Court’s 1954 decision in Brown v. Board of Education. The following February, a federal court ordered the school board to desegregate the city’s schools. For the next four years, the school board and state lawmakers defied the federal court's order and resisted school desegregation.

On May 16, 1960, Judge J. Skelly Wright issued a federal order demanding the gradual desegregation of New Orleans public schools, beginning with the first grade—but the Orleans Parish School Board convinced Judge Wright to accept an even more limited desegregation plan, requiring African American students to apply for transfer into all-white schools. Only five of the 137 African American first graders who applied for a transfer were accepted; four agreed to attend, including six-year-old Ruby Bridges, who was the sole Black student assigned to William Frantz Elementary.

After getting past the angry white crowd to enter the school, Ruby arrived in her assigned classroom to find that she and the teacher were the only two people present; it would remain that way for the rest of the school year. Within a week, nearly all of the white students assigned to the newly-integrated elementary schools in New Orleans had withdrawn.

Despite threats and retaliation against her family, including her grandparents’ eviction from the Mississippi farm where they worked as sharecroppers, Ruby remained at Frantz Elementary. The next year, Ruby advanced to the second grade, and the school's incoming first grade class had eight Black students.

https://calendar.eji.org/racial-injustice/nov/14

 

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Sol, looks like you are assuming that posters here are unaware of this history of white violence on black people in the US. And younger folks may be are but we've established that most of us are well-seasoned. 

Perhaps your time might be better spent offering examples of the past legal attempts to right these wrongs. This is what sjw on the forum seem unaware of. These attempts and how they've played out may offer some inkling of why many vocal blacks are now saying they don't want or need handouts and other help that seems to suggest they cannot take care of themselves.

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5 hours ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Look at that, supremacist bullshitters…going to school. Perhaps you should give it a whirl. 
 

White Mobs Violently Riot Against Six-Year-Old Ruby Bridges Integrating Elementary School

On November 14, 1960, four federal marshals escorted six-year-old Ruby Bridges to her first day of first grade as the first Black student to attend previously all-white William Frantz Elementary School in New Orleans, Louisiana. A riotous white mob organized by the local White Citizens' Council gathered to protest her arrival, screaming hateful slurs, threats, and insults.

In August 1955, African American parents in New Orleans, Louisiana, sued the Orleans Parish School Board for failing to desegregate local schools in compliance with the Supreme Court’s 1954 decision in Brown v. Board of Education. The following February, a federal court ordered the school board to desegregate the city’s schools. For the next four years, the school board and state lawmakers defied the federal court's order and resisted school desegregation.

On May 16, 1960, Judge J. Skelly Wright issued a federal order demanding the gradual desegregation of New Orleans public schools, beginning with the first grade—but the Orleans Parish School Board convinced Judge Wright to accept an even more limited desegregation plan, requiring African American students to apply for transfer into all-white schools. Only five of the 137 African American first graders who applied for a transfer were accepted; four agreed to attend, including six-year-old Ruby Bridges, who was the sole Black student assigned to William Frantz Elementary.

After getting past the angry white crowd to enter the school, Ruby arrived in her assigned classroom to find that she and the teacher were the only two people present; it would remain that way for the rest of the school year. Within a week, nearly all of the white students assigned to the newly-integrated elementary schools in New Orleans had withdrawn.

Despite threats and retaliation against her family, including her grandparents’ eviction from the Mississippi farm where they worked as sharecroppers, Ruby remained at Frantz Elementary. The next year, Ruby advanced to the second grade, and the school's incoming first grade class had eight Black students.

https://calendar.eji.org/racial-injustice/nov/14

 

This kid was shot like a dog, by other blacks, just because they could.

And no, this travesty didn’t happen 50 years ago, it happened last week.

 

 

You cancerous race-baiting cunt you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 11/13/2021 at 7:24 AM, Sol Rosenberg said:

The passage of this ordinance in Longview led to the passage of a new state law, enacted in December 1957, modeled on the Longview ordinance, which authorized county judges to demand confidential records from civil rights organizations. In 1958, in NAACP v. Alabama ex rel Patterson, the U.S. Supreme Court declared these mandatory disclosure laws unconstitutional, as violative of the First Amendment right to freedom of association.

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If petitioner's rank-and-file members are constitutionally entitled to withhold their connection with the Association despite the production order, it is manifest that this right is properly assertable by the Association.

It was a great day for the rights of corporations for sure.

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Have we really learned our lessons? Banning books?

North Carolina Legislature Mandates Death Sentence for Repeated Dissemination of Anti-Slavery Pamphlet

 

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On November 15, 1830, North Carolina passed two laws designed to limit the influence of an anti-slavery pamphlet and discourage its dissemination, mandating the punishment of death for those who twice violated the law. About a year earlier, in September 1829, David Walker, a free Black abolitionist and activist living in Boston, Massachusetts, published An Appeal to the Coloured Citizens of the World. The anti-slavery pamphlet advocated for racial equality and called for free and enslaved Black people to actively challenge injustice, racial oppression, and the institution of slavery.

The Appeal was the first published document to demand the immediate and uncompensated emancipation of enslaved people in America. Mr. Walker also indirectly targeted his pamphlet to white readers, urging them to cease their inhumane treatment of enslaved people.

The pamphlet was quickly and clandestinely circulated among Black people, especially in the South, inciting anger among many white people and sometimes swift and harsh punishment. Jacob Cowan, a literate enslaved man in North Carolina, was sold “downriver” to Alabama after he was caught with 200 copies of the pamphlet for distribution to other enslaved people in the community. Copies of the pamphlet found by Southern officials were destroyed, the State of Georgia offered a bounty for Mr. Walker’s capture, and several Southern states—like North Carolina—eventually passed laws to further oppress both enslaved and free Black people.

Titled "An Act to Prevent the Circulation of Seditious Publications," North Carolina's first law banned bringing into the state any publication with the tendency to inspire revolution or resistance among enslaved or free Black people; a first violation of the law was punishable by whipping and one-year imprisonment, while those convicted of a second offense would “suffer death without benefit of clergy.”

The second law forbade all persons in the state from teaching the enslaved to read and write. A white person convicted of violating the law would be subject to a $100-200 fine or imprisonment; a free Black person would face a fine, imprisonment, or between 20 and 39 lashes; and an enslaved Black person convicted of teaching other enslaved people to read or write would receive 39 lashes.

https://calendar.eji.org/racial-injustice/nov/15

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A four-star SHERRIF? I've brought this uniform issue up before, and I can't cite a UN survey or anything but my hunch is that an attitude goes with stars and stripes and scrambled eggs and guns and sticks and tasers and cuffs and sprays and Sam Brownes n shiny shit...

What if we tried presenting police more like servers than protectors? Recall that TV trope: "Let's do it to them before they do it to us." The show may be gone but the attitude lingers on. 

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23 hours ago, Blue Crab said:

A four-star SHERRIF? I've brought this uniform issue up before, and I can't cite a UN survey or anything but my hunch is that an attitude goes with stars and stripes and scrambled eggs and guns and sticks and tasers and cuffs and sprays and Sam Brownes n shiny shit...

What if we tried presenting police more like servers than protectors? Recall that TV trope: "Let's do it to them before they do it to us." The show may be gone but the attitude lingers on. 

 

Stop militarizing them and see where that takes us. Build from there. They should be respected, not feared. Re respect, our local Sheriff in our little podunk redneck county clearly has aspirations for higher office. He, along with our new congresswoman and some other GOP sheriffs, have been spending their time at the southern border in Texas as part of the GOP’s Perception is Reality tour. I got no response from either of them when I asked if they ever visited the district they actually represent, and if they did they might have noticed that the local farmers bring brown people in by the literal bus load to do the work. It’s hard to respect bullshitters. But I digress. 
 

Speaking of respect for the law…. From this date in 1900…. Lynching. Burned at the stake. 

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On November 16, 1900, a 15-year-old Black teenager named Preston “John” Porter Jr. was burned alive while chained to a railroad stake in Limon, Colorado. A mob of more than 300 white people from throughout Lincoln County gathered to participate in the brutal public spectacle lynching.

Earlier in the year, Preston, his father, Preston Porter Sr., and his brother, Arthur Porter, moved to the Limon, Colorado, area from Lawrence, Kansas, to seek work on the railroad. When a white girl named Louise Frost was found dead in Limon on November 8, a search began for possible suspects. Newspapers reported that the Porter family had left Limon for Denver a few days after the girl was found dead, and white authorities focused suspicions on them. On November 12, all three were arrested and taken to the city jail in Denver.

During this era, the deep racial hostility that permeated American society burdened Black people and communities with presumptions of guilt and dangerousness when crimes were discovered. Allegations against Black people were rarely subject to serious scrutiny, and mere accusations of assault or violence by a Black person towards a white person often incited mob violence and the threat of lynching.

After the Porters had been in jail for four days, newspapers reported that Preston had confessed to the crime “in order to save his father and brother from sharing the fate that he believes awaits him.” Black suspects were often subjected to beatings, torture, and threats of lynching during police interrogations. While news reports often reported these confessions as justifications for the brutal terror lynchings that followed, the confession of a lynching victim was always more reliable evidence of fear than guilt.

Despite the Governor's order to not transfer Preston back to Lincoln County for at least eight days following Preston's confession, the sheriff of Lincoln County prematurely transported Preston by train from the Denver jail to return to Lincoln County. When the train stopped just outside of Limon, a mob of 300 or more people—including Louise Frost’s father—were waiting. Newspapers described the lynching as follows:

[Preston] was said to have been reading a Bible and was allowed to pray before his lynching. When the flames reached his body, reports documented his screams for help as he writhed in pain, crying, “Oh my God, let me go men!...Please let me go. Oh, my God, my God!” When the ropes binding [Preston] to the stake had burned through, such that his body had fallen partially out of the fire, members of the mob threw additional kerosene oil over him and added wood to the fire. It was reported that [Preston's] last words were “Oh, God, have mercy on these men, on the little girl and her father!”

Despite ample press coverage identifying multiple members of the mob, no investigation into the lynching was conducted and the coroner concluded Preston died “at the hands of parties unknown.” Following the lynching, Preston's father and brother left Colorado to return to Kansas and soon afterward the Colorado legislature voted to reinstate the state’s death penalty to avoid future “lawlessness” like the lynching in Limon.

Preston “John” Porter Jr. is one of more than 6,500 documented African American victims of racial terror lynching killed in the U.S. between 1865 and 1950, and one of five killed in Colorado.

https://calendar.eji.org/racial-injustice/nov/16

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11 hours ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Stop militarizing them and see where that takes us. Build from there. They should be respected, not feared. Re respect, our local Sheriff in our little podunk redneck county clearly has aspirations for higher office. He, along with our new congresswoman and some other GOP sheriffs, have been spending their time at the southern border in Texas as part of the GOP’s Perception is Reality tour. I got no response from either of them when I asked if they ever visited the district they actually represent, and if they did they might have noticed that the local farmers bring brown people in by the literal bus load to do the work. It’s hard to respect bullshitters. But I digress. 
 

Speaking of respect for the law…. From this date in 1900…. Lynching. Burned at the stake. 

https://calendar.eji.org/racial-injustice/nov/16

 

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On 11/16/2021 at 6:39 AM, Sol Rosenberg said:

Stop militarizing them and see where that takes us. Build from there. They should be respected, not feared. Re respect, our local Sheriff in our little podunk redneck county clearly has aspirations for higher office. He, along with our new congresswoman and some other GOP sheriffs, have been spending their time at the southern border in Texas as part of the GOP’s Perception is Reality tour. I got no response from either of them when I asked if they ever visited the district they actually represent, and if they did they might have noticed that the local farmers bring brown people in by the literal bus load to do the work. It’s hard to respect bullshitters. But I digress. 
 

Speaking of respect for the law…. From this date in 1900…. Lynching. Burned at the stake. 

https://calendar.eji.org/racial-injustice/nov/16

This day in history (and by that I mean in the last 24 hours) 4 black male thugs senselessly murdered an innocent black woman and seriously wounded her associate in a botched robbery attempt of an armored vehicle.

Later on in the day, two of the 4 black males murdered their accomplices.

 

 

 

I’m absolutely certain that Black Lives Matter will fill the streets in protest over this abhorrent crime spree any moment now.

 

What say you  Sol?

 

 

 

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