dorydude 196 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Who will sign up? https://www.crewseekers.net/opportunities/19486-sail-to-hawaii-and-philippines-from-california/?back_link=%2Fopportunities%2F%3Ftype%3D%26location%3D10%26qualification%3D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 3,437 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Ain't that the boat with the dude and the Filipino wife who was going to sail it, I dunno, 10 years ago, to the Philippines? She was crying as he left(solo), and he made it as far as Santa Cruz? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Great White 106 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 It does look like Tin Can, but with some mods to the main hull. If that is it, it was originally a wild idea by David Vann to sail non stop around the world. And yes, the welds started failing immediately and he quit at Santa Cruz. The location seems right, I saw it on the hard at Napa River Marina in 2010. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,224 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Man. I wish I were a millennial. I’d be all over this for the first 100 miles 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ExOmo 115 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I'd do the Napa to the City Front leg.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,421 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I'd do the first two miles. It might make it that far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marcjsmith 524 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 "unsinkable" yeah its it made out of metal, it can sink... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ROADKILL666 340 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 No way I would do it at my age.Now if I were 24 again maybe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Great White 106 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Here was Tin Can in 2010 after bailing on the round the world voyage that ended at Santa Cruz. And his blog: https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a3997/tincan/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 3,437 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Where's the undercover Napa reporter @bhyde? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Expat Canuck 70 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 16 hours ago, Great White said: It does look like Tin Can, but with some mods to the main hull. If that is it, it was originally a wild idea by David Vann to sail non stop around the world. And yes, the welds started failing immediately and he quit at Santa Cruz. The location seems right, I saw it on the hard at Napa River Marina in 2010. I wonder if the added blisters to the main hull are the parts "filled with foam". The cross beams look as dodgy as they did last time around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bhyde 1,371 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 53 minutes ago, Raz'r said: Where's the undercover Napa reporter @bhyde? Funny you should mention this. I was driving home two weeks ago and had to wait as the Mare Island draw bridge was lifting to let a boat through. And guess what boat it was? Yep, The Can! Heading south past Vallejo for the Carquinez Straights. There were two people on the boat, a man and a woman. The boat, if we are calling it that, has most definately been modified and I'm sure it's completely safe this time. Looks like a new cockpit layout (with Bimini and/or hard dodger) and the main hull has been widened. Lacking a current tetanus shot, I really didn't feel like getting any closer. I figured it was heading for the bay, and certain destruction, but the photo in the crew ad is actually the Antioch Marina Fuel dock. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Antioch+Marina+Harbor/@38.02008,-121.820199,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xa9201b0713ae0c9c!8m2!3d38.02008!4d-121.820199?hl=en I'll call the harbor master and see if it is still there. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bhyde 1,371 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Crap. The harbor master office closed due to Covid-19. Don't they know it's a hoax? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenmasterfred 450 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 20 hours ago, dorydude said: Who will sign up? https://www.crewseekers.net/opportunities/19486-sail-to-hawaii-and-philippines-from-california/?back_link=%2Fopportunities%2F%3Ftype%3D%26location%3D10%26qualification%3D Looks like the bow fell off and got pasted back on, What could possibly go wrong?? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bhyde 1,371 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, RogerWilco said: Those welds look like they were done by an 8th grade metal shop class. Having had the personal pleasure of seeing this bad boy up close, I can assure you, the welds aren't that good. What's really cool about the boat is it's complete lack of rocker in the main hull or amas. Handling and pitching moment in any kind of sea must be mildly amusing if not utterly terrifying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
commotion 17 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 We Canadians say "yeah...no". 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dorydude 196 Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 hours ago, zenmasterfred said: Looks like the bow fell off and got pasted back on, What could possibly go wrong?? Nothing says "No expense spared in preparing for a safe ocean voyage" like a blue polytarp mainsail cover. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ned 110 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I'd look at it, then go to SFO and board a PAL flight to Manila. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marcjsmith 524 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 hours ago, bhyde said: . What's really cool about the boat is it's complete lack of rocker in the main hull or amas. The straightest 2x4 in Home Depot has more rocker 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bhyde 1,371 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Couldn't find anyone at Antioch Marina to verify the current location of the Turbo Tin Can. I sent David Vann an e-mail and asked him if he had sold the boat or if he was going to give it another shot. He had the boat up for sale a couple of years ago, so I called him up at the time and asked what the deal was. He didn't seem overly eager to head back out and die, so maybe this is someone else with a really strong desire to drown. I'm having some trouble wrapping my head around an experienced offshore sailor wanting to use this boat for anything other than an artificial reef, and leaving for Hawaii from SF in July sounds particularly questionable considering the "washing machine" is set to heavily soiled pants mode right now, but what the fuck do I know. Once we figure out the location of the boat, I'll try to head over and get some pics and maybe a personal tour from the future u-boat captain. BTW: Has anyone seen HotRod lately? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Liquid 307 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 6 hours ago, RogerWilco said: Those welds look like they were done by an 8th grade metal shop class. When was that, the 80's? The good 'ol days... blue collar training in schools! Not so much now! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
apophenia 175 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 This is an enticing opportunity, but I'd feel bad if I knew that I was taking a seat away from someone who actually wanted to set foot on that abomination. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMB 323 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 On 7/10/2020 at 7:09 PM, Liquid said: When was that, the 80's? The good 'ol days... blue collar training in schools! Not so much now! Our local high school still has a manufacturing technology class that teaches 9th graders to weld. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlondeWithFreeBoat 61 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 On 7/10/2020 at 8:09 PM, Liquid said: When was that, the 80's? The good 'ol days... blue collar training in schools! Not so much now! Is that not a thing anymore? I was terrified of most of the machines in wood shop, doubly terrified of welding, but in retrospect I wish they offered more of that stuff! Far more useful in real life than I realized back then. ....also apparently useful for building weird trimarans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SailRacer 97 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 So, what would this tri do in a seaway? I imagine a cartwheel and the rest really does not matter. Sail Safe! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randii 91 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I have been at Napa Valley Marina a few times this year, as late a two months ago... she was on dry stands every time I went. Years of storage fees probably exceed her recycle/redemption value. :p FWIW, she's still visible on Google Earth satellite view, as well, but I trust the fella above that said she had been splashed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Latadjust 119 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Ok, I'm ready for the next tincan/thousand days/Remus dramedy, getting my favorite chair sorted, picking out the popcorn and adult beverage selection, can't wait...so I dare to click the link...this "vessel" is fitted out with a 50 HP Yamaha outboard, dive compressor and closed cell foam so it's unsinkable, ya! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bhyde 1,371 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 What. The. Fuck? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/d/napa-50-ft-aluminum-hull-huge-cabins/7160139588.html If I'm reading this right, the Tin Can's center hull has been converted into some sort of Condomaran at the Napa Marina. The amas are on the Tin Can II running around somewhere in the SF Bay or Delta. What the fuck are these people doing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 3,437 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, bhyde said: What. The. Fuck? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/d/napa-50-ft-aluminum-hull-huge-cabins/7160139588.html If I'm reading this right, the Tin Can's center hull has been converted into some sort of Condomaran at the Napa Marina. The amas are on the Tin Can II running around somewhere in the SF Bay or Delta. What the fuck are these people doing? Bizarro land Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bhyde 1,371 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 7 hours ago, Raz'r said: Bizarro land I'm pretty sure it's not going to float on its waterline. The main hull was already pretty sinky with just the "normal" configuration. Start adding a 65" TV and couple of Laz-e-Boys, and this thing is going to sit with the waterline about halfway up the back porch. There must be something in the water in Napa. Probably Merlot. Jesus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 3,437 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, bhyde said: I'm pretty sure it's not going to float on its waterline. The main hull was already pretty sinky with just the "normal" configuration. Start adding a 65" TV and couple of Laz-e-Boys, and this thing is going to sit with the waterline about halfway up the back porch. There must be something in the water in Napa. Probably Merlot. Jesus. Well, it's shallow up there, just weld on the jack stands! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Irrational 14 191 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 That thing has a built in tanning system. Genius. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
some dude 173 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Does it still feature a foredeck hatch below the waterline? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,421 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 On 7/16/2020 at 2:35 PM, some dude said: Does it still feature a foredeck hatch below the waterline? Oh, you mean the Underwater Viewing Port™? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LB 15 4,994 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Fuck I love this place! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 259 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 On 7/16/2020 at 6:18 AM, bhyde said: I'm pretty sure it's not going to float on its waterline. FIFY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 259 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Tin Can is multiplying... WTF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Godzilla 10 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 You guys already missed the boat this time. Vessel already set sail for Hawaii with three souls onboard, made it most of the way, had structural problems and called for rescue. All three were taken off the vessel and it was left adrift. There was even a tracker for the voyage. Don't know where and will not be looking. Coast Guard, good Samaritans rescue three mariners from sailboat in Pacific U.S. Coast Guard sent this bulletin at 07/10/2020 02:55 AM EDT News Release U.S. Coast Guard 14th District Hawaii and the Pacific Contact: 14th District Public Affairs Office: (808) 535-3230 After Hours: HawaiiPacific@uscg.mil 14th District online newsroom Coast Guard, good Samaritans rescue three mariners from sailboat in Pacific Editors' Note: Stock image HONOLULU — The Coast Guard and crew of the merchant vessel Mahi Mahi rescued three mariners from the disabled 50-foot trimaran Third Try 825 miles northeast of Oahu, Wednesday. The crew of the Mahi Mahi brought the mariners back to Honolulu Thursday afternoon. There are no reports of injuries. A hazard to navigation notice to mariners has been issued regarding the derelict trimaran. “One of our greatest challenges out here in the Pacific is distance,” said Lt. Diane French, a Joint Rescue Coordination Center (JRCC) command duty officer. “First responders are often days away and we regularly rely on merchant vessel crews like the Mahi Mahi’s to assist with search and rescue cases. We are always grateful for their help.” At 8 a.m., Tuesday, JRCC watchstanders received a report from a friend of the trimaran’s master stating the vessel had not made contact since Monday. The three mariners aboard were attempting a non-stop circumnavigation of the globe and their last known position was between California and Hawaii. JRCC watchstanders issued a SAFETYNET broadcast notifying merchant vessels in the region of the situation and spoke with the Third Try’s captain’s friend and family to ascertain the vessel’s intended route. Watchstanders also reached out to Automated Mutual-Assistance Vessel Rescue System (AMVER) ships in the area for assistance and the crew of the nearby Matson vessel Mahi Mahi agreed to divert and travel along the Third Try’s suspected route. At 3:01 p.m., Tuesday, JRCC Watchstanders received an alert from an Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon (EPIRB) registered to the Third Try. Watchstanders updated the SAFETYNET broadcast with the new location and launched an Air Station Barbers Point HC-130 Hercules aircrew with a life raft aboard in response. They also notified the Mahi Mahi crew of the new location. The Hercules aircrew arrived on scene and located the adrift Third Try. The aircrew reported the vessel had structural damage and had lost its rudder. The mariners were requesting to be removed from the vessel. At 3:33 a.m., Wednesday, the Mahi Mahi crew arrived on scene and successfully evacuated the three mariners from the Third Try. AMVER is a worldwide voluntary reporting system sponsored by the United States Coast Guard. It is a computer-based global ship-reporting system used worldwide by search and rescue authorities to arrange for assistance to persons in distress at sea. With AMVER, rescue coordinators can identify participating ships in the area of those in distress and divert the best-suited ship or ships to respond. Engaging in AMVER does not put ships under any additional obligation to assist in search and rescue efforts, beyond that which is required under international law. -USCG- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MR.CLEAN 3,853 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 phew. who knew? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 259 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Pretty good: 825 miles from Oahu. "It" left here 3 weeks ago? Is this thing called "Third Try"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlondeWithFreeBoat 61 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 5 hours ago, AnotherSailor said: Is this thing called "Third Try"? Seems the third try is not the charm! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 259 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 5 hours ago, BlondeWithFreeBoat said: Seems the third try is not the charm! Depends on what happened on # 1 and 2... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 259 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Anyone interested in buying "it": https://www.ebay.com/itm/50-ft-aluminum-sailing-trimaran/154040032922?hash=item23dd805e9a:g:I2oAAOSwt5hfMGjU So, they made it to Hawaii (towed it in after the rescue?). It has cracked beams and no rudder... oh and a king size bed. priorities! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Breamerly 77 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 7 hours ago, AnotherSailor said: Anyone interested in buying "it": https://www.ebay.com/itm/50-ft-aluminum-sailing-trimaran/154040032922?hash=item23dd805e9a:g:I2oAAOSwt5hfMGjU So, they made it to Hawaii (towed it in after the rescue?). It has cracked beams and no rudder... oh and a king size bed. priorities! Favorite line from the description: " US built with Coastwise endorsement on USCG documentation, so it's legal to use for charters. " I consider myself a fairly experienced, even jaded person, but the combination of self-regard and self-delusion some 'boat dreamers' manifest is just absolutely breath-taking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Godzilla 10 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Looks like they have some bidders. Let's see how high this goes. I would like to find out how they recovered the boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 259 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 18 hours ago, Godzilla said: Looks like they have some bidders. Let's see how high this goes. I would like to find out how they recovered the boat. On the recovery: perhaps the line "still works as a motorboat at 9 knots" is a clue? But shit yeah, would love to hear that story! The aluminum alone most be worth a bit (but I have no decent guestimate). It has a good outboard it seems. There is the watermaker and a dive compressor mentioned. Some anchors. In terms of other hardware etc, not sure, but if you are in the salvage business this could be attractive? Reserve price is 36 K Oh, interesting fact: the name of the Ebay seller is David. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
12 metre 389 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Outboard alone is almost worth the current bid price but I don't know if there is much demand for a 50 hp Hi Thrust, so I doubt it is has much resale value on the open market. But other than that, yeah there is stuff of value, but unlikely there is an individual wanting to buy all the stuff for their own use. Anyone wanting to buy the entire lot of stuff is only going to do it at a large discount, then break it up and sell the parts piecemeal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longy 539 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Very little (if any) value in scrap Aluminum out in HI - expensive to ship it to smelter. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Great Red Shark 402 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Sitting up in Haleiwa harbor at the moment I'm told. Strange days, my friends. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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TheDragon 575 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 300 parachute hurricane drogue They seriously thought there was a possibility they could survive a hurricane on that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWatson 32 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Is this a general "wtf is that" thread? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murphness 69 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 On 7/16/2020 at 1:17 AM, bhyde said: What. The. Fuck? https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/d/napa-50-ft-aluminum-hull-huge-cabins/7160139588.html If I'm reading this right, the Tin Can's center hull has been converted into some sort of Condomaran at the Napa Marina. The amas are on the Tin Can II running around somewhere in the SF Bay or Delta. What the fuck are these people doing? Can someone reach out to Hotrod V2 and get some details about how/why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 259 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 8 hours ago, DrWatson said: Is this a general "wtf is that" thread? No, this is a thread dedicated to the tin can's lives. There are already too many, way too many WTF's, so please don't make it even worse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 3,437 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 11:39 AM, AnotherSailor said: On the recovery: perhaps the line "still works as a motorboat at 9 knots" is a clue? But shit yeah, would love to hear that story! The aluminum alone most be worth a bit (but I have no decent guestimate). It has a good outboard it seems. There is the watermaker and a dive compressor mentioned. Some anchors. In terms of other hardware etc, not sure, but if you are in the salvage business this could be attractive? Reserve price is 36 K Oh, interesting fact: the name of the Ebay seller is David. It's gotta be the same guy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 259 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 If it is David Vann he will write about it. He has a lot of crazy ideas, but will also somehow try to turn these misadventures into somewhat digestible reading material. However, he is also working on an academic career. He can have some craziness in his life but not too much to mess up his cv, so unless the pandemic really got to him I have doubts that he would do this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 259 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Reserve still not met... bidding only up to 8K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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