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I am looking at possibly gettign a J88. i wonder if you guys have any experience on how they perform on IRC. They seem to give a lot of time to J 109's for example which we will be sailing against a lot. Do they plane really early in which case WL are favourable?

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4 hours ago, irlsailor said:

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I am looking at possibly gettign a J88. i wonder if you guys have any experience on how they perform on IRC. They seem to give a lot of time to J 109's for example which we will be sailing against a lot. Do they plane really early in which case WL are favourable?

On a plane they are fast and fun boats, but what wins races is mostly the best VMG.

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Haha this topic has been beaten to death amongst the UK fleet. Talking with regards to a well sailed J88...

sub 10kts you can win races under IRC against similar rated boats such as J109s, Elan 37, 40.7 etc. 
 

with a crew of 7 you need around 18+it’s of breeze to remain competitive on a W/L course, dynamic steering needed to get the boat downwind fast. 
 

when it’s honking you can almost be guaranteed a race win but need to commit to using an A2 spinnaker and not change down. 
 

the 88 could be raced well with a crew of 6, I would be tempted to reduce the jib size slightly but keep mainsail and spinnaker size the same. A Code 0 would be a weapon of a sail for coastal races.

On Saturday just gone we raced in the 35 mile Nab Tower race from Cowes and sailing 2 handed we won IRC class 1 in the J88. In a class of 34 finishers including 2 JPK 1180s, a J121, a few 111s, XP44, Corby 35, Sunfast 3600s, Sunfast 3300s, J122s, Ker 39s, MAT 12, J99 and a Cape 31 as well as many others. It was a light start and quite tactical but for the first 1/3 of the race we were the leading boat on the water despite being the shortest and 3rd lowest rated. We had no Code 0 in the inventory, where many others in our class did, which would have helped on one of the legs. It was lights airs downwind followed by 12-18kts of beam reaching and a 12-18kt beat home in a chop

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If your goal is to win major IRC events in the Solent, then there are boats that are competitive across a much wider range of conditions than the 88 for similar money.  

However if your goal is to own something that is a lot of fun when the wind is up and can win under IRC on its day, then the 88 would be a good option.  

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thanks for replies folks- That's what I thought. also seem to be a few build issues on J88 which is surprising as usually j boats are pretty good. 

 

I am looking for something which is competitive in a broad range of conditions. my price point is up to 100k sterling. I am not really interested in J109's but wouldn'et mind hearing some alternatives?

 

 

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https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/2011/jpk-1010-3665728/

https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/2014/jpk-jpk-10-10-3646658/

Might need some price negotiating.  But for Solent based IRC racing it's tough to think of a better bet for that sort of money.  

Plus then you'd get to play with us if you're Solent based.  And that would be good fun....

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