Renegade-27 7 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 I'm considering moving to a J97 from a larger cruising boat. Singlehanding and overall reduction in sail handling compared to a 35 footer is the objective. How does the J97 do under PHRF? I would be sailing with an older, cruising fleet scratch boat by at least 40 sec/mi, but there are also a ton of J80s around to race with. Thanks in sharing your experience! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Meat Wad 607 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 From 2015 So Cal PHRF, You can go to https://www.phrfsocal.org/the-boat-rating-process/ in the ratings menu go to the Rating Database and choose Look up by sail number. Then you can see all the info Sail Number GBR5997 Mfg Type J97 Area A1 (Santa Barbara) Designer JB Composites Year Built 2011 Hull No 33 Reg No 1243156 Course Type1 W/L RLC OWC Regional Rating 102 96 90 Area A1 Rating 102 96 90 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jackdaw 101 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I've wondered the same about the 97. Knowing the rating doesn't really help; its more about how it sails to them. I take solace in the fact that most j-boats do a pretty good job of sailing to PHRF numbers. But YMMV. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gracious 2 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Any other info out there on the 97 ? lm also interested in finding out how its rating has worked out. How many in the states? Thinking of moving to boat with interior space to cruise with the family. Currently J109 and J97e are on my short list. Moving from J-100 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sailingqueen200 6 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 I would also appreciate more info about the J97 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nubben 7 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 No idea about sailing under phrf but otherwise I have three seasons of experience so ready to answer some questions if needed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dacron 10 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 They sold so few of them in the US that there isn't a large body of PHRF results. I suspect they would be very competitive if sailed well. I've never been especially impressed with the way that I've seen them sailed, but they do OK even then. PHRF is in line with its other handicaps under IRC for example, and its a very competitive boat in that range under IRC. I really like them, especially the E version. Just stupid expensive for a 32 footer (in the US market, at least). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerseyguy 1,269 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Dacron said: They sold so few of them in the US that there isn't a large body of PHRF results. I suspect they would be very competitive if sailed well. I've never been especially impressed with the way that I've seen them sailed, but they do OK even then. PHRF is in line with its other handicaps under IRC for example, and its a very competitive boat in that range under IRC. I really like them, especially the E version. Just stupid expensive for a 32 footer (in the US market, at least). Agree. About the perfect size for a family cruiser and Wed. night PHRF boat. Saw a used one for sale for just under $200k. Uh, no thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Senator Seditious Maximus 383 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 The one here stinks up the race course compared with 105s, 80s, 24s, just about anything. Sad cuz it's truly pretty vessel. Under-canvassed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nubben 7 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 9/6/2020 at 2:00 AM, JimBowie said: The one here stinks up the race course compared with 105s, 80s, 24s, just about anything. Sad cuz it's truly pretty vessel. Under-canvassed? We have no problems beating 80´s on the water, no 105´s around. Compared to 109´s we are slightly slower upwind in DH setup(97 is perhaps a bit more sensitive for weight on the rail), slower on jib reaches due to waterline but equal downwind. In general she seems to sail up to her ORC handicap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Senator Seditious Maximus 383 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 12 hours ago, Nubben said: We have no problems beating 80´s on the water, no 105´s around. Compared to 109´s we are slightly slower upwind in DH setup(97 is perhaps a bit more sensitive for weight on the rail), slower on jib reaches due to waterline but equal downwind. In general she seems to sail up to her ORC handicap. What's your typical wind range? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nubben 7 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/7/2020 at 9:21 PM, JimBowie said: What's your typical wind range? Light wind in the Baltic sea. Today though 20kts breeze, outsailed J/80s and J/92s upwind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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