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The J/90 and J/125 are universally loved because so few people have sailed them.

The J/24 is universally loathed because so many people have sailed them.

That said, the people who sail J/24s are among the nicest people around. One even donated their boat to my school's sailing team. If anyone tries that shit again, I'll rename the boat Gom Jabbar.

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4 minutes ago, apophenia said:

The J/90 and J/125 are universally loved because so few people have sailed them.

The J/24 is universally loathed because so many people have sailed them.

That said, the people who sail J/24s are among the nicest people around. One even donated their boat to my school's sailing team. If anyone tries that shit again, I'll rename the boat Gom Jabbar.

There are 20 of the little soul-crushing pain boxes racing outside my window right now.  Such a terrible boat, people keep on sailing them all over the world a half century after they first launched. 

Idjits.  

Oh wait, I owned one too!

 

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6 minutes ago, apophenia said:

The J/90 and J/125 are universally loved because so few people have sailed them.

The J/24 is universally loathed because so many people have sailed them.

That said, the people who sail J/24s are among the nicest people around. One even donated their boat to my school's sailing team. If anyone tries that shit again, I'll rename the boat Gom Jabbar.

To be fair, I was joking with my post. Those are awesome boats, it’s just that no one bought them. 

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But first , you have to race a J 24...............

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25 minutes ago, apophenia said:

The J/90 and J/125 are universally loved because so few people have sailed them.

The J/24 is universally loathed because so many people have sailed them.

That said, the people who sail J/24s are among the nicest people around. One even donated their boat to my school's sailing team. If anyone tries that shit again, I'll rename the boat Gom Jabbar.

So true. Never sail the 125, but I sailed a 90 quite a bit. Awesome boat, but with something like six in existence, zero fleets. Hate to admit it, but the boat I drive 2 to 3 times a week is the 24. After all these years, it still is the biggest OD fleet we have. The boats are all equally slow and it really boils down to sailing, picking the next shift, etc, and crew work. It's great fun. A real love/hate relationship. 

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16 hours ago, Snaggletooth said:

J 34 (C?) lookes licke an IOR missteppe

problem with the J34 is that it took 10 people on the rail to go slower than a J35 or a J29. just painful all around.

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18 hours ago, Matagi said:

J/95 was a non-starter, sadly.

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But an awesome boat. Practical and fun.

 

15 hours ago, Navig8tor said:

"BDSM can be broken into three subcategories: Bondage/Discipline, Dominance/Submission, and Sadism/Masochism," Jean tells Elite Daily. "This is the overall umbrella under which most kinks fall. It can contain all elements or only one. BDSM holds no space for judgment."

But first , you have to race a J 24...............

Why would anyone pay a lady in leather to whip & beat you, when you can sail a J-24 instead?

Absolutely a pain box, with vermiculite as a bonus

FB- Doug

 

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1 hour ago, Steam Flyer said:

But an awesome boat. Practical and fun.

 

Why would anyone pay a lady in leather to whip & beat you, when you can sail a J-24 instead?

Absolutely a pain box, with vermiculite as a bonus

FB- Doug

 

The point I make is that after racing a J24 Paying a Lady in leather to whip and beat you would be a pleasant experience by comparison.

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My favorite is the J/125 and least favorite is the J/BDSM.  Below is my list of J boats I have raced on.  Missing more than a few including most of the new breed - 88, 111, 121, 122.

JY15
J/22
J/24
J/27
J/29 MHOB
J/29 MHIB
J/29 FOB
J/30
J/33
J/34 (3/4T)
J/35
J/37
J/40
J/41
J/44
J/47
J/70
J/80
J/92
J/92S
J/105
J/120
J/125
J/145

I think that is all of them.
MS

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22 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

J-28 - both the boat and the one here with the handle.

Ding! That was it. Thanks, Jon. Social distance drinking with some Annapolis sailors yesterday, and mentioned the 105 that Alarius has, and someone started on that's what they wanted next ... and it was on. I just couldn't come up with the J28 as the ugly duck. I haven't been on any of the bigger boats but I love the 24 meself. My old club had an active fleet.  As Varan noted,

... Hate to admit it, but the boat I drive 2 to 3 times a week is the 24. After all these years, it still is the biggest OD fleet we have. The boats are all equally slow and it really boils down to sailing, picking the next shift, etc, and crew work. It's great fun. A real love/hate relationship. 

PHRFect

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Retired BN said:
4 hours ago, 'Bacco said:

From J/Boats own website.

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It happens. 

Only to people who don't label the corners of their sails.

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5 hours ago, Mr. Squirrel said:

My favorite is the J/125 and least favorite is the J/BDSM.  Below is my list of J boats I have raced on.  Missing more than a few including most of the new breed - 88, 111, 121, 122.

JY15
J/22
J/24
J/27
J/29 MHOB
J/29 MHIB
J/29 FOB
J/30
J/33
J/34 (3/4T)
J/35
J/37
J/40
J/41
J/44
J/47
J/70
J/80
J/92
J/92S
J/105
J/120
J/125
J/145

I think that is all of them.
MS

Think you missed the J133...loved that boat! Wolf in sheeps clothing!

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On 8/18/2020 at 4:07 PM, Snaggletooth said:

J 34 (C?) lookes licke an IOR missteppe

Snaggs brotha...the 34c is really a well built well appointed fast cruiser. The 34 is the joe missteppe 

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except for the fact that the 109 more or less can't completely outsail a J35 which is 20 years her junior, I've never heard much hate about the 109. Personally, they are my favorite racer/cruiser J boat going.

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I got an earful from a J37 I think shoal draft.   The boat then the Shoal Draft.  Now it was only one owner so unless anyone else here wants to rant keep this in mind. 

 

Say this with a Russian Accent

" All Jboats good boots,  No bad J Boats ever!" 

 

As for sales the J112 sold one boat.   

 

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On 8/19/2020 at 8:18 AM, bloodshot said:

problem with the J34 is that it took 10 people on the rail to go slower than a J35 or a J29. just painful all around.

This and the 28, (same "Cruiser/Racer lineage) was a total pig.  Not many were ever able to figure out the 27.

Now the 33 was a rocket and 29 MOB model well sailed was very hard to beat in PHRF.  Surprisingly the 22 is a great PHRF boat too.

 

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On 8/19/2020 at 5:18 AM, bloodshot said:

problem with the J34 is that it took 10 people on the rail to go slower than a J35 or a J29. just painful all around.

I'm not sure why people focus on LOA in judging the J/34.

The 34 wasn't designed to be a fast 34 footer - it was designed to be a fast 3/4 Ton.  Big difference.  The 35 and 29 would both rate higher under IOR,  so it would be expected they would be faster.  Back then IOR was the only thing that really mattered in anything resembling serious handicap racing.  And level class racing was also something you don't see today other than maybe the TP52s

Mind you, it doesn't sound like the 34 was a particularly fast 3/4 Ton either.  But probably faster than some slightly earlier generation 3/4 Ton pintails.  Lighter with more horsepower.

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