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I have no connection to this boat- just a listing that popped up in my feed.  Seems like a lot of boat- almost Santa Cruz 50 speed for a lot less money.  PHRF is 9 for a stock boat?  I know lots of folks will hold the Carroll build against it but just curious if this seemed reasonable.  Anyone know or been on the boat?  TIA

 

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1992/---3698866/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_-P8997c6wIVUhP5AB1cXQ6FEAEYASACEgKQWfD_BwE

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Raced against it for some years, and there's a back-story as to why it stopped sailing - I don't recall the story, but there always is one. 

Sails to about a +20 to +30 rating.  A lot of boat and and a lot of crew horsepower required.  

Never heard about any build problems, and with a refit would make a nice fast cruising boat.  For serious racing, it would need a lot of effort.

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There was one in Chicago, Deep Powder IIRC.  Buddy Melges was aboard one night and they had an override on a winch and the Einstein's decided to grind it off.  As Buddy put it, I was about to say something when the winch came loose and clocked the guy.  Somebody here probably has a first hand report.   

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1 hour ago, Alaris said:

9 is not that fast for a 47 footer with those lines. I imagine without looking up ratings that the SC 50 & 52 would be significantly faster. 

SC50 base rate in NorCal is "0"

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"92 build was probably OK, before BC really started cutting corners to save money/weight

I'm personally know of a couple BC boats (Farr 395s & a NM 43) which have had to cut out and replace all the balsa core.  Time and time again I hear the issue was the boat was spec'd with 3 layers of glass on the inside.  Only built with one layer......

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All the discussion seems to revolve around whether or not the boat can compete at the top level.

Obviously not - it's almost 30 years old.

But - if it isn't hugely needy it's a hell of a lot of fast boat for small money.

That price wouldn't even be the sales tax on a comparable size new boat.

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20 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

All the discussion seems to revolve around whether or not the boat can compete at the top level.

Obviously not - it's almost 30 years old.

But - if it isn't hugely needy it's a hell of a lot of fast boat for small money.

That price wouldn't even be the sales tax on a comparable size new boat.

Yes, I’m in more than the purchase price on my Andrews, yet there’s no boat I would trust as much, and it’s still less than $100k. And it’s quick enough.

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7 hours ago, Alaris said:

My brain has been ruined by newer boats. I’m not used to near 50 or 50+ footers anywhere near 0. 

Even sailing around +20 speed, the Tripp 47 is faster under sail than almost any cruising boat out there.  So it could be a rewarding ride.

It's hard to remember how slow boats, even race boats, were back in the dawn of the PHRF.  A "0" rating was assumed to be as fast as a sailboat could go, and it pretty much was until the late 80s.  Then the SC 70's started to show up and the IOR maxis wanted to beat up on the little people. PHRF was not set up to handle them.

Now a TP52 rates -90 in the PNW (Not saying that is correct, just what it rates.) and people speculate that the AC 50s should rate -400 +/- or so.  

But PHRF ToT still uses +168 as the baseline rating for their conversion formula, last I looked.  (BTW, multiplying one approximation by another approximation does not improve accuracy.)

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15 hours ago, Left Shift said:

But PHRF ToT still uses +168 as the baseline rating for their conversion formula, last I looked.  (BTW, multiplying one approximation by another approximation does not improve accuracy.)

It''s not often I laugh from the gut so thank you.  Anyone worth a shit is doing one-d.  

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On 9/12/2020 at 1:35 PM, SloopJonB said:

All the discussion seems to revolve around whether or not the boat can compete at the top level.

Obviously not - it's almost 30 years old.

But - if it isn't hugely needy it's a hell of a lot of fast boat for small money.

That price wouldn't even be the sales tax on a comparable size new boat.

This boat would smoke and and probably sniff the ass of a Santa Cruz 50 and then pass it for less than 100k  , not much of a cruiser though .

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/boats-marine/yachts/keeler/listing/2775322923?bof=Pjmi4kze

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On 9/10/2020 at 11:12 PM, boatcat65 said:

I have no connection to this boat- just a listing that popped up in my feed.  Seems like a lot of boat- almost Santa Cruz 50 speed for a lot less money.  PHRF is 9 for a stock boat?  I know lots of folks will hold the Carroll build against it but just curious if this seemed reasonable.  Anyone know or been on the boat?  TIA

 

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1992/---3698866/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_-P8997c6wIVUhP5AB1cXQ6FEAEYASACEgKQWfD_BwE

I was wondering when or if this boat would go on the market. It has been moored in Poulsbo for many years not being used. 

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On 9/13/2020 at 1:56 AM, 44forty said:

This boat would smoke and and probably sniff the ass of a Santa Cruz 50 and then pass it for less than 100k  , not much of a cruiser though .

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/boats-marine/yachts/keeler/listing/2775322923?bof=Pjmi4kze

I bet sailing that is like roulette; everyone on the rail gets a turn down below tacking Satan's finger.

You can't afford this boat unless you can also afford the permanent professional escort vessel necessary to pluck all of the survivors from the water.

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7 hours ago, Dogfish4255 said:

I bet sailing that is like roulette; everyone on the rail gets a turn down below tacking Satan's finger.

You can't afford this boat unless you can also afford the permanent professional escort vessel necessary to pluck all of the survivors from the water.

Frank Camas sailed this boat in the groupama 600 but got beaten by an Elliot canter ....they didn’t lose any crew over the side  or break anything . but he didn’t say it was enjoyable either ! 

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