voodoochile 41 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 What's up? Site is down. Hope they're still in business. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roleur 514 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Got a quote from them a week ago for an emergency rudder. All seems well from the back & forth we've had. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solosailor 609 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I also had back and forth and quotes from them a week ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryley 682 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 facebook page was updated 3 days ago... probably forgot to pay their hosting bill. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voodoochile 41 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 Thanks guys. My buddy Mayo needs some rudder work! Got t-boned and the side force did this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alaris 183 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Whoa Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voodoochile 41 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 Here's the "bone" hole. A crew gal in the back of the boat fell into the cockpit and wrapped her leg under or around the tiller, compound fracture. It was a port/starboard, other boat tacked to clear and main trimmer failed to dump the main...breeze was in the high teens/low 20's. The boat is (was) a pristine Farr/Dickerson 37 . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUBBY 446 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 That'll take a lot of buffing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ROADKILL666 531 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 A little duct tape and it’s good to go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shorthanded 740 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 @voodoochile, they might also consider Larry Tuttle at WaterRat. He built our SR 33 rudder and we were very happy with it. I think he has also done the Express 37 rudder. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slick470 238 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 hours ago, voodoochile said: Here's the "bone" hole. A crew gal in the back of the boat fell into the cockpit and wrapped her leg under or around the tiller, compound fracture. It was a port/starboard, other boat tacked to clear and main trimmer failed to dump the main...breeze was in the high teens/low 20's. The boat is (was) a pristine Farr/Dickerson 37 . Ouch. Please send our condolences to Mayo and his injured crew. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voodoochile 41 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Shorthanded said: @voodoochile, they might also consider Larry Tuttle at WaterRat. He built our SR 33 rudder and we were very happy with it. I think he has also done the Express 37 rudder. Thanks Bob. Mayo has both contacts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silent bob 1,256 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Also, check with 40 Grit at Finco. http://www.fincofab.com/rudders.php 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SailRacer 123 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Can you just bend the rudder shaft back? I know that may never be possible. I have seen some prop shafts done that way to the 100000th MM or so. (In professional Boatbuilder mag) . Sail safe! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steph2ma 5 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Leroi-thanks for the leads on the rubber assembly. Bob-this is Mark from the Eluthera Race. The injured crew gal is my wife Melissa. Hope all are well. Sail safe. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shorthanded 740 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, steph2ma said: Leroi-thanks for the leads on the rubber assembly. Bob-this is Mark from the Eluthera Race. The injured crew gal is my wife Melissa. Hope all are well. Sail safe. Oh man, sorry to hear that. Hope all is well and that she is on the mend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gspot 270 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 On 9/27/2020 at 5:34 AM, voodoochile said: Thanks guys. My buddy Mayo needs some rudder work! Got t-boned and the side force did this 1 hour ago, SailRacer said: Can you just bend the rudder shaft back? Sure, just re-install the rudder and T-bone the other side of the boat! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voodoochile 41 Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, steph2ma said: Leroi-thanks for the leads on the rubber assembly. Bob-this is Mark from the Eluthera Race. The injured crew gal is my wife Melissa. Hope all are well. Sail safe. Hey Mark. Yea, I didn't want to use real names. I sent her an email, may have had the wrong address. Glad you're following the thread, there are several good rudder people and a shaft re-alignment may be a possibility. We're all pulling for a speedy recovery. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steph2ma 5 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 L-Many thanks. Not yet sure what will happen with rudder/shaft. Thanks for the well wishes on the recovery. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUBBY 446 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Hope the damage to your wife was less serious and quicker to fix than the rudder. Any wife that will race on a boat with her husband is a keeper and should be cared for at all times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Retired BN 10 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Mark, sorry to hear about Melissa. Hope she heals up quickly. Miss those Youngstown days with the two of you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Little Wood Boats 49 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 On 9/28/2020 at 3:19 PM, gspot said: Sure, just re-install the rudder and T-bone the other side of the boat! An alignment jig and a press would be easier. The shaft section we can see is not difficult to straighten. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krikkitman 11 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Straightening is certainly a possibility, but it can (I'm told) also create stress points that might cause unexpected failure (read "sudden departure of the rudder from the boat") down the line. From that point of view, provided it's the insurance company paying, it might be worth insisting on new. It adds a few weeks to the process, but from the looks of things the rudder will likely be built and delivered before the boat itself is finished being repaired. Ruddercraft in Idaho did good work for me when my rudder got bust up by one of the West Coast's notorious deadhead logs (the impact bent the shaft and spilt open the top of the blade). https://ruddercraft.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rico 33 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 My instinct is insurance + Peter in Whitby for the hull + Phil and team in Ottawa for the rudder. Thoughts and best wishes to the injured as most important. This isn't a contact support. Take care out there please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryley 682 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 fwiw the site is back up http://cci.one/site/marine/foils-a-z/?doing_wp_cron=1601569412.3745429515838623046875 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gspot 270 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 13 hours ago, krikkitman said: Straightening is certainly a possibility, but it can (I'm told) also create stress points that might cause unexpected failure (read "sudden departure of the rudder from the boat") down the line. From that point of view, provided it's the insurance company paying, it might be worth insisting on new. I think there's already a stress point from the discontinuity in tube thicknesses which I would be concerned about - the tube should ideally be the same thickness throughout IMHO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
basketcase 793 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 12 hours ago, rico said: My instinct is insurance + Peter in Whitby for the hull + Phil and team in Ottawa for the rudder. Thoughts and best wishes to the injured as most important. This isn't a contact support. Take care out there please. Peter at custom yacht builder would be an awesome choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
12 metre 652 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 A problem with straightening a bent shaft is that once bent, it has gone beyond elastic strain into plastic strain. So work hardening. has taken place, which increases the yield stress but decreases ductility. In other words, you end up with a more brittle shaft once straightened. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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