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Quick Thoughts after Day 1:   Race 1:  The Kiwi’s completely dominate Italy.  Better start, faster boat, better maneuvers, better everything.  Instant reaction is it is tough to believe that

Learnings for TVNZ live coverage? DON'T RUN THE FUCKING ADS THROUGH THE PRE-START/START!!!!! Muppets. 

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6 minutes ago, The_Alchemist said:

gotta love Been when he was told he had a penalty!!!

I'm surprised he didn't jump off the boat, swim over to the umpire and punch him out.

That's what olympic champions do right?

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4 minutes ago, Nutta said:

If Rita was a horse, the gun would have the mercy bullet loaded already.

Not loaded, discharged already.

That race reminded me of race 5 of the second preliminary round in Bermuda when BAR limped towards the bottom mark at about 3 knots.

Alistair Eikyn came out with this s real pearler: "break out the chess board, they're done".

Unbelievably they seem to have a worse boat than in 2017.

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9 minutes ago, jaysper said:

Unbelievably they seem to have a worse boat than in 2017.

That’s an achievement. It’s the worst British AC boat in decades. Jim Ratcliffe the sponsor and owner of Ineos must be hopping  mad. Surely he can’t allow his reputation to be so tarnished. He needs to put someone in charge who is better than Bumbling Ben. A drunken, aids infected whore could do a better job. At least she knows how to fuck something properly. 

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I think Rita unfortunately is a great metaphor for Britain acting like it is an island entire in itself. 

The boat atmosphere also reminds me of Bermuda aboard Land River BAR. “Not great. Not terrible.” The French had more spirit despite the late entry. 

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9 minutes ago, jaysper said:

I feel sorry for everyone but Ben.

He has reconfirmed himself as a classless prick.

Nick Holroyd the head designer , also must take some blame. Was hiring a ETNZ reject a good idea ?

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On 12/17/2020 at 3:07 PM, Forourselves said:

Commercials were ridiculously timed, Yes, but in terms of knowledgeable commentary, Pete Lester and Phil Robertson are far better than Shirley and Ken. The Kiwi commentary team are discussing jib trim, mainsail/ wing trim, twin skins, skegs and how they work, sail area, endplate effect and how and why all those aspects work together to make the boat go fast. They talk about where the winches are located, deck and cockpit layout, foil shapes, why and how they work, as well as knowing who the guys are in the boats.

They just need to sort their shit out with commercial timing.

 

The races runs overtime, TVNZ stops the race coverage, lucky we still have the International feed available on YouTube and AC website, can't just count on the TVNZ coverage alone without backup.

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2 minutes ago, Barnyb said:

Breaking!:

Viagra announces much needed sponsorship for INEOS.

Sir Ben said the new sponsorship should help Rita  'get it up'!

The last thing Rita needs is an erect appendage causing additional drag...

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GB with real prob getting on the foil. Commentators are suggesting low lift from profile.

I'd also like to know the wetted area whilst in displacement, as I don't think GB's would look too good compared to others?

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5 minutes ago, mako23 said:

Nick Holroyd the head designer , also must take some blame. Was hiring a ETNZ reject a good idea ?

Of course he must. Clearly he was made to shine by the rest of the ETNZ group.

However I was talking about who I have sympathy for and it is a short list: not Ben.

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5 minutes ago, fish7yu said:

 

The races runs overtime, TVNZ stops the race coverage, lucky we still have the International feed available on YouTube and AC website.

I have no fucking idea why anyone would watch the tvnz feed.

I've never even attempted to watch it cos I just knew it would be typically shit.

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1 minute ago, jaysper said:

I have no fucking idea why anyone would watch the tvnz feed.

I've never even attempted to watch it cos I just knew it would be typically shit.

YouTube + VirtualEye. Seems best option...

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2 minutes ago, jaysper said:

I have no fucking idea why anyone would watch the tvnz feed.

I've never even attempted to watch it cos I just knew it would be typically shit.

Pete Lester has a bit more inside information, and it is also nice to get additional commentary from Phil Robertson, Chris Steele etc.

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6 minutes ago, fish7yu said:

Pete Lester has a bit more inside information, and it is also nice to get additional commentary from Phil Robertson, Chris Steele etc.

Sounds to me like it would be a bit like scratching your nuts with an angle grinder.

Sure, you don't notice they're itchy any more but was it really worth the extra hassle?

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4 minutes ago, terrafirma said:

Basically what we are seeing is the Kiwis are so fast no matter the conditions and they don't come off the foils too often. Scary to think they have all that go fast kit waiting too.!

 

COURSE CHANGE AFTER LEG 4..

They all do.

Other than INEOS sucks, we haven't learnt much.

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Race wind range is a joke.

3 minutes ago, terrafirma said:

Basically what we are seeing is the Kiwis are so fast no matter the conditions and they don't come off the foils too often. Scary to think they have all that go fast kit waiting too.!

What race are you watching.

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I enjoyed it. When they fall off the foils it resets the race and tactically they have to consider risk reward of a bad tack or gybe. I don’t know why some think the low wind range isn’t representative because it’ll likely be several days like this in March.

3 teams have realistic shot of beat each other on any given day. And that’s an improvement over past cycles. 

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33 minutes ago, jaysper said:

Sounds to me like it would be a bit like scratching your nuts with an angle grinder.

Sure, you don't notice they're itchy any more but was it really worth the extra hassle?

Well, why not, I watch International feed on big screen, TVNZ coverage on the Pad, running VirtualEYE feed on my Notebook, the complete package.

This is a development class, always hungry for more information.

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Options for INEOS? Not a lot - looks nice - R.N. could use it as a Fisheries protection boat in the channel perhaps.... Earlier post nailed it with "The French showing more spirit"...... Lady just said a suitable name change for INEOS.... Now to be known as Team MEH!.....

For the 1st time in my life I felt a twinge of sympathy fopr Jimmy & the Handbags - How many of us have been screwed by random, missed windshifts?..... Must ring the Dr's this morning, very concerning those random twinges of sympathy......

 

More of the same tomorrow by the looks.......

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16 minutes ago, phill_nz said:

i love it when they drop off the foils and it's a dead in the water situation epic loss

when they are still going as fast as the 12m's ever did

This. There was some genuine tension when ETNZ and LR were both off foils doing 7kts. Who could get back up...

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1 minute ago, Aquila11 said:

So how light does it need to be for the code zeros to come out??

I think the code 0 only makes sense in situations where a touchdown would be inevitable in maneuvers.  The extra area should help the takeoffs but isn't at all beneficial once the boat is foiling. 

I wonder how draggy the zero is when it's furled?

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7 minutes ago, Aquila11 said:

So how light does it need to be for the code zeros to come out??

Interesting no cz in that last race. They both knew the wind was sketchy, does this mean that we won’t see them at all?

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1 minute ago, amc said:

Interesting no cz in that last race. They both knew the wind was sketchy, does this mean that we won’t see them at all?

I think the code zero won’t come out until February/March when you get the consistent light conditions on the new foils. 

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4 minutes ago, timz3818 said:

I think the code 0 only makes sense in situations where a touchdown would be inevitable in maneuvers.  The extra area should help the takeoffs but isn't at all beneficial once the boat is foiling. 

I wonder how draggy the zero is when it's furled?

but that could just be a seesaw event.  Enough sail to get up on the foils easier, too much sail and they fall off.  Up, Down, Up Down.....

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1 minute ago, Miffy said:

I think the code zero won’t come out until February/March when you get the consistent light conditions on the new foils. 

Quite possibly but it would have been an opportunity for ETNZ to see how it goes in anger. 

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1 hour ago, Miffy said:

I think Rita unfortunately is a great metaphor for Britain acting like it is an island entire in itself. 

The boat atmosphere also reminds me of Bermuda aboard Land River BAR. “Not great. Not terrible.” The French had more spirit despite the late entry. 

The more I think about it the more I hope UK can find someone with more grace and enthusiasm and leadership qualities and unyielding spirit to front a campaign. Frank Cammas struggled with the boats in Bermuda as a late campaign, he was nursing a nearly amputated leg. And his team still showed more grit and positivity and grace than Land Rover BAR. 

Who should that Briton be? 

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4 minutes ago, Miffy said:

The more I think about it the more I hope UK can find someone with more grace and enthusiasm and leadership qualities and unyielding spirit to front a campaign. Frank Cammas struggled with the boats in Bermuda as a late campaign, he was nursing a nearly amputated leg. And his team still showed more grit and positivity and grace than Land Rover BAR. 

Who should that Briton be? 

How about, ATR? His VG days are prolly done.

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