pironiero 10 #1 Posted November 28, 2020 Guys, can you tell me the names or upload pics of the boats with most fattestest tumblehomes,please For aesthetic purposes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROADKILL666 326 #2 Posted November 28, 2020 The fastest boat is the one behind a truck doing 75mph Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matagi 795 #3 Posted November 28, 2020 That is the weirdest fetish I have ever heard of... But please... That is a Koster K 25, Sweden 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Crab 1,064 #4 Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, pironiero said: fattestest tumblehomes I loves me some fat-ass (for aesthetic use only): 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,106 #6 Posted November 28, 2020 3 hours ago, pironiero said: Guys, can you tell me the names or upload pics of the boats with most fattestest tumblehomes,please For aesthetic purposes Ranger 37? Ranger 28... higher ratio of tumblehome to unit length, perhaps The R37 is a beautiful boat. I lusted for one of those, for decades. I tried to find one of the racing pics of 'Munequita' back in the day but google is not helpful this morning FB- Doug 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,112 #7 Posted November 28, 2020 Uffa Fox flying lifeboat has a little of what your looking for Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,112 #8 Posted November 28, 2020 And of course, the Atlalanta 26 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,204 #9 Posted November 28, 2020 Catalina 38... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NaClH20 76 #10 Posted November 28, 2020 wiseass, I know.... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SF Woody Sailor 346 #12 Posted November 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: The R37 is a beautiful boat. FB- Doug I never thought I would hear anyone utter this phrase. Did you ever sail one downwind in a blow? The R37 was possibly the worst behaved IOR boat of all time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weightless 491 #13 Posted November 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, SF Woody Sailor said: 3 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: The R37 is a beautiful boat. I never thought I would hear anyone utter this phrase. Did you ever sail one downwind in a blow? The R37 was possibly the worst behaved IOR boat of all time. Just because two strong people hauling on the tiller couldn't keep the old Munequita from rounding up over and over again I never found her homely -- though she was tumblehomely for sure. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,106 #14 Posted November 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, weightless said: 36 minutes ago, SF Woody Sailor said: 3 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: The R37 is a beautiful boat. I never thought I would hear anyone utter this phrase. Did you ever sail one downwind in a blow? The R37 was possibly the worst behaved IOR boat of all time. Just because two strong people hauling on the tiller couldn't keep the old Munequita from rounding up over and over again I never found her homely -- though she was tumblehomely for sure. Sorry, I never sailed one, I meant "beautiful" in terms of visual aesthetic only. I have seen them sailing and they are real water-dozers, for sure FB- Doug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apophenia 162 #16 Posted November 28, 2020 Charles Martel, shown with whisker poles deployed before setting sails to run DDW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12 metre 371 #17 Posted November 28, 2020 Most of Stephen Jones early Half Ton designs, circa 1972. i.e. Demolition, Supernova, Smiffy and the aptly named Tumblehome 2 which Ish has a plan view photo above. Below are Tumblehome 2 and Smiffy (past and present): 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SF Woody Sailor 346 #18 Posted November 28, 2020 30 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said: Sorry, I never sailed one, I meant "beautiful" in terms of visual aesthetic only. I have seen them sailing and they are real water-dozers, for sure FB- Doug So I guess you like this sort of thing? Weirdo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,106 #19 Posted November 28, 2020 26 minutes ago, apophenia said: Charles Martel, shown with whisker poles deployed before setting sails to run DDW. Yes, yes.... how could we forget these FB- Doug 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SF Woody Sailor 346 #20 Posted November 28, 2020 37 minutes ago, apophenia said: Charles Martel, shown with whisker poles deployed before setting sails to run DDW. How fast does she go in reverse? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grande Mastere Dreade 2,179 #21 Posted November 28, 2020 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 25 #22 Posted November 28, 2020 7 hours ago, Sail4beer said: And of course, the Atlalanta 26 Is that what that is? We had one on our bay years ago and nobody knew what in the hell it was! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisher 38 #23 Posted November 28, 2020 Charlie Morgan’s 30/2, 33t and 36t have some junk. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slick470 144 #24 Posted November 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Sorry, I never sailed one, I meant "beautiful" in terms of visual aesthetic only. I have seen them sailing and they are real water-dozers, for sure FB- Doug I wanted one for a long time and I still think they are beautiful, especially Yankee. I never found one nearby for sale that wasn't a huge project, otherwise I might have ended up with one. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,354 #25 Posted November 28, 2020 My old QT Fred Again didn't have tumblehome, it had major flare instead but it was a fatty - 9 1/2 ft beam on a 26' LOA 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Left Shift 2,768 #27 Posted November 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Sorry, I never sailed one, I meant "beautiful" in terms of visual aesthetic only. I have seen them sailing and they are real water-dozers, for sure FB- Doug Not a believer in "Form follows function" then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zenmasterfred 421 #28 Posted November 29, 2020 9 hours ago, Ishmael said: She is in beautiful restored condition, museum quality. Very cool/. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weightless 491 #29 Posted November 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, Left Shift said: Not a believer in "Form follows function" then? Seems to me that the function of a recreational sailboat is enjoyment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,106 #30 Posted November 29, 2020 23 minutes ago, Left Shift said: 7 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Sorry, I never sailed one, I meant "beautiful" in terms of visual aesthetic only. I have seen them sailing and they are real water-dozers, for sure Not a believer in "Form follows function" then? Well, if the function was to win a sailboat race or three, then that work out fine The broachiness only comes into play when you try to drive it downwind faster than the water wants to let it go. Back off the throttle, and everything is fine. I owned a '70s broach coach for a while, it was fun FB- Doug 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VWAP 975 #31 Posted November 29, 2020 9 hours ago, SF Woody Sailor said: So I guess you like this sort of thing? Weirdo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bridhb 533 #32 Posted November 29, 2020 Is there a reason for tumblehome (the boat kind, not the ass kind) other than measurement rules? Some of the IMOCA 60's and the modern style copycats seem to have tumblehome in the bow, if that is what it is still called. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALL@SEA 259 #33 Posted November 29, 2020 Doven 30s had more tumblehome than anything else around here when I was growing up. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SF Woody Sailor 346 #34 Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, bridhb said: Is there a reason for tumblehome (the boat kind, not the ass kind) other than measurement rules? Some of the IMOCA 60's and the modern style copycats seem to have tumblehome in the bow, if that is what it is still called. On French warships it allowed more armor at the waterline which helped while retreating. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somebody Else 637 #35 Posted November 29, 2020 12 hours ago, Ishmael said: I don't know the designer but I can guaranty it's British. English designers of IOR boats produced the ugliest, most distorted boats in the thousands of years history of things that float. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,354 #36 Posted November 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, Somebody Else said: I don't know the designer but I can guaranty it's British. English designers produced the ugliest, most distorted boats in the thousands of years history of things that float. FTFY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pironiero 10 #37 Posted November 29, 2020 22 hours ago, ROADKILL666 said: The fastest boat is the one behind a truck doing 75mph not fastest, FATtest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pironiero 10 #38 Posted November 29, 2020 22 hours ago, Matagi said: That is the weirdest fetish I have ever heard of... But please... That is a Koster K 25, Sweden holy fuck, she's beautiful, or he? how do you 'muricans call sailboats? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pironiero 10 #39 Posted November 29, 2020 20 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Ranger 37? Ranger 28... higher ratio of tumblehome to unit length, perhaps The R37 is a beautiful boat. I lusted for one of those, for decades. I tried to find one of the racing pics of 'Munequita' back in the day but google is not helpful this morning FB- Doug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pironiero 10 #40 Posted November 29, 2020 18 hours ago, Ishmael said: Catalina 38... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pironiero 10 #41 Posted November 29, 2020 17 hours ago, Ishmael said: lol wtf? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pironiero 10 #42 Posted November 29, 2020 16 hours ago, 12 metre said: Most of Stephen Jones early Half Ton designs, circa 1972. i.e. Demolition, Supernova, Smiffy and the aptly named Tumblehome 2 which Ish has a plan view photo above. Below are Tumblehome 2 and Smiffy (past and present): oof that first one, so good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pironiero 10 #43 Posted November 29, 2020 16 hours ago, SF Woody Sailor said: So I guess you like this sort of thing? Weirdo. nah, i like my girls skinny and compact, easier to carry this way =^) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pironiero 10 #44 Posted November 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Somebody Else said: I don't know the designer but I can guaranty it's British. English designers of IOR boats produced the ugliest, most distorted boats in the thousands of years history of things that float. you spell it wrong, pal, its Bri'ish 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matagi 795 #45 Posted November 29, 2020 2 hours ago, pironiero said: holy fuck, she's beautiful, or he? how do you 'muricans call sailboats? No soy 'muricano. Soy DEUTSCH a she. with very few exceptions. There is a boat called 'Peter von Seestermühe', formerly 'Peter von Danzig'. It is always referred to as 'Der Peter', so a 'he'. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 1,040 #46 Posted November 29, 2020 8 hours ago, SloopJonB said: 8 hours ago, Somebody Else said: I don't know the designer but I can guaranty it's British. English designers produced the ugliest, most distorted boats in the thousands of years history of things that float. FTFY Have you never heard of Brent Swain ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12 metre 371 #47 Posted November 29, 2020 11 hours ago, bridhb said: Is there a reason for tumblehome (the boat kind, not the ass kind) other than measurement rules? Some of the IMOCA 60's and the modern style copycats seem to have tumblehome in the bow, if that is what it is still called. IOR rule was a factor in it - but not that much. Mainly just a trend IOR designers went through for a couple of years in the early 70's - because it disappeared very quickly. You would be hard pressed to find an IOR boat with tumblehome designed after about 1974. Tumblehome 2 was in the '78 HTC - but she was a 5-6 year old design at that point. Jones more recent designs at the '78 HTC- mainly the Hustler 32s were similar in overall concept but didn't have the tumblehome or the reverse bow. There were quite a few Hustler 32s at the HTC that year with Smokey Bear finishing second behind Waverider. I recall reading an article by one of the designers at the time saying that tumblehome was intended to reduce the heeled waterline beam and make the underwater shape less asymmetrical - reducing wave drag and weather helm (I guess it was thought to favourably shift the CLR a bit too - IDK). Of course on the downside, it would tend to move the CB inward as you progressively heeled- reducing the righting arm. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VWAP 975 #48 Posted November 29, 2020 5 hours ago, pironiero said: nah, i like my girls skinny and compact, easier to carry this way =^) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bridhb 533 #49 Posted November 29, 2020 ^^^^^.....Oh man does that bring back memories! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pipe Dream 72 #50 Posted November 29, 2020 18 hours ago, ALL@SEA said: Doven 30s had more tumblehome than anything else around here when I was growing up. I love a good Tassie photo! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oceanconcepts 173 #51 Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/28/2020 at 4:11 AM, Matagi said: That is the weirdest fetish I have ever heard of... But please... That is a Koster K 25, Sweden Interesting and strikingly attractive. Hard to tell from the photo angle, but it looks less like there is tumblehome in the hull form and more as if what would have been side decks were inflated to meet the gunnels. Must provide a big increase in volume below. I do wonder what it would be like to step off when coming alongside a dock. Potentially a bit slippery? My own Pathfinder has a bit of tumblehome. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Left Shift 2,768 #52 Posted November 30, 2020 9 hours ago, 12 metre said: IOR rule was a factor in it - but not that much. Mainly just a trend IOR designers went through for a couple of years in the early 70's - because it disappeared very quickly. You would be hard pressed to find an IOR boat with tumblehome designed after about 1974. Tumblehome 2 was in the '78 HTC - but she was a 5-6 year old design at that point. Jones more recent designs at the '78 HTC- mainly the Hustler 32s were similar in overall concept but didn't have the tumblehome or the reverse bow. There were quite a few Hustler 32s at the HTC that year with Smokey Bear finishing second behind Waverider. I recall reading an article by one of the designers at the time saying that tumblehome was intended to reduce the heeled waterline beam and make the underwater shape less asymmetrical - reducing wave drag and weather helm (I guess it was thought to favourably shift the CLR a bit too - IDK). Of course on the downside, it would tend to move the CB inward as you progressively heeled- reducing the righting arm. There were CCA hulls that also had tumblehome, not just IOR. However, I would seriously doubt that the possession of a tumblehome hull form was ever responsible for a sailboat winning a race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Left Shift 2,768 #53 Posted November 30, 2020 19 hours ago, Somebody Else said: I don't know the designer but I can guaranty it's British. English designers of IOR boats produced the ugliest, most distorted boats in the thousands of years history of things that float. The Swedes gave it their best shot, however, with the Vasa. Which had all the tumblehome a fetishist could ask for and floated for about a minute after it was launched. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senator Seditious Maximus 364 #54 Posted November 30, 2020 The fattest of the fat monohull made in the modern era: I present for your viewing pleasure and whatever gets your YaYas off: KZ-1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senator Seditious Maximus 364 #55 Posted November 30, 2020 1988 America's Cup. Probably the most lop-sided fcked-up regatta ever held. Conners beat the Chumps from Down Under 4-0. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SF Woody Sailor 346 #56 Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, JimBowie said: The fattest of the fat monohull made in the modern era: I present for your viewing pleasure and whatever gets your YaYas off: KZ-1 I don’t think you know what tumblehome is. It doesn’t mean wide. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sledracr 623 #57 Posted November 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, JimBowie said: 4-0. 2-0 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldur 60 #58 Posted November 30, 2020 11 hours ago, TwoLegged said: Have you never heard of Brent Swain ? BS designed an IOR boat? I dont think his boats follow any box rules, nor any rules at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senator Seditious Maximus 364 #59 Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, sledracr said: 2-0 So I was twice as right? Or twice as wrong? YOU decide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senator Seditious Maximus 364 #60 Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, SF Woody Sailor said: I don’t think you know what tumblehome is. It doesn’t mean wide. Woody beam is defined as maximum width at deck level from stem to stern. I believe he was asking for a broad-assed gal and this more than meets the criteria. Don't go get all techy on me.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senator Seditious Maximus 364 #61 Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, JimBowie said: Woody beam is defined as maximum width at deck level from stem to stern. I believe he was asking for a broad-assed gal and this more than meets the criteria. Don't go get all techy on me.... BTW staring at my profile pic can you identify which is Beavis and which is Butthead? It's a tough one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sledracr 623 #62 Posted November 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, JimBowie said: So I was twice as right? Or twice as wrong? Just wrong (lol). The 1988 Cup was sailed under the Deed of Gift, which - if the contestants can't agree on another format - is a best-two-of-three series. Only two races were needed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MauiPunter 727 #63 Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/28/2020 at 1:03 PM, Slick470 said: I wanted one for a long time and I still think they are beautiful, especially Yankee. I never found one nearby for sale that wasn't a huge project, otherwise I might have ended up with one. That boat is gorgeous. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44forty 163 #65 Posted November 30, 2020 That actually looks ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buck Turgidson 77 #66 Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/29/2020 at 7:54 AM, SloopJonB said: FTFY err Kim Holmans ghost begs to differ: 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thorpecameron 7 #67 Posted November 30, 2020 6 hours ago, JimBowie said: The fattest of the fat monohull made in the modern era: I present for your viewing pleasure and whatever gets your YaYas off: KZ-1 I think this beats it for beam as a percentage of length.... Overall length of 29 feet 10 inches (a smidgen over 9m), she is 14 feet 7 inches (4.4 m) at max beam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
European Bloke 454 #68 Posted November 30, 2020 3 hours ago, thorpecameron said: I think this beats it for beam as a percentage of length.... Overall length of 29 feet 10 inches (a smidgen over 9m), she is 14 feet 7 inches (4.4 m) at max beam Sometimes you have to read the original post before you start writing. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 1,040 #69 Posted November 30, 2020 10 hours ago, Baldur said: 21 hours ago, TwoLegged said: Have you never heard of Brent Swain ? BS designed an IOR boat? I dont think his boats follow any box rules, nor any rules at all. I was replying to a post in which the ref to IOR had been removed. See below On 11/29/2020 at 6:54 AM, SloopJonB said: On 11/29/2020 at 6:39 AM, Somebody Else said: I don't know the designer but I can guaranty it's British. English designers produced the ugliest, most distorted boats in the thousands of years history of things that float. FTFY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Sox 723 #70 Posted November 30, 2020 8 hours ago, JimBowie said: So I was twice as right? Or twice as wrong? YOU decide. 50% Which is, coincidentally, 50/85 of 85% complete. What makes it really spooky is that of those two numbers, both are not 42!!! Hidden meanings or what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackolantern 462 #71 Posted November 30, 2020 Van Ki Pas 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Q 447 #72 Posted November 30, 2020 Ok scaled down a bit but.. The Merlin Rocket dinghy, 14ft long 7ft 3 inches wide.. Link to this builders website HAZARDOUS series Merlin Rockets by Keith Callaghan (bluelightning.co.uk) 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,112 #73 Posted November 30, 2020 Ok, since I’ve hopefully preserved my credibility by producing the pics of Take and Gary Jobson chinning and grinning, would you believe that my mentor sailor friend who’s helped me with my sail plans on the Turbo Ensign and Gauntlet is planning a Merlin design main for his X-21, which is as turbo’d as I though it could get?! Told me and the twin just yesterday! Really long sentence, however, he wants a fathead but doesn’t want the full top batten to interfere with rolling the sail to the boom for storage. Go the Merlin!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,112 #74 Posted November 30, 2020 How about Dudley Dix’s Shearwater39 for tumble home? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buck Turgidson 77 #75 Posted November 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, The Q said: Ok scaled down a bit but.. The Merlin Rocket dinghy, 14ft long 7ft 3 inches wide.. Link to this builders website HAZARDOUS series Merlin Rockets by Keith Callaghan (bluelightning.co.uk) zero tumblehome. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
'Bacco 91 #76 Posted November 30, 2020 No tumblehome, but the Shock 35 is a Fatty McFatfat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ctutmark 237 #77 Posted November 30, 2020 Minis have to be on the list- a boat that is 6.50m long and 3m wide 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,112 #78 Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Buck Turgidson said: zero tumblehome. That deserves a black mark for Twolegged? Yet you approved of the Red boat? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matagi 795 #79 Posted November 30, 2020 I christen thee [dramatic pause] 'Brazilian Butt' [sound of a bottle of self-tanning lotion bouncing off the hull]. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buck Turgidson 77 #80 Posted November 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Sail4beer said: That deserves a black mark for Twolegged? Yet you approved of the Red boat? Someone got there before me. But I see the whole thread is off topic now so meh.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KC64000 13 #81 Posted November 30, 2020 My favourite.... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,112 #82 Posted November 30, 2020 Of course! Nice shot!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny Dumas 277 #83 Posted November 30, 2020 As usual, Wiki has a good introduction. 1906 warships: Good sea behavior for passage making but poor stability in battle from flooding. My guess due to lack of reserve buoyancy and less righting moment with more submersion. Same problem as over driving a sailboat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,354 #84 Posted November 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, KC64000 said: My favourite.... That boat epitomized everything that was wrong with the IOR. I mean seriously - you have to have one of the top riggers in the world onboard just to keep the rig standing? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apophenia 162 #85 Posted November 30, 2020 5 hours ago, ctutmark said: Minis have to be on the list- a boat that is 6.50m long and 3m wide 3:1? Ha! Try 1:1! https://www.telegraphindia.com/7-days/the-ark-that-finkel-built/cid/1669418 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pironiero 10 #86 Posted December 1, 2020 18 hours ago, Sail4beer said: How about Dudley Dix’s Shearwater39 for tumble home? nice ass, almost zero tumblehome 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matagi 795 #87 Posted December 1, 2020 24 minutes ago, pironiero said: nice ass ...and what a rack... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
On The Hard 358 #88 Posted December 1, 2020 Ranger 37 has always been sexy to me, no matter how hard they are to sail. One of my favorite pics, even if it doesn't show off the tumblehome that well 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
On The Hard 358 #89 Posted December 1, 2020 Max tumblehome pic 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites