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1 hour ago, sailman said:

Buying a boat is easy...what can you put into an annual race budget?

10 to 20% (max) of the boat value.
it really depends on the amount of regattas We'll put in it. 
This is in the optics of owning a competitive boat to race local regattas and once or twice a year do something different.
A boat we can push but also one were We can spend some time aboard, not 100% regatta focused.

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53 minutes ago, luis silva said:

10 to 20% (max) of the boat value.
it really depends on the amount of regattas We'll put in it. 
This is in the optics of owning a competitive boat to race local regattas and once or twice a year do something different.
A boat we can push but also one were We can spend some time aboard, not 100% regatta focused.

And where is this 'local'?

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The absolute best for class B is the Club Swan 42, the hull shape is for some reason very favored by the ORCi rule and makes it rate very very good. At the ORCi Worlds 2019 the Club Swan 42's in class B were all in the top, https://data.orc.org/public/WEV.dll?action=series&eventid=WORLDS19&classid=BOtherwise the X-41 is also a very good class B boat, but not good with asymmetric spinnakers and will also be beaten by the Club Swan 42.

One more plus with the Swan is that you also can take part in the Swan regattas, like the Rolex Swan Cup and other Swan exclusive races ;) 

 

 

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Swan 42 is probably very hard to come by for that price range.

There is a King 40 in Italy, from Mark Mills, the designer of the Landmark 43, that is some good pedigree there, for 159 TEUR.

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Or a Sly 42, maybe? (shouldn't that read '43?). With carbon mast. 165 TEUR.

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1 hour ago, Frick said:

The absolute best for class B is the Club Swan 42, the hull shape is for some reason very favored by the ORCi rule and makes it rate very very good. At the ORCi Worlds 2019 the Club Swan 42's in class B were all in the top, https://data.orc.org/public/WEV.dll?action=series&eventid=WORLDS19&classid=BOtherwise the X-41 is also a very good class B boat, but not good with asymmetric spinnakers and will also be beaten by the Club Swan 42.

One more plus with the Swan is that you also can take part in the Swan regattas, like the Rolex Swan Cup and other Swan exclusive races ;) 

 

 

yeap, those are exactly my thougths. 
I'd like to see if there are other options; 
the Sly 42 is similar in specs (no so aggressive) and boat shape and overall design but I've never seen them doing regattas and I'd like to see if someone has some experience with them.

 

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5 hours ago, luis silva said:

10 to 20% (max) of the boat value.
it really depends on the amount of regattas We'll put in it. 
This is in the optics of owning a competitive boat to race local regattas and once or twice a year do something different.
A boat we can push but also one were We can spend some time aboard, not 100% regatta focused.

200K you can buy a lot of carbon bikes and not have to deal with douche bag crew members

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57 minutes ago, jesposito said:

200K you can buy a lot of carbon bikes and not have to deal with douche bag crew members

You have never been in a group ride of Mamils, have you?

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On 12/14/2020 at 7:45 AM, Matagi said:

And where is this 'local'?

On 12/14/2020 at 7:59 AM, luis silva said:

Europe, Spain. Maybe some regattas in the UK

Getting a boat from Spain to the UK must be a bit tough.

I can't even get it together to get a my boat by water or trailer, 155 miles to San Diego and that is the straight line.

 

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20 minutes ago, Meat Wad said:

Getting a boat from Spain to the UK must be a bit tough.

I can't even get it together to get a my boat by water or trailer, 155 miles to San Diego and that is the straight line.

 

You could do it in a Laser.

Technically.

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On 12/14/2020 at 6:57 PM, Matagi said:

Swan 42 is probably very hard to come by for that price range.

There is a King 40 in Italy, from Mark Mills, the designer of the Landmark 43, that is some good pedigree there, for 159 TEUR.

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Or a Sly 42, maybe? (shouldn't that read '43?). With carbon mast. 165 TEUR.

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Weerga (King 40)  was owned by friends. it's sold! 

the boat was partly optimized for cruising in the last years.

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On 12/14/2020 at 4:18 PM, Matagi said:

You have never been in a group ride of Mamils, have you?

I have, but I can ride away from them and don't need them to ride, you need the crew to sail the boat 

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On 12/15/2020 at 7:26 PM, Meat Wad said:

Getting a boat from Spain to the UK must be a bit tough.

I can't even get it together to get a my boat by water or trailer, 155 miles to San Diego and that is the straight line.

 

? Not that hard. 500 to 600 nm. It's one time a year thing.

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On 12/14/2020 at 4:18 PM, ropetrick said:

Cool.

I remember looking at Hustler's transom every race at Key West in 1992.

Good times.

What boat were you on?

Lot's of great times and memories over 25 plus years, wouldn't trade it for anything.

Just the last 2 years, I got burnt out doing all the work myself and having to deal with crew personalities. 

 

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28 minutes ago, jesposito said:

What boat were you on?

Lot's of great times and memories over 25 plus years, wouldn't trade it for anything.

Just the last 2 years, I got burnt out doing all the work myself and having to deal with crew personalities. 

 

That's called getting old......you lose patience. Not like you ever had any.......

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41 minutes ago, jesposito said:

What boat were you on?

Lot's of great times and memories over 25 plus years, wouldn't trade it for anything.

Just the last 2 years, I got burnt out doing all the work myself and having to deal with crew personalities. 

  

Like having someone turn into a crybaby during a race week?

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22 minutes ago, Squalamax said:

That's called getting old......you lose patience. Not like you ever had any.......

LMAO

True to that

Old and Zero patience

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1 hour ago, jesposito said:

What boat were you on?

Lot's of great times and memories over 25 plus years, wouldn't trade it for anything.

Just the last 2 years, I got burnt out doing all the work myself and having to deal with crew personalities. 

 

Hobie 33   H-Bomb  "Good to the last drop"

On Friday we lost the rig in a collision with a C&C 40.

Flyweight vs heavyweight was no contest.

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20 hours ago, ropetrick said:

Hobie 33   H-Bomb  "Good to the last drop"

On Friday we lost the rig in a collision with a C&C 40.

Flyweight vs heavyweight was no contest.

I remember that collision.

Always loved the lines of the Hobie 33 

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