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It was an odd time the late IOR period. Fantastic fleets, great racing and many beautiful looking boats that were absolute cunts of things to sail. Back them most  owners actually knew how to sail and

Having renovated an IOR 1-tonner, I feel obliged to point out that there are way cheaper ways to get a tidy boat on to a start line

Big Wheels,  yep.  I sailed an 80 foot Maxi that had a pump on the wheel well because it went below the waterline! Lots of winches,  why no cleats or jammers,  none had been developed capable of

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20 hours ago, Rain Man said:

According to my feed, this just popped up.  Apologies if it has been posted before.  The price is off by about 100K I think:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3882526911868974/

Can it be ex Camouflage?: "Geraghty is also working on more Frers 45’s like Camouflage and 'hopes to do some work with the new design firm of Jim Pugh and John Reichel, both of. whom were formally with Doug Peterson.", see: https://issuu.com/latitude38/docs/latitude3876ocunse?fbclid=IwAR3dnQIh-TaqK__P97QPvdJd8Zr4bkgQj-Dsf4xtiu5EoDfge3hxG5QLeKE

 

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16 hours ago, cill123 said:

Ron Holland 2 tonner that was for sale.  Not sure what she was in her former life. Nice looking conversion job to a cruiser 

 

https://www.uwjachtmakelaar.nl/en/sailboat/173042/ron-holland-42-ior-2-ton-cup/

"Nice looking conversion job to a cruiser", Yes, it seems to be a solution for these yachts. One example: "He sold Hero Brava to a guy in Gavle north of Stockholm back in 2019. He motored up there and put her on the hard for preparations to build a cruising interior and hit the seven seas. However he’s still in the planning phase", see: https://www.facebook.com/groups/203537404677541/permalink/260773602287254

 

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17 hours ago, cill123 said:

Ron Holland 2 tonner that was for sale.  Not sure what she was in her former life. Nice looking conversion job to a cruiser 

 

https://www.uwjachtmakelaar.nl/en/sailboat/173042/ron-holland-42-ior-2-ton-cup/

Another example of cruising conversion, old link (probably passe') just for showing an example: "Jiminy Cricket for sale in Sweden after a rather heavy handed cruising conversion.
http://www.blocket.se/stockholm/Farr_36_50305471.htm?ca=15&w=3", see: http://rbsailing.blogspot.com/2013/05/jiminy-cricket-and-45-south-ii-farr-one.html

More info:

http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/One Tonner/OFa 43 Jimini C.htm

 

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On 4/17/2021 at 11:49 PM, stief said:

Dafydd Hughes to help a S&S 34 leave the barn . . . for a solo RTW.

https://p5rpoey5bio3hdtvrzuj5aqo5a-ac4c6men2g7xr2a-globalsolochallenge.translate.goog/dafydd-hughes/

Nice renovation plans of a S&S 34. Obviously a famous type of yacht: https://bluewaterboats.org/sparkman-and-stephens-34?fbclid=IwAR3jmgAg_IgFn6GHLSR4Ew4xkDcMws7QfQN_tF6-yf6t-RUE3G6vJv7Fxm0

 

 

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1 hour ago, stief said:

And not so nice . . .  sad

Yea, sad: "Eerie pictures show abandoned pink yacht left to rot and covered in mould 10 years after it was used by Jessica Watson to sail around the world"

 

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5 hours ago, LordBooster said:

Pretty certain the Fast 310 is a knockoff of the Kirie Elite 30R.  Like they make a knockoff of the Nicholson 345

Kirie made 3 or 4 variants of the Briand design (based on Freelance)

Below is an old Kirie promo photo with a Feeling 850, Elite 30R, and Freelance in the background.

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Regatta photo of Horizon half-tonner, designed by Ichiro Yokoyama, at All Japan Middle Boat Championship 2019, 2:nd of 7 yachts in Class: IRC-C

Kan vara en bild av en eller flera personer, personer sysslar med båtracing, segelbåt och hav

https://bulkhead.jp/2019/06/66427/?fbclid=IwAR3P4yA8-fws5AqNbgIVyMwG-yXh-1BQ2SrycJlgb2HU6yicfwV5_Fl8uYk

Translate of link above: "<HORIZON> continues to ride the famous boat YOKOHYAMA30 in the IOR era. The mother is the Bengal team, a long racer representing Japan. photo by Junichi Hirai"

 

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I always liked the look of those boats. A 1/2 Tonner version would have suited me very well.

I believe the Gougeon built "Hot Flash" was just that.

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3 hours ago, oioi said:

Raced Showdown back in the day,  saw her rotting outside a pub in Cornwall 10 (??) Years ago.  Now yours for 99 pence.  :(

Sad. Similar for http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Trois Quart/Scenario Act 2.htm?fbclid=IwAR2rIS-iVzsNRmHlby2-3MVdm6mSvZRLdzaxMTxmDBKg_3qRnhyijq3KWwA

Caring hands needed. Warm hearted new owner is welcomed by the present owner Nic Crellin:

Ingen fotobeskrivning tillgänglig.Kan vara en bild av fordon

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Regatta photo of Raven 3/4-tonner designed by Joe Byars. 2:nd at the 3/4-ton cup -74. Note bowsprit

Kan vara en bild av 1 person, båtracing och jordens vatten

"Raven was kick ass fast... Joe had it rated IOR 3/4 Ton and took it to the first 3/4 Ton World Championship in Miami in 1974. The crew included Joe, Bill Maclemurry, Mark Ploch, Tommy Meyer, and "The Commodore" Dick Deaver from San Francisco.", see: https://www.facebook.com/johnnymac1777/posts/raven-joe-byars-ca-1969-morc-maxi-30-rater-and-three-quarter-ton-raven-was-kick-/1858031921091112

Raven US 3503 Byars 9,14m avec bout dehors! 1974 TQTC, Miami: ?-2-5-3-1 = 2e/10;, see: http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Trois Quart/Trois Quart tonner Liste.htm?fbclid=IwAR3QDq8zBt_d_GGRaKnHqFW6LRd8qhgKPthw8AbG628jURZCYFuKjyuMszM

Kan vara en bild av båtracing och segelbåt

 

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58 minutes ago, LordBooster said:

Nice renovation work of quarter-tonner Quadriga designed by Judel / Vrolijk, built -78 Michelsen Werft Bodensee

https://www.match-center.de/wp-content/uploads/quadriga_verkauf.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2fgehOmSYLwvTFtgQDn8w9v9Sy3vO5OOfQZX9NIdx8sRWtfqkWN8ltyEw

 

Very undistorted hull for the time.

I really don't like that detail where the hull, cockpit side and cockpit sole meet at the transom.

The lack of any "dimension" there looks like a major stress riser

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Rassker Magnum, 35' from -87 designed by Magnus Rassy

Ingen fotobeskrivning tillgänglig.

Google translate of link below: "Specially built Rassker Magnum
In 1987, another experimental boat designed by Magnus Rassy, the 35-footer Rassker Magnum, was built. This boat was also a success in terms of racing, with class victories in Tjörn Runt and a total position in place 6 of just over a thousand boats, just before Sweden's then sailing elite who prepared for the America's Cup in the R12s Kookaburra and New Sweden, but got to see beaten by a few seconds by Rassker Magnum. The boats Rassker and Rassker Magnum were nothing for Hallberg-Rassy to put into series production, but gave many useful lessons about what future Hallberg-Rassy boats would look like and would not look like. Many things these boats were first out with are found in today's Hallberg-Rassy boats. At the same time, they understood the importance of a proper keel hog and an easy-to-handle rig, which these boats did not have. A few years later, as a result of the experience with Rassker Magnum, came the slightly revolutionary Hallberg-Rassy 34.", see: https://www.hallberg-rassy.com/sv/varvet/varvets-historia/?fbclid=IwAR1rJVRu4zD09MmII62Cpd2orejQQtjP-6jzrWv-KNG9ey5TTkBuW6QqeTI
 
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4 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

The lack of any "dimension" there looks like a major stress riser

Yes, important to think about when one do renovations. If one wants to go for smaller dimensions than the original (that worked), one should check with the designer(s) of the yacht.

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On 4/22/2021 at 12:42 AM, 12 metre said:

Pretty certain the Fast 310 is a knockoff of the Kirie Elite 30R.  Like they make a knockoff of the Nicholson 345

Kirie made 3 or 4 variants of the Briand design (based on Freelance)

Below is an old Kirie promo photo with a Feeling 850, Elite 30R, and Freelance in the background.

Agree. Found this ad today: Kirie Feeling 850 Special from -88, designed by Philippe Briand

Kan vara en bild av båtracing och hav

https://www.blocket.se/annons/goteborg/valseglande_segelbat_med_fin_boendekomfort/95347261?fbclid=IwAR00PoQAWYlpTxEqErxA3VS501gDy_wGvH8SbQfAzgZ3F8TroSRlChhx7xw

Google translate of link: "Description
Feelenig 850 special
French shipyard sailboat from Kirie shipyard. The boat is from 1988.
Easy to sail on a small crew that everyone has fallen is pulled down to the cockpit.
Nice performance with a light of 1.14
Good living comfort with double berth in the stern and separate toilet.
Above: a u-sofa and double berth in the forepeak.
My partner and I have owned the boat for 7 years and updated a lot over the years.
The mainsail has only been sailed 14 days since we bought it new.
Facts:
Length 31 feet, (9.21m)
Width. 3.20m
Displacement 2.8 tons
Depth 1.75m
Engine
Volvo Penta Mod 2001 (9hp)
Foldable propeller
The engine has run like clockwork under our ownership. Annually change oil, filters etc.
Sail
Both mainsail and Genoa are in cruising laminate.
The store is in very good condition.
Genoa is in perfect condition.
Rullgenua.
Spinnaker that is only the user a handful of times, fine condition.
Most of the fallen and the Genoa shot are in the dunes.
Kitchenette:
Two-burner gas stove with oven
Sink with electric pre-water pump
Cooling compartment isothermal
Technical equipment:
B&G GPS plotter purchased in 2019
Radio bluetooth purchased 2020
Speakers inside and out
Vhf
2nd consumable batteries purchased in 2018
1st starter battery purchased in 2020"
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5 hours ago, Serge A. Storms said:

Saw the old ROBIN in Portsmouth RI yesterday-   Pretty sure she was/is a Ted Hood one-tonner?

Looked sad...  It was a cold, grey, rainy day.  That kinda day....

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Steve white needs to pick that up and do a spec refurb up at BBY. 

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17 hours ago, Serge A. Storms said:

Saw the old ROBIN in Portsmouth RI yesterday-   Pretty sure she was/is a Ted Hood one-tonner?

Looked sad...  It was a cold, grey, rainy day.  That kinda day....

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That's sad...last time I saw Robin was in a slip at Hood's yard.  My father used to have a Hood 38 and kept it there in the off-season.

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On 4/22/2021 at 12:42 AM, 12 metre said:

Pretty certain the Fast 310 is a knockoff of the Kirie Elite 30R.  Like they make a knockoff of the Nicholson 345

Kirie made 3 or 4 variants of the Briand design (based on Freelance)

Below is an old Kirie promo photo with a Feeling 850, Elite 30R, and Freelance in the background.

feeling_850_photo.jpg

 

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Indulgence one-ton designed by Ron Holland

Kan vara en bild av utomhus

https://www.blocket.se/annons/blekinge/indulgence/95340804?fbclid=IwAR1jKXTH9rHaU0vqt-KrISb9UYJHf_zUbOLBNnAx2BqGDAKoSGtYpMny5xo

Google translate of link above: "Description
Indulgence built on Kiwi in New Zealand designer Ron Holland.
The boat is built for the One Ton Cup and has competed successfully both for England and later in Sweden. The boat is a navigable object with great potential to be nice with the right buyer. The engine has been changed to an MD 17D with few running hours. Many sails included. I have had the boat for the past 15 years and can imagine something in exchange.
Get in touch and I'll tell you more."
 
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On 4/22/2021 at 12:42 AM, 12 metre said:

Pretty certain the Fast 310 is a knockoff of the Kirie Elite 30R.  Like they make a knockoff of the Nicholson 345

Kirie made 3 or 4 variants of the Briand design (based on Freelance)

Below is an old Kirie promo photo with a Feeling 850, Elite 30R, and Freelance in the background.

feeling_850_photo.jpg

 

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On 4/26/2021 at 6:27 AM, Serge A. Storms said:

Saw the old ROBIN in Portsmouth RI yesterday-   Pretty sure she was/is a Ted Hood one-tonner?

Looked sad...  It was a cold, grey, rainy day.  That kinda day....

ROBIN 1.jpg

 

That was my dream boat a long....long....long time ago.  Thought it would make a great cruiser.  Kept trying to talk myself into one of those "similar" Pearson 40 things later in life when I could almost think about affording the beat up examples.  Too big now for my old ass though.

Man, I would probably be dead before I could finish with that rehab!

 

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On 4/22/2021 at 12:42 AM, 12 metre said:

Pretty certain the Fast 310 is a knockoff of the Kirie Elite 30R.  Like they make a knockoff of the Nicholson 345

Kirie made 3 or 4 variants of the Briand design (based on Freelance)

Below is an old Kirie promo photo with a Feeling 850, Elite 30R, and Freelance in the background.

feeling_850_photo.jpg

 

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1 hour ago, SloopJonB said:

Gorgeous boat but that duck board interior would get old fast.

Plenty of storage options for loose change, nuts and bolts, lunch crumbs, pubes...

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2 hours ago, LordBooster said:

"Sassy's Lee" two-toner designed by Doug Peterson, aluminum IOR built -76 in California by Sparcraft

Ingen fotobeskrivning tillgänglig.

 

Was originally "Hurricane Deck" in Newport Beach.....?

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5 hours ago, longy said:

This boat is amazingly original - still has Stearns hydraulics!!!  

Who remembers which valve does what?

Togo VII, Japanese fractional Peterson 42 in the 1983 Admiral's Cup.  It was just silly.

 

Togo_cockpi_01.jpg

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Just now, P_Wop said:

Togo VII, Japanese fractional Peterson 42 in the 1983 Admiral's Cup.  It was just silly.

 

Togo_cockpi_01.jpg

You want silly?

My 1975 Kirby 1/4 Pounder had Stearn hydraulics on the headstay and backstay - for a 4300 Lb boat with 300 Ft. of sail.

They didn't leak fluid but they would slowly lose pressure over a time.

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6 hours ago, See Level said:

Backstay, vang, outhaul, flattener, 

Open top to ease, open bottom to pump up.

Upper left hole is rag storage to wipe up hydraulic fluid.

You win!! You're a certified curmudgeon!

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Mamba 34 3/4-tonner designed by Rolf Magnusson

Kan vara en bild av jordens vatten och text där det står ”1 av 2”

https://www.sailguide.com/batfakta/mamba-34?fbclid=IwAR3BLpzGur8wpQfzvHRrNnVfwhXlS2TRemXnipmtFjiUbX-xIi6H3-GkKGQ

https://www.blocket.se/annons/skane/mamba_34___kommande_forsaljning/95414298?fbclid=IwAR1MHen-h5AiDuiCjvrgbIOxhYe_EV75GJFN3SSykjtqCHD-JFt0VAYOrCY

"With Mamba 34, the designer Rolf Magnusson and the builder Bengt Karlsson intended to participate in the WC for three-quarters of a tonne in England. But on the way, the transport crew jumped off and the boat remained in Kiel. Lacking time, Rolf Magnusson then chose to sail Tjörn Runt, which he did with decent success. It was enough to make a decision about series production and in the autumn of 1978 the first boat sailed. A 34-footer was a large boat at this time and few yards in Sweden built such large boats. Even fewer invested in IOR boats. But BK Marin believed in the concept because there was speed in the boat and by being able to put in a family interior.", Google translate of: https://www.maringuiden.se/batguiden/;batID=1124&battypID=7?fbclid=IwAR1ERz2taSNHY9vXTMLpkhUW_NglRPu256rmZ9H4m0k0I4rkWX3MVmGXl9g

 

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3 hours ago, Whinging Pom said:

Holland?  Stern looks very Impish.

Holland for sure - that "Sticky Fingers" tongue transom was only him IIRC.

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35 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

Holland for sure - that "Sticky Fingers" tongue transom was only him IIRC.

Looks like Hagar, a very good quarter tonner.

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1 hour ago, P_Wop said:

Looks like Hagar, a very good quarter tonner.

Can only be The Fabulous Hagar.

Third at  '78 3/4T Worlds IIRC behind Pendragon and Sachem  IIRC.

Speaking of the '78 Worlds  Below are 3 of the bright finished boats in attendance:  Hagar (Holland), Sachem (Chance), & Riotous Assembly (Whiting).  Couldn't find a photo of Chocolate Chips (G&S) but I'm sure there is one somewhere on the web - I've seen one before.

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2 hours ago, 12 metre said:

Third at  '78 3/4T Worlds IIRC behind Pendragon and Sachem  IIRC.

I also recalled her as third, but: Hagar US Holland 1977, 1978 TQTC: 1-2-4-12-4 = 4th / 18, see: http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Trois Quart/Holland.htm?fbclid=IwAR3O8I5N4o_AByn1ul8ghz29_o-OAHpi6iRF4A6UYMcG-b4O3unsEFHWiS0

 

"1978 Victoria, Canada, 18 bateaux, 2 nations: Pen Dragon."

"1 Pen Dragon, US 57975, Davidson
2 Sachem, US, Chance
3 Chocolate Chips, US Graham & Schlageter
4 Hägar, US, Holland 1977"

 

 

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3 hours ago, 12 metre said:

Can only be The Fabulous Hagar.

Third at  '78 3/4T Worlds IIRC behind Pendragon and Sachem  IIRC.

Speaking of the '78 Worlds  Below are 3 of the bright finished boats in attendance:  Hagar (Holland), Sachem (Chance), & Riotous Assembly (Whiting).  Couldn't find a photo of Chocolate Chips (G&S) but I'm sure there is one somewhere on the web - I've seen one before.

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Assembly top.JPG

I was there and I had a shot of Chips afar. I was there to race not take pictures. The two don't get along well. Riotous never made out to race in the regatta. The pre-lim race was Swiftsure and it was blowing 30+ by Race Rocks and their mast step cratered. Our boat was a aluminium Mull and we turned back as we and if we break something after a 2 year build we thought it stupid as Swiftsure wasn't part of the regatta. I do have pics of Pendragon etc but I have have them filed away. Film in 11.  

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34 minutes ago, LordBooster said:

The first of many Pendragon's was there. That's Laurie to the right. It was final measurement day.

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Going back to the non-bumped IOR versions. Does the Farr 727 have any non-IOR version? "Now, let's introduce SWING28 with an excerpt from the now-defunct HELM magazine." "

The long-established domestic yacht builder, Tsubo Yacht, asked Bruce Farr to design a boat that meets the following five conditions:

1.  A cruising boat that ignores IOR with a light displacement type.
2. In club races, you must be able to cut off IORs of the same size or larger.
3. The total length should be
  28ft, which allows short hand and has a tight accommodation.
4. Being a fractional rig.
5. Equipped with an S drive engine.

Farr submitted the Lines, which perfectly met this requirement, to the Tubo Yacht.
The hull, which is slightly wider, shallower and longer, has a sheer line that retains the remnants of the quarter toner "Farr 727", and the interior is laid out with an emphasis on cruising." "The deck layout is a very orthodox style except that the dog house is large.
There is one seat winch on each side, and the Genoa retract angle is 11 degrees.
By omitting running and backstays, it is fully compatible with short hands.", see: http://www.the-support.net/something/some/something.html

https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/swing-28

 

SWING 28 photo

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6 hours ago, Maxx Baqustae said:

Our Mull 3/4 tonner at launch at Race Rocks Services.

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I think they used too much fertilizer when they planted those cabin top winches.

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Where is she now? Stefan Qviberg's quarter-tonner "Panik" at the QTC -74, prepared with fenders or similar devices. Wise in cramped ports:

Ingen fotobeskrivning tillgänglig.

http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Quarter Tonner/QTC 74.htm?fbclid=IwAR2rq2HFptxCBR9eZnSZFXqcn9vq-xnG_Plc3F2CAa5xdI-_7AhhQwli5F0

May be an interesting yacht for IRC conversion: "In the Quarter Ton series, the preparation seems even more active. We find everything from two whole boat completely new. The one built by Kjell Bulow and Stefan Kviberg is a glass / foam sandwich dinghy hull with a displacement of only 0.75 t for an overall length of 7.85 m, a beam of 2.75 m and a sails of 34 m2. The keel and the rudder can be lifted.", see (Google translate from French): http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Quarter Tonner/QTC 73.htm?fbclid=IwAR1fqZfz2ZOzQfxbFFzWB-FQxAE6hNrUDJAAhDu4vIiNUxQx3ERJuSGGTmI

A renovation of his quarter-tonner in memory of:

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Qviberg?fbclid=IwAR2Y9UVo560hqZxaPYhgXcyUY-7qjLZ5-BCUileRbHZmCuWHB6G7TJG3I9I

 

 

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Renovation of Argonaut TAKAI-26 one-off quarter-tonner

Kan vara en bild av jordens vatten

https://fd3941.exblog.jp/22594994/?fbclid=IwAR0rUElCJ6DDsKyGmJ-IkZHVHj9SOn1AqYFYLl8OLfx2GsAfexkaMzKKrcE

translate of link above: "he enthusiasm for this boat is transmitted to me in the restor who got permission from the owner and got permission to use the boat name of Argonaut  ! I couldn't do it at all, but to win the race, the ship was built for any amount of money. Even one of the parts uses the highest quality products at the world level , not at the Japanese level . Designed for the Seto Inland Sea race The
26feet boat, which was designed in 1984, has evolved to the point where it cannot be considered a brother!
Rather than a completely different thing,
it was completed in a word of the owner.
I'll leave it to Mr. Takai, so I want you to swing your arms freely!"
 

 

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11 hours ago, Rain Man said:

I think they used too much fertilizer when they planted those cabin top winches.

It was the times of winch farms. Jammers were just coming in but just for control lines. I have 6 invested casting S/S Barient winches. Overkill and seriously bulletproof. I can't imagine it would cost to make those now. 

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3 hours ago, Maxx Baqustae said:

It was the times of winch farms. Jammers were just coming in but just for control lines. I have 6 invested casting S/S Barient winches. Overkill and seriously bulletproof. I can't imagine it would cost to make those now. 

Those things will still be around when the sun burns out.

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4 hours ago, Maxx Baqustae said:

It was the times of winch farms. Jammers were just coming in but just for control lines. I have 6 invested casting S/S Barient winches. Overkill and seriously bulletproof. I can't imagine it would cost to make those now. 

Look at comparable Andersens - they are as nice as old S/S Barients

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