Steam Flyer 8,413 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 6 hours ago, guerdon said: Foxbat, appears to be made of plywood, not GRP. Still pretty cool. From the ad. Cool looking little boat. I'm not a huge fan of hard chines but this is a nice looking hull - DSK 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigrpowr 268 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 On 11/9/2021 at 5:11 PM, Maxx Baqustae said: All of us did. But it had been an issue for a long time. It wasn't a surprise at all but still sad. A top drawer human being. with fantastic taste in boats. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sleddog 311 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 11:28 AM, Chris in Santa Cruz, CA said: Raced many times against that boat in the bay. It was a fixture up there for decades. BODACIOUS being cutup for landfill. Sad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris in Santa Cruz, CA 941 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, sleddog said: BODACIOUS being cutup for landfill. Sad. Wow. Might as well take the lead to whaleworld. Hope the dumbass drunken owner had to pay the bill for recovery and the break up. What a drag. Heard he fell asleep or passed out and sailed it onto the rocks. Interestingly enough my sons girlfriend is a friend of the dude. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rain Man 1,969 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Spotted at Nanaimo today. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 12 hours ago, pironiero said: i wonder how under water part of this boat looks like...couldn't find any info, sailboatdata knows designer but there is no info on this design See ad: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 5 hours ago, Rain Man said: Spotted at Nanaimo today. Nice pic! Seems that she is called Canvasback? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,581 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Canvasback is a Kirby - 36? I checked it out on one of my shopping expeditions but it had less than standing headroom - in a 36 footer Also, no standing backstay of any kind, totally dependent on the runners & checks to keep the rig standing. Nice boat otherwise. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
12 metre 657 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 3 hours ago, SloopJonB said: Canvasback is a Kirby - 36? I checked it out on one of my shopping expeditions but it had less than standing headroom - in a 36 footer Also, no standing backstay of any kind, totally dependent on the runners & checks to keep the rig standing. Nice boat otherwise. They did have permanent backstays. In-line frac rig? Nearly impossible not to have one. If you zoom in on the photo of Canvasback a couple of times, you can clearly see the permanent attached to the MH crane. Even in the photo below of a K-36 that I pulled from Sailboatdata you can again see a permanent backstay there. So they were equipped with them. Now, it is possible when you looked at her it was removed, although I 'm not sure why. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 13 hours ago, Rain Man said: Spotted at Nanaimo today. A beauty! And what is the blue yacht, any idea? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 Golden Shamrock from -76, designed by Ron Holland https://boote.de/anzeigen/5894/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rain Man 1,969 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 1 hour ago, LordBooster said: A beauty! And what is the blue yacht, any idea? Blue boat is Lickety Split, a one off designed and built from scratch by a local sailor, Tom Stevens. He designs boats around rigs - his first design was built around a Melges 24 rig. This one is built around either a Melges 32 rig or possibly a Farr 30 rig? I can't remember. By picking a rig from a popular design, he is able to get used rigs and sails at very reasonable prices. Here is a picture of it sailing with some other boat in the foreground - it is a reaching rocketship with a masthead asym: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,581 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Link doesn't work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boink 838 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 From photo, the rig in Lickety Split is alloy, so rules out either Mumm/Farr 30 or Melges 32 rigs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 Puffin, Peterson Serendipity 43 https://ca.boats.com/sailing-boats/1981-peterson-serendipity-7990227/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 Peterson 37 from -85 built by Wigger's Custom Yachts https://ca.boats.com/sailing-boats/1985-peterson-37-8023959/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 "This custom-designed 50 foot Doug Peterson boat was based off a Baltic 48, which was a brilliant racing boat, but it rounded up too easily in stiff winds", from -88 https://ca.boats.com/sailing-boats/1988-doug-peterson-custom-50-6946496/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 Where is she now?: Honey-Honey, half-tonner designed -78 by Ed Dubois "Honey-Honey , K ???? Dubois 1978 centreboarder, 1978 HTC Poole:? E / 50, 1981 HTC:? E / 32;", see: http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/dubois.htm 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cill123 48 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Photos from a few years ago of a Ceccarelli QT, sister ship to Illegal from the previous. Been making a lovely garden ornament in a different colour for the last few years 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 Quiz: Hint: "“M. Joubert took it off, hooked it up behind his convertible Cadillac and pulled it, without a trailer, to the municipal landfill and declared: "I”" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 3 hours ago, cill123 said: Photos from a few years ago of a Ceccarelli QT, sister ship to Illegal from the previous. Been making a lovely garden ornament in a different colour for the last few years Seems to be under refit: http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Quarter Tonner/Q Ceccarelli Agr.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 J/36 from -82 designed by Rod Johnstone (note that another J/36 sailed 1981 SORC) https://www.boatshop24.com/nl/j-boats-j36/zeilboot/1506584 About SORC 1981: https://www.jboats.com/2021-blog/a-tribute-to-dear-friend-bob-fish-fisher https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/j36 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 CS 36 T designed by Raymond Wall https://www.eenbootkopen.nl/nl/te-koop-zeiljacht-cs-36-t https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/cs-36 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,581 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Not an IOR design. Pure cruising boat. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: Not an IOR design. Pure cruising boat. I guess she would measure rather good under IOR (from sailboatdata above): Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,581 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 In that era pretty well all boats with any performance aspirations had IOR characteristics about them while not being designed as "IOR boats". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,581 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 On 11/2/2021 at 2:28 PM, 12 metre said: Stern shot of "The Fabulous Hagar" at Shelter island. Hull in pretty good condition other than some peeled varnish on the topsides. May need a few strips of cedar veneer replaced - but the exposed portions of cedar looked more weathered than rotten to me, but I'm not a wood expert. JR ended up getting her - so she is in good hands. Looks like the rudder was updated sometime in the past. Went to SI today for a look. The boat is in incredible shape for a freebie. Looks way better shape than my N/M when I bought it. No-one around and I didn't see a barrel of varnish anywhere. It looked to me like the hull will need to be "wooded" - the varnish is toast and no sign of a glass coating over it. I didn't see any sign of rot or veneers needing replacement, just a whole lot of sanding and varnishing needed. I spoke to a couple of guys I know there who know about the boat and they said they understood some new Norths are on order. I have to say that boat was the best deal I have ever run across. It really puts the lie to the old saw about free boats being the most expensive. Anybody know how they got it across the border? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
12 metre 657 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 45 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: Went to SI today for a look. The boat is in incredible shape for a freebie. Looks way better shape than my N/M when I bought it. No-one around and I didn't see a barrel of varnish anywhere. It looked to me like the hull will need to be "wooded" - the varnish is toast and no sign of a glass coating over it. I didn't see any sign of rot or veneers needing replacement, just a whole lot of sanding and varnishing needed. I spoke to a couple of guys I know there who know about the boat and they said they understood some new Norths are on order. I have to say that boat was the best deal I have ever run across. It really puts the lie to the old saw about free boats being the most expensive. Anybody know how they got it across the border? I talked to some of the guys sort of involved with this the day after the boat arrived in the yard and they said there was some rot that needed addressing. We were outside looking over the hull so I assumed they meant the areas where the varnish had peeled I talked to JR the other day, and I got the impression talking to him that the bilge area needs some work rather than the topsides. So he will fix that and do some additional reinforcing with UD S-Glass. Also will be glass coating the exterior. Turns out the boat was not free - more of a marketing ploy I think to garner interest. But went for not much $. The boat was trucked up here by a local marine transport company. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
12 metre 657 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 11 hours ago, LordBooster said: Quiz: Hint: "“M. Joubert took it off, hooked it up behind his convertible Cadillac and pulled it, without a trailer, to the municipal landfill and declared: "I”" That one has me stumped. Too big to be L'Effraie - the French Mini-Ton Cat Sloop which managed to sail through pretty much the same loophole as Cascade. Anyway, below is L'Effraie at the '78 Mini-Ton Cup, which she won BTW. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
12 metre 657 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 On 11/10/2021 at 10:07 PM, Rain Man said: Spotted at Nanaimo today. Speaking of Canvasback - Runaway, her bigger and slightly older Kirby sibling apparently sold recently. Runaway was on the '81 Canadian AC Team For the young'uns. BITD...the only AC was Admiral's Cup. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rain Man 1,969 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 3 hours ago, 12 metre said: Speaking of Canvasback - Runaway, her bigger and slightly older Kirby sibling apparently sold recently. Runaway was on the '81 Canadian AC Team For the young'uns. BITD...the only AC was Admiral's Cup. Still a very good-looking boat IMHO. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mid 4,408 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, Rain Man said: good-looking boat lipstick on a .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 5 hours ago, 12 metre said: That one has me stumped. Too big to be L'Effraie - the French Mini-Ton Cat Sloop which managed to sail through pretty much the same loophole as Cascade. http://www.demi-coques.fr/articlevoile/paul Scroll down to Paul: http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/One Tonner/OJ 2 Repression.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 Supermonstre, half-tonner from -78 designed by Ernesto Sciomachen https://keej.it/annuncio/nautica/rimini-provincia-annunci-cattolica/barca-a-vela-progetto-sciomachen-495481669.htm http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/E204 supermonstre.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 Filo Da Torcere, Vallicelli, 1980 One Ton Cup , Naples: 10 - 5 - 6 - 3 - 4 = 1st / 27 , showing a minimum of stern wave http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/One Tonner/OVa 2 Filo.htm 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 Comeback Kid, half-tonner designed by Rob Humphreys, after getting a wash in preparation for tomorrows race in Norway https://www.facebook.com/1222444565/videos/411185077155012 https://www.facebook.com/groups/360304181752356 "Comeback Kid NOR 6274 Nessy 94 Racing ?, 2021 MK-Bat: ?e/??, rating 0,894 Espen Bakkerud;", see: http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Humphreys.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mckenzie.keith 132 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 On 11/11/2021 at 11:22 PM, LordBooster said: Puffin, Peterson Serendipity 43 https://ca.boats.com/sailing-boats/1981-peterson-serendipity-7990227/ Is this a good sailing boat? Apparently this one has a slightly different keel than most. Less draft (from the blurb). It is not terribly expensive for a 43 foot boat, but some of the woodwork down below is done with low quality plywood (from the pictures). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 hours ago, mckenzie.keith said: Is this a good sailing boat? Apparently this one has a slightly different keel than most. Less draft (from the blurb). It is not terribly expensive for a 43 foot boat, but some of the woodwork down below is done with low quality plywood (from the pictures). Seems OK. Has never been raced hard. Less draft can be good for shallow waters. Four cylinder engine with gearbox, a smooth drive. The "blond" colored plywood can be OK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 Antidotum, Banner half-ton from -89 designed by Judel/Vrolijk http://www.jacht-market.com.pl/adv/show/Sprzedam/jacht_zaglowy/zachodniopomorskie/13364.html http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/E143 Antidotum.htm 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 B 31 designed by Boström and Grandinsson, renovation project https://sprzedajemy.pl/jacht-zaglowy-b-31-dl-9m-do-remontu-gdansk-2-062e3e-nr64079919 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 Geronimo, Dehler - dB1, from -81, designed by van de Stadt https://www.lodzie24.com/lodz-zaglowa/jacht-zaglowy/dehler/498406/db1-mit-faryman-3zyl-motor.html 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 ANTON, Elvström 1/4-ton, from -78. "Revived hull and deck" https://www.skelbiu.lt/skelbimai/parduodama-jachta-55231457.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 CB 33 from -91, designed by Carl Beyer https://foorum.kipper.ee/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10213&fbclid=IwAR3Rn2IWqyfhRoL1isTY0OTFP1bwe8HSLeGHxe6uBvKanM0Vcuyeo10-JrA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 Quiz: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 Answer to quiz: Irish Mist II, designed by Ron Holland. Note how well kept she is: https://www.patrimoine-maritime-fluvial.org/navires-du-patrimoine/navires-bip-search/irishmistii/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 What if?: Gary Baigent :"Davidson visited Chance when Chance had been researching centreboard boats before he drew Resolute Salmon." "Davidson showed Chance his moderately heavy Half Ton-designs Tramp and Blitzkrieg and Chance commented, as a result of his recent test, that the Davidson keels were too big – and that was proven to be right." Pic showing Britton Chance Jr. design Sachem, 1978 Custom Chance 34 [2nd at TQTC -78, after Davidson's Pendragon]" Gary Baigent: https://www.coolmobility.com.au/Yacht/LightBrigade.pdf 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 KIRIE FEELING 850 SPECIAL from -86, designed by Philippe Briand https://www.theyachtmarket.com/de/zum-verkauf-stehendes-boot/2181303/ Probably DNA or similar from Free Lance winner of HTC -83: http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/BR2.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
12 metre 657 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, LordBooster said: KIRIE FEELING 850 SPECIAL from -86, designed by Philippe Briand https://www.theyachtmarket.com/de/zum-verkauf-stehendes-boot/2181303/ Probably DNA or similar from Free Lance winner of HTC -83: http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/BR2.htm The Feeling 850 and Elite 30 (and a couple of other Kiries in that size range) were all derived from Free Lance, but with different LOA and rigs. However, the boat in the photo is almost certainly an Elite 30 - not a Feeling 850. The 850 was about 2 ft shorter with an LOA under 28' and had a more vertical truncated transom. Below is a promo photo showing an 850 in the foreground with an Elite 30 next and Free Lance in the background. The second photo is a stern shot of an actual 850 I was looking at a few years ago and you can see how wide and flat the truncated stern is compared to the one above. The main reason I didn't make an offer is they are short on SA for PNW conditions - although probably ideal for Europe. But spacious interior for a 28 footer with aft cabin and head. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santanasailor 643 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 hours ago, LordBooster said: What if?: Gary Baigent :"Davidson visited Chance when Chance had been researching centreboard boats before he drew Resolute Salmon." "Davidson showed Chance his moderately heavy Half Ton-designs Tramp and Blitzkrieg and Chance commented, as a result of his recent test, that the Davidson keels were too big – and that was proven to be right." Pic showing Britton Chance Jr. design Sachem, 1978 Custom Chance 34 [2nd at TQTC -78, after Davidson's Pendragon]" Gary Baigent: https://www.coolmobility.com.au/Yacht/LightBrigade.pdf That boats bottom is flatter than my Jon boat. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 5 hours ago, 12 metre said: The Feeling 850 and Elite 30 (and a couple of other Kiries in that size range) were all derived from Free Lance, but with different LOA and rigs. However, the boat in the photo is almost certainly an Elite 30 - not a Feeling 850. The 850 was about 2 ft shorter with an LOA under 28' and had a more vertical truncated transom. Below is a promo photo showing an 850 in the foreground with an Elite 30 next and Free Lance in the background. The second photo is a stern shot of an actual 850 I was looking at a few years ago and you can see how wide and flat the truncated stern is compared to the one above. The main reason I didn't make an offer is they are short on SA for PNW conditions - although probably ideal for Europe. But spacious interior for a 28 footer with aft cabin and head. Perhaps the "SPECIAL" has the same length as Free Lanced? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenmasterfred 565 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 On 11/12/2021 at 7:29 PM, 12 metre said: Speaking of Canvasback - Runaway, her bigger and slightly older Kirby sibling apparently sold recently. Runaway was on the '81 Canadian AC Team For the young'uns. BITD...the only AC was Admiral's Cup. Yup, sailed on Pachena on the Canadian AC Team that year, 3rd boat was Amazing Grace and that dog would not hunt. Was great racing with Bruce Kirby (RIP) on the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moody frog 106 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 15 hours ago, LordBooster said: What if?: Gary Baigent :"Davidson visited Chance when Chance had been researching centreboard boats before he drew Resolute Salmon." "Davidson showed Chance his moderately heavy Half Ton-designs Tramp and Blitzkrieg and Chance commented, as a result of his recent test, that the Davidson keels were too big – and that was proven to be right." Pic showing Britton Chance Jr. design Sachem, 1978 Custom Chance 34 [2nd at TQTC -78, after Davidson's Pendragon]" Gary Baigent: https://www.coolmobility.com.au/Yacht/LightBrigade.pdf "Chance 37" (a not so one-ton)was NOT Britton's first design of that size, he had had before "De Schelde II" then "Breyell II" both under RORC rule. Shape evolution between those 3 shows a full time enquiring mind and a number of "finds". Soon after the Chance 37, came the "Offshore 1" 33' and "Salmon" logic was in place and ... in line (do I believe) 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crash 1,007 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 19 hours ago, 12 metre said: The main reason I didn't make an offer is they are short on SA for PNW conditions - although probably ideal for Europe. But spacious interior for a 28 footer with aft cabin and head. Plus the 850 has the deadly bridgedeck traveler 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
12 metre 657 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Crash said: Plus the 850 has the deadly bridgedeck traveler Oh yeah - forgot about that. Although I have to say I prefer a wider bridgedeck than the one on the 850. I like at least a boot length of clearance if at all possible. But on a 28 footer - things can be pretty tight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeO 151 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 11 hours ago, moody frog said: "Chance 37" (a not so one-ton)was NOT Britton's first design of that size, he had had before "De Schelde II" then "Breyell II" both under RORC rule. Shape evolution between those 3 shows a full time enquiring mind and a number of "finds". Soon after the Chance 37, came the "Offshore 1" 33' and "Salmon" logic was in place and ... in line (do I believe) Hmmmff... keel that far forward just looks wrong somehow. Oh well ...Britt Chance, right? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 Worth taking a look at again: Le Truck, Farr 37 built by Ron MacArthur and the owner. It is an IOR design by Bruce Farr (Design No 139) https://vicsailwa.com/vicsail_wa/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/farr-37-now-reduced/260437 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 Baltic 42 DP from -86 https://vicsailwa.com/vicsail_wa/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/baltic-42-dp/268052 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oh Sheet 9 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 well I bought the Cal 40 on the capt q video on page 1. Was looking at it before but at that time and price of shipping was too much. Paid more for shipping than the boat eventually. Origanly from Port Huron MI. to Boston to Maine.Original owner was Francis Merrit. Boat name is Hustler. Anybody know anything? I no not really IOR. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 Worth another look: Katalexa Fuji Takai 39 racing yacht, designed by Osamu Katai, Japanese-built -88 https://water.drom.ru/vladivostok/sail/prodam-parusnuju-jahtu-takai-39-58497076.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 18, 2021 Author Share Posted November 18, 2021 Racing Yamaha 30R from -91 https://water.drom.ru/vladivostok/sail/prodaetsja-gonochnaja-yamaha-30r-27410416.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Left Shift 3,617 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 11/16/2021 at 1:22 AM, moody frog said: "Chance 37" (a not so one-ton)was NOT Britton's first design of that size, he had had before "De Schelde II" then "Breyell II" both under RORC rule. Shape evolution between those 3 shows a full time enquiring mind and a number of "finds". Soon after the Chance 37, came the "Offshore 1" 33' and "Salmon" logic was in place and ... in line (do I believe) I spent the longest year of my life in 11 days of sailing on a Chance 54 to Hawaii with a keel that far forward. The hull forward though was as flat as a sheet of plywood. Take off on a wave and it was 50% chance of going right, 50% chance of going left and 0% chance of going straight. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeO 151 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 21 minutes ago, Left Shift said: I spent the longest year of my life in 11 days of sailing on a Chance 54 to Hawaii with a keel that far forward. The hull forward though was as flat as a sheet of plywood. Take off on a wave and it was 50% chance of going right, 50% chance of going left and 0% chance of going straight. Heh heh.. no lateral resistance aft- tail waggin' the dog! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sledracr 907 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 56 minutes ago, Left Shift said: Chance 54 to Hawaii with a keel that far forward. Warrior? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Left Shift 3,617 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 37 minutes ago, sledracr said: Warrior? Nope. Would have much preferred that ride, but then the last time I saw Warrior at the end of a Hawaii race in Ala Wai, it had developed a longitudinal twist big enough to open a half-inch crack at base of the doghouse on the starboard side. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
12 metre 657 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, sledracr said: Warrior? I am guessing Glory. But I would have thought her keel wasn't that far forward. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 Cool stories from Clipper Cup -82. To read download the file and open in Windows. Press Edit and then press Find and write Clipper: https://issuu.com/latitude38/docs/latitude3863seunse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 Mana, H 800, quarter-tonner from -90, designed by Alain Jezequel https://www.tuttobarche.it/vendita-barche-usate/barca-vela/hocevar-nautika-h-800-id3919 http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Quarter Tonner/Q Jezequel Mana.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 Bianca 32 Riviera from -78, designed by Sparkman & Stephens https://www.inautia.it/barca-60534100211455705255494857654568.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 Bénéteau First 30 from -81 designed by Andre' Mauric, based on the HTC winner -73 Impensable https://www.yachtall.com/ru/lodka/beneteau-first-30-388197 https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/first-30-beneteau-mauric Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Liquid 646 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 hours ago, LordBooster said: Mana, H 800, quarter-tonner from -90, designed by Alain Jezequel https://www.tuttobarche.it/vendita-barche-usate/barca-vela/hocevar-nautika-h-800-id3919 http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Quarter Tonner/Q Jezequel Mana.htm If you squint really hard it looks to have chines! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
12 metre 657 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 58 minutes ago, Liquid said: If you squint really hard it looks to have chines! Not from this view 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,581 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Liquid said: 4 hours ago, LordBooster said: Mana, H 800, quarter-tonner from -90, designed by Alain Jezequel https://www.tuttobarche.it/vendita-barche-usate/barca-vela/hocevar-nautika-h-800-id3919 http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Quarter Tonner/Q Jezequel Mana.htm Expand Expand If you squint really hard it looks to have chines! Looks a rather distorted hull for so late in the IOR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 51 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: Looks a rather distorted hull for so late in the IOR. Probably designed -79 and built -90: Compare the 1/4-tonner Los Angeles designed by Alain Jezequel in -79: See: http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Quarter Tonner/Q Jezequel 116 Los An.htm 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 For all Pope hat specialists: Lowell "the Pope" North on Pendragon [Laurie Davidson] at TQTC -78, pic from "L'Année Bateaux 1978-1979": http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Trois Quart/1978 TQTC.htm https://www.northsails.com/sailing/en/2019/06/remembering-lowell-north-founder-of-north-sails Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Schakel 260 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 On 12/14/2020 at 6:21 PM, Sail4beer said: I may differ slightly in my approach to the project True but neccessary. Cradle to cradle, dust to dust. I guess the most beautifull in line, maintainance and speed survive, and then you have something. This one for instance: And she was for sale for only $22,500. Carrera 290 Or this Lady Helmsman. Now that's what I call a classic beauty. And most of them sell very easy. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 3,414 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Mike from CT is still trying to sell his Carrera 290. Great looking boat 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 4 hours ago, Sail4beer said: Mike from CT is still trying to sell his Carrera 290. Great looking boat Håkan Södergren a great yacht designer (sorry wiki in Swedish): https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Håkan_Södergren_(båtkonstruktör) Third at HTC -80 with Helmer Bryd: http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/E5bis Helmer.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/carrera-290 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bridhb 918 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 That Helmsman line of boats are nice looking. Europe gets all the cool stuff! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 Where is she now: Mercury, half-tonner, designed by Ragnar Håkansson (Ragge Hawkenson) -77. Placed 5th of 12 yachts at the US Half Ton Cup -77 (winner Petrified designed by Chuck Burns). Pic from 1977 October " Latitude 38 ", US Magazine http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/E239.htm http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/1977 US HTC Resultats.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 Karasu Takai 40, winner of the IOR class (9 yachts), Corum Japan Cup, International Yacht Series, -94 https://onbreeze.org/offshore/258_Offshore_225.pdf http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/One Tonner/Crow.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordBooster 250 Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 Lionheart, Sparkman & Stephens 34, from -80 https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/sparkman-stephens-34/268006 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Martin https://www.pexip.com/leading-in-a-changed-world/jesse-martin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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