ProaSailor 415 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 30 minutes ago, Ovakus said: I really want to see him make VMG toward a good port now. Yeah. He wants to get north before tacking west, I guess. But closer to shore soon seems wise... He is ~150 NM offshore. https://www.windy.com/?37.599,-73.471,8,m:eGZad8k P.S. Yikes! From the damage description (below), he might be better off settling for a harbor much further south than Virginia Beach. Go west young man! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unShirley 122 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2Oceans1Rock 27m · A message from Ryan. "The starboard tack fwd part of the pod blew up today. Tons of water inside. I did a quick fix with wood screws, spare panel, some broken pieces and gfl ex. Its rough and upwind to get back to safety so I'm heading upwind on port to get enough distance to sail on starboard slowly with only a storm jib, so the damaged part isn't taking direct hits at speed. That means sailing on a reach though. This happened just as I was entertaining the Gulf stream." Ryan is safe and not in any immediate danger, but he is going to have some rough hours in front of him as he heads upwind back to shore. 33 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wess 2,494 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Solarbri said: HarryProas have the living “pod” to windward. Oh god no. Please don’t bring that topic and those idiots (either side) to this thread. I didn’t even realize what I waded into... Just hoping Ryan makes it home safe. Age old story if batts rumor is true... weight is the enemy of any multihull; cat, tri, or proa (whatever type). 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 He's still heading NNE at ~9 knots, approximately the same latitude he was 10 hours ago but ~28 NM further east. https://share.garmin.com/82X63 Jan 22, 2021 5:06:30 PM (Pacific time) Speed: 10.19 mph Course: NNE Lat: 37.298423 Lon: -72.444835 https://www.windy.com/-Waves-waves?waves,37.599,-73.471,8,m:eHmad8k Wind NW at 23 knots gusting to 30 knots, Waves 8 feet at 6 secs., Temp 49 degrees F. Forecast for the same spot Saturday morning (0900 Pacific): Wind NW at 27 knots gusting to 40 knots, Waves 12 feet at 7 secs., Temp 39 degrees F. and freezing along the entire coast north of Virginia Beach. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unShirley 122 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Has Jerzo gone around Cape Horn before? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent 1,767 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, unShirley said: Has Jerzo gone around Cape Horn before? I don't think that any proa ever passed Cape Horn... But I am willing to stand corrected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Ryan shunted onto starboard tack an hour ago at 0130 Pacific time (0430 east coast). Now heading WSW at 5+ knots. Current tracker report, ~184 NM from Virginia Beach: (a long time from safe harbor at 5 knots or less) Jan 23, 2021 2:29:30 AM Speed: 6.27 mph Course: WSW Lat: 38.011355 Lon: -72.288536 https://www.windy.com/?37.855,-72.653,8,m:eIwad8E Wind NW at 23 knots gusting to 34 knots, Waves 8 feet at 6 secs., Temp 44 degrees F. (increasing very soon to 40+ knots gusts and waves 10 to 12 feet at 6 to 7 secs.) Gulf Stream relative to his position: 8 hours ago, unShirley said: Has Jerzo [Jzerro] gone around Cape Horn before? No. RB proa Pacific Bee (originally Cimba) passed through the Strait of Magellan in December, 2018, inside a container aboard a ship on the way to its new home on Chiloé Island, Chile. Now named Areté: http://pacificproa.com/brown/arete/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudreaux 48 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Well based on the new information, it sounds more like the pod's fillets gave way on impact with waves. Rather than a hole, we are probably talking about a seam or seams that have ripped open. Damage might look more like this: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stief 4,173 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Boudreaux said: Well based on the new information, it sounds more like the pod's fillets gave way on impact with waves. Rather than a hole, we are probably talking about a seam or seams that have ripped open. Damage might look more like this: Fillets? Sorry--not up to speed on proa terminology, so not sure where the fillets might be. Here's a pic of the port bunk on my trimaran, and I'm trying to imagine how the leading edges might 'rip open' 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 20 minutes ago, stief said: Fillets? Sorry--not up to speed on proa terminology, so not sure where the fillets might be. Not proa terminology, fillets are commonly used in epoxy fiberglass work: VIDEO: https://www.offcenterharbor.com/videos/mastering-epoxy-russell-brown-part-2-filleting-two-steps/ Ryan's description sounds more serious than a seam opening up: Quote "The starboard tack fwd part of the pod blew up today. Tons of water inside." It also has an amusing typo: "This happened just as I was entertaining the Gulf stream." Pretty sure he meant "entering" the Gulf Stream. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudreaux 48 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, ProaSailor said: Not proa terminology, fillets are commonly used in epoxy fiberglass work: VIDEO: https://www.offcenterharbor.com/videos/mastering-epoxy-russell-brown-part-2-filleting-two-steps/ Ryan's description sounds more serious than a seam opening up: It also has an amusing typo: "This happened just as I was entertaining the Gulf stream." Pretty sure he meant "entering" the Gulf Stream. Yeah, I'm understating the damage, I'm sure. Those red lines may extend a lot further than I've illustrated. I'm trying to remain in denial about how bad this may be. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudreaux 48 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 OK, I updated the image to possibly be more in tune with the description Ryan provided. I guess the side of the pod could be flapping in the waves, and the bottom pulled down some as well. Pure conjecture on my part just from knowing the boat. I know nothing more than you guys do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stief 4,173 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Got it. No fillets inside mine at those points, so only worried about Ryan. Thanks for the clarification and the pics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 44 minutes ago, Boudreaux said: Yeah, I'm understating the damage, I'm sure. Those red lines may extend a lot further than I've illustrated. I'm trying to remain in denial about how bad this may be. I took these photos of Jzerro being built in early Spring, 1992. This is the port tack leading edge of the leeward pod, the damage is on the other end. The bottom of the pod is propped up with sticks in preparation for being epoxied into place. This is some of the fine interior work. Having "Tons of water inside" is heartbreaking and potentially very serious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boardhead 222 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 At this juncture the shortcomings of the design and construction of that accommodation/reserve buoyancy wing seem a little cynical given Ryan's predicament, without more information a lot of it is conjecture. I have been out where he is in similar conditions - but in June - it's big boy stuff. The guy obviously is very capable, knows his boat well and is only out there right now because he has the balls to undertake such a lofty endeavor with the resources at his disposal. Fingers crossed Ryan makes it safe to shore and brings Jzerro with him so she get's fixed and lives to wow him again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nolatom 400 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 "Fillet" is probably most known as a welding type for steel or aluminum construction, look up "fillet weld". If there isn't full penetration of the weldment into the juncture of the two plates being welded (typically at right angles to each other), it can become a "notch", or a stress-raiser, ergo more likely to be the starting point for a crack-type failure which propogates into the "good" weldment, until the joint is completely split. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unShirley 122 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Quote A message from Ryan from 9:30AM: "My iridium connection has been as bad as I've ever seen it. It took me hours of attempts to send an email last night. I'm heading toward NC/Virginia area. Not sure what to do when I get there, but getting there is the hard part now. My band-aid that I put on the hull is doing okay, but it's not strong enough to sail faster than I am now, so I'm sort of limping along in 25 knots under storm job (sic) only. I sailed way north to achieve this angle I'm sailing now under jib alone. I'm trying to look on the bright side and that is that this could have happened in a far more remote area. It's just enormously disappointing nonetheless." Any Anarchists in the "NC/Virginia" area following this thread that can take and post some pics of the damage will be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rasputin22 2,780 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 17 hours ago, unShirley said: This happened just as I was entertaining the Gulf stream." That is what you get for 'entertaining' the Gulf Stream. You just being there is entertaining, good luck and get home safe! "Needs more fillet" to the tune of 'needs more cowbell'... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 ~29 hours later and ~25.5 hours after the incident, Ryan is about to cross his southbound track. Current tracker: Ryan Finn Jan 23, 2021 11:00:15 AM Speed: 4.37 mph Course: SW Lat: 37.547858 Lon: -73.018763 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Solarbri 77 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, unShirley said: Any Anarchists in the "NC/Virginia" area following this thread that can offer Ryan a safe port of refuge, and/or a helping hand, would be greatly appreciated. Fixed it for you. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovakus 12 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 What do you all guess for an ETA to dry land? If he can keep this up, will he make it to Virginia Beach in 30 hrs or so (ie by sunset Sunday)? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 29 minutes ago, Ovakus said: What do you all guess for an ETA to dry land? If he can keep this up, will he make it to Virginia Beach in 30 hrs or so (ie by sunset Sunday)? He is currently 147 NM from Virginia Beach but his consistent heading since tacking will take him well south of there (~73 NM), toward Roanoke Island, Nags Head, NC (Oregon Inlet), 161 NM away. That's 32+ hours at five knots, assuming he doesn't tack. That will be Sunday at 11:00 pm east coast time. (2300) From what I can tell (Windy.com), weather is at its worst right now, Wind NW at 27 knots gusting to 42 knots, Waves 12 feet at 7 secs., Temp 40 degrees F. Except for temperature, it will get better as he approaches land. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unShirley 122 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, Solarbri said: Fixed it for you. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Update: Ryan's speed is now 7 knots (was, now back to 5.5 knots), he is 135 NM from Virginia Beach and appears to be "pinching" in that direction. If his speed holds (it didn't as I type this) and he can lay the mark, he could be there by 1300 east coast time Sunday afternoon (or 1830 at 5.5 knots). Remember that he has no motor so it may be tricky getting through the entrance (Owl Creek? eight miles south of Cape Henry Lighthouse) and to a dock. Speed has dropped again to 4.3 knots: Jan 23, 2021 2:55:15 PM Speed: 5.00 mph Course: SW Lat: 37.347121 Lon: -73.401825 There is a current pushing him south at 0.6 knots now and 0.9 knots near shore with a meander running 1.2 knots from north to south that he'll be crossing very soon. And he is only ~20 NM north of the main Gulf Stream running West to East at 3.3 knots. Getting into that would be bad! https://www.windy.com/-Wind-gusts-gust?gust,36.788,-74.262,9,m:eHmad6Y Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dex Sawash 518 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 36 minutes ago, ProaSailor said: (Owl Creek? eight miles south of Cape Henry Lighthouse) and to a dock. Rudee Inlet doesn't seem like a good target with no motor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Jan 23, 2021 4:55:30 PM Speed: 6.27 mph Course: W Lat: 37.259723 Lon: -73.618376 116 NM from Virginia Beach doing 5.5 knots (21 hours away, ETA 1800 east coast time) https://www.windy.com/?36.628,-73.801,9,m:eHgad6r Wind NW 24 knots gusting to 37 knots, Waves 10 feet at 7 secs., Temp 39 degrees F. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geese 39 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Oregon Inlet, Rudee Inlet are out of the question without a motor. The Lynnhaven River has a 45’ fixed bridge and a wicked current. Little Creek has no bridge and is possible without a motor but still not ideal. Sent a pm on Facebook. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unShirley 122 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Quote 2Oceans1Rock 2h · Ryan is doing well and headed for the Chesapeake. He said he's extremely inspired by the outpouring of support by all of you. He will be looking for somewhere in the lower Chesapeake to dock the boat and assess the damage, so if anyone in the area has reccomendations for a Yacht Club, Marina or somewhere where he could stop and figure out the next step it would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 30 minutes ago, Geese said: Oregon Inlet, Rudee Inlet are out of the question without a motor. The Lynnhaven River has a 45’ fixed bridge and a wicked current. Little Creek has no bridge and is possible without a motor but still not ideal. Sent a pm on Facebook. He is obviously trying hard to get into the Chesapeake but his track is headed for Luark Hill, 33 NM south of there, with northerly wind and currents setting him to the south. Where else can he go? Port tack NE for 33+ NM (6 to 8 hours)? Hatteras Inlet is more than 100 NM further south. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdazey 49 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Cobb's Marina (boat yard) in Little Creek would be the best option in the Lower Chesapeake. I don't think he could get to Cape Charles without a motor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Lagging tracker finally updated, he is 106 NM from Virginia Beach doing 7 knots again (now 8.3 knots, now 6 knots...). ETA 15+ hours (1300 eastern time, or 13 hours at 8+ knots - 11:00 am Sunday!?) but still headed south of the Chesapeake so a port tack jaunt NE looks likely. Ryan Finn Jan 23, 2021 6:46:30 PM Speed: 8.21 mph Course: WSW Lat: 37.180481 Lon: -73.810808 https://www.windy.com/-Wind-gusts-gust?gust,36.714,-74.248,9,m:eGZad55 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unShirley 122 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Update from FB: Ryan is going to head to Hampton Yacht Club 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Ryan Finn Jan 24, 2021 1:39:00 AM (Pacific, 0500 east coast) Speed: 7.56 mph Course: W Lat: 36.934608 Lon: -74.411558 Doing 6.5 knots, 74 NM from Virginia Beach (12 hours), 91 NM from Hampton Yacht Club (14 hours). Still heading for a spot ~35 NM south of the Chesapeake so ~8 hours on port tack heading NNE remains likely. ETA Hampton YC 0300 Monday morning? https://hamptonyc.com/ https://www.windy.com/?37.056,-74.888,9,m:eGFad4Y Wind NW 21 knots gusting to 31 knots, Waves 8 feet at 6 secs., Temp 36 degrees F. The entire east coast north of South Carolina is freezing! (32 degrees F.) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Ryan Finn Jan 24, 2021 6:39:30 AM Speed: 6.91 mph Course: W Lat: 36.753023 Lon: -75.090565 Ryan appears to have picked up the pace, maintaining a higher average speed. He is now ~63 NM from Hampton YC (great circle) and heading for a point ~22 NM south of the Chesapeake, making a total distance of ~85 NM. At 6.5 knots, that would be 13 hours for an ETA at Hampton YC of 2300 Sunday evening. (east coast time) Just now (10:00 am his time), he has slowed dramatically to 2 knots, perhaps changing to port tack? Nope, resumed heading WSW at 7.7 knots. (more sail?) https://www.windy.com/?36.914,-75.696,9,m:eGqad3X Wind NW at 16 knots gusting to 24 knots, Waves SE 6 feet at 3 secs., Temp 34 degrees F. 85 NM / 7.7 knots is 11 hours, making ETA at Hampton YC 2100 local time. (9:00 pm Sunday) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Ryan Finn Jan 24, 2021 8:51:15 AM Speed: 0.62 mph Course: SE Lat: 36.719161 Lon: -75.355075 Heading SE? Tacking? 28 NM from the beach, noon local time. Oh dear, 10 mins. later heading SW at 1 knot (drifting?)... 20 mins. later, heading WSW at 4.3 knots? Now WSW at 10 knots. Maybe it was a sail change? https://www.windy.com/?36.743,-75.616,10,m:eGlad3E Wind NW 16 knots gusting to 23 knots, Waves N 5 feet at 5 secs., Current N 0.6 knots, Temp 34 degrees F. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudreaux 48 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Still no confirmation that anyone is getting him under tow before the Hwy.13 bridge. It would be an incredible kindness if someone could save him from short shunting up into Hampton YC. Anyone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
4tied 19 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 13 minutes ago, Boudreaux said: Still no confirmation that anyone is getting him under tow before the Hwy.13 bridge. It would be an incredible kindness if someone could save him from short shunting up into Hampton YC. Anyone? Folks at HYC are lining up to assist. No worries! 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudreaux 48 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, 4tied said: Folks at HYC are lining up to assist. No worries! That's great. Thanks to all involved. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Ryan is 8.4 NM from the beach, still on starboard tack heading west at 4.3 knots. Looks like he will need a ~30 NM leg on port tack (heading NNE), then another 30 NM on starboard (heading west) to get close to the yacht club. Of course, they may have other plans to meet and tow him sooner. Otherwise, 68 NM / 4 knots is 17 more hours, ETA 0800 Monday. YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary) Ryan Finn Jan 24, 2021 11:41:30 AM (Pacific) Speed: 7.56 mph Course: WNW Lat: 36.599365 Lon: -75.728888 https://www.windy.com/?36.835,-75.819,10,m:eGbad2Y Wind NW 12 knots gusting to 20 knots, Waves N 3 feet at 5 secs., Current N 0.6 knots, Temp 35 degrees F. NOTE: Wind is going very light... now only 7 knots and much lighter inside the bay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Ryan Finn Jan 24, 2021 12:41:45 PM (Pacific) Speed: 1.24 mph Course: SSE Lat: 36.593700 Lon: -75.804355 3.5 NM from the beach and Ryan has changed course... SSE!? This must be the change to port tack (NNE) in progress? Will have to wait 10 mins. until the next tracker update to know for sure. Wind is very light near shore. Argh, still going drifting SSE. For 20 mins. Ryan Finn Jan 24, 2021 12:51:45 PM (Pacific) Speed: 0.62 mph Course: SSE Lat: 36.590791 Lon: -75.802810 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoBirds 83 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Maybe he's met up with some help https://share.garmin.com/82X63 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hannibalhouse 18 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 56+ miles to Hampton Yacht Club. It ain’t over ‘till the fat lady sings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 32 minutes ago, TwoBirds said: Maybe he's met up with some help The sooner the better would be good, it has to be miserably cold. But he's still going the wrong way. And that would be a long tow. 40 NM minimum. Now 40 minutes drifting SSE. Ryan Finn Jan 24, 2021 1:12:00 PM (Pacific) Speed: 0.62 mph Course: SSE Lat: 36.584601 Lon: -75.800836 Nothing on the FB page or Instagram. One hour after stopping, heading NW straight up wind. He must be under tow now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dex Sawash 518 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Cape Henry station shows wind 4kts @ 280 Corolla has 3kts @60 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, Dex Sawash said: Cape Henry station shows wind 4kts @ 280 Local effect wrapping around that headland? It's more NW outside, see Virginia Beach: https://www.windy.com/?36.889,-76.104,11,m:eGHad2t Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dex Sawash 518 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Center of a H pressure is passing, I reckon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hannibalhouse 18 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Pretty obvious that he is not yet under tow. When tow starts there are a whole new set of potential problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Something is amiss... barely 2 NM off the beach. Heading SSE again, very slowly. I suppose he doesn't have an anchor either? And it's dark by now. Ryan Finn Jan 24, 2021 2:22:00 PM (Pacific) Speed: 0.62 mph Course: S Lat: 36.590610 Lon: -75.832013 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wess 2,494 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 hours ago, Boudreaux said: Still no confirmation that anyone is getting him under tow before the Hwy.13 bridge. It would be an incredible kindness if someone could save him from short shunting up into Hampton YC. Anyone? No way to contact. I and at least one other hit him up on FB and also Messenger but nothing back. Guessing he is pretty busy about now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudreaux 48 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 If you can get him under tow I can get y'all connected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geese 39 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I just walked out to beach, it’s light and variable, and there have been punctuated gusts all day that would make for not fun sailing give the air temp. Does anyone know what Ryan wants? It’s just getting dark now. Matt Rutherford would not have accepted a tow on his round the americas trip, even though he spent a good bit of the trip emptying the bilge a few hours a day with a tin can. Ryan is definitely in range of Towboat US, they have very accomplished operators in Virginia Beach and Oregon Inlet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GH41 10 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Checked AIS and evidently he isn't transmitting. Two of Rudee boats (tour/fishing boats) came down the beach from the north and ducked into Owl Creek. Wonder if one of them got him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Dex Sawash said: Center of a H pressure is passing, I reckon. Windy.com forecast has wind direction clocking W and then SW by 2100 local time, then S at 6 knots by 2300. Ryan Finn Jan 24, 2021 2:52:00 PM (Pacific) Speed: 0.62 mph Course: SSW Lat: 36.584408 Lon: -75.832808 Now 1.9 NM from the nearest beach at 6:12 pm (his time). Nearly three times that distance DDW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 48 minutes ago, ProaSailor said: Now 1.9 NM from the nearest beach at 6:12 pm (his time). Nearly three times that distance DDW. I misspoke. Light wind is offshore W at 2 knots according to Windy.com, clocking to S at 4 knots in a couple of hours. Meant to say "on his present course" which was SSW at the time. Latest tracker says his course (heading?) is now north but the track doesn't show that. Wish we knew what's going on? Looks like there is just no useful wind pressure and current alone (N at 0.3 knots) is moving the boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudreaux 48 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 He's becalmed tide is sweeping him south. Sea Tow from here is going to cost $4k. Coasties are apprised of his situation and aware of his position. He's chilling until the wind comes up and he can sail in to HYC. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudreaux 48 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Puff on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 10 minutes ago, Boudreaux said: Puff on. You think? Maybe the southerly kicked in a little early? ~1.8 NM off the beach. Ryan Finn Jan 24, 2021 4:02:00 PM (Pacific) Speed: 5.00 mph Course: NNW Lat: 36.597861 Lon: -75.844781 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovakus 12 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 For now, looks like he is underway again. But after that washing machine he went through and all that wind, to be becalmed when he is getting close is just too much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudreaux 48 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 5 minutes ago, Ovakus said: For now, looks like he is underway again. But after that washing machine he went through and all that wind, to be becalmed when he is getting close is just too much. irony. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doghouse 124 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I guess he has no auxiliary power? Slogging up the beach against the ride and no wind is going to be a bitch. If anyone does communicate with him I'd strongly suggest not trying to come in Rudee without someone local who knows the inlet. It shoals badly this time of year. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GH41 10 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 24 minutes ago, Boudreaux said: He's becalmed tide is sweeping him south. Sea Tow from here is going to cost $4k. Coasties are apprised of his situation and aware of his position. He's chilling until the wind comes up and he can sail in to HYC. SeaTow is like a pawn shop.. A mother in a bind sells her deceased husband's wedding ring for 10 cents on the dollar to feed her kids a couple of meals! Fuck SeaTow and pawn shops!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudreaux 48 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 7 minutes ago, doghouse said: I guess he has no auxiliary power? Slogging up the beach against the ride and no wind is going to be a bitch. If anyone does communicate with him I'd strongly suggest not trying to come in Rudee without someone local who knows the inlet. It shoals badly this time of year. I think he will avoid going through Rudee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doghouse 124 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, Boudreaux said: I think he will avoid going through Rudee. Wise. I grew up going out of here, and I would be very nervous after all the winter gales. But we are here if needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudreaux 48 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 He says that he is soaking, anticipating the left shift. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoom 639 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Good to see he has made it at least close to safety Looks to be becalmed again off the Chesapeake mouth last few hours. This is a big shame, I've always loved the idea of Proas but there has been very little in the way of info on realistic performance of modern ones. A long, GPS monitored journey like this would be real neat. Hopefully this has been a freak incident, quickly repaired -> start again soon rather than a fundamental issue with the boat. On 1/24/2021 at 3:13 AM, ProaSailor said: "This happened just as I was entertaining the Gulf stream." Well the gulf stream definitely crashed the party I'll get my hat 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoom 639 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Picked up speed & in the mouth now, heading for the bridge Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GH41 10 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I hope he sails all the way to the slip!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudreaux 48 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 8 minutes ago, GH41 said: I hope he sails all the way to the slip!! looks light and DDW into the inlet. He may. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Ryan Finn Jan 25, 2021 4:23:30 AM (Pacific) Speed: 0.00 mph Course: N/A Lat: 37.021255 Lon: -76.343306 https://goo.gl/maps/CQgoYbFqBLPxst4J6 https://hamptonyc.com/ 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hannibalhouse 18 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Safe at dock at Hampton Yacht Club! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovakus 12 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Tracker Speed: 0 . And that is a good thing. F*** Yeah. Great job Ryan. Well done. You and Jzerro back at the dock. Sailed right to the slip? Double F*** Yeah. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GH41 10 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, Ovakus said: Tracker Speed: 0 . And that is a good thing. F*** Yeah. Great job Ryan. Well done. You and Jzerro back at the dock. Sailed right to the slip? Double F*** Yeah. Just puts in perspective the dick wads who call for rescue because the microwave quit working! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wess 2,494 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 14 hours ago, Boudreaux said: If you can get him under tow I can get y'all connected. Just waking up to the good news and looks like he doesn't need it. Friend had the tow boat (but he never heard back). I got a large trailer if needed but suspect he will (or at least I hope he can) repair in water. Just shoot me a PM or get me on book of faces if needing the trailer. We put a 36 foot trimaran on it and its got capacity for 8000 plus lbs. Glad to see he is in safe. The folks at HYC are good people. Repaired a blown out traveler track and car there after a DTB race and they were very kind to get me around for needed parts. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudreaux 48 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Does not look like UFO, just slammed a wave that hard. I want to see better photos. That's crazy. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudreaux 48 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I'll bet that was easy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Boudreaux said: Does not look like UFO, just slammed a wave that hard. I want to see better photos. That's crazy. Yes, more photos please. Clearly that leeward pod was being bashed hard, doing the work expected of a "safety ama". It plays a role long before extreme angles of heel. P.S. WTF is a '.jfif' image file extension/format? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudreaux 48 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, ProaSailor said: Yes, more photos please. Clearly that leeward pod was being bashed hard, doing the work expected of a "safety ama". It plays a role long before extreme angles of heel. I'm pretty sure that's 12mm ply there. So 10" x 10" square "cookie cutter" shear like that....40 psi shear strength of plywood. 500 lbs slap to that small area? And I'm really relieved to see the fillet did not fail. Once we see what's going on with the interior structure, we'll know more. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoBirds 83 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Good to see he made it, hope he's somewhere warm and dry. Looks like an impact and a much quicker repair than a blown fillet, with a bit of luck and some fast setting epoxy Ryan may still be able to get away in time to make the trip. I carry a 2' x 3' piece of peel and stick in my tool kit for this sort of problem ever since a boat I was working on blew off a pair of sawhorses and caved in the side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
r.finn 409 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 20 minutes ago, TwoBirds said: Good to see he made it, hope he's somewhere warm and dry. Looks like an impact and a much quicker repair than a blown fillet, with a bit of luck and some fast setting epoxy Ryan may still be able to get away in time to make the trip. I carry a 2' x 3' piece of peel and stick in my tool kit for this sort of problem ever since a boat I was working on blew off a pair of sawhorses and caved in the side. What you see is the nice part. This isn't a fixa-flat repair. I won't make this attempt again this winter. 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foghorn77 16 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Sorry to hear that. Glad you're OK. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudreaux 48 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 15 minutes ago, r.finn said: What you see is the nice part. This isn't a fixa-flat repair. I won't make this attempt again this winter. Get some sleep!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoBirds 83 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 30 minutes ago, r.finn said: What you see is the nice part. This isn't a fixa-flat repair. I won't make this attempt again this winter. Sorry to hear that sounds like you haven't ruled out next year? How the heck did you ever get those screws in? as I recall waves were around 7 feet when you were working on it, must have been pretty crazy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wess 2,494 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 48 minutes ago, r.finn said: What you see is the nice part. This isn't a fixa-flat repair. I won't make this attempt again this winter. Get a post up on FB if you need anything once you get your plans sorted even if just a warm dry place to regroup. Lots of folks around who would help if they knew how (what you need when). Good luck. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hike, Bitches! 302 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Foghorn77 said: Sorry to hear that. Glad you're OK. +1 on that! Wow..just found this thread. I know lots of good folks at HYC. They will take care of you..We are all ears on more details after you get some rest. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zonker 2,977 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Ryan - Get a few days good sleep first and catch up. Things will feel better then. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bruno 119 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 On 1/23/2021 at 5:08 AM, ProaSailor said: I took these photos of Jzerro being built in early Spring, 1992. This is the port tack leading edge of the leeward pod, the damage is on the other end. The bottom of the pod is propped up with sticks in preparation for being epoxied into place. This is some of the fine interior work. Having "Tons of water inside" is heartbreaking and potentially very serious. Sounds like a hole in the middle of a plywood panel, easy enough to fix out of the water under a tent or shed, with a heater. But concerning in terms of panel strength. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 415 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 13 minutes ago, Bruno said: Sounds like a hole in the middle of a plywood panel, easy enough to fix out of the water under a tent or shed, with a heater. But concerning in terms of panel strength. Hard to believe (how time flies!) but it's been 29 years since I took those photos. That boat has covered a lot of ocean miles since then without damage. This time the right (or wrong) combination of sea state and boat speed punched a hole. Sad but not surprising as the Gulf Stream is notorious for choppy waves and it's January! I don't think Russell imagined Jzerro rounding Cape Horn or he might have built it stronger. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sidecar 971 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 7 hours ago, TwoBirds said: How the heck did you ever get those screws in? as I recall waves were around 7 feet when you were working on it, must have been pretty crazy. If the damage was done in front of the bulkhead, the only access is a small inspection opening with little/no visibility once a hand or arm is In, which case even a temporary repair in a violent seaway was great work? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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