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Over the weekend a natural gas pump station serving Aspen was vandalized causing 3500 customers to lose service. 

https://www.aspentimes.com/news/investigation-continues-into-aspen-area-natural-gas-outage-which-could-last-into-tuesday/

Public utilities are ripe for the picking of homeland terrorists. 

Is this the next shitstorm to deal with in 2021?

 

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All the problems going on in the world, and the best some of these Maroons can do is poop in their own bed.

Sad times.

If they only had a boat to worry about their misplaced energies would be so much better spent.

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5 hours ago, bmiller said:

Over the weekend a natural gas pump station serving Aspen was vandalized causing 3500 customers to lose service. 

https://www.aspentimes.com/news/investigation-continues-into-aspen-area-natural-gas-outage-which-could-last-into-tuesday/

Public utilities are ripe for the picking of homeland terrorists. 

Is this the next shitstorm to deal with in 2021?

 

You just need a clear line of sight, preferably from under a set of power lines, while sitting in a lawn chair in the back of your truck! 

 

WL

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The people who did this probably thought they were really sticking it to the rich guy. Unfortunately the people most affected are the working class residents. A small percentage will hop on their jet and head to Scottsdale, telling the caretaker to call when it's back to normal.

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19 hours ago, bmiller said:

The people who did this probably thought they were really sticking it to the rich guy. Unfortunately the people most affected are the working class residents. 

There is a larger lesson there, but it will go unlearnt. 

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Nothing new. Hitting soft targets in the high country for maximum exposure started with the Two Elks arson. Seems Earth First! left a calling card at the Black Hills Energy operated locations in Pitkin County. 

In the recent edition of Condé Nast Traveller magazine (my wife got a free sub, what a waste of paper), the Senior VP of sustainability at Aspen Ski Co has stated they are in a “major fight” with the fossil fuels industry. I guess that the recent disruption of gas service to the town of Aspen is consistent with Aspen Ski CO’s message that they are openly hostile to the industry. Any harm to the town of Aspen is just collateral damage when hypocritical rhetoric is thrown around so easily.

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30 minutes ago, Fisher said:

Nothing new. Hitting soft targets in the high country for maximum exposure started with the Two Elks arson. Seems Earth First! left a calling card at the Black Hills Energy operated locations in Pitkin County. 

In the recent edition of Condé Nast Traveller magazine (my wife got a free sub, what a waste of paper), the Senior VP of sustainability at Aspen Ski Co has stated they are in a “major fight” with the fossil fuels industry. I guess that the recent disruption of gas service to the town of Aspen is consistent with Aspen Ski CO’s message that they are openly hostile to the industry. Any harm to the town of Aspen is just collateral damage when hypocritical rhetoric is thrown around so easily.

Agree nothing new, Two Elks was definitely ELF. But anybody could scribble anything on a vandalized site. It just seems to be ratcheting up with the Nashville bomb and the white supremacists wanting to take down electrical grids.

And you have to wonder about the "major fight" with the fossil fuel industry. Kind of hypocritical to have an airport full of private jets bringing your target audience in.

 

Side story, several years ago I was sitting at the kitchen table when the roar of a larger then usual jet leaving our small airport got my attention, then a private 737 flew by. Big story here in town. Turns out the pilot was able to drop off the owner and guests but there was no place to park the jet. So the pilot flew it over the mountain and parked it here. He got in a world of shit for it as the 737 was way over the weight limit of the air field.

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33 minutes ago, bmiller said:

He got in a world of shit for it as the 737 was way over the weight limit of the air field.

How does this happen?  (I know next to nothing about planes, except from being a passenger)

Seems the tower would just say "no, you cannot land here"   

Did the pilot identify as a Cesna?  

What stops planes from landing at an airport that they cannot take off from?  

"Gee Leroy, how long is that runway?  Well Alex, the book says xyz feet, we should be good...  Right-o!"  Thump... Crack.

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2 minutes ago, Windward said:

 

What stops planes from landing at an airport that they cannot take off from?  

"Gee Leroy, how long is that runway?  Well Alex, the book says xyz feet, we should be good...  Right-o!"  Thump... Crack.

1. Nothing

2. at's about right.

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34 minutes ago, Windward said:

How does this happen?  (I know next to nothing about planes, except from being a passenger)

Seems the tower would just say "no, you cannot land here"   

Did the pilot identify as a Cesna?  

What stops planes from landing at an airport that they cannot take off from?  

"Gee Leroy, how long is that runway?  Well Alex, the book says xyz feet, we should be good...  Right-o!"  Thump... Crack.

The tower is not manned all the time.

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3 hours ago, Windward said:

How does this happen?  (I know next to nothing about planes, except from being a passenger)

Seems the tower would just say "no, you cannot land here"   

Did the pilot identify as a Cesna?  

What stops planes from landing at an airport that they cannot take off from?  

"Gee Leroy, how long is that runway?  Well Alex, the book says xyz feet, we should be good...  Right-o!"  Thump... Crack.

 

pilot:   boy this runway sure is short...

co-pilot:   but look how wide it is..

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7 hours ago, bmiller said:

Agree nothing new, Two Elks was definitely ELF. But anybody could scribble anything on a vandalized site. It just seems to be ratcheting up with the Nashville bomb and the white supremacists wanting to take down electrical grids.

And you have to wonder about the "major fight" with the fossil fuel industry. Kind of hypocritical to have an airport full of private jets bringing your target audience in.

 

Side story, several years ago I was sitting at the kitchen table when the roar of a larger then usual jet leaving our small airport got my attention, then a private 737 flew by. Big story here in town. Turns out the pilot was able to drop off the owner and guests but there was no place to park the jet. So the pilot flew it over the mountain and parked it here. He got in a world of shit for it as the 737 was way over the weight limit of the air field.

As we have seen lately, too much money is just an invitation to ignore the rules and expect special treatment.  

A few years ago I was in Aspen visiting friends, one of whom was a "ski instructor to the stars" (yet still a very nice guy.).  He had a client flying in for a few days of instruction who we went up to meet on the mountain.  A Saudi prince.  He had just flown his F-15 into Aspen non-stop from Riyadh with mid-air refueling en-route courtesy of the US Navy.  

He showed up at the mid-station at noon dressed in a gold lame flight suit/ski onesie with two bimbos dressed for the disco and announced that the weather wasn't to his liking.  So I had a half-day lesson from the instructor on the Prince's dime.  

 

(I think it was an F-15.  When I saw it, it was a two seater fighter jet with Arabic insignia parked in among all the 727s. and Gulfstreams.  I know nothing about airplanes.  He did say that he averaged 1200 knots en route.  Is that possible?)

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15 minutes ago, Left Shift said:

As we have seen lately, too much money is just an invitation to ignore the rules and expect special treatment.  

A few years ago I was in Aspen visiting friends, one of whom was a "ski instructor to the stars" (yet still a very nice guy.).  He had a client flying in for a few days of instruction who we went up to meet on the mountain.  A Saudi prince.  He had just flown his F-15 into Aspen non-stop from Riyadh with mid-air refueling en-route courtesy of the US Navy.  

He showed up at the mid-station at noon dressed in a gold lame flight suit/ski onesie with two bimbos dressed for the disco and announced that the weather wasn't to his liking.  So I had a half-day lesson from the instructor on the Prince's dime.  

 

(I think it was an F-15.  When I saw it, it was a two seater fighter jet with Arabic insignia parked in among all the 727s. and Gulfstreams.  I know nothing about airplanes.  He did say that he averaged 1200 knots en route.  Is that possible?)

Not possible. F-15 isn’t going to average high supersonic speeds  (>M 2)and can only refuel from a probe equipped tanker. The USN uses drogues with the probe on the receiving aircraft. 

Plus it’s more than 7,500 nm on a great circle route  at a fast cruise speed of 480 knots, that’s pushing 16 hours plus time to slow down, descend and refuel and then climb back to cruise altitude.  

 

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20 minutes ago, Innocent Bystander said:

Not possible. F-15 isn’t going to average high supersonic speeds  (>M 2)and can only refuel from a probe equipped tanker. The USN uses drogues with the probe on the receiving aircraft. 

Plus it’s more than 7,500 nm on a great circle route  at a fast cruise speed of 480 knots, that’s pushing 16 hours plus time to slow down, descend and refuel and then climb back to cruise altitude.  

 

I recall he said it took something like 6.5 hours.  That seems to agree with the speed estimate.  With two re-fuelings, one over the western Med and one near Florida.  He had no need to brag -his plane was sitting there in the airport after all..  He was very matter of fact about the US Navy's willingness to refuel him.  

The F-15 was my guess, because that's just about the only fighter plane designation I know other than the Mustang my uncle flew off the Wasp, or the noisy fucking Growlers our of Whidbey.  It was a nasty looking thing, that I know.  

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15 hours ago, Left Shift said:

I recall he said it took something like 6.5 hours.  That seems to agree with the speed estimate.  With two re-fuelings, one over the western Med and one near Florida.  He had no need to brag -his plane was sitting there in the airport after all..  He was very matter of fact about the US Navy's willingness to refuel him.  

The F-15 was my guess, because that's just about the only fighter plane designation I know other than the Mustang my uncle flew off the Wasp, or the noisy fucking Growlers our of Whidbey.  It was a nasty looking thing, that I know.  

I would have to imagine that his skis, gold track suit, super-car and escort "companions" were sent ahead via cargo?   

Not much overhead luggage room on a fighter jet.

Customs clearance at his level probably isn't an issue...  Jet was probably armed as well.   For safety.

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20 hours ago, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

 

pilot:   boy this runway sure is short...

co-pilot:   but look how wide it is..

Approaching Rio Vista, a small airport, with my lawyer friend driving his Cessna 421, a larger fast twin. He always seemed to be a little behind this plane, usually landing long when I was with him. It’s night, he lines up on runway 33, half the length of the proper runway, 25. I thought I was just disoriented in the pattern because things weren’t adding up with his announcements on the Unicom (public channel). Then he turns final on the short runway and it looked like a carrier deck to me as we barreled down towards a small patch of lights. I finally spoke up as we turned and asked if he was sure. He mumbled something then fire walled the engines and raised the gear and flaps and announced he was going around. 

Most smaller municipal type airports do not have active towers, pilots announce their intentions as they go. It’s a lot like entering a traffic circle in your car, but with a radio to communicate. 

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3 hours ago, Windward said:

I would have to imagine that his skis, gold track suit, super-car and escort "companions" were sent ahead via cargo?   

Not much overhead luggage room on a fighter jet.

Customs clearance at his level probably isn't an issue...  Jet was probably armed as well.   For safety.

I'm pretty sure the girls were locals, if you consider Vegas local.  The gold lame ski suit had more buckles and zippers on it than I've got fingers and toes, and nothing like it had been previously seen outside of Wayne Newton's closet.  So the girls might have brought it with them.  

As for the rest, very likely supplied in situ.

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If a pilot declares an emergency, all rules are off, IIRC?  One of you flyboys can correct me if I am wrong.  I was training years ago in a Cessna 152 at the small General Aviation FBO in Chester CT.  There was a photo of a Lear or Gulfstream that had landed and taken off from there, on a runway way too short to be legal for that type plane.   The pilot was a wealthy young pilot for Whelen Engineering next door, whose daddy was a senior VP.  He was probably light on fuel and cargo, so he declared an emergency to land there.  At least that's the story I was told at the time.

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On 12/29/2020 at 2:56 PM, bmiller said:

The people who did this probably thought they were really sticking it to the rich guy. Unfortunately the people most affected are the working class residents. A small percentage will hop on their jet and head to Scottsdale, telling the caretaker to call when it's back to normal.

Nhaaa, the 1%ers will pick up their cell phone and call the resort/development manager/owner and demand they redeploy the guys plowing streets/shoveling out fire hydrants and get a half a cord of wood up to the house and lit in the great room fireplace Chop Chop, else there could be delays the next time said resort/development needs to refinance long term debt..

Problem solved!

 

Culprit is likely some jackoff from Portland who is pissed the mayor is not going to allow any more looting.. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/portland-mayor-turns-antifa-vows-battle-lawlessness-and-anarchy

 

 

 

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