bmiller 823 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Over the weekend a natural gas pump station serving Aspen was vandalized causing 3500 customers to lose service. https://www.aspentimes.com/news/investigation-continues-into-aspen-area-natural-gas-outage-which-could-last-into-tuesday/ Public utilities are ripe for the picking of homeland terrorists. Is this the next shitstorm to deal with in 2021? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Windward 444 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 All the problems going on in the world, and the best some of these Maroons can do is poop in their own bed. Sad times. If they only had a boat to worry about their misplaced energies would be so much better spent. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikewof 1,070 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Pitkin County? Knowledge of gas flow valves? Probably some millionaire's kid home from engineering school, powder-boarding the back country, decides to be an asshole. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Crab 1,317 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Betcha people stop wearing those fucking red caps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orion Jim 80 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I hate it when the “woke” are inconvenienced. Another example of the fleas shaking the dog, time to set examples and return to normalcy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
White Lightning2 324 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 5 hours ago, bmiller said: Over the weekend a natural gas pump station serving Aspen was vandalized causing 3500 customers to lose service. https://www.aspentimes.com/news/investigation-continues-into-aspen-area-natural-gas-outage-which-could-last-into-tuesday/ Public utilities are ripe for the picking of homeland terrorists. Is this the next shitstorm to deal with in 2021? You just need a clear line of sight, preferably from under a set of power lines, while sitting in a lawn chair in the back of your truck! WL 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grande Mastere Dreade 2,493 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 probably out of work person, pissed at all the 1%'s going skiing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
d'ranger 2,887 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 When caught they will be in hot water since their neighbors aren't. In related news no, the gas chamber is no longer an option. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dorado 713 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I suspect Latvians. They're always up to no good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
justsomeguy! 723 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dorado said: I suspect Latvians. They're always up to no good. Uzbekis drunk my battery fluid! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bmiller 823 Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 The people who did this probably thought they were really sticking it to the rich guy. Unfortunately the people most affected are the working class residents. A small percentage will hop on their jet and head to Scottsdale, telling the caretaker to call when it's back to normal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cruisin Loser 1,860 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 19 hours ago, bmiller said: The people who did this probably thought they were really sticking it to the rich guy. Unfortunately the people most affected are the working class residents. There is a larger lesson there, but it will go unlearnt. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fisher 42 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Nothing new. Hitting soft targets in the high country for maximum exposure started with the Two Elks arson. Seems Earth First! left a calling card at the Black Hills Energy operated locations in Pitkin County. In the recent edition of Condé Nast Traveller magazine (my wife got a free sub, what a waste of paper), the Senior VP of sustainability at Aspen Ski Co has stated they are in a “major fight” with the fossil fuels industry. I guess that the recent disruption of gas service to the town of Aspen is consistent with Aspen Ski CO’s message that they are openly hostile to the industry. Any harm to the town of Aspen is just collateral damage when hypocritical rhetoric is thrown around so easily. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bmiller 823 Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, Fisher said: Nothing new. Hitting soft targets in the high country for maximum exposure started with the Two Elks arson. Seems Earth First! left a calling card at the Black Hills Energy operated locations in Pitkin County. In the recent edition of Condé Nast Traveller magazine (my wife got a free sub, what a waste of paper), the Senior VP of sustainability at Aspen Ski Co has stated they are in a “major fight” with the fossil fuels industry. I guess that the recent disruption of gas service to the town of Aspen is consistent with Aspen Ski CO’s message that they are openly hostile to the industry. Any harm to the town of Aspen is just collateral damage when hypocritical rhetoric is thrown around so easily. Agree nothing new, Two Elks was definitely ELF. But anybody could scribble anything on a vandalized site. It just seems to be ratcheting up with the Nashville bomb and the white supremacists wanting to take down electrical grids. And you have to wonder about the "major fight" with the fossil fuel industry. Kind of hypocritical to have an airport full of private jets bringing your target audience in. Side story, several years ago I was sitting at the kitchen table when the roar of a larger then usual jet leaving our small airport got my attention, then a private 737 flew by. Big story here in town. Turns out the pilot was able to drop off the owner and guests but there was no place to park the jet. So the pilot flew it over the mountain and parked it here. He got in a world of shit for it as the 737 was way over the weight limit of the air field. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Windward 444 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 33 minutes ago, bmiller said: He got in a world of shit for it as the 737 was way over the weight limit of the air field. How does this happen? (I know next to nothing about planes, except from being a passenger) Seems the tower would just say "no, you cannot land here" Did the pilot identify as a Cesna? What stops planes from landing at an airport that they cannot take off from? "Gee Leroy, how long is that runway? Well Alex, the book says xyz feet, we should be good... Right-o!" Thump... Crack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FoolOnTheHill 62 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Windward said: What stops planes from landing at an airport that they cannot take off from? "Gee Leroy, how long is that runway? Well Alex, the book says xyz feet, we should be good... Right-o!" Thump... Crack. 1. Nothing 2. at's about right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tax Man 192 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Reminds me of this one https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/21/travel/kansas-cargo-plane-wrong-airport/index.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bmiller 823 Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 34 minutes ago, Windward said: How does this happen? (I know next to nothing about planes, except from being a passenger) Seems the tower would just say "no, you cannot land here" Did the pilot identify as a Cesna? What stops planes from landing at an airport that they cannot take off from? "Gee Leroy, how long is that runway? Well Alex, the book says xyz feet, we should be good... Right-o!" Thump... Crack. The tower is not manned all the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grande Mastere Dreade 2,493 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Windward said: How does this happen? (I know next to nothing about planes, except from being a passenger) Seems the tower would just say "no, you cannot land here" Did the pilot identify as a Cesna? What stops planes from landing at an airport that they cannot take off from? "Gee Leroy, how long is that runway? Well Alex, the book says xyz feet, we should be good... Right-o!" Thump... Crack. pilot: boy this runway sure is short... co-pilot: but look how wide it is.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Meat Wad 669 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 On 12/29/2020 at 11:32 AM, d'ranger said: In related news no, the gas chamber is no longer an option. That is too bad. There is plenty of worthless flesh that needs to be done away with. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Left Shift 3,007 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 7 hours ago, bmiller said: Agree nothing new, Two Elks was definitely ELF. But anybody could scribble anything on a vandalized site. It just seems to be ratcheting up with the Nashville bomb and the white supremacists wanting to take down electrical grids. And you have to wonder about the "major fight" with the fossil fuel industry. Kind of hypocritical to have an airport full of private jets bringing your target audience in. Side story, several years ago I was sitting at the kitchen table when the roar of a larger then usual jet leaving our small airport got my attention, then a private 737 flew by. Big story here in town. Turns out the pilot was able to drop off the owner and guests but there was no place to park the jet. So the pilot flew it over the mountain and parked it here. He got in a world of shit for it as the 737 was way over the weight limit of the air field. As we have seen lately, too much money is just an invitation to ignore the rules and expect special treatment. A few years ago I was in Aspen visiting friends, one of whom was a "ski instructor to the stars" (yet still a very nice guy.). He had a client flying in for a few days of instruction who we went up to meet on the mountain. A Saudi prince. He had just flown his F-15 into Aspen non-stop from Riyadh with mid-air refueling en-route courtesy of the US Navy. He showed up at the mid-station at noon dressed in a gold lame flight suit/ski onesie with two bimbos dressed for the disco and announced that the weather wasn't to his liking. So I had a half-day lesson from the instructor on the Prince's dime. (I think it was an F-15. When I saw it, it was a two seater fighter jet with Arabic insignia parked in among all the 727s. and Gulfstreams. I know nothing about airplanes. He did say that he averaged 1200 knots en route. Is that possible?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Innocent Bystander 966 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, Left Shift said: As we have seen lately, too much money is just an invitation to ignore the rules and expect special treatment. A few years ago I was in Aspen visiting friends, one of whom was a "ski instructor to the stars" (yet still a very nice guy.). He had a client flying in for a few days of instruction who we went up to meet on the mountain. A Saudi prince. He had just flown his F-15 into Aspen non-stop from Riyadh with mid-air refueling en-route courtesy of the US Navy. He showed up at the mid-station at noon dressed in a gold lame flight suit/ski onesie with two bimbos dressed for the disco and announced that the weather wasn't to his liking. So I had a half-day lesson from the instructor on the Prince's dime. (I think it was an F-15. When I saw it, it was a two seater fighter jet with Arabic insignia parked in among all the 727s. and Gulfstreams. I know nothing about airplanes. He did say that he averaged 1200 knots en route. Is that possible?) Not possible. F-15 isn’t going to average high supersonic speeds (>M 2)and can only refuel from a probe equipped tanker. The USN uses drogues with the probe on the receiving aircraft. Plus it’s more than 7,500 nm on a great circle route at a fast cruise speed of 480 knots, that’s pushing 16 hours plus time to slow down, descend and refuel and then climb back to cruise altitude. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Left Shift 3,007 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, Innocent Bystander said: Not possible. F-15 isn’t going to average high supersonic speeds (>M 2)and can only refuel from a probe equipped tanker. The USN uses drogues with the probe on the receiving aircraft. Plus it’s more than 7,500 nm on a great circle route at a fast cruise speed of 480 knots, that’s pushing 16 hours plus time to slow down, descend and refuel and then climb back to cruise altitude. I recall he said it took something like 6.5 hours. That seems to agree with the speed estimate. With two re-fuelings, one over the western Med and one near Florida. He had no need to brag -his plane was sitting there in the airport after all.. He was very matter of fact about the US Navy's willingness to refuel him. The F-15 was my guess, because that's just about the only fighter plane designation I know other than the Mustang my uncle flew off the Wasp, or the noisy fucking Growlers our of Whidbey. It was a nasty looking thing, that I know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Windward 444 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 15 hours ago, Left Shift said: I recall he said it took something like 6.5 hours. That seems to agree with the speed estimate. With two re-fuelings, one over the western Med and one near Florida. He had no need to brag -his plane was sitting there in the airport after all.. He was very matter of fact about the US Navy's willingness to refuel him. The F-15 was my guess, because that's just about the only fighter plane designation I know other than the Mustang my uncle flew off the Wasp, or the noisy fucking Growlers our of Whidbey. It was a nasty looking thing, that I know. I would have to imagine that his skis, gold track suit, super-car and escort "companions" were sent ahead via cargo? Not much overhead luggage room on a fighter jet. Customs clearance at his level probably isn't an issue... Jet was probably armed as well. For safety. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chum 412 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 20 hours ago, Grande Mastere Dreade said: pilot: boy this runway sure is short... co-pilot: but look how wide it is.. Approaching Rio Vista, a small airport, with my lawyer friend driving his Cessna 421, a larger fast twin. He always seemed to be a little behind this plane, usually landing long when I was with him. It’s night, he lines up on runway 33, half the length of the proper runway, 25. I thought I was just disoriented in the pattern because things weren’t adding up with his announcements on the Unicom (public channel). Then he turns final on the short runway and it looked like a carrier deck to me as we barreled down towards a small patch of lights. I finally spoke up as we turned and asked if he was sure. He mumbled something then fire walled the engines and raised the gear and flaps and announced he was going around. Most smaller municipal type airports do not have active towers, pilots announce their intentions as they go. It’s a lot like entering a traffic circle in your car, but with a radio to communicate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Left Shift 3,007 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Windward said: I would have to imagine that his skis, gold track suit, super-car and escort "companions" were sent ahead via cargo? Not much overhead luggage room on a fighter jet. Customs clearance at his level probably isn't an issue... Jet was probably armed as well. For safety. I'm pretty sure the girls were locals, if you consider Vegas local. The gold lame ski suit had more buckles and zippers on it than I've got fingers and toes, and nothing like it had been previously seen outside of Wayne Newton's closet. So the girls might have brought it with them. As for the rest, very likely supplied in situ. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billy backstay 1,091 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 If a pilot declares an emergency, all rules are off, IIRC? One of you flyboys can correct me if I am wrong. I was training years ago in a Cessna 152 at the small General Aviation FBO in Chester CT. There was a photo of a Lear or Gulfstream that had landed and taken off from there, on a runway way too short to be legal for that type plane. The pilot was a wealthy young pilot for Whelen Engineering next door, whose daddy was a senior VP. He was probably light on fuel and cargo, so he declared an emergency to land there. At least that's the story I was told at the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foreverslow 285 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 On 12/29/2020 at 2:56 PM, bmiller said: The people who did this probably thought they were really sticking it to the rich guy. Unfortunately the people most affected are the working class residents. A small percentage will hop on their jet and head to Scottsdale, telling the caretaker to call when it's back to normal. Nhaaa, the 1%ers will pick up their cell phone and call the resort/development manager/owner and demand they redeploy the guys plowing streets/shoveling out fire hydrants and get a half a cord of wood up to the house and lit in the great room fireplace Chop Chop, else there could be delays the next time said resort/development needs to refinance long term debt.. Problem solved! Culprit is likely some jackoff from Portland who is pissed the mayor is not going to allow any more looting.. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/portland-mayor-turns-antifa-vows-battle-lawlessness-and-anarchy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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