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Trigger alert: Looks like the end of one whistle blowers persecutions for exposing US governments war crimes.

We need more brave people like him exposing these human cockroaches.

 

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Interesting..

 

 

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Hire a few ex Mossad dudes to snatch him.  And beat him to a pulp before they deliver him to the FBI. 

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On 1/4/2021 at 10:51 AM, Venom said:

Trigger alert: Looks like the end of one whistle blowers persecutions for exposing US governments war crimes.

We need more brave people like him exposing these human cockroaches.

Vets For Peace actually walks the walk about standing up for whistleblowers, and being whistleblowers as well . . . 

not to mention going to jail for speaking truth to power . .

What do you do besides bloviate ?? 

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1 hour ago, Al Paca said:

Hire a few ex Mossad dudes to snatch him.

Who's doing the hiring, you? :D

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2 hours ago, Al Paca said:

Hire a few ex Mossad dudes to snatch him.  And beat him to a pulp before they deliver him to the FBI. 

 

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He's a fucking legend of the first order.  Refused to suck American cock.

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Just-us for all? :ph34r: 

 

   

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Julian is a Saint.

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FAIR is a very good source of media analysis . . . 

The most amazing thing about the news of case against Assange totally falling apart is that . . 

it zero coverage in the MSM 

FAIR "As investigative journalist Matt Kennard (Twitter, 7/1/21) noted: “One of the amazing things about the legal stitch-up of Assange is how brazen it is. They know they can get away with it because the mainstream media refuses to report it.”" 

For background, check out the DW Doco . . . 

https://www.dw.com/en/julian-assange-the-price-of-truth/av-58114078

 

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On 7/4/2021 at 10:02 PM, AJ Oliver said:

FAIR is a very good source of media analysis . . . 

The most amazing thing about the news of case against Assange totally falling apart is that . . 

it zero coverage in the MSM 

FAIR "As investigative journalist Matt Kennard (Twitter, 7/1/21) noted: “One of the amazing things about the legal stitch-up of Assange is how brazen it is. They know they can get away with it because the mainstream media refuses to report it.”" 

For background, check out the DW Doco . . . 

https://www.dw.com/en/julian-assange-the-price-of-truth/av-58114078

 

MSM has not reported it at all.  Nothing in WaPo since the no extradition decision early this year.  NY Times has an article today saying the Biden administration won't jail him in the US and he could serve out his sentence in Australia, this after one of the governments key witnesses said he made his accusations up and the case unraveled.  I find it unconscionable that the MSM won't report on one of the most important press freedom cases still in play today.

MSM just looks like a mouthpiece for the powerful and is doing a good job making themselves untrustworthy and irrelevant.  

 

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I don't think he would be serving all his sentence in Australia, it's just that the State Department promised that the usual prisoner transfer agreements would apply. 

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5 minutes ago, sam_crocker said:

MSM just looks like a mouthpiece for the powerful

True dat - but the damage to press freedom has already been done. 

Mr. Assange may not be a very nice person, but he has suffered greatly for merely doing what journalists are supposed to do. 

Our oligarchic overlords intended his torment to be exemplary. 

 

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3 minutes ago, spankoka said:

I don't think he would be serving all his sentence in Australia, it's just that the State Department promised that the usual prisoner transfer agreements would apply. 

What was that terrible crime that he committed again ?? 

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5 minutes ago, spankoka said:

I don't think he would be serving all his sentence in Australia, it's just that the State Department promised that the usual prisoner transfer agreements would apply. 

You may be right, the NY times has a pay wall and I won't give them my email so couldn't read the whole article.  But the main point is the government's case just collapsed and now Biden is holding out some fig leaf?  Why is the NYT putting this stuff out there when the key story is the witness recanting?  Like I said, just a mouthpiece for powerful.

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13 minutes ago, AJ Oliver said:

What was that terrible crime that he committed again ?? 

I'm not the prosecutor of him. It's just that it would be fraught for Biden to quash an extradition request now. This is because the prosecutors who accuse Meng of lying to the HSBC are many of the same prosecutors who are looking into Trump's lying to banks. Therefore, if Biden quashes the Assange extradition on political grounds-he will face the argument that the Meng extradition is American overreach. If he accepts that argument, then the prosecutors in NY might as well put the Trump case on the back burner since separation of powers/rule of law would appear to be cancelled in politically sensitive cases. 

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1 minute ago, spankoka said:

It's just that it would be fraught for Biden to quash an extradition request now.

That is totally not up to Biden. 

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Yes it is, that is the point. It is within his power to ask the State Department to drop the extradition request. 

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9 minutes ago, spankoka said:

Yes it is, that is the point. It is within his power to ask the State Department to drop the extradition request. 

Sorry, you are mistaken. It has to go through the DOJ first. Biden cannot, and best not, tell them DOJ what to do. 

(Council on Foreign Relations article) 

Extraditions to the United States. A state or federal prosecutor meets with the relevant law enforcement agency to learn about the crime and decide whether an extradition is worth the significant costs. . . . Prosecutors then prepare an application to the Justice Department, which reviews it for sufficiency. If approved, Justice forwards it to the State Department. Upon its approval, the State Department sends the request to the relevant U.S. embassy, which forwards it to authorities in the country of refuge.

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Yes, but we are at the the "country of refuge" stage and thus the extradition request can be quashed by the executive branch. Blinken is Secretary of State, he is in Biden's cabinet, he is head of the State Department. No Biden cannot quash the charges against Assange, but Blinken can drop the extradition by way of his cabinet privilege. 

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13 hours ago, sam_crocker said:

MSM has not reported it at all.  Nothing in WaPo since the no extradition decision early this year.  NY Times has an article today saying the Biden administration won't jail him in the US and he could serve out his sentence in Australia, this after one of the governments key witnesses said he made his accusations up and the case unraveled.  I find it unconscionable that the MSM won't report on one of the most important press freedom cases still in play today.

MSM just looks like a mouthpiece for the powerful and is doing a good job making themselves untrustworthy and irrelevant.  

 

Who was this witness and what was his "key" information about Assange? 

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6 hours ago, Mark K said:

Who was this witness and what was his "key" information about Assange? 

He's just a peach.  Name is Sigurdur Thordarson, he is a convicted sex abuser of minors, financial fraudster, and was a volunteer at Wikileaks and was convicted of embezzlement of $50,000 of Wikileak's money.  He was recruited by the FBI and continued his crime spree while being protected from prosecution by them.  The governments claim is that Assange actively helped Chelsea Manning hack into government computers.  Thordarson claimed Assange had asked him to hack into Icelandic computers to steal recordings of MPs.  This was supposed to bolster the claim that Assange was helping Manning to steal documents while Assange was in Iceland.  Except it turns out that Assange never did ask him to do any such thing.

Good coverage of Thordarson's case here

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I'm not an Assange fan but originally the Obama Administration was not requesting extradition as they saw this as what a journalist would do. It was Tom's boy Shitstain's administration who pressed charges. Tom's other boy Dana Rohrabacher was first dispatched to offer Assange a pardon if he provided information about the DNC leaks. But Assange was arrested April 11 2019 on a US warrant. Like many Shitstainian things that Biden has to unfuck, this is one of them.

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4 minutes ago, Olsonist said:

It was Shitstain's administration who pressed charges. Dana Rohrabacher was first dispatched to offer Assange a pardon if he provided information about the DNC leaks. But Assange was arrested April 11 2019 on a US warrant. Like many Shitstainian things that Biden has to unfuck, this is one of them.

You are correct, the balls in Biden's court now. 

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2 hours ago, sam_crocker said:

He's just a peach.  Name is Sigurdur Thordarson, he is a convicted sex abuser of minors, financial fraudster, and was a volunteer at Wikileaks and was convicted of embezzlement of $50,000 of Wikileak's money.  He was recruited by the FBI and continued his crime spree while being protected from prosecution by them.  The governments claim is that Assange actively helped Chelsea Manning hack into government computers.  Thordarson claimed Assange had asked him to hack into Icelandic computers to steal recordings of MPs.  This was supposed to bolster the claim that Assange was helping Manning to steal documents while Assange was in Iceland.  Except it turns out that Assange never did ask him to do any such thing.

Good coverage of Thordarson's case here

Why is that key? 

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Because without that testimony, the government has a pretty flimsy case that Assange helped hack into the computers.  Having someone testify that Assange asked them to hack into Icelandic computers helps paint a picture of his M.O.  There's otherwise no solid trail of his involvement.  He's just another reporter who got his info from a source.

Manning is not going to throw Assange under the bus, she's already gotten a quarter million dollar fine and jail time for not testifying to a grand jury about him.

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You should tell him that. He is the one that chose to break his bail conditions, and that is why he is where he is now. Whether he is innocent or guilty, is not for the extradition hearings to decide. If he "wins" his current hearing, then presumably he gets deported to Australia which has an extradition treaty with the US. There, the Crown would probably argue that he should go straight to jail precisely because he has a history of violating bail in an extradition case. 

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11 hours ago, sam_crocker said:

Because without that testimony, the government has a pretty flimsy case that Assange helped hack into the computers.  Having someone testify that Assange asked them to hack into Icelandic computers helps paint a picture of his M.O.  There's otherwise no solid trail of his involvement.  He's just another reporter who got his info from a source.

Manning is not going to throw Assange under the bus, she's already gotten a quarter million dollar fine and jail time for not testifying to a grand jury about him.

 It was only to bolster the claim, as you said. Manning has already spilled the beans on Assange, and under oath. That's the way of the world for crusaders. They want to tell all about their holy mission.  HUMIT espionage is a tricky game, a case officer must conduct a very delicate balancing act between inspiration, coercion and maintaining awareness they want to stay out of jail or much much worse.  Ideologues can easily slip into a martyr complex. They also are easy prey for the pros.

 Have you ever wondered why Assange is on a Holy Mission to fight governmental secrets and surveillance and over-reach but never ever says one bad thing about the Russia system?     

      

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26 minutes ago, Mark K said:

Have you ever wondered why Assange is on a Holy Mission to fight governmental secrets and surveillance and over-reach but never ever says one bad thing about the Russia system?    

Because he's Putin's lap dog? Just a guess. :D 

First he was working for the Democrats exposing the Bush war crimes. Then he was working for Trump exposing the rotten corrupt underbelly of the DNC. Now he's playing favors for Putin. Makes prefect sense, Mark. ^_^

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On 7/1/2021 at 2:59 AM, random. said:

He's a fucking legend of the first order.  Refused to suck American cock.

While sucking Russian cock. What's worse?

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43 minutes ago, pusslicker said:

While sucking Russian cock. What's worse?

Anything that he published was not true? (Google "halfwit"). 

What they did with the whistleblower Manning was cool with you?

Torture okay?

No one ever held accountable, perfectly fine?

500,000 dead babies worth it? 

Do you suspect Assange is secretly working with Putin to undermine democracy in America? (Google "tin foil hat")

What time is it? 

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4 hours ago, pusslicker said:

While sucking Russian cock. What's worse?

You must have missed something, he ain't in Russia, he didn't do what one of your countrymen did, he hid there.

I suspect that he just doesn't want to suck cock, no matter what flavour.

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34 minutes ago, random. said:

You must have missed something, he ain't in Russia, he didn't do what one of your countrymen did, he hid there.

I suspect that he just doesn't want to suck cock, no matter what flavour.

What does being in Russia or not have to do with it? Who benefited? Only fucking fascists. You can decide for yourself who they are.

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2 minutes ago, pusslicker said:

What does being in Russia or not have to do with it? Who benefited? Only fucking fascists. You can decide for yourself who they are.

I benefited.  I am not a fascist.

I live in Australia and I thank him sincerely for what he has done.

He is a ...

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3 hours ago, Venom said:

Anything that he published was not true? (Google "halfwit"). 

What they did with the whistleblower Manning was cool with you?

Torture okay?

No one ever held accountable, perfectly fine?

500,000 dead babies worth it? 

Do you suspect Assange is secretly working with Putin to undermine democracy in America? (Google "tin foil hat")

What time is it? 

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From you who idolizes a fat fuck with orange skin, a rats nest of a combover, and wears diapers?

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Old documentary (2012) before they exposed DNC corruption. Pre-shitlib. :ph34r:   

 

 

 

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Can't we just kill him?  

Shitlib Trump/ Pompao fan club. :ph34r:

 

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16 hours ago, justsomeguy! said:

Fer christ's sake.

 

That's it? That's all you shitlibs have got? :D

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2 hours ago, spankoka said:

Meng Wanzhou got off lightly, so maybe Assange should be negotiating with his accusers. 

But does Assange have the quality hostages that Mengs CCP grabbed off the street for her to negotiate with ?

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Assange has that "dead man's switch" he's bragged about. It's sure to contain the reports of now retired diplomats, soldiers and spies. At least if he was actually doing time instead of on remand, he would presumably have access to a library and so on. Meng had the good sense to observe her bail conditions to the letter, Assange had house arrest at one time too-then he blew it. 

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