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Unity, putting differences aside and coming together for the betterment of all. Unity can be forged if there is a shared common goal. How do you find a common goal when even realities are different, when facts are not agreed upon, when what one finds "great" is the others nightmare. How many of you would like to forgive, forget and move on to fix things only to have it torn down as soon as a R government takes power the way Biden is trying to undo the previous EO's? Is this the way forward, coup attempts if elections are lost, undo everything the previous administration has done, influencers riling up the people, spewing lies till it all bubbles over. Unity, a great idea but with whom?

Since I read and heard the calls of unity from Biden and his team there has been this unease that a lot of things are going to be allowed to slide to give the appearance of not being vengeful. This will not make anyone happy, justice must be done, instigators of division and hate must face consequences not get rich taking advantage of the credulous. The 1st is sacred but fomenting a failed revolution not so much. An updated fairness doctrine ought to be imposed onto traditional media and those with large followings to prevent outright deception and fraud as with ads.

I went down to thedonald site now relinked to thepatriots cause the mods were worried the sole owner would cut them out of the grift, there is infighting, discussion on the best way to worship/not worship trump and hate, so much hate and vitriol. Most of the conservative/r forums and foxnews comment section are similar, ill informed, full of bigotry and racism and its not just on the internet, the trump rallies were these comment sections come to life. Many of these people are wilfully misinformed, want to believe and looking for an abuser to scam them of their money and make them march into the Capitol ("he told us to").

Unite with the stupid to ban 5G? Unite with the WS to ban the dark skinned? Unite with MAGA to overturn the elections? Unite with Q to catch the lizard people or whatever TF they are after now? Unite with the majority of republicans who believe it all to be true? There is a slight lull but the vitriol, conspiracies and general negativity will be back in force and if nothing changes it will ultimately lead to a dark dark place.

Understanding comes from understanding the others point of view, so for unity here's a small video...

 

 

 

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Charlie Murphy knows all blessed U N I T Y.

btw, unity doesn't mean shit when there's dumbfucks/assholes in the mix, imo.

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51 minutes ago, justsomeguy! said:

That guy considers nationalism a "good thing"?

SMH

Hannity, talk radio, FB and Twitter is considered news. Ill informed, with years of reinforcement of beliefs based on BS who only want to hear their own views.

The media needs to change, critical thinking needs to be taught or war is coming.

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5 minutes ago, VhmSays said:

 

(snipped clip)

Fox is doing their best with the unity spigot. 

I don't know how everyone else's plumbing works, but the Fox clip seems the 4" waste line, not a spigot.

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2 hours ago, VhmSays said:

Fox is doing their best with the unity spigot. 

Good to see Faux news and the gop reaching out to unify the country and the Ariz. Gop leading the way. shit they can't even unify there own party LOL                                        Arizona Republicans Censure Cindy McCain, GOP Governor

The censures of Sen. John McCain’s widow, former Sen. Jeff Flake and Gov. Doug Ducey are symbolic of the state party’s intense loyalty to Trump.

 

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5 hours ago, justsomeguy! said:

That guy considers nationalism a "good thing"?

SMH

I suppose nationalism is very bad when it involves socialism (fascism) otherwise I think it's basically just another form of tribalism (humans naturally tribalistic). In fact I think the state and media promote it during events like as example the inauguration ceremony. Did you feel all warm and fuzzy?  

Should nations even be allowed to exist? 

Should the Olympic games which exemplify nationalism be censored and banned from all social media platforms? :huh:

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5 hours ago, justsomeguy! said:

That guy considers nationalism a "good thing"?

SMH

Isn't it a matter of degree. Would the complete lack of allegiance to nation be a good thing?

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I think Democrats are making a case that the right no longer has sole ownership of family values, religion and patriotism. Interesting how Republicans have betrayed their morality and Conservative tenets for tax cuts and vengeful competition against liberals. Turns out, ya need liberals for their science, optimism and economic potential, and the people know it.

Unity, at this point, means a portion of society has to recognize reality. They can slink back to their shotgun houses and racial, gender and religious stereotypes, but the march of demographics and democracy will move on.org without them as they stagnate. They've had their last hurrah, and are now busily fragmenting.

What do they have to offer, at this point, other than mob rule at the point of a gun?

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3 minutes ago, roundthebuoys said:
29 minutes ago, Dog said:

Dissent is unpatriotic.

Yep.  See: Capitol insurrection.

Dissent continues to be patriotic.

Insurrection is not patriotic.

That Dog cannot distinguish between the two is a clear indicator of what is wrong with America.

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1 minute ago, roundthebuoys said:

Yep.  See: Capitol insurrection.

Rioting is unpatriotic...Maybe there's some common ground. Is BLM/Antifa rioting unpatriotic?

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Just now, Bus Driver said:

Dissent continues to be patriotic.

Insurrection is not patriotic.

That Dog cannot distinguish between the two is a clear indicator of what is wrong with America.

What makes you think I can't distinguish between rioting and democratic dissent?

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19 minutes ago, Dog said:

Is BLM/Antifa rioting unpatriotic?

It depends on what the protesting/rioting is about, not who’s doing it. Protesting/rioting against racial discrimination by police and the judicial system? Not unpatriotic.

Protesting/rioting for the overthrow of the government? You tell me...or more likely do your standard spin/twist/deflect rather than answer the simple question.

Squirrel!

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16 minutes ago, Dog said:
18 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

Dissent continues to be patriotic.

Insurrection is not patriotic.

That Dog cannot distinguish between the two is a clear indicator of what is wrong with America.

What makes you think I can't distinguish between rioting and democratic dissent?

I never used the word "rioting".

I was simply pointing out there is a difference between an Insurrection and Dissent (which, in Post #18, you said is "unpatriotic")

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16 minutes ago, Dog said:

What makes you think I can't distinguish between rioting and democratic dissent?

You seem to think that AntiFa/BLM have a specific political agenda and have killed a lot of people, constantly threaten to kill a lot more, and have in fact staged a violent insurrection against the Constitutional gov't of the U.S.

- DSK

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4 minutes ago, WhoaTed said:

It depends on what the protesting/rioting is about, not who’s doing it. Protesting/rioting against racial discrimination by police? Not unpatriotic.

Protesting/rioting for the overthrow of the government? You tell me...or more likely do your standard spin/twist/deflect rather than answer the simple question.

Squirrel!

WRT protesting I'm with you. When the BLM/Antifa assholes start clashing with police, burning and looting communities, is that still patriotic?

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25 minutes ago, Dog said:

Rioting is unpatriotic...Maybe there's some common ground. Is BLM/Antifa rioting unpatriotic?

BLM protests were not riots.

There was rioting which occurred AFTER or at the same time as BLM protests, instigated by several different groups. Some were locals, some were out of towners, and some were false flag type stuff designed to make BLM protests appear to be associated with rioting.

Rioting is criminal behavior.

Rioting incited by politicians looking to overthrow the government is insurrection.

Your whataboutism is getting weaker. There are no lefty parallels to scumbag Trump supporters organizing to hunt down the Governor of Michigan or our national leadership to kidnap them, bind them with wire ties and possibly execute them after show trials.

These people are part of an anti-American insurgency and they constitute the greatest domestic national security threat we currently face.

As with many issues of national security, Republicans are working against the best interests of our country by refusing to acknowledge the severity of the threat and its implications, let alone seeking to punish the true leaders of the coup attempt. The GOP, therefore, constitutes a national security threat to America.

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4 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

I never used the word "rioting".

I was simply pointing out there is a difference between an Insurrection and Dissent (which, in Post #18, you said is "unpatriotic")

No...You were not just pointing out the difference between insurrection and dissent, you said that I cannot distinguish between the two. What makes you think that or did you make that up too?

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7 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

You seem to think that AntiFa/BLM have a specific political agenda and have killed a lot of people, constantly threaten to kill a lot more, and have in fact staged a violent insurrection against the Constitutional gov't of the U.S.

- DSK

Why did they target the Federal courthouse in Portland? Was that patriotic?

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1 minute ago, Dog said:

True, but BLM/Antifa riots were.

I've read about BLM organizers being arrested for criminal acts. I've also seen fact checking of numerous false allegations that BLM organized riots across the country. There is a good deal of willful misinformation about this, and you don't have any credibility on this site to blithely refer to "BLM riots" as a thing.

If you are going to make allegations, make sure you are specific. Otherwise, its just more of your usual dogshit.

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3 minutes ago, Dog said:

Why did they target the Federal courthouse in Portland? Was that patriotic?

I will stipulate that criminals who target a federal courthouse are unpatriotic.

But the threat of assassinating specific politicians, planned in advance by teams of insurgents with military training and carrying tools for such a mission being specifically encouraged and directed in their efforts by the highest elected officials in our country is unique to Republicans.

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25 minutes ago, Dog said:

No...You were not just pointing out the difference between insurrection and dissent, you said that I cannot distinguish between the two. What makes you think that or did you make that up too?

I can't speak for BD, but the fact that you continually try to equate two incomparable events certainly gives everyone here the impression that that is exactly what you think.

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30 minutes ago, Dog said:
37 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

I never used the word "rioting".

I was simply pointing out there is a difference between an Insurrection and Dissent (which, in Post #18, you said is "unpatriotic")

No...You were not just pointing out the difference between insurrection and dissent, you said that I cannot distinguish between the two. What makes you think that or did you make that up too?

phillysailor was talking about the toxicity of the GOP, which culminated in an attempted Insurrection.

You responded with -

1 hour ago, Dog said:

Dissent is unpatriotic.

 

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4 minutes ago, Dog said:

 

your crocodile tears are weak as piss and are absurd, similar to your toothless points and weaker than piss deflections here.

you can't change reality, motherfucker, but lo and behold, here you are.

 

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7 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

phillysailor was talking about the toxicity of the GOP, which culminated in an attempted Insurrection.

You responded with -

 

Did you, or did you not say 

"Dissent continues to be patriotic.

Insurrection is not patriotic.

That Dog cannot distinguish between the two is a clear indicator of what is wrong with America."

What makes you think I can't, have I supported insurrection or condemned dissent, or did you just make it up like you are prone to do?

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Just now, Dog said:
13 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

phillysailor was talking about the toxicity of the GOP, which culminated in an attempted Insurrection.

You responded with -

 

Did you, or did you not say 

"Dissent continues to be patriotic.

Insurrection is not patriotic.

That Dog cannot distinguish between the two is a clear indicator of what is wrong with America."

What makes you think I can't, have I supported insurrection or condemned dissent, or did you just make it up like you are prone to do?

philly was talking about the toxicity of the GOP, which culminated in an attempted Insurrection.

Your pithy response was a deflection in a desperate attempt to draw attention away from those criminal acts.

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16 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

philly was talking about the toxicity of the GOP, which culminated in an attempted Insurrection.

Your pithy response was a deflection in a desperate attempt to draw attention away from those criminal acts.

And you were talking about me. I take it you don't want to answer which doesn't surprise me.

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noun
noun: nationalism; plural noun: nationalisms
  1. identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.
     
    Fuck nationalism and nations. What this Earth needs is a good old-fashioned alien invasion.
    Now that might promote some actual unity.
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41 minutes ago, Remodel said:

I can't speak for BD, but the fact that you continually try to equate two incomparable events certainly gives everyone here the impression that that is exactly what you think.

Can we agree that the attack by right wing assholes on the capitol and the attacks by BLM/Antifa assholes on our cities are both unpatriotic?

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5 minutes ago, Dog said:

And you were talking about me. I take it you don't want to answer which doesn't surprise me.

We want an answer about the SAFE Act, when you have spoken so much about your perception of election security (lack thereof)

Although it could also be said that everybody knows you're a fucking liar, so why bother.

- DSK

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14 minutes ago, Dog said:

Can we agree that the attack by right wing assholes on the capitol and the attacks by BLM/Antifa assholes on our cities are both unpatriotic?

Will you agree to stop peddling false equivalencies?

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1 hour ago, Dog said:

Can we agree that the attack by right wing assholes on the capitol and the attacks by BLM/Antifa assholes on our cities are both unpatriotic?

To the extent that all crime is unpatriotic, all riots and destruction of public or federal property is unpatriotic.

If we are comparing apples to apples, then those right wingers who used the cover of BLM protests to kill a federal agent in Oakland or burn a police station in Minneapolis are among the worst of the rioters whose behavior so tarnished BLM protests. But those who stormed the capitol chanting to kill select elected officials and overturn the results of our national election are not similar to any of these examples. 

They are guilty of crimes which carry different meaning. Sedition, tyranny, insurrection, crimes with political intent, crimes which seek to damage the United States of America. Pro-Trump American traitors bludgeoning Capitol Police Officer Brian D. Sicknick with a fire extinguisher until his skull was crushed while taking part in an insurrection in our nations capitol while the Senate was in session is profoundly more unpatriotic than Boogaloo Boi Steven Carrillo assassinating Federal Protective Services Officer Dave Patrick Underwood because of some anti-authoritarian revenge fantasy.

Say their names, asshole.

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45 minutes ago, phillysailor said:

To the extent that all crime is unpatriotic, all riots and destruction of public or federal property is unpatriotic.

If we are comparing apples to apples, then those right wingers who used the cover of BLM protests to kill a federal agent in Oakland or burn a police station in Minneapolis are among the worst of the rioters whose behavior so tarnished BLM protests. But those who stormed the capitol chanting to kill select elected officials and overturn the results of our national election are not similar to any of these examples. 

They are guilty of crimes which carry different meaning. Sedition, tyranny, insurrection, crimes with political intent, crimes which seek to damage the United States of America. Pro-Trump American traitors bludgeoning Capitol Police Officer Brian D. Sicknick with a fire extinguisher until his skull was crushed while taking part in an insurrection in our nations capitol while the Senate was in session is profoundly more unpatriotic than Boogaloo Boi Steven Carrillo assassinating Federal Protective Services Officer Dave Patrick Underwood because of some anti-authoritarian revenge fantasy.

Say their names, asshole.

Do tell

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1 minute ago, Dog said:

Do tell

Boogaloo Boi Steven Carrillo assassinating Federal Protective Services Officer Dave Patrick Underwood because of some anti-authoritarian revenge fantasy. 

On the morning of the attack, Carrillo commented, "Go to the riots and support our own cause. Show them the real targets. Use their anger to fuel our fire. Think outside the box. We have mobs of angry people to use to our advantage."

‘Boogaloo Boi’ charged in fire of Minneapolis police precinct during George Floyd protest

Ya see how its done? Specific examples with documented evidence. Try it when you accuse others of criminal activity, it will slowly improve your reputation and sense of personal honor which is currently at a low point in your life.

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1 hour ago, phillysailor said:

Boogaloo Boi Steven Carrillo assassinating Federal Protective Services Officer Dave Patrick Underwood because of some anti-authoritarian revenge fantasy. 

On the morning of the attack, Carrillo commented, "Go to the riots and support our own cause. Show them the real targets. Use their anger to fuel our fire. Think outside the box. We have mobs of angry people to use to our advantage."

‘Boogaloo Boi’ charged in fire of Minneapolis police precinct during George Floyd protest

Ya see how its done? Specific examples with documented evidence. Try it when you accuse others of criminal activity, it will slowly improve your reputation and sense of personal honor which is currently at a low point in your life.

Dog? Personal honor? 

Oh, please. 

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4 hours ago, Dog said:

No...You were not just pointing out the difference between insurrection and dissent, you said that I cannot distinguish between the two. What makes you think that or did you make that up too?

We think that because you keep equating insurrection with dissent.

The conclusion you can not discern the difference is merely logic.

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1 hour ago, phillysailor said:

Boogaloo Boi Steven Carrillo assassinating Federal Protective Services Officer Dave Patrick Underwood because of some anti-authoritarian revenge fantasy. 

On the morning of the attack, Carrillo commented, "Go to the riots and support our own cause. Show them the real targets. Use their anger to fuel our fire. Think outside the box. We have mobs of angry people to use to our advantage."

‘Boogaloo Boi’ charged in fire of Minneapolis police precinct during George Floyd protest

Ya see how its done? Specific examples with documented evidence. Try it when you accuse others of criminal activity, it will slowly improve your reputation and sense of personal honor which is currently at a low point in your life.

Are the four guys charged with burning the third precinct building right wing assholes?

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24 minutes ago, B.J. Porter said:

We think that because you keep equating insurrection with dissent.

The conclusion you can not discern the difference is merely logic.

Bullshit

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Just now, Dog said:

Bullshit

Yes. Yes you do, quite often, but not very well.

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2 hours ago, phillysailor said:

Boogaloo Boi Steven Carrillo assassinating Federal Protective Services Officer Dave Patrick Underwood because of some anti-authoritarian revenge fantasy. 

On the morning of the attack, Carrillo commented, "Go to the riots and support our own cause. Show them the real targets. Use their anger to fuel our fire. Think outside the box. We have mobs of angry people to use to our advantage."

‘Boogaloo Boi’ charged in fire of Minneapolis police precinct during George Floyd protest

Ya see how its done? Specific examples with documented evidence. Try it when you accuse others of criminal activity, it will slowly improve your reputation and sense of personal honor which is currently at a low point in your life.

Carillo killed two cops. One was the Federal Protective Services officer in Oakland and the other was a Santa Cruz County Sheriff. It was a false flag which then got a big shout out at the Republican National Convention by Mike Pence.

People like Dave Patrick Underwood was an officer of the Department of Homeland Security's Federal Protective Service, who was shot and killed during the riots in Oakland, California. We are joined tonight by his sister Angela. Angela, we grieve for your family and are grateful for his service. And America will never forget Dave Patrick Underwood and his service and sacrifice to this nation.
 
Hannity also runs that nonsense. But Carillo had been captured at that point. Indeed, the FBI Agent In Charge had described Carillo and his accomplice:
 
There is no evidence that these men had any intention to join the demonstration in Oakland. They came to Oakland to kill cops.
 
Carillo was not dissenting. He was murdering. He was murdering for the Pences to lie and the Dogs to believe.
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1 hour ago, Dog said:
2 hours ago, B.J. Porter said:

We think that because you keep equating insurrection with dissent.

The conclusion you can not discern the difference is merely logic.

Bullshit

You equated incidental violence at BLM protests with an attack on the nations capitol, an attempted coup, and the planned capture and/pr execution of members of congress.

You do seem confused on the difference.

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2 hours ago, B.J. Porter said:

We think that because you keep equating insurrection with dissent.

The conclusion you can not discern the difference is merely logic.

 

1 hour ago, Dog said:

Bullshit

That's what he said, but admittedly you are more succinct in this case. 

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1 hour ago, B.J. Porter said:

You equated incidental violence at BLM protests with an attack on the nations capitol, an attempted coup, and the planned capture and/pr execution of members of congress.

You do seem confused on the difference.

"Incidental violence" that's good.  Almost as good as "mostly peaceful"...

Over 30 dead and billions in property damage from that “incidental” violence. Lives, businesses and communities destroyed.

Was the establishment of CHAZ an act of insurrection or was that a street party?

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3 hours ago, Dog said:

"Incidental violence" that's good.  Almost as good as "mostly peaceful"...

Over 30 dead and billions in property damage from that “incidental” violence. Lives, businesses and communities destroyed.

Was the establishment of CHAZ an act of insurrection or was that a street party?

Yes. Riots suck. Almost enough to make America thinks seriously about why people are so pissed off.

Almost serious enough to make us listen to BLM and to athletes who kneel during the anthem.

But not quite.

 

People like you will never listen. Thats why we think you are an asshole.

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What do they do when they get a cop singled out and surrounded? One group protects the cop and the other beats his head with a fire extinguisher to kill him. 
 

Blue Lives Matter Doggy Style. 

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1 hour ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

What do they do when they get a cop singled out and surrounded? One group protects the cop and the other beats his head with a fire extinguisher to kill him. 
 

Blue Lives Matter Doggy Style. 

Dragging out and beating that other officer while flag poles displaying the Blue Lives Matter flag were being waved was particularly ironic.

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13 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

Dragging out and beating that other officer while flag poles displaying the Blue Lives Matter flag were being waved was particularly ironic.

Very special people. Loved. 

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Seems we do have unity wrt assholes behaving badly....We all condemn the right wing Trump supporting assholes who attacked the capitol and we all condemn the left wing BLM/Antifa assholes who have been attacking our cities for the last year.....It's beautiful thing, am I right?

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57 minutes ago, Dog said:

Seems we do have unity wrt assholes behaving badly....We all condemn the right wing Trump supporting assholes who attacked the capitol and we all condemn the left wing BLM/Antifa assholes who have been attacking our cities for the last year.....It's beautiful thing, am I right?

I think all we need here is for Biden to call the BLM/Antifa assholes "special" and assure them that "we love them" and we should be good to go. 

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Fuck Unity , for the last 4 years the Nazi GOP has been stealing from Americans and not doing what's good for the country and democracy , And after their Coup to over throw the country fail , their crying like a bunch of babies , " what about us" 

I laugh that even mega donors and corps are giving them the middle finger, not $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

shit even members are leaving Margot logo  

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44 minutes ago, benwynn said:

I think all we need here is for Biden to call the BLM/Antifa assholes "special" and assure them that "we love them" and we should be good to go. 

after they beat a cop to death with a fire extinguisher to the head. 

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the map hasn't changed too much since the war of southern aggression. some of the light blue states are still mostly dirt and cows. there does seem to be some people learning that there is a better way in a few of those red states. the clownfederacy lost again.

 

 

Map of Confederate, Union and Border states [900x567] : MapPorn

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