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16 hours ago, AJ Oliver said:

Our boat is ready to splash for the season - how about yours ?? 

Your boat is ready to splash? Into fresh water?

Ooooo.

Don't you sail in some stink-boat infested fresh water puddle that at its longest is the same length as our shortest offshore race? 

WTF is there to prep? Pick up a new air horn? 

  

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That is not a lot of stations. Lots of room for minor trickery/adjusting to make it a faster shape. Exaggerated for effect but you'd take max depth (low as possible) at Sta 3 and maybe some max ht. at

I don't know, Zonker did a great job shutting down an apologist for the Aust Association with one rendering and killed off the bullshit that a hull measures because it meets three measurement stations

Launching of first new Mould 12 Etchells (sans Certificate)  

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44 minutes ago, shaggybaxter said:

Your boat is ready to splash? Into fresh water?

Ooooo.

Don't you sail in some stink-boat infested fresh water puddle that at its longest is the same length as our shortest offshore race? 

WTF is there to prep? Pick up a new air horn? 

  

At least he finally quit begging for money. It’s a start. 

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so we're done talking about mold 11 for a few weeks?

sorry, "mould."

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14 hours ago, MRS OCTOPUS said:

Well said "Receiveafisting" , which leads us to the question - why are you even in this thread?

Oooh!  I've been attacked by an octopus!  What should I do?  Quiver in fear?  No, it's strangely exciting - my nipples have gone hard ... be back soon.

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59 minutes ago, Monkey said:

At least he finally quit begging for money. It’s a start. 

Begging for $? What for?! Some YouTube excursion?

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48 minutes ago, ryley said:

so we're done talking about mold 11 for a few weeks?

sorry, "mould."

How all threads end, not with a bang but a whimper.

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12 minutes ago, Fleetwood said:

How all threads end, not with a bang but a whimper.

Only just starting, International Class association gave Australian Association and Pacesetter two months to produce a new plug from Mould 11 to be scanned.

If not conform then Australian Class Association has to biuld a new mould.

The fate of the 25 Mould 11 boats remains unanswered.

 

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6 hours ago, shaggybaxter said:

Your boat is ready to splash? Into fresh water?

Ooooo

In the land down under, are y'all edumacated in the arts of obnoxiousness?  

(Our Club has welcomed many Ozzies and Kiwis and a Coutts or two, including on my own boat. 

How silly of us.) 

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4 hours ago, Recidivist said:

Oooh!  I've been attacked by an octopus!  What should I do?  Quiver in fear?  No, it's strangely exciting - my nipples have gone hard ... be back soon.

Old Octo could serve up quite a slimy fisting of one's fistula I bet.

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12 minutes ago, AJ Oliver said:

In the land down under, are y'all edumacated in the arts of obnoxiousness?  

(Our Club has welcomed many Ozzies and Kiwis and a Coutts or two, including on my own boat. 

How silly of us.) 

Let's just say we have a lower degree of tolerance for bullshit and are prepared to call it.

Like what the fuck has LB reaming you here has got to do with visitors to your club?

"I, AJ, want to move a motion that all Aussies and Kiwis visitors are banned from our club."

"Ooookay ... um, why?"

"Well madam chairperson, there are rude Aussies giving me a hard time on Sailing Anarchy!"

"Hahahahahaaaaa, yeah we saw that you stupid old cunt."

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17 minutes ago, AJ Oliver said:

 

(Our Club has welcomed many Ozzies and Kiwis and a Coutts or two, including on my own boat. 

How silly of us.) 

And how tedious for them. 

 

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21 hours ago, Sail4beer said:

Begging for $? What for?! Some YouTube excursion?

Awhile back he was trying to get people to fund his buddies to go on a nice little cruise. Unfortunately, his habit of implying that anyone who disagrees with him is a Nazi, probably hurt his fundraising. 

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10 minutes ago, Sail4beer said:

If anyone funds my summer trip to Maine, I promise not to call them a Nazi. 

let me know when you're passing Boston and I'll come out and throw you a beer. Stay in Boston on a Wednesday and you've got a beercan ride.

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I'm wondering if this drives up the prices for existing E22 for sale in the association web site, because I can't see how the M11 boats can ever be allowed to race OD

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Pretty interesting announcements on Bar Karate this weekend.

Mold 11 was certified by World Sailing, but someone tried to hide the records??

Mold 11 may be the only certified mold in use and boats from 9 & 10 are the “cheaters”?

and .... not surprisingly.... World Sailing has failed to follow their own regulations regarding auditing manufacturing 

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On 4/13/2021 at 12:01 PM, Parma said:

I'm wondering if this drives up the prices for existing E22 for sale in the association web site, because I can't see how the M11 boats can ever be allowed to race OD

I think you will find if the same scrutiny that has been applied to Pacesetter's mold 11 was applied to the Heritage and Ontario boats then 3/4 of the global fleet would be illegal. The "definition" of what an Etchells should look like is open to considerable argument. This US led crucifixion of mold 11 is driven by bruised egos, nothing more. No basis in fact whatsoever.

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Seems like boats from mould 11 may be the only legal Etchells per latest complete minutes from World Sailing board members.  Also, seems someone at World Sailing was hiding the records that showed Mould 11 was fully certified - had altered their own records but forgot Board members had copies.

So more Americans monkeying around with unsupported arguments?

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12 hours ago, cbulger said:

Seems like boats from mould 11 may be the only legal Etchells per latest complete minutes from World Sailing board members.  Also, seems someone at World Sailing was hiding the records that showed Mould 11 was fully certified - had altered their own records but forgot Board members had copies.

So more Americans monkeying around with unsupported arguments?

If true, wow.

what is your evidence.

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On 1/26/2021 at 8:45 AM, bloodshot said:

Good faith can be very subjective.  Just ask the C420 parents who bought PS2000's knowing they were faster boats but didn't care to inquire why.

Or ask the parents who bought PS2000s because that’s what everyone else was sailing full stop.

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On 5/27/2021 at 8:22 PM, cbulger said:

Listen to Bar Karate podcast from Sunday

 I did. Interesting, but also sad and frustrating in a way. I'm sure they will work it out.

Maybe some boats can identify as Etchells. Or be restricted to corinthian only.

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On 5/27/2021 at 9:51 AM, Abbo said:

I think you will find if the same scrutiny that has been applied to Pacesetter's mold 11 was applied to the Heritage and Ontario boats then 3/4 of the global fleet would be illegal. The "definition" of what an Etchells should look like is open to considerable argument. This US led crucifixion of mold 11 is driven by bruised egos, nothing more. No basis in fact whatsoever.

I think all etchells look like salad bowls but with less freeboard and without the off the wind performance of a salad bowl.

 

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I'm not sure how explosive their similarity to salad bowls is.  Certainly the off wind performance of a salad bowl can be pretty good.

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