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16 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

Sure.  Works for me.  Maybe even throw in ND as a twofer.

Alberta would slide down to fit that hole, might be a win-win. We could drive to see my wife's dad in Saskatchewan in a day.

Assuming there are still things like ferries, and highways.

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10 hours ago, Burning Man said:

Sure.  Works for me.  Maybe even throw in ND as a twofer.

Alberta would slide down to fit that hole, might be a win-win. We could drive to see my wife's dad in Saskatchewan in a day.

Assuming there are still things like ferries, and highways.

Having lived for a relatively short while in Kansas.... God must have really liked FLAT because She made a hell of a lot of it

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Some high points from The Atlantic

 

"The Republican Party has become, in form if not in content, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union of the late 1970s." "Republicans have entered their own kind of end-stage Bolshevism, as members of a party that is now exhausted by its failures, cynical about its own ideology, authoritarian by reflex, controlled as a personality cult by a failing old man, and looking for new adventures to rejuvenate its fortunes."  "This was a time referred to by the last Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, as the vremia zastoia—“the era of stagnation.” By that point, the Soviet Communist Party was a spent force, and ideological conviction was mostly for chumps and fanatics. A handful of party ideologues and the senior officers of the Soviet military might still have believed in “Marxism-Leninism”—the melding of aspirational communism to one-party dictatorship—but by and large, Soviet citizens knew that the party’s formulations about the rights of all people were just window dressing for rule by a small circle of old men in the Kremlin." "A GOP that once prided itself on its intellectual debates is now ruled by the turgid formulations of what the Soviets would have called their “leading cadres,” including ideological watchdogs such as Tucker Carlson and Mark Levin. Like their Soviet predecessors, a host of dull and dogmatic cable outlets, screechy radio talkers, and poorly written magazines crank out the same kind of fill-in-the-blanks screeds full of delusional accusations, replacing “NATO” and “revanchism” with “antifa” and “radicalism.”"

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/02/the-republican-party-is-now-in-its-end-stages/618132/

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11 hours ago, Burning Man said:

Sure.  Works for me.  Maybe even throw in ND as a twofer.

Too much oil and gas up there in the Bakken play to give those to Canada.

They would just give the inhabitants decent health care, extract every last Loonie of oil and gas, field yet another hockey team that can't win a Stanley Cup, and then dump the bitumen and waste back down on us.

But Puerto Rico, now that's a jewel of a state to become our 51st. The abuelas will make us arroz con pollo, the cocktail waitresses will bring us a coco frio, and we luxuriate in one of the most naturally beautiful States in the 54 States of the United States of America.

 

So here we are ... Biden is now back to our standard American method of bombing brown people, this time it's Iranians in Syria, because like every President since Ike, he didn't get the memo that the USA is still the global economic superpower, and we can develop humanitarian solutions that are more effective than explosive solutions. But this is our destiny, apparently, we are bound to blow up every last bit of our own wealth so that China can own us, and neither right nor left see a problem with that.

But Puerto Rico has now voted for statehood three times, and we have a supposedly motivated President, Senate and House to make this happen. If we can't get PR in as our 51st State, then we will have nothing to show for this stretch of good will until the next reactionary neo-con government is voted in. 

The main reason that the people of Puerto Rico, American Samoa,,Guam, Saipan, Tinnian and U.S. Virgin Islands are not full-fledged American citizens is because of abject, rock-in-the-shoe, undeniable RACISM.  We have a chance to end this and move into a more equitable American future. It has to start now.

 

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2 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Having lived for a relatively short while in Kansas.... God must have really liked FLAT because She made a hell of a lot of it

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The flattest I've ever seen was western North Dakota

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Trump's Twitter ban is having some serious side-effects.

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In a swift reversal from 90 days ago, Democrats are now the ones with overpowering social media muscle and the ability to drive news.

The big picture: Former President Donald Trump’s digital exile and the reversal of national power has turned the tables on which party can keep a stranglehold on online conversation.

Across Facebook, Twitter and Instagram, the banishment of Trump and the loss of his massive following have left the GOP barren against Democrats' clout.

  • The combined Twitter following for the 10 elected Democrats with the biggest audiences is 102 million compared to 23 million for the top 10 Republicans. Even taking President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris out of the equation, Democrats' following is nearly triple Republicans'.
  • On Instagram over the last 30 days, the 10 most-engaged Democrats drove 76 million interactions vs. 6 million for the 10 most-engaged Republicans, according to CrowdTangle data. Take away Biden and Harris and the advantage is still double.
  • On Facebook, the top 10 Democrats have generated 2.5x more interactions than top 10 Republicans over the last 30 days, per CrowdTangle data.

Between the lines: Stars from the Democratic primary like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg accrued massive followings over the last few years.

  • With the Trump show crowding out everyone else over the last four years, few other Republicans had a chance to build their profiles.
  • Sens. Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Rand Paul — all of 2016 GOP primary fame — currently have the three biggest Twitter followings among elected Republicans.

The picture for Republicans is particularly grim on Instagram, which has become a home for young, progressive politics.

  • While AOC has 8.9m followers and Sanders has 6.7m, Texas Rep. Dan Crenshaw (2.3m) is the only elected Republican over a million.

Yes, but: Outside of elected officials, Republicans have a bigger bench of social clout, including the Trump family, Mike Pence, Mike Pompeo and the potent right-wing media ecosystem.

Flashback: Democrats slogged through the Trump era powerless to break through the president’s ability to commandeer the national conversation through his Twitter feed.

  • Only after AOC’s election to Congress in 2018 did Democrats have an authentic social media powerhouse to counter Trump’s attention monopoly.

The bottom line: Trump is keeping himself in the 2024 conversation and his continued omnipresence, even without a digital footprint, could keep the rest of the party neutered.

https://www.axios.com/democrats-social-media-trump-fcb99388-0551-4654-be2b-6517076edc2b.html

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1 minute ago, Bus Driver said:

The gift that keeps on giving - 

 

Just dock their pay for every day they miss that the House is in session.  It’s symbolic but it’s something.

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1 hour ago, billy backstay said:

TRUMPS speech at CPAC was total bullshit lies, every one of them...  Can't wait to see the Fact Checkers on this tomorrow!!

So, you're saying it was filled with audience appropriate alternative information with the added courtesy of eliminating any distracting supporting data?

Job done.

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29 minutes ago, Left Shift said:

So, you're saying it was filled with audience appropriate alternative information with the added courtesy of eliminating any distracting supporting data?

Job done.

 

You Sir, possess extremely good perspicacity, today!!

Carry on!! 

 

Disregard the definition below.  I below, I prefer "keen perception, of the obvious!"

 

"noun

  1. the quality of having a ready insight into things; shrewdness.
    "the perspicacity of her remarks"
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2 hours ago, billy backstay said:

TRUMPS speech at CPAC was total bullshit lies, every one of them...  Can't wait to see the Fact Checkers on this tomorrow!!

trump who???

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47 minutes ago, billy backstay said:

 

You Sir, possess extremely good perspicacity, today!!

Carry on!! 

 

Disregard the definition below.  I below, I prefer "keen perception of the oblivious!"

 

"noun

  1. the quality of having a ready insight into things; shrewdness.
    "the perspicacity of her remarks"

Small amendment.

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2 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

What is the intent behind the sound effects at the end?  Sounds like a threat, to me.  And, it would to the Faithful, if the target were a Republican.

 

The cognitive dissonance involved in this logic is astounding to me. 

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On 2/25/2021 at 8:09 PM, Burning Man said:

Why would I want that shithole to be a state?  We already have our own shithole "taker" states like NJ and FL.  What.... do you want to INCREASE the rate of gun crime in the US? **

No, NJ isn't a taker state. It's actually 49th on the list of most Federally dependent states. Pop quiz: how many states do we have? NM, AK and Moocher Mississippi take the podium spots, az expected. Wanna be county WY comes in 12th; kinda disappointing if you ask me. But to your point, your red taker states also have more more gun violence. Well, I suppose if you spend your stimulus checks on quality new bang bang, there will be some casualties.

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700

https://vpc.org/press/states-with-weak-gun-laws-and-higher-gun-ownership-lead-nation-in-gun-deaths-new-data-for-2018-confirms/#:~:text=The state with the highest,higher rate of gun ownership.

Didn't they cover this on your citizenship test?

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24 minutes ago, Olsonist said:

Didn't they cover this on your citizenship test?

I'd like to find a single right winger who could pass a citizenship test.

There was one posted here a year or three ago and I, a furriner - scored in the 90% range.

The right wingers who admitted their results were, at best, in the 70's.

I'd dearly love to see the results of testing the Capitol insurrectionists and their elk like Boebert and Marj.

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11 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

Boebert and Marj.

One of em got destroyed for not knowing that Guam was a us territory.  the rep from Guam brought her cookies with n armed contingent of national guards from Guam.  the other rep basically ripped her a new one over the phone.  Brilliant minds those 2.  

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1 minute ago, shaggy said:

One of em got destroyed for not knowing that Guam was a us territory.  the rep from Guam brought her cookies with n armed contingent of national guards from Guam.  the other rep basically ripped her a new one over the phone.  Brilliant minds those 2.  

https://news.yahoo.com/guam-delivered-promise-gift-rep-053855135.html

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26 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

I'd like to find a single right winger who could pass a citizenship test.

There was one posted here a year or three ago and I, a furriner - scored in the 90% range.

The right wingers who admitted their results were, at best, in the 70's.

I'd dearly love to see the results of testing the Capitol insurrectionists and their elk like Boebert and Marj.

I coached someone (an absolute honey) for the citizenship test. The test is like 'ok'. She passed. The answers are all given in the prep manual and they really don't ask much at the test itself. Indeed the final interview/test is really more of a credibility interview (like for Global Entry). You are correct; very few of the insurrectionists would pass the citizenship test.

A much tougher test is the State Department Foreign Service Officer test.

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Actually, I was thinking of a civics quiz rather than the citizenship test.

Either way, I suspect few of the elk and their fellow travelers would do well.

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The House voted 413-12 on their bill to award the Congressional Gold Medal to Capitol Police & those who protected the Capitol on Jan 6.
 
Those voting "Nay" -
 
Harris (R-MD)
Massie (R-KY)
Gooden (R-TX)
Good (R-VA)
Gaetz (R-FL)
Cloud (R-TX)
Clyde (R-GA)
Steube (R-FL)
Biggs (R-AZ)
Gohmert (R-TX)
Greene (R-GA)
Rose (R-TN)
 
Final Tally: 413-12
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1 hour ago, Bus Driver said:
The House voted 413-12 on their bill to award the Congressional Gold Medal to Capitol Police & those who protected the Capitol on Jan 6.
 
Those voting "Nay" -
 
Harris (R-MD)
Massie (R-KY)
Gooden (R-TX)
Good (R-VA)
Gaetz (R-FL)
Cloud (R-TX)
Clyde (R-GA)
Steube (R-FL)
Biggs (R-AZ)
Gohmert (R-TX)
Greene (R-GA)
Rose (R-TN)
 
Final Tally: 413-12

Southern s one and all.  The 2 from MD and VA are from very rural, heavily red districts

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3 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Actually, I was thinking of a civics quiz rather than the citizenship test.

Either way, I suspect few of the elk and their fellow travelers would do well.

Likewise the average atheist would run rings around the average Christian in a Bible quiz contest.

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1 hour ago, Bus Driver said:
The House voted 413-12 on their bill to award the Congressional Gold Medal to Capitol Police & those who protected the Capitol on Jan 6.
 
Those voting "Nay" -
 
Harris (R-MD)
Massie (R-KY)
Gooden (R-TX)
Good (R-VA)
Gaetz (R-FL)
Cloud (R-TX)
Clyde (R-GA)
Steube (R-FL)
Biggs (R-AZ)
Gohmert (R-TX)
Greene (R-GA)
Rose (R-TN)
 
Final Tally: 413-12

Rock bottom is only the beginning...

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3 hours ago, kent_island_sailor said:

I am in Harris's district. I would vote for food stuck in my sink strainer over him.

My sympathies.  "Dr. No" hit my radar when he had a hissy fit about health insurance before he started his term.

GOP frosh: Where's my health care?

He's done nothing to improve my opinion of him in the intervening years.

The latest is his broken vow to serve no more than 6 terms.

GOP congressman says 'socialists' made him break his promise to retire after 6 terms

Here's hoping Heather Mizeur kicks his ass, next year.

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It's scum from the bottom up. How is he not still sitting in a cell?

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Kansas Senate Majority Leader Gene Suellentrop said Wednesday he is temporarily relinquishing “the bulk” of his formal duties, a day after he was arrested and accused of driving under the influence and leading police on a chase down the wrong lane of Interstate 70, provoking calls from alarmed motorists to 911.

The Wichita Republican leader’s decision, which fell short of resigning his leadership position, came as more details emerged about the bizarre and troubling episode. One caller told 911 the vehicle, a white SUV, “about hit me” and “scared the crap out of me.”

Suellentrop, 69, announced the decision in a written statement Wednesday afternoon after he addressed a rare closed-door gathering of Senate Republicans amid eroding support.

 

“I regret that this incident has caused a distraction for my colleagues and the Senate staff, and most importantly, from the important issues we are debating on behalf of the people of Kansas,” Suellentrop said.

Suellentrop said most of his formal duties would fall to Assistant Majority Leader Larry Alley, a Winfield Republican, “until matters that I am currently dealing with are resolved.” The statement didn’t directly address the allegations against him.

 

For the 90-minute caucus Suellentrop sat quietly in the back of the room. Rather than take his normal seat beside the Senate president, or sit among other senators, Suellentrop took a chair next to staff.

At the end of the meeting, senators filed out while staff distributed Suellentrop’s statement to media. Suellentrop was among the last to leave the caucus room. When asked to comment on the events of the past two days he simply said “refer to my statement.”

The announcement ended more than 36 hours of near-complete public silence from Suellentrop following his arrest early Tuesday morning. His only comment had been a brief interaction with a judge during a courtroom appearance.

Senate President Ty Masterson, an Andover Republican, in a statement applauded Suellentrop for a “prudent decision.”

“It demonstrates respect for his colleagues and the Senate as an institution, as it will allow us to proceed forward without distraction nor delay as he handles the matters impacting him at the present time,” Masterson said.

https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article250010059.html

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Powerful old white dudes don't go to jail. Did y'all miss the memo? 

A 27yo black dude would have gone straight to jail, ifn he survived the LEO encounter.  And, I'm sure some sort of drugs or weapons would be found in the car just to make sure. 

We've all seen this movie a few times before. The third act (here's your ankle bracelet, senator...) is so often very disappointing. 

 

 

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On 2/26/2021 at 10:57 AM, learningJ24 said:

Some high points from The Atlantic

 

"The Republican Party has become, in form if not in content, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union of the late 1970s." "Republicans have entered their own kind of end-stage Bolshevism, as members of a party that is now exhausted by its failures, cynical about its own ideology, authoritarian by reflex, controlled as a personality cult by a failing old man, and looking for new adventures to rejuvenate its fortunes."  "This was a time referred to by the last Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, as the vremia zastoia—“the era of stagnation.” By that point, the Soviet Communist Party was a spent force, and ideological conviction was mostly for chumps and fanatics. A handful of party ideologues and the senior officers of the Soviet military might still have believed in “Marxism-Leninism”—the melding of aspirational communism to one-party dictatorship—but by and large, Soviet citizens knew that the party’s formulations about the rights of all people were just window dressing for rule by a small circle of old men in the Kremlin." "A GOP that once prided itself on its intellectual debates is now ruled by the turgid formulations of what the Soviets would have called their “leading cadres,” including ideological watchdogs such as Tucker Carlson and Mark Levin. Like their Soviet predecessors, a host of dull and dogmatic cable outlets, screechy radio talkers, and poorly written magazines crank out the same kind of fill-in-the-blanks screeds full of delusional accusations, replacing “NATO” and “revanchism” with “antifa” and “radicalism.”"

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/02/the-republican-party-is-now-in-its-end-stages/618132/

 

Worth rereading......EDIT - Please "expand all"

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3 minutes ago, billy backstay said:

 

Worth rereading......

Especially that last paragraph.

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Another lesson from all this history is that the Republicans have no path to reform. Like their Soviet counterparts, their party is too far gone. Gorbachev tried to reform the Soviet Communist Party, and he remains reviled among the Soviet faithful to this day. Similar efforts by the remaining handful of reasonable Republicans are unlikely to fare any better. The Republican Party, to take a phrase from the early Soviet leader Leon Trotsky, should now be deposited where it belongs: in the “dustbin of history.”

 

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Another Republican searching for a new bottom.

“Republican Rep. Chip Roy uses hearing on anti-Asian discrimination to 'glorify lynching' and criticize China”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republican-rep-chip-roy-uses-180200274.html

 

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1 hour ago, billy backstay said:

 

Worth rereading......EDIT - Please "expand all"

That is what I was quoting earlier.  Just could not find the article.  Scary the similarities.  

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1 hour ago, jerseyguy said:

Another Republican searching for a new bottom.

“Republican Rep. Chip Roy uses hearing on anti-Asian discrimination to 'glorify lynching' and criticize China”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republican-rep-chip-roy-uses-180200274.html

 

There really is no bottom. He's a fucking Q loon.

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5 hours ago, gptyk said:

Powerful old white dudes don't go to jail. Did y'all miss the memo? 

A 27yo black dude would have gone straight to jail, ifn he survived the LEO encounter.  And, I'm sure some sort of drugs or weapons would be found in the car just to make sure. 

We've all seen this movie a few times before. The third act (here's your ankle bracelet, senator...) is so often very disappointing.

Senate majority leader arrested, released after allegedly driving wrong way  on I-70 | Kansas Reflector

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12 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Quiz: If The Mutt really was a dog, what breed would he be?

Heinz 57 but he would claim to be a purebred

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this probably belongs in the YCMTSU thread, but I'll put it here-

oregon reTurdlicans a no-show as democrat committee contemplates what to do about oregon reTurdlican no-shows and walkouts. 

 

simpletons, ignorance, willfull ignorance, bullshitters, scumbags, raging assholes, asinine kunts, etc etc...

f u c k  the 'g0p'.

 

 

 

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How a Sham Candidate Helped Flip a Florida Election

The candidate and the man who prosecutors say recruited him to play spoiler in a Florida Senate race last year were both arrested this week.

  • March 19, 2021

MIAMI — The recruitment of the sham candidate began with a Facebook message at around 4 a.m. on May 15, 2020. “Call me,” a Florida legislator turned lobbyist wrote to an old friend. “I have a question for you.”

Later that day, former State Senator Frank Artiles, a Republican, asked Alexis Pedro Rodriguez by phone whether he still owned a home in the suburban Miami village of Palmetto Bay. Because in that case, Mr. Artiles wanted something else: to put his friend’s property and last name to use in the upcoming election.

The incumbent Democrat, State Senator José Javier Rodríguez, was on the ballot. And Mr. Artiles, a crafty political operator with a dubious reputation, had a plan: to plant his friend as a candidate and siphon off votes that could defeat Senator Rodríguez.

The plan worked, setting off one of Florida’s most brazen electoral scandals in years — even by the heady standards of a state that has long been fertile ground for political scammers. What is still uncertain is how broad the scandal is, whether it had touched other races and whether it was part of an organized effort by Republicans or an interest group to sway legislative races.

 

Mr. Rodriguez, a machine-parts dealer who had been struggling financially, agreed to help Mr. Artiles, who promised him $50,000 in return. He switched from Republican to no party affiliation and qualified for the ballot as Alex Rodriguez. He did not disclose that he actually lived far from the district, in Boca Raton, or that the money for his candidacy came from Mr. Artiles.

In November, Senator Rodríguez, an effective legislator who had crusaded for Florida to face the climate change crisis, lost to the Republican challenger, Ileana Garcia, by a mere 32 votes out of more than 215,000 that had been cast. Alex Rodriguez had received 6,382 votes and played the spoiler.

It was a devastating loss for Florida Democrats in a year of Republican successes in the state. It was also the result of criminal behavior, prosecutors say.

On Thursday, Mr. Artiles, 47, and Mr. Rodriguez, 55, turned themselves in for arrest. They were each charged with three third-degree felony charges related to violating campaign finance law, including for conspiracy to make campaign contributions in excess of legal limits, making those excess contributions and false swearing in connection to an election.

Mr. Artiles declined to comment to a scrum of reporters who chased him out of jail on Thursday once he posted a $5,000 bond. “This will be decided in the courts, thank you,” he said.

His lawyer, Greg Chonillo, said in a statement on Friday that his client, whose home was raided by investigators on Wednesday, had been cooperative with prosecutors “throughout the course of this investigation.”

“We will be investigating this matter fully and zealously, representing our client in court against these charges,” Mr. Chonillo said.

The story of how Mr. Artiles plotted the scheme, according to the arrest documents, is a classic South Florida racket complete with the sale of a nonexistent Range Rover and wads of cash stored in a home safe.

But it leaves unanswered the questions of where the money for the scheme came from — the Republican Senate president said the party had nothing to do with it — and whether the funds were tied to secretive dark money that oozed through two other State Senate races last year. Republicans have controlled the state government for more than two decades.

On Friday, Democrats called for campaign finance reform — and for the resignation of Ms. Garcia so that a new election could be held. “Her victory is clearly tainted,” said Manny Diaz, chairman of the Florida Democratic Party.

Prosecutors said they had found no ties between her and the scheme by Mr. Artiles and Mr. Rodriguez. On Friday, State Senator Wilton Simpson, the state’s Senate president, issued a joint statement with Ms. Garcia saying that they “support the ongoing efforts of law enforcement.”

 

“Senator Garcia has the full support of President Simpson as she continues to serve her constituents,” the statement said.

South Florida has an ignominious history of political and electoral shenanigans, both high profile — fraud that was so rampant in a Miami mayoral election in 1997 that a judge threw out the results — and low rent, such as small-time brokers getting caught unlawfully harvesting absentee ballots.

In 2012, former Representative David Rivera, a Republican, was involved in a shadow campaign to try to hurt the electoral chances of his Democratic rival, Joe Garcia. The recruited candidate and Mr. Rivera’s ex-girlfriend, who acted as a go-between, wound up in jail. Mr. Rivera, who was never charged, last month was ordered to pay the Federal Election Commission a $456,000 fine.

On Thursday, Katherine Fernández Rundle, the state attorney for Miami-Dade County, a Democrat, noted that recruiting a sham candidate to deliberately influence an election was not illegal, unless the candidate was also secretly financed.

“Is it an attack on our democracy? Is it a dirty political trick?” she said. “Absolutely.”

At the center of the latest scandal is Mr. Artiles (pronounced are-TEE-less), who before his arrest this week was perhaps best known in Tallahassee, the state’s capital, for resigning from the Senate in 2017, after he cursed at and used a racist slur before a group of Black lawmakers. His political committee had spent money on “consultants” who were models from Hooters and Playboy without any campaign experience. He once denied punching a college student at a bar near the Capitol.

His involvement in recruiting the sham candidate for the Senate District 37 race last year became public in December, when The Miami Herald reported that Mr. Artiles had boasted about planting Mr. Rodriguez on the ballot to a crowd at an election night party held at an Irish pub in Seminole County. “That is me, that was all me,” The Herald quoted Mr. Artiles as saying, citing an anonymous source who was present.

The furor around Mr. Rodriguez’s suspicious candidacy had begun after Election Day, when the results separating Senator Rodríguez and Ms. Garcia, a founder of the group Latinas for Trump, were so tight that they led to a manual recount.

 

Local reporters in Tallahassee, Orlando and Miami found that Mr. Rodriguez along with two mysterious under-the-radar candidates in two other Senate races, one in the Miami area and one in Seminole County, were all likely plants. (Results in the other races were not close.)

Politico Florida tied the three candidates to dark money from two political committees that had sent hundreds of thousands of dollars’ worth of attack fliers to voters during the campaign. The only donor reported was an entity that listed a UPS box in Atlanta as its mailing address. The committees amended their financial reports after Election Day, changing the source of the money to a different donor, this time in Colorado.

Investigators with Miami-Dade County’s public corruption investigations unit began sniffing around on Nov. 11, eight days after the election.

“It was suspicious that Rodriguez did not appear to have actively campaigned,” Detective Eutimio Cepero of the Miami Police Department wrote in one of the arrest documents. “Additionally, it was learned that political committees were spending money in support of Rodriguez’s candidacy, even though Rodriguez did not actively campaign.”

Investigators found that Mr. Artiles ultimately paid $44,708 to Mr. Rodriguez in violation of the state’s $1,000 campaign contribution limit for legislative races. The payments came in various forms, including payments of $3,000 and then $5,000 that Mr. Artiles had stored in his home safe and recorded in a ledger on his desk as well as $2,400 that Mr. Artiles had wired to Mr. Rodriguez’s landlord.

There was much distrust between Mr. Artiles and Mr. Rodriguez, who told investigators he thought Mr. Artiles would not come through with the money he had promised him. At one point, when Mr. Artiles was looking for a used Range Rover to buy his daughter, Mr. Rodriguez concocted a story about finding one in Jacksonville for $10,900. Mr. Artiles paid Mr. Rodriguez for the car, even though it did not exist. (That money was not considered by prosecutors as part of Mr. Artiles’s payments to Mr. Rodriguez for his candidacy.)

 

But where Mr. Artiles got so much cash is still unknown.

“Frank Artiles is not a lone wolf,” said William R. Barzee, a lawyer for Mr. Rodriguez. “Over half a million dollars was spent by political operatives working in the shadows to prop up ghost candidates in three separate Senate races, all in one cycle. This was a well-thought-out, calculated and coordinated plan to steal Senate seats throughout Florida.”

The “greatest beneficiary of these actions,” Mr. Barzee added, “is the Republican Party of Florida.”

Mr. Simpson, the Senate president who ran the Republican Senate campaigns in 2020, has said that he had nothing to do with the effort. “I think we don’t have all the facts,” he told reporters in Tallahassee on Thursday. “We’re learning what you’re learning as you report it.”

“I hope this is just the tip of the iceberg,” said former State Representative Juan-Carlos Planas, known as J.C., who was Senator Rodríguez’s lawyer during the recount and who himself once fought a candidate who had been planted against him: his second cousin, who appeared on the Republican primary ballot as Juan E. “J.P.” Planas.

Senator Rodríguez, 42, lamented that weak enforcement mechanisms continue to allow questionable candidates to make it on the ballot.

“It’s a shame that it has to reach this level of criminality for there to be any kind of consequence, because this is not the first time these types of schemes have been put together,” he said. “But this is the Wild West here in Florida.”

 
 
 
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9 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

Doesn't sound like they are going to rerun that election, which is what should happen. 

It does go a long way to proving that the republicans are correct that there's election fraud happening all over the country though.... They should know, they're the ones doing it.

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This strategy was actually given as an example in Chris Matthew's first book, Hardball. Matthews had been Tip O'Neill's chief of staff and knew a thing or two about campaigning and elections. He didn't say he did it. But he didn't question the technique's legality at all and I don't know for a fact that it even is illegal.  BTW, Artiles isn't getting charged with running a sham candidate. He's getting charged with campaign finance violations.

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https://www.local10.com/news/politics/2021/03/18/ex-florida-sen-frank-artiles-arrested-in-shill-candidate-scheme/

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6 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

Wonder why the resident "expert" on election fraud hasn't commented?

This would be a perfect time for the canine to hold forth about such matters.

 

Are you sure he's not off on a 4 year Cruise, with Bull Gaytor, or whoever it was; hoping they can return here in 4 years time???

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10 minutes ago, billy backstay said:

 

Are you sure he's not off on a 4 year Cruise, with Bull Gaytor, or whoever it was; hoping they can return here in 4 years time???

I don't see Dog and Gaston hanging out, together.  

I do wonder why so many here feel the need to use the "Gaytor" label.  Sounds like a playground insult worthy of The Former Guy.

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6 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

I don't see Dog and Gaston hanging out, together.  

I do wonder why so many here feel the need to use the "Gaytor" label.  Sounds like a playground insult worthy of The Former Guy.

 

 I thought that's what PA was all about?  Forgot to read the precis....

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10 hours ago, Mrleft8 said:

It does go a long way to proving that the republicans are correct that there's election fraud happening all over the country though.... They should know, they're the ones doing it.

They project. All the time.

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1 minute ago, Bus Driver said:

Whatever floats your boat.

 

I truly believe that cold hard cash, or excellent credit floats most boats.  Even if it's been bought and paid for several times over.  

We've been boatless for quite a few years now, occasionally using OPB's, which are a better option anyway!  Hoping to find a 23-26 foot Center Console next year, but there is high demand and low supply here in the past few years. Might consider in IO with closed foredeck, and small cuddy, which are probably more available and cheaper...

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10 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

I do wonder why so many here feel the need to use the "Gaytor" label.  Sounds like a playground insult worthy of The Former Guy.

It's more of a playground insult to the Univ of Floriduh and the concept of Gaston's (aka @Fakenews) Bull gaytor personna.  That gaston/fakenews is gay as a $3 bill is just a bonus.  NTTAWWT.  

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6 hours ago, Burning Man said:
17 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

I do wonder why so many here feel the need to use the "Gaytor" label.  Sounds like a playground insult worthy of The Former Guy.

It's more of a playground insult to the Univ of Floriduh and the concept of Gaston's (aka @Fakenews) Bull gaytor personna.  That gaston/fakenews is gay as a $3 bill is just a bonus.  NTTAWWT.  

Oh, I get the history.  It's just the use of the word "gay" as an insult has a middle-school bully feel to it. 

I am willing to bet you don't see a statement like "being gay as a $3 bill" is homophobic as fuck.

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On 3/19/2021 at 11:04 PM, jerseyguy said:

And yet another one.

“Republican U.S. Rep. Tom Reed accused of sexual misconduct”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republican-u-rep-tom-reed-194320265.html

Yep.  What the fuck is with these moralizing hypocrites?  He calls for Governor Cuomo's resignation, yet engaged in similar (or worse) shit, himself.

This is like all those fuck-knuckles who raised hell over the Clinton-Lewinsky affair, while banging their own mistresses.

‘Sorry’: GOP US Rep. Tom Reed retiring amid misconduct claim

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5 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

Yep.  What the fuck is with these moralizing hypocrites?  He calls for Governor Cuomo's resignation, yet engaged in similar (or worse) shit, himself.

This is like all those fuck-knuckles who raised hell over the Clinton-Lewinsky affair, while banging their own mistresses.

‘Sorry’: GOP US Rep. Tom Reed retiring amid misconduct claim

They missed the part about not casting stones unless without guilt

- DSK

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3 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

Yep.  What the fuck is with these moralizing hypocrites?  He calls for Governor Cuomo's resignation, yet engaged in similar (or worse) shit, himself.

This is like all those fuck-knuckles who raised hell over the Clinton-Lewinsky affair, while banging their own mistresses.

‘Sorry’: GOP US Rep. Tom Reed retiring amid misconduct claim

They project. It's what they do. Trump was the biggest projector of all time.

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16 minutes ago, Nice! said:

They project. It's what they do. Trump was the biggest projector of all time.

If memory serves that's an old Lee Attwater or Karl Rove rule.  Always accuse the other side of that which you are doing yourself. The Bush family used that rule quite a bit back in the day. 

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21 minutes ago, Thistle3868 said:

Dude did finally resign announce he won't seek reelection after getting caught with his hand in the jar.  Clinton?  Cuomo?  Crickets?

Edited for accuracy...my bad.

You missed the point. 

I am unaware of Clinton or Cuomo listed taking a holier-than-thou attitude and calling for the resignation of folks who were pulling the same shit they were.

For the record, I see them all as dirtbags for such behavior.  But, only one of the three were are discussing has proven himself to be a hypocritical dirtbag.

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12 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

You missed the point. 

I am unaware of Clinton or Cuomo listed taking a holier-than-thou attitude and calling for the resignation of folks who were pulling the same shit they were.

For the record, I see them all as dirtbags for such behavior.  But, only one of the three were are discussing has proven himself to be a hypocritical dirtbag.

Newt Gingrich would fit that same mold.

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9 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said:

Newt Gingrich would fit that same mold.

Not to mention Henry Hyde.  

While Hyde was spearheading the impeachment of President Bill Clinton in the Monica Lewinsky affair, it was revealed that Hyde himself had conducted an extramarital sexual affair with Cherie Snodgrass who was also married. Hyde admitted to the affair and attributed the relationship as a "youthful indiscretion". He was 41 years old and married when the affair occurred. Hyde said the affair ended when Snodgrass' husband confronted Mrs. Hyde. At the time, Snodgrass was also married and had three children.

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And, I am sorry.  "Youthful indiscretions" at age 41 are bullshit.

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29 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

You missed the point. 

I am unaware of Clinton or Cuomo listed taking a holier-than-thou attitude and calling for the resignation of folks who were pulling the same shit they were.

For the record, I see them all as dirtbags for such behavior.  But, only one of the three were are discussing has proven himself to be a hypocritical dirtbag.

They should all just say "she isn't my type" and expect that to be the end of it. 

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12 hours ago, Mrleft8 said:

Newt Gingrich would fit that same mold.

One of the great disappointments of my life is that Newt was never caught with his fingers in the till or with young boys.

I was sure he would be - he just had that look.

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