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1 hour ago, Kate short for Bob said:

But you haven't posted the truth. 

Big call for a lying cunt that you are.

The most disturbing part of your behaviour Mikey is that you know that you are lying.

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You have been punted for lying about important community safety before.  Getting close to that again!

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Posting here is like being in the middle of a flat earther convention. You guys are just so convinced you're right - just badly ignoring all the data and science that says 'the earth is round'

I think this is an example of the most insidious and selfish behavior possible. You are lumping the risks of ALL age groups, into one, homogenous group. This is, of course, wildly inaccurate.

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1 hour ago, Randro said:

Big call for a lying cunt that you are.

The most disturbing part of your behaviour Mikey is that you know that you are lying.

 

What have I lied about?

Note:  I have yet to resort to name calling, abuse and swearing to make a point.  

PS:  My name isn't Mikey.  I haven no idea who Mikey is.

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1 hour ago, Kate short for Bob said:

What have I lied about?

Note:  I have yet to resort to name calling, abuse and swearing to make a point.  

PS:  My name isn't Mikey.  I haven no idea who Mikey is.

So saying the science around mask wearing isn't conclusive isn't a lie? When there's plenty of evidence that mask wearing lowers transmission?

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PSA:

There is no conclusive and widely accepted study that proves that wearing masks does not work against spreading infections.

Thank you for your attention.

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5 hours ago, Kate short for Bob said:

What have I lied about?

Note:  I have yet to resort to name calling, abuse and swearing to make a point.  

PS:  My name isn't Mikey.  I haven no idea who Mikey is.

Everything you post is a lie,

And about Mikey, Mikey ...

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12 hours ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Others have.

 

Is the reason none of you can post any peer reviewed research showing masks were significantly effective in limiting transmission is because there isn't any?

I've only seen one paper detailing a controlled experiment regarding mask use so far.  That was research performed in Denmark.  Its conclusion was there was no significant difference.

That conclusion aligned with decades of research and WHO recommendations prior to this pandemic.  It must be noted that those recommendations were based on a virus with greater infection and fatality rates than Covid-19.

The reality is, which many refuse to accept, is that regardless of what interventions are imposed the pandemic has followed the same course.  The only exceptions being where countries have managed to keep the virus beyond their borders at considerable cost.

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1 hour ago, Kate short for Bob said:

Is the reason none of you can post any peer reviewed research showing masks were significantly effective in limiting transmission is because there isn't any?

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No it's because you've ignored everything I've cited, so why waste my time on a dumbass like you

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12 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

Not to mention that the flu which is also an aerosol spread virus was almost non-existent this year. That people were wearing masks is one hell of a coincidence.

Cancer deaths, treatments and diagnosis are all well down this last 12 months as well. These masks are surely wondrous things.

Of course influenza cases being down (it isn't non-existent as they are still recording 0.8 cases per 100,000) is all due to wearing masks and has nothing to do with:

  • More people have been vaccinated against influenza in the USA (if not globally) in the last 12 months than in previous years;
  • Over 188 million doses of flu vaccine have been distributed so far this year.

    That’s a sharp increase from the 169 million doses that had been sent out at this time last year, and 163 million doses that were distributed at this point in 2018.

    Schaffner believes most of these doses have been inoculated into people.

    “Flu vaccination in the community started earlier this year, as recommended by the CDC, and our community physicians report that vaccine uptake has been higher than usual,” said Dr. Marie-Louise Landry, a Yale Medicine infectious diseases expert and the director of the Yale Clinical Virology Laboratory.

    The CDC reported that as of Nov. 21, 44.5 million flu vaccines had been administered in adults in pharmacies so far this year, compared to 30.4 million at the same time in 2019.

  • Unlike Covid-19 children are more prone to symptomatic cases of influenza than adults - closing schools may have stopped the spread of influenza;

  • “It is scattered pretty much throughout the country; it’s not as though some places have a lot and other places have nothing. It’s kind of scattered and stuttering out there throughout the country,” Schaffner said.

    H1N1 appears to be the predominant strain right now, according to Schaffner. H1N1 struck toward the end of the 2019–2020 flu season and has likely carried over into this season.

    Foxman said even though activity is currently mild, the flu could still take off.

    “The exact timing of flu season varies from year to year, so we cannot be complacent, and it is very important for everyone to get the flu vaccine this year,” Foxman said.

  • Travel both within and to and from counties has always been recognised as a key vector for the spread of influenza.  

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3 minutes ago, Kate short for Bob said:

These masks are surely wondrous things.

To most people, they are pretty straightforward. But hey, every one at their own pace, I guess.

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3 minutes ago, Kate short for Bob said:

Interesting too how record low levels of influenza have been reported in Sweden.

Young Padawan:

Remember: there is a difference whether you report something 'in Sweden' or 'from Sweden'.

But it doesn't matter without a source or at least a timely reference, so we let that pass.

 

The last official report was concerned with the 2019 / 20 season and reported a mild season.

https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/publicerat-material/publikationsarkiv/i/influenza-in-sweden-2019-2020-season/?pub=80782

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3 minutes ago, Matagi said:

To most people, they are pretty straightforward. But hey, every one at their own pace, I guess.

Trying telling that to a child under the age of 7!  Probably why most countries don't enforce children to wear masks.  Part of the reason also is it is difficult enough to get adults to follow the correct protocols from putting on and taking off masks.  If you get that protocol wrong then using a mask was a waste of time as the outside of the mask has acted as an accumulator. 

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5 minutes ago, Kate short for Bob said:

Trying telling that to a child under the age of 7!  

I just did.

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2 minutes ago, Matagi said:

The last official report was concerned with the 2019 / 20 season and reported a mild season.

https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/publicerat-material/publikationsarkiv/i/influenza-in-sweden-2019-2020-season/?pub=80782

That was for the pre-covid year not the last 12 months.  Keep up Grasshopper!

The "mild season" in the 2019-20 year was suggested as a reason why the initial high Covid-19 mortality amongst the very old in residential care.  It was also significantly milder than its Nordic neighbours.

The latest season in Sweden has been reported as a record low which is backed up by the EDC and WHO surveillance programmes.

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4 minutes ago, Kate short for Bob said:

That was for the pre-covid year not the last 12 months.  Keep up Grasshopper!

 

I fully agree and never claimed otherwise.

Our test subject here however opted to not substantiate his view any further with a link or something just as eye-opening.

Remember, young Padawan: you, too, can post links and statistics to confuse your opponent. 

But be wise when to use this tactic. 

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I have not, will not and currently am in no way not denying that it is not an unusual season with less than few numerous cases.

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17 minutes ago, Matagi said:

I have not, will not and currently am in no way not denying that it is not an unusual season with less than few numerous cases.

So getting back to @d'ranger's hypothesis that "wearing masks has resulted in influenza being non-existent".  It would appear that low levels of influenza is the result of a number of factors given that countries with varying levels of stringency have all had low levels of influenza.  One of the perennial flaws in influenza case number determination particularly when comparing it Covid-19 is the lack of comprehensive testing programs.  Certainly not at the level we see with Covid-19.  Influenza case number determination globally is based on the extrapolation of respiratory disease presentation and random sentinel testing.

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Why do you keep using these " " , instead of ' ' ? 

Looks suspiciously German to me. 

Not that there is anything wrong with that. I mean, there's a lot wrong about that, but it wouldn't make you a bad person.

And I should know.

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It's certainly not getting better in India. Anyone here noticed the jump in last 2 weeks?

3 days now of over 300,000 new cases PER DAY and growing, not quite, exponentially. Deaths at over 2,500 yesterday and growing. New Delhi's hospital system overwhelmed and basically broken down. Not enough O2 available, morgues overflowing. Awful stuff yet nothing noted here from what I could tell looking upthread. Maybe it's mentioned in another thread.

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Been watching India from the very beginning of this.  Never accepted the happy happy story being projected.

Now, whatever the story, it is way worse than is being reported because most of what happens there is ... not reported.

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On 4/23/2021 at 7:17 AM, Kate short for Bob said:

So getting back to @d'ranger's hypothesis that "wearing masks has resulted in influenza being non-existent". 

For fuck sake either give then denial bullshit away Mikey or admit you are shilling for a living.

No one, not even you are that fucking dumb, or are you?

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38 minutes ago, Alhadder said:

It's certainly not getting better in India. Anyone here noticed the jump in last 2 weeks?

3 days now of over 300,000 new cases PER DAY and growing, not quite, exponentially. Deaths at over 2,500 yesterday and growing. New Delhi's hospital system overwhelmed and basically broken down. Not enough O2 available, morgues overflowing. Awful stuff yet nothing noted here from what I could tell looking upthread. Maybe it's mentioned in another thread.

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No, you're right. The world didn't really pay attention until days ago. Germany shutting down inbound travel for Non-Germans from India from Sunday night. 2 flights from Delhi, 1 from Bangalore still inbound to FRA tomorrow. 

I cannot see how this particular one is to be brought under control. It's also a reminder why it's vital to give universal access to vaccines. In this case, though, the ship has sailed.

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3 hours ago, Matagi said:

Put into the context of population.

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I was going to make the same point. The key differences with India are a) rate is going up sharply and b) the ability of the country to deal with the problem compared to a developed country like Canada or the US.

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11 hours ago, Alhadder said:

It's certainly not getting better in India. Anyone here noticed the jump in last 2 weeks?

3 days now of over 300,000 new cases PER DAY and growing, not quite, exponentially. Deaths at over 2,500 yesterday and growing. New Delhi's hospital system overwhelmed and basically broken down. Not enough O2 available, morgues overflowing. Awful stuff yet nothing noted here from what I could tell looking upthread. Maybe it's mentioned in another thread.

I’ve been cringing for them for a couple weeks.    When I started the thread I’d thought they were somehow safe, either due to their young population or prior immunity.    I don’t know how they escaped so lightly to be hit so hard.  

 Who knows how high their death toll really is.  Officials have a reputation for not filing anything without a bribe, so a massive undercount is likely.    They are also short of tests, so missing cases.    This isn’t merely inability to handle a small percent of a massive population being ill.  
 

Especially sad was the 24 that died while they struggled to fix an oxygen leak from a truck to a hospital.    There was no reserve supply.    Imagine the poor maintenance guy.   I saw a news report today of a hospital that only got a partial requisition, a 10 minute supply for all that needed it.   

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BUT, BUT, it can't possibly be killing people, it's just a little flu! 

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Some countries are in worse shape than the US during the winter, which takes some real incompetence, right up there with the Trumpists. Others are getting there.

 

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3 hours ago, Kate short for Bob said:

27,000 people die a day in India in an average year.  2000 a day from dysentery and 1200 a day from tuberculosis.  Both treatable diseases.  

Why don't you just fuck off with you bullshit Mikey?

Must be a cunt to have to spread this shit for a living.  Do yourself a favour and get a real job.

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10 minutes ago, Randro said:

Why don't you just fuck off with you bullshit Mikey?

Must be a cunt to have to spread this shit for a living.  Do yourself a favour and get a real job.

It's not bullshit they are the facts.  Why don't you challenge the poster that posted that 7 million people a year die of typhoid and cholera?

What is wrong with raising awareness that there are other treatable diseases that have been killing people for years.

If there is one positive out of Covid-19 that is that the general awareness of disease in society will have increased.  Or will it be a case of "We have all been vaccinated and herd immunity has been achieved so let's get back to normal".

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