Matagi 795 #1 Posted February 13 Yes, we are starting this now For the time being, let's keep track of available boats and with which programme they might end up with, who we think is likely to enter in 2024 (if we make it this far...) and who the lucky sponsor is. Let the rumor games ... a begin!!! Here's what we know of the boats Boat available (2020 name) Port Year Foil Designer Asking (*= rumored) Comment Seaexplorer Monaco 2015 Yes VPLP € 2.5 m suffered damage Groupe Apicil France 2008 No Finot-Conq € 1 m* refit 2018 Campagne de France France 2006 No Owen-Clarke € 0.49 m Completed VG 2020 Omia France 2007 No Farr € 0.75 m Completed VG 2020 TSE 4 My Planet France 1998 No Lombard unknown Completed VG 2020 Eyesea France 2014 No Nandor Fa € 0.8 m Last New-Built w/o foils One Planet France 1999 No Owen-Clarke € 0.3 m V and B France 2007 Yes VPLP € 1 m* Hugo Boss UK 2018 Yes VPLP unknown suffered structural damage La Fabrique France 2007 Yes Finot-Conq unknown Merci NZ 2005 No Lavranos unknown suffered damage And of the skippers: Skipper Nationality Boat (*=rumored) Designer (*=rumored) Sponsor (*=rumored) Probability Hare, Pip UK Probably used 2016 gen Unknown Medallia* 70% Herrmann, Boris GER New* Unknown TBA 80% Bestaven, Yannick FRA Unknown Unknown TBA 80% Sorel, Maxime FRA Occitane en Provence* Unknown TBA 80% 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yl75 1,068 #2 Posted February 14 Jérémie is rumored to launch a new Sam Manuard design for 2024 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matagi 795 #3 Posted February 14 That would be interesting. Charal would surely be one of the boats you would want to have, if you're in the market for a 2nd hand boat. Sam Manuard will be a very interesting designer to watch, will keep VPLP and FC on their heels. I would love to see someone ordering a Thomas Tison project, I think he is on a very interesting path with his latest Mini. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varan 1,947 #4 Posted February 14 I sure would like to see a collaboration between Sam Manuard and Guillaume Verdier. If they could work together, my guess is the result would be note worthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stief 4,075 #5 Posted February 15 From twitter: "A press conference by @LouisBurtonOff and Bureau Vallée will take place tomorrow at noon. The program for the next few years will be revealed, as well as "two important pieces of information" (a boat?)" https://twitter.com/CapVG20/status/1361221506194411523?s=20 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bebmoumoute 1,110 #6 Posted February 15 The young Violette Dorange has launched her campaign and is looking for partners : https://fb.watch/3GIKxANkVc/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bebmoumoute 1,110 #7 Posted February 15 Louis Duc, Class40 skipper from Normandy, has bought the old PRB (the one Vincent Riou rescued Le Cam with back in 2008) for the 2024 race. https://www.letelegramme.fr/voile/vendee-globe/louis-duc-se-lance-vers-le-vendee-globe-2024-12-11-2020-12655429.php?share_auth=d1fde84947d28cc105aea4a23a48a808&fbclid=IwAR3eVjznMr9GoFKRmji4Iz8pSQxUPWQ8rt4avlB_VHkwjm8Z-TPdZhHCxTI https://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Histoire des 60'/E41.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bebmoumoute 1,110 #8 Posted February 16 Louis Burton has bought L'Occitanne https://twitter.com/CapVG20/status/1361638628208889857?s=20 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bebmoumoute 1,110 #9 Posted February 16 More details here: https://www.letelegramme.fr/voile/louis-burton-confirme-le-rachat-de-l-imoca-d-armel-tripon-16-02-2021-12705295.php Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matagi 795 #11 Posted February 16 Skipper Nationality Boat Design Sponsor Start 2024 likely? Hare, Pip UK Probably used 2016 gen Unknown Medallia* 70% Herrmann, Boris GER New* Unknown TBA 80% Bestaven, Yannick FRA Unknown Unknown TBA 80% Sorel, Maxime FRA Unknown Unknown TBA 50% Louis Burton FRA Ex-L'Occitane en Provence Sam Manuard Bureau Vallée 99% Louis Duc FRA Ex-Maitre Coq, PRB (2006) Farr TBA 80% Violette Dorange FRA Unknown Unknown TBA 40% 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowden 311 #12 Posted February 16 I can't see Maxime's V&B going around again. It suffered damage this year despite an extensive refit and has caused trouble for other skippers in the past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matagi 795 #13 Posted February 16 I'm pretty sure it will remain on the circus, it will be a matter of price. If someone is intrigued enough by the upgrades to invest in the structure, then it will die another day. But I agree, probably one of the most worn out newer hulls around with a questionable history. It would be a good platform for someone who sails to arrive, not to compete. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Roller 200 #14 Posted February 16 3 hours ago, Matagi said: Skipper Nationality Boat Design Sponsor Start 2024 likely? Hare, Pip UK Probably used 2016 gen Unknown Medallia* 70% Herrmann, Boris GER New* Unknown TBA 80% Bestaven, Yannick FRA Unknown Unknown TBA 80% Sorel, Maxime FRA Unknown Unknown TBA 50% Louis Burton FRA Ex-L'Occitane en Provence Sam Manuard Bureau Vallée 99% Louis Duc FRA Ex-Maitre Coq, PRB (2006) Farr TBA 80% Violette Dorange FRA Unknown Unknown TBA 40% This is very cool mate, please keep it updated do you think Alex will go again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matagi 795 #15 Posted February 16 22 minutes ago, 45Roller said: This is very cool mate, please keep it updated do you think Alex will go again? Thanks Alex, sure, 5 times the charme... Not with Hugo Boss as sponsor, in my opinion, the whole fashion industry is toast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Roller 200 #16 Posted February 16 35 minutes ago, Matagi said: Thanks Alex, sure, 5 times the charme... Not with Hugo Boss as sponsor, in my opinion, the whole fashion industry is toast. Yeah true, possibly Ineos will sponsor him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yl75 1,068 #17 Posted February 16 Ineos fracking is kind of a tough sponsor to manage regarding PR, somehow But Alex is quite good at green washing, so why not .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matagi 795 #18 Posted February 16 49 minutes ago, yl75 said: Ineos fracking is kind of a tough sponsor to manage regarding PR, somehow But Alex is quite good at green washing, so why not .. If you manage that THE professional cycling team promotes your gas guzzling Landy impersonator, you will pull this one off, too. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
winchfodder 307 #19 Posted February 17 15 hours ago, yl75 said: Ineos fracking is kind of a tough sponsor to manage regarding PR, somehow But Alex is quite good at green washing, so why not .. Don't mention the War! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiji Bitter 1,496 #20 Posted February 17 Jim Rat Ineos will want to persevere with the America's Cup, and is unlikely to sponsor another accident prone sailor, I would think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stief 4,075 #21 Posted February 19 Building "11-2" and attempting a carbon balance sheet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matagi 795 #22 Posted February 22 Boat available (2020 name) Port Year Foil Designer Asking (*= rumored) Comment Seaexplorer Monaco 2015 Yes VPLP € 2.5 m suffered damage Groupe Apicil France 2008 No Finot-Conq € 1 m* refit 2018 Campagne de France France 2006 No Owen-Clarke € 0.49 m Completed VG 2020 Omia France 2007 No Farr € 0.75 m Completed VG 2020 TSE 4 My Planet France 1998 No Lombard unknown Completed VG 2020 Eyesea France 2014 No Nandor Fa € 0.8 m Last New-Built w/o foils One Planet France 1999 No Owen-Clarke € 0.3 m V and B France 2007 Yes VPLP € 1 m* Hugo Boss UK 2018 Yes VPLP unknown suffered structural damage La Fabrique France 2007 Yes Finot-Conq unknown Merci NZ 2005 No Lavranos unknown suffered damage Stark France 2007 No Owen-Clarke unknown last finisher 2021 Pure Best Western France 2007 No Farr unknown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jhc 151 #23 Posted February 23 On 2/19/2021 at 2:25 PM, stief said: Building "11-2" and attempting a carbon balance sheet. Interesting video. I've noticed VPLP, and 11th Hour have stepped up the press releases. Is there a connection to: the seeming rift in IMOCA future planning, relatively poor results of new boats in Vendee 2020, reliability issues versus budget? I sense there are two factions competing for IMOCA future. One side advocating more one design components, to increase reliability, and decrease outrageous budget requirements to remain competitive. And the other a continuation of development, and liberalizing the one design aspects, keels, and masts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stief 4,075 #24 Posted February 23 12 hours ago, jhc said: Interesting video. I've noticed VPLP, and 11th Hour have stepped up the press releases. Yes, 11th Hour is keeping the press fed (latest here Get to Know Wade Morgan – Build Manager ) As for the musings about the future, agree. The tension between OD and innovation is there. Never did understand the idea that OD stifles innovation, when it seems OD is just the broader implementation of successful innovation. The IMOCA Class can benefit making Innovation more open in the pre-VG races, and then go OD on the proven innovations for the Vendee Globe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jhc 151 #25 Posted February 23 4 hours ago, stief said: Yes, 11th Hour is keeping the press fed (latest here Get to Know Wade Morgan – Build Manager ) As for the musings about the future, agree. The tension between OD and innovation is there. Never did understand the idea that OD stifles innovation, when it seems OD is just the broader implementation of successful innovation. The IMOCA Class can benefit making Innovation more open in the pre-VG races, and then go OD on the proven innovations for the Vendee Globe. I read your long, and short replies. Appreciate your candor, and reluctance to address all the issues around this. I’m reluctant to take sides, can see some merit to both. Leaning toward reliability, safety. And toward promoting a sustainable model, with greater participation. Would be best to promote the sailor’s ability over their organization’s propensity to raise, and spend money. The sustainability of IMOCA is at stake. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
huey 2 619 #26 Posted February 23 https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/235262/?source=email Phil Sharp announces zero emission hydrogen campaign that will culminate in the 2024 Vendée Globe by OceansLab 15 Feb 17:23 GMT Phil Sharp, Genevos Hydrogen Power Module © Gilles Delacuvellerie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matagi 795 #27 Posted February 28 Skipper Nationality Boat Design Sponsor Start 2024 likely? Hare, Pip UK Probably used 2016 gen Unknown Medallia* 70% Herrmann, Boris GER New* Unknown TBA 80% Bestaven, Yannick FRA Unknown Unknown TBA 80% Sorel, Maxime FRA Unknown Unknown TBA 50% Louis Burton FRA Ex-L'Occitane en Provence Sam Manuard Bureau Vallée 99% Louis Duc FRA Ex-Maitre Coq, PRB (2006) Farr TBA 80% Violette Dorange FRA Unknown Unknown TBA 40% Phil Sharpe UK Unknown Unknown Zero Emission 40% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chasm 617 #28 Posted February 28 On 2/23/2021 at 8:50 PM, huey 2 said: https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/235262/?source=email Phil Sharp announces zero emission hydrogen campaign that will culminate in the 2024 Vendée Globe I hope that the class gets alternative propulsion systems sorted out for everyone. Conrad had one in 2016/17, AFAIk there is no reason not to do it again. The OceanVolt system seems also to be a lot more robust at speed than the watt&sea generators. There was quite a bit of unneccesary drama with generators damaged or even ripped off in sudden overspeed events. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
