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3 minutes ago, Thewas said:

Wise choice. Gaggia has the important things done in the right way.
I needed also a grinder so I went for a DeLonghi Specialista. Good stuff and great aesthetics, but not sure about the value for money. 
Still think Gaggia make better coffee, at this price point.

I questioned my wife once about the cost of a rug, her response:

There is no luggage rack on a hearse

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I can see all the courses from where I am and there is very little wind in the harbour. 3kn max.  Much less than yesterday.  The only hope is for the seabreeze to come in the afternoon but even Predictwind is not promising much I'm afraid.

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2 minutes ago, Jean-Baptiste said:

I questioned my wife once about the cost of a rug, her response:

There is no luggage rack on a hearse

She is a wise woman. 

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5 minutes ago, Stingray~ said:

Locked 3-apiece, Team New Zealand and Luna Rossa will be looking to the weather gods - and the possibility of strengthening winds - as a key factor in the coming days.

The America's Cup rivals return to the Hauraki Gulf today for two more races and what could be a decisive day of foiling - they each need to win four more races in the best-of-13 series to lift the Auld Mug.

The first six races have been in lighter airs - with the leading boat at the start gaining a massive advantage - and those breezes are set to continue today and tomorrow. But the regatta deadlock might be broken if a low-pressure system moves in this week.
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/the-sunday-session/audio/chris-steele-what-to-expect-from-fourth-day-of-americas-cup-racing/

Good point, both teams have lead by 1 race, but at the end of each day it's still even. That's never happened before in the AC. Gonna need some kip soon. Race in 5 1/2 hours.

 

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1 minute ago, Jean-Baptiste said:

I questioned my wife once about the cost of a rug, her response:

There is no luggage rack on a hearse

When I'm in Naples,  being from Milan, I'm not even permitted to make coffee because they say that mine is like water... way too light and the taste sucks. They are mad for coffee there! :D :D

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10 minutes ago, laser 173312 said:

Have to say, you don't seem that supportive of TNZ.  Less than I am in fact, and I'm the other side of the world. If it was RNZYS v RYS my loyalties would be split. But FFS come on your a Kiwi.

 

I think Jays has been pretty clear on his support to be fair. Thankfully he’s like most of us and, whilst wanting his team to win, is also appreciative of the opposition. Unlike some others here...

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17 minutes ago, strider470 said:

Probably a defense?

Nope,

The Netherlands were never defender, neither were the Italians.
Will the fairness of the game improve when the Italians are in charge?
Politcally it has been the country where government rules for the shortest time.
But I like Italilian design. Make it fair so  nobody wants to start a civil war like the mafia..

It's all so simple.

I owned and adored this car by Pininfarina.

 

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1 minute ago, The Main Man said:

I think Jays has been pretty clear on his support to be fair. Thankfully he’s like most of us and, whilst wanting his team to win, is also appreciative of the opposition. Unlike some others here...

Wasn't aware I'd bad mouthed Prada. Other than commenting on their rumoured liking of Bertarelli as the next challenger.

 

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11 minutes ago, Crux said:

I can see all the courses from where I am and there is very little wind in the harbour. 3kn max.  Much less than yesterday.  The only hope is for the seabreeze to come in the afternoon but even Predictwind is not promising much I'm afraid.

Try this website http://www.windsurf.co.nz/  a Photo of current conditions every 10mins and bottom left is current wind. Takapuna Cam is A Course.

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2 minutes ago, Schakel said:

Nope,

The Netherlands were never defender, neither were the Italians.
Will the fairness of the game improve when the Italians are in charge?
Politcally it has been the country where government rules for the shortest time.
But I like Italilian design. Make it fair so  nobody wants to start a civil war like the mafia..

It's all so simple.

I owned and adored this car by Pinninfarina.

 

Peugeot405.jpg

Sorry, my answer was about what we would do in case of victory of the cup.

Defense it is.

:)

 

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4 minutes ago, laser 173312 said:

Wasn't aware I'd bad mouthed Prada. Other than commenting on their rumoured liking of Bertarelli as the next challenger.

 

 bertarelli was the choice left on the table, since uk and nz apparently have a pre agreement. I don't like him very much though.

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9 minutes ago, Schakel said:

Will the fairness of the game improve when the Italians are in charge?
Politcally it has been the country where government rules for the shortest time.
 

 

And by the way. What on earth has to do the length of time of an italian government with the America's Cup?

Prada has always been on the right side of following the rules and sportmanship, take time to check the records of their 20+ years of involvement in the AC.

Do you think Mr Bertelli and his company lacks the means, fantasy, style, moral qualities and locations to put on a memorable edition of the America's Cup?

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3 hours ago, Paddywackery said:

I'm getting used to it now....sounds like the boat has a soul :lol:

 hmm... if so, a tortewered sole ....

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22 minutes ago, strider470 said:

When I'm in Naples,  being from Milan, I'm not even permitted to make coffee because they say that mine is like water... way too light and the taste sucks. They are mad for coffee there! :D :D

same in NZ and the italians maka-da-besta-cafe-machina (also the best motorcycles and cars) I have an ancient La Cimbali and it cranks out 4-6 cups a day just for me. You can stand a spoon up in that delicious black liquor

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2 minutes ago, strider470 said:

And by the way. What on earth has to do the length of time of an Italian government with the America's Cup?

 

And with "fairness" specifically? Mah...
Men, sometimes I struggle to keep up with the scattering brain cells around this forum.
And I'm nothing like an Einstein myself...

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2 minutes ago, Thewas said:

And with "fairness" specifically? Mah...
Men, sometimes I struggle to keep up with the scattering brain cells around this forum.
And I'm nothing like an Einstein myself...

You're right, Albert.

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1 minute ago, An Interested Non-Sailor said:

English wasn't my best subject & apart from knowing a few Italian words [Prego, Alora] I'm no good with that language either though I have enjoyed touring your country when younger

I was joking on "course A" :D

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6 minutes ago, toad said:

same in NZ and the italians maka-da-besta-cafe-machina (also the best motorcycles and cars) I have an ancient La Cimbali and it cranks out 4-6 cups a day just for me. You can stand a spoon up in that delicious black liquor

And don't forget the Lamborghini tractor, an absolute beast but you need a spanner because it can get cranky.

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NZ is called Aotearoa  By the indigenous people of New Zealand. It translates to land of the long white cloud. I hope some clouds turn up soon and bring some freakin wind with them.

 

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4 minutes ago, Paddywackery said:

A good yoke, the Peugeot 405, to pull a trailer.

I though Peugot were going to start making all their cars with dual exhaust so that they can be more effectively used as wheelbarrows?

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42 minutes ago, strider470 said:

When I'm in Naples,  being from Milan, I'm not even permitted to make coffee because they say that mine is like water... way too light and the taste sucks. They are mad for coffee there! :D :D

Coffee here in the home of the Cup for now worst case scenario Monday nite or before Lord Dalton flogs it to the highest bidder to pay for his new communist catamaran built by Uighurs.

https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2021/03/the-disappeared-uyghur-new-zealanders-terrified-for-missing-loved-ones-in-xinjiang/IMG_0752.thumb.JPG.bcbfadc9a88b0f61baac88b05c07ae03.JPG

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1 minute ago, mako23 said:

NZ is called Aotearoa  By the indigenous people of New Zealand. It translates to land of the long white cloud. I hope some clouds turn up soon and bring some freakin wind with them.

 

Aotearoa is a such a beautiful name!

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3 minutes ago, Paddywackery said:

And don't forget the Lamborghini tractor, an absolute beast but you need a spanner because it can get cranky.

and Ducati................ making mechanics out of motorcyclists since 1947, or Alfa romeo........ turning motorists into mechanics and cunning linquists since forever

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Just now, jaysper said:

I though Peugot were going to start making all their cars with dual exhaust so that they can be more effectively used as wheelbarrows?

The 205 GTI was a work of art, the 504 a horse, and the 208 has promise.

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2 minutes ago, mako23 said:

NZ is called Aotearoa  By the indigenous people of New Zealand. It translates to land of the long white cloud. I hope some clouds turn up soon and bring some freakin wind with them.

 

Not exactly true. They didn't have a name for the whole country until the late nineteenth century. Aotearoa was one of their names for the North Island. The South Island was called Te Wai Pounamu.

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3 minutes ago, strider470 said:

Aotearoa is a such a beautiful name!

It an easy to say name, other place names haven’t been easy to pronounce. 

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5 minutes ago, Priscilla said:

Coffee here in the home of the Cup for now worst case scenario Monday nite or before Lord Dalton flogs it to the highest bidder to pay for his new communist catamaran built by Uighurs.

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I will have one please, very nice.

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14 minutes ago, Paddywackery said:

A good yoke, the Peugeot 405, to pull a trailer.

Once you've seen the lines you really fell in love with that car.
So with the kiwi boat.
It's more like bobsleighing nowdays I heard one dutchman say. Not sure I like it.b3fbbe08-66cd-5c92-b60a-b83a87f34679.jpg.fe784f28627debd2e09e1868a0f695ef.jpg
 

 

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8 minutes ago, mako23 said:

NZ is called Aotearoa  By the indigenous people of New Zealand. It translates to land of the long white cloud. I hope some clouds turn up soon and bring some freakin wind with them.

 

Mako, you were promising 10 - 15 knts three hours ago, what happened?

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1 minute ago, mako23 said:

It an easy to say name, other place names haven’t been easy to pronounce. 

I always struggle in writing it correctly though,  I have to admit.

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2 minutes ago, mako23 said:

It an easy to say name, other place names haven’t been easy to pronounce. 

Ken's best mate, Stephen, pronounces it very nicely when he does the opening to the coverage with the spectacular scenery.

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15 minutes ago, mako23 said:

NZ is called Aotearoa  By the indigenous people of New Zealand. It translates to land of the long white cloud. I hope some clouds turn up soon and bring some freakin wind with them.

 

In the early 1800's it was Eastern Australia lol

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18 minutes ago, Priscilla said:

Coffee here in the home of the Cup for now worst case scenario Monday nite or before Lord Dalton flogs it to the highest bidder to pay for his new communist catamaran built by Uighurs.

https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2021/03/the-disappeared-uyghur-new-zealanders-terrified-for-missing-loved-ones-in-xinjiang/IMG_0752.thumb.JPG.bcbfadc9a88b0f61baac88b05c07ae03.JPG

What's the seagull for? Measuring the grounds? Timing the brew?

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8 minutes ago, marlowe said:

Mako, you were promising 10 - 15 knts three hours ago, what happened?

I was robotically copying something out of the herald. I promised nothing dude.  If the wind kicks in it will be later on in the afternoon. Most of the weather forecast in this part of the world have the statistical validity of lotto. 

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I have Ozone coffee in the grinder atm, a Kiwi company (new plymouth I think) who also have a roastery in london ;) ready to go for the morning

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4 minutes ago, JonRowe said:

I have Ozone coffee in the grinder atm, a Kiwi company (new plymouth I think) who also have a roastery in london ;) ready to go for the morning

I'm feeling very marginalised now with me feckin French press. I'm definitely going to give myself the giddy up and have a look at one of those giaggios.

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Regarding LR Race 6 start: Its not wake that was the problem it was the extended nearly straight downwind 2-foiling dive

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They went into it at 31kt at the arrow but dropped to 20 by the time they came out onto starboard & then rounded straight up to committee (?) layline without any build.

During the dive Jimmy twice calls 'milking' ie he is in control & intentionally taking them lower.

Onboard mic Jimmy calls wake well after the round-up.

Bruni & the other guy (I forget name) are calling for power & speed repeatedly -> that was a Jimmy fuckup.

 

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11 minutes ago, Stingray~ said:

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"It's never like this here" is ringing in my ears, a phrase I have used like probably everyone 

 

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4 minutes ago, hoom said:

Regarding LR Race 6 start: Its not wake that was the problem it was the extended nearly straight downwind 2-foiling dive

jE3erzd.png

They went into it at 31kt at the arrow but dropped to 20 by the time they came out onto starboard & then rounded straight up to committee (?) layline without any build.

During the dive Jimmy twice calls 'milking' ie he is in control & intentionally taking them lower.

Onboard mic Jimmy calls wake well after the round-up.

Bruni & the other guy (I forget name) are calling for power & speed repeatedly -> that was a Jimmy fuckup.

 

Good one. (and, Sibello) 

The wind dropped, they fell off the foils, and at the angle they had up to the gate it was simply game over from there.

Hopefully both teams can stay up through both prestarts today.. 

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Auckland often delivers a nice afternoon sea breeze but there is a transition zone between North head and Takapuna where the prevailing SW fights with the SB, but since there is very little prevailing the SB will be the winner. In other news its going to be low tide for a while prior too and during the match thus exposing vast swathes of drying mud on the Manukau which sucks the breeze in. Usually it makes whatever is blowing a bit stronger. Add in the fact that Rangi two toes is essentially a lava rock that stores vast amounts of heat, you have a meteorologists conference on the go at all times :)  

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9 minutes ago, Stingray~ said:

She says the incoming tide will be on the shipping channel side, is that the right side of Course Alpha? 

Lots of tide there, no escaping anywhere. The shipping channel it to the left going out of town. 

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15 minutes ago, Stingray~ said:

She says the incoming tide will be on the shipping channel side, is that the right side of Course Alpha? 

Hello Stingray,

Much trolling battles, but I don't mind.
How are you today?

I am not looking forward the cup ends in Italian hands.
An old civil war between rich and poor is what I was told the mafia is.

And to settle it, make a rightfull government..

Possible, not even hard, but feasible.

I am pretty convinced the cup is a pre set game.
To give the cup to the Italians is a dangerous move.
With much more foul play ahead.

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1 hour ago, laser 173312 said:

Have to say, you don't seem that supportive of TNZ.  Less than I am in fact, and I'm the other side of the world. If it was RNZYS v RYS my loyalties would be split. But FFS come on your a Kiwi.

 

Nothing I wrote indicated lack of support for ETNZ.

I am simply being realistic about their chances and the true benefits of hosting the cup.

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8 minutes ago, dg_sailingfan said:

I think TODAY might be a wash. They are hoping for an ENE seabreeze of 7 - 11 Knots

Not gonna happen. Too light!

Whomper! Whomper! LOL!

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33 minutes ago, Paddywackery said:

I'm feeling very marginalised now with me feckin French press. I'm definitely going to give myself the giddy up and have a look at one of those giaggios.

Don't feel bad.  A plunger gives us plebs a bucket of strong black while the aficionados have to settle for their demi-tasse.

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2 minutes ago, jaysper said:

Nothing I wrote indicated lack of support for ETNZ.

I am simply being realistic about their chances and the true benefits of hosting the cup.

Untill proven otherwise by our Italian friends.
You can'be serious about this.
Next day a 2 -0 victory for ETNZ please.

By the way, did you kiwis noitice we the europeans, have to wait to 4 o clock PM to watch the show live?
That is in the middle of the night not to see the cup get lost to the Italians

Well good luck. It was best of 7 wasn't it?
Score 3-3.

Fingers crossed.

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What we haven't seen in many races is if both boats get off the line at the same time and at full speed which one will get the jump? Will it be Luna Rossa with their high mode or NZ with their sheer speed? I think we may just see that happen today? And then we may know about who is going to break the deadlock we have ATM.

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6 minutes ago, terrafirma said:

What we haven't seen in many races is if both boats get off the line at the same time and at full speed which one will get the jump? Will it be Luna Rossa with their high mode or NZ with their sheer speed? I think we may just see that happen today? And then we may know about who is going to break the deadlock we have ATM.

Yesterday we saw ETNZ in race 6 faster and less distance so I'm not sure about that high mode.

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27 minutes ago, jaysper said:
30 minutes ago, terrafirma said:

What we haven't seen in many races is if both boats get off the line at the same time and at full speed which one will get the jump? Will it be Luna Rossa with their high mode or NZ with their sheer speed? I think we may just see that happen today? And then we may know about who is going to break the deadlock we have ATM.

Yesterday we saw ETNZ in race 6 faster and less distance so I'm not sure about that high mode.

Yeah but I'm talking more about winning the start because that's what is deciding the race today. I'd like to see both boats hit the line at full speed at the same time and see who wins out from there?

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1 hour ago, hoom said:

Regarding LR Race 6 start: Its not wake that was the problem it was the extended nearly straight downwind 2-foiling dive

jE3erzd.png

They went into it at 31kt at the arrow but dropped to 20 by the time they came out onto starboard & then rounded straight up to committee (?) layline without any build.

During the dive Jimmy twice calls 'milking' ie he is in control & intentionally taking them lower.

Onboard mic Jimmy calls wake well after the round-up.

Bruni & the other guy (I forget name) are calling for power & speed repeatedly -> that was a Jimmy fuckup.

 

on video you can _clearly_ see that they sail into a hole, with several kts less wind than ETNZ.

the "fuck up" was not seeing the hole - which I think would have been tough to do given all that's going on.

In the end, i think it's mostly bad luck

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2 hours ago, Rhumline said:

Nothing over 6kts forecast between 1600 and 1800 according to the free weather sites.  In fact 2-4 kts seems the consensus except for Bucklands Beach.

Local knowledge anyone?

There is not a fucking breath of wind at my place. Bad day to be doing a building project.  

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Predictwind observations say 1.8 Knots top right of the course and 4 knots at Rangit Island

Forecasts say not enough wind to race today but PW has said that nearly everyday and we've had racing. So we'll have to wait to see what ends up on the course?

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A bit off topic here and thread drift but I thought while we are waiting for the wind this is a sign of the world we live in today. And also how do all these face masks end up in the Ocean. Lord Howe Island having a massive cleanup.

https://www.theage.com.au/environment/conservation/more-than-a-thousand-disposable-face-masks-wash-up-on-lord-howe-island-20210305-p57849.html

 

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5 minutes ago, kenergy said:

There is not a fucking breath of wind at my place. Bad day to be doing a building project.  

Hot land = sea breeze.

Looking better, three hours to go

 

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3 minutes ago, terrafirma said:

A bit off topic here and thread drift but I thought while we are waiting for the wind this is a sign of the world we live in today. And also how do all these face masks end up in the Ocean. Lord Howe Island having a massive cleanup.

https://www.theage.com.au/environment/conservation/more-than-a-thousand-disposable-face-masks-wash-up-on-lord-howe-island-20210305-p57849.html

 

Car parks were full of them here in Perth. People are crap.

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3 hours ago, jaysper said:

Truth is that most people can't afford a boat and then not everyone who can actually wants one

The spectator fleet was impressive though. Mainly stink boats, but plenty of big, flash, gin palaces. With the high price of fuel, I wonder how many are mariner posers, and how many actually put decent miles on their boats?

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On 3/12/2021 at 3:25 AM, **ONTOIT** said:

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Whoops....wrong course selection!!

Hey mate! Where did you get this Map from Friday? Could you provide us any update for today?

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24 minutes ago, kenergy said:

There is not a fucking breath of wind at my place. Bad day to be doing a building project.  

I’m getting about 3 to 5 knots at my place and I’m south west from the course.

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3 hours ago, Stingray~ said:

America's Cup: 'The mother of all fights' now mental game as Team NZ and Luna Rossa square up for rounds seven and eight
https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/124533117/americas-cup-the-mother-of-all-fights-now-mental-game-as-team-nz-and-luna-rossa-square-up-for-rounds-seven-and-eight

"Any day you can go out and have a shot at winning an America's Cup race, that's not that bad a day!"

That's a great quote from Jimmy!

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