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1 hour ago, RobG said:

"Is it say 50m from the max lead while out of bounds" doesn't assert that you can.

LR first copped a penalty on the left side of the course. It was then given a double penalty while outside the right side of the course. It gybed back onto the course, then soon after was given a 3rd penalty after being told to drop back further.

I'm just looking for the rationale for the point that the drop back distance is taken from and how long they have to do the penalty. Sometimes the umpires says "you have another 30m to go", but by the time it's cleared the boat has lost 50m with momentum so ends up losing 100m or more.

not sure but i think it was because they broke a rule by deliberately going out of bounds then gained further advantage by getting onto their foils while out of bounds. A bit like a red flag penalty where if a boat gains advantage while breaking a rule they will keep getting penalties until that advantage is negated. If you notice they sailed towards the bottom mark on their foils while out of bounds

Could be wrong - only Richard Slater could clear that one up I guess

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1 hour ago, Kate short for Bob said:

There's a video around that explains it.  I'm sure with your impeccable skills you will locate it.

If you mean this, Ken Read just says "for boundary penalties you must drop back 50 metres regardless of the position of the other yacht". The question that hasn't been answered is "50 m from what"?

There is this from the last cup which says "The penalty for going out of bounds is to get back in bounds, and then slow down and lose two lengths relative to the other boat", which clearly doesn't apply in this cup.

If they want to get tough on going out of bounds, put another boundary say 2 boat lengths beyond the actual boundary that, if crossed, is a DSQ. So you have warning at 4, penalty at 0 and DSQ at -2. At the moment the size of the penalty seems to be at the umpire's discretion.

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2 minutes ago, Priscilla said:

10 Knots at Bean Rock with 15 knots peak.

12 Knots with 18 knots peak at Manukau heads.

Nice breeze here in Poncenby.

12 knots with 18 peak at Bean rock now

Filling in

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7 minutes ago, Piet56 said:

if it heads the way it's looking like it will be escorted off site today...... not pleasant - neither is cleaning up the mess this muppet has / will leave behind.....

sounds like you should definitely have a whiskey then!

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1 hour ago, Amati said:

NOOOOOOOO!  Watching the bows sinking slooowly into the water, up a little,  down a little,  was exquisite torture.  My wife (!) and I were yelling at the screen.  Watching the teams trying to get up on foils was just as involving!  Screaming GO! GO! INSANE Laughing!  Yelling ‘’BRING THE WHOPPER!”

Mrs Amati might have been screaming for a different WHOPPER!!:D

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Huge spectator fleet out there already - the fleet markers seem to be set further into the harbour than previously?

Maybe giving IM more room to rotate the course if necessary?

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23 minutes ago, Sailbydate said:

Well, you can't really beat up on the guy this time around. He's very nearly been likeable, no? 

I've warmed to Jimmy this time around. He's got a lot of experience, and has matured. He's not the skipper this time around, so he can't really just go mouthing off like he used to.

A couple of cracks appeared in the 2 helm setup yesterday - they didn't anticipate that pass until way too late. 

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9 minutes ago, Piet56 said:

if it heads the way it's looking like it will be escorted off site today...... not pleasant - neither is cleaning up the mess this muppet has / will leave behind.....

In my IT career this has happened to me. It wasn’t personal and they sure gave me a big nice cheque as I walked out the door. 

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1 minute ago, **ONTOIT** said:

sounds like you should definitely have a whiskey then!

When you have the urge to go absolutely medieval on this persons face, Physically alter the geographical planes , purely because they have a kind face.... Kind of face you would never ever get tired of punching..... This person is an Oxygen thief, with ZERO redeeming features or competencies, less than economical with the truth who could not find the word accountability with a road map, a GPS, Both hands and a flashlight in the OXford Dictionary..... don't get me started..... I have to play nice.....

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1 minute ago, **ONTOIT** said:

Here's a comparison of how the wind is filling in from the west:

10:38am

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2:46pm

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According to the last picture I should be noticing an increase of wind. Sadly not :wacko:

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1 minute ago, Horn Rock said:

I've warmed to Jimmy this time around. He's got a lot of experience, and has matured. He's not the skipper this time around, so he can't really just go mouthing off like he used to.

I agree, the "pitbull" persona was sort of pushed on him by the media and he ran with it. He has certainly reinvented himself this time and seems a much nicer character.

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15 minutes ago, Piet56 said:

if it heads the way it's looking like it will be escorted off site today...... not pleasant - neither is cleaning up the mess this muppet has / will leave behind.....

Oh god I had to dismiss a total muppet last year.

He had been with the company 3 years by the time I took over the team. Had an HR file 3 inches thick and still drawing a salary.

Worst worker (if you can call him that) I ever met. Luckily he did so little that there wasn't that much mess to clean up.

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3 minutes ago, aucklander said:

It's starting to rain heavily 2 km from the course - but the wind really has filled in.  It looks as thought it may hold too.  

Does a twin skin mainsail hung from a lamp post qualify as a topsail.

“Wind before rain, let your topsail fill again. Rain before wind, sheets and topsails mind,”

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2 minutes ago, Sea Breeze 74 said:

I agree, the "pitbull" persona was sort of pushed on him by the media and he ran with it. He has certainly reinvented himself this time and seems a much nicer character.

He wasn't in NZ last time either

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4 minutes ago, Piet56 said:

When you have the urge to go absolutely medieval on this persons face, Physically alter the geographical planes , purely because they have a kind face.... Kind of face you would never ever get tired of punching..... This person is an Oxygen thief, with ZERO redeeming features or competencies, less than economical with the truth who could not find the word accountability with a road map, a GPS, Both hands and a flashlight in the OXford Dictionary..... don't get me started..... I have to play nice.....

Maybe two then!

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4 minutes ago, Sea Breeze 74 said:

I agree, the "pitbull" persona was sort of pushed on him by the media and he ran with it. He has certainly reinvented himself this time and seems a much nicer character.

Mostly due to the Italians telling him not to be a cockhead and the team is bigger than one person!

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4 minutes ago, PhilipNZ said:

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This is gunna be gud.  Am excite.  Smaller wetted area for the win.

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1 hour ago, Stingray~ said:

Too late to change the rules, obviously. But unless the Class Rule changes for next time, then it is blatantly obvious the min is set too low, since foiling boats falling off foils has led to disastrously macabre scenes. 

If the wind limit is changed the foil and sails will change to take advantage and the boats will still be marginal at the limits. You're dreaming.

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11 minutes ago, Piet56 said:

I couldn't possibly comment Minister.....

I was a huge "Yes Minister" fan too. Used to wonder how close to reality it was.

 

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2 minutes ago, 36thLatitude said:

He wasn't in NZ last time either

Doesn’t he have a house in NZ, maybe he’s keeping his gob shut for that reason 

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7 minutes ago, Enzedel92 said:

Plot twist.  LR faster than TR in breeze above 15 knots!

Bollocks.

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6 minutes ago, shanghaisailor said:

I was a huge "Yes Minister" fan too. Used to wonder how close to reality it was.

 

Well they predicted brexit. LOL!

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3 minutes ago, Sailbydate said:
10 minutes ago, Enzedel92 said:

Plot twist.  LR faster than TR in breeze above 15 knots!

Bollocks.

And then some...! Forget Bollocks, it's Bullshit too........! :D

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I've got a feeling we won't be putting the Italians away today. One a piece again I reckon - but we'll be moving to Match Point, so all's well (hopefully). Go ETNZ.

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11 minutes ago, Sea Breeze 74 said:

Just saying, where is the commodore of the RNZYS right now? Holed up on Mateo's yacht with another mystery guest?

For the first read I thought you were saying he was a hostage on Matteos yacht.

Imagine.

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1 minute ago, Sailbydate said:

I've got a feeling we won't be putting the Italians away today. One a piece again I reckon - but we'll be moving to Match Point, so all's well (hopefully). Go ETNZ.

Be more appropriate to win on St Patricks day... 

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3 minutes ago, mako23 said:

Will the batwing come out

They were never going to use that.....It was made with old sails....probably just to mess with the Italians......

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If we do this, I will be heading straight to the viaduct to smash a bottle of champagne. The band last night on the stage had a huge crowd going....This will be a moment to experience 

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5 minutes ago, Sailbydate said:

I've got a feeling we won't be putting the Italians away today. One a piece again I reckon - but we'll be moving to Match Point, so all's well (hopefully). Go ETNZ.

I hope youre right, but in breeze ET has the legs

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13 minutes ago, **ONTOIT** said:

They are waaaay late. I heard this Rumor that Royal Yacht Squadron Commodore James Sheldon was in Town this Morning!

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3 minutes ago, Caecilian said:

subtract about 6kts from Bean, it always reads high

Oh okay....still, sounds like it's getting fresher than Jasper at a teen party......

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Just now, WakaNZ said:

If we do this, I will be heading straight to the viaduct to smash a bottle of champagne. The band last night on the stage had a huge crowd going....This will be a moment to experience 

Lucky Bastard - TY by the way for letting us mortals live vicariously due to your efforts . appreciate it Waka

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1 minute ago, jaysper said:

I doubt that long.

Dalton seems a difficult bastard to deal with.

If you could clone GD with a replicator and put him in a locked room with GD, I wonder how long peace will last

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5 minutes ago, Horn Rock said:

Oh okay....still, sounds like it's getting fresher than Jasper at a teen party......

I'm not prejudice. I like lots of pussy.

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2 minutes ago, Piet56 said:

Lucky Bastard - TY by the way for letting us mortals live vicariously due to your efforts . appreciate it Waka

Happy to share an Uber from the shore if anyone wants to join!

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5 minutes ago, **ONTOIT** said:

TVNZ team stating currently 13 knts

I commend you for putting up with that dribble. I turn on mute and listen to PJM. 

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Just now, WakaNZ said:

Happy to share an Uber from the shore if anyone wants to join!

I might pop over to North Head on the bike, or should I pop out on the yott- nah just going to kick back on the couch

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2 minutes ago, jaysper said:

I doubt that long.

Dalton seems a difficult bastard to deal with.

Dalt's is Binary...  Know's what he wants..... Have to admire the man having put up with all the "tall poppy shite" that he's had to deal with.... true he doesn't help himself, as has been said before he is "Old School" - works for me

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4 minutes ago, mako23 said:

Will PB manage to win a start today ?

Does it matter when your nearly 4 knots faster? They changed their main clew before yesterday and Nathan said the camber on their main was incredible. also they are tacking so fast now I don't think it matters if PB loses the start? Luna Rossa won both starts yesterday

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2 minutes ago, Caecilian said:

I think Dalton has been exemplary as a CEO over the course of this defence

yep the vibe I'm getting is the Italians threatened to pick up their handbags and go play somewhere else exactly one time too many and Dalts came up with plan B, wonder if LV is waiting in the wings too?

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Just now, Piet56 said:

Dalt's is Binary...  Know's what he wants..... Have to admire the man having put up with all the "tall poppy shite" that he's had to deal with.... true he doesn't help himself, as has been said before he is "Old School" - works for me

Won that cup, now looking to defend it successfully, hell of a sporting CV

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5 minutes ago, Piet56 said:

Dalt's is Binary...  Know's what he wants..... Have to admire the man having put up with all the "tall poppy shite" that he's had to deal with.... true he doesn't help himself, as has been said before he is "Old School" - works for me

Might be great for running the team but the relationship with LR seems to be destroyed and they provided a huge amount of support over the years.

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3 minutes ago, Caecilian said:

PJM? fuck that old bastard will be 3 sheets to the wind by now

Turning into the Murray Walker of sailing these days. His pearler from yesterday after the first race "finally the deadlock is broken" In other words like every other day before

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Just now, jaysper said:

the relationship with LR seems to be destroyed and they provided a huge amount of support over the years.

There is more behind that than has reached the public eye.... like many other things in life..... "Divorce or separation" happens within relationships,.

As in the life of Brian... "Yet ye amongst without Sin casteth the 1st stone.... Mother!"