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5 hours ago, accnick said:

What are the options?

A Dyer Dhow 9ft hard dinghy that rows like a dream and a rigid transom inflatable that stows much more easily but rows like crap. 

 

I will not take a petrol outboard but I will take a 35lb thrust trolling motor with a lithium battery. 

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6 hours ago, Ajax said:

All of my cruising guides are loaded onto the boat. I have installed the Mastervolt charger for the AGM batteries. I have shuffled all of my infrequently used spares and extra safety equipment into the aft most locker in the quarter berth.

This has freed up a large locker on the port side for canned and dry goods storage. As a paranoid submariner, I just couldn't bring myself to bury my tools in that aft locker. I want immediate access to the tools so they still live in the smaller locker above the new canned goods locker.

I have new jacklines and I have an excellent jackline layout that I tested last year. What I don't have, are D-rings in the cockpit sole to clip onto. I think I need to buy two Wichard D-rings; one up near the companionway and one at the helm.  I loathe drilling holes in the boat but I'll do it right. I'll overdrill, fill with epoxy, re-drill and bed with butyl.

Lastly, I finally received a call from The Anchorage. My Dyer dingy wood rail kit will ship in a week or two. Hopefully I can overhaul the Dyer in time for the trip. I'm still vacillating on which dinghy I want to bring.

Dyer fits under the boom? Foredeck? 

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43 minutes ago, Ajax said:

A Dyer Dhow 9ft hard dinghy that rows like a dream and a rigid transom inflatable that stows much more easily but rows like crap. 

 

I will not take a petrol outboard but I will take a 35lb thrust trolling motor with a lithium battery. 

The 9' Dyer is a decent all-around dinghy for Maine. You can also tow it anywhere you want once you get there. Its biggest weakness is a lack of initial stability when you step down into it, but the 9' is infinitely  better than the smaller one in that regard.

A roll-up with the small motor is reasonably flexible, but you  don't want to beach it on Maine's typical rocky beaches very much. You also can't tow it very well, as it lacks directional stability. And, as you say, they row like crap if you have to row them. It is not something you would do as a matter of course.

I have a small (9') aluminum-bottom RIB with a good outboard, capable of planing pretty easily with two people. It stows in davits over the transom. But that is on a powerboat.

You will see all kinds of dinghies in Maine. With your choices, I might go for the Dyer, unless your roll-up is really good and stows easily.

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17 minutes ago, Ajax said:

@accnick my boat is just shy of 34' so a RIB is just too big,  even with davits. 

I love the Dyer as my Chesapeake dinghy,  no problems with stability. 

Well, Maine does seem like the forgotten land of hard dinghies. You'll see a parade most days even though RIBS are still probably the majority.   More often than you'd might think, you see someone towing something big like a peapod, dory or whitehall that's half the length of the towing boat.

If you can get it up there on your foredeck comfortably, why not? 

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12 hours ago, Elegua said:

If you can get it up there on your foredeck comfortably, why not? 

I think the Dyer will enhance your Maine cruising. Exploring under oar maybe some of your memorable hours. Plus you want to land on islands without concern. If you let your dinghy determine where you can go, you'll miss alot.

 

For the few hours it will go on the foredeck, I'd do it. I bet you'll find you won't need to haul it on deck many times. In the end, I bet it will be less hassle all around. 

This boat would get 3 more knots towing your Dyer. 

 

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39 minutes ago, Kris Cringle said:

On Covid: 74% of 65+ are fully vaccinated in my county (and along the Me. coast) and we're at 30% fully vaccinated and increasing rapidly. 

July 4th, 2019. We're planning a return of our local Harborque in 2021, on the 4th. 

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Yeah, I'm looking forward to a bit of that this summer. Last summer was a strange time, even in Maine.

It feels good to be vaccinated, even though we know it isn't a free pass to irresponsible behavior.

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I'm glad to add back a bit of the social aspect, but in terms of cruising, last year was very unique. Many of the most special locations were empty. 

I wonder if this year will be a zoo? Every time I talk to the yard they are going crazy. Everyone and their brother are splashing. 

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9 minutes ago, Elegua said:

I'm glad to add back a bit of the social aspect, but in terms of cruising, last year was very unique. Many of the most special locations were empty. 

I wonder if this year will be a zoo? Every time I talk to the yard they are going crazy. Everyone and their brother are splashing. 

"Zoo" is probably a relative term for Maine. Our yard in Brooklin had maybe 10% of the boats not launching last year.

I expect things to be more crowded than last year, but they never seem to be crowded compared to southern New England. That's one reason we go there.

All of my hard-core friends were in the water last year, although some launched later than normal. The 14-day quarantine on arrival in Maine from out of state put a damper on things for a lot of people, but we just self-isolated in the boatyard, completing our quarantine about the time we launched.

A nephew of mine has rented a house on the water in downeast Maine for August, and he locked that in some months ago  because demand was ramping up. I expect Acadia National Park to be packed this summer, so we may have to limit our hiking a bit to avoid crowds, even though we are vaccinated.

One question is whether the US/Canada border will be open to cruising boats this summer. The closure last year put a bit of a damper on the desire the go east of Schoodic, although one friend of mine went to Eastport. Needless to say, there weren't many cruisers that far east last year.

We'll see.

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1 hour ago, accnick said:

The 14-day quarantine on arrival in Maine from out of state put a damper on things for a lot of people,

That doesn't apply to you if you are fully vaccinated. I am actually arriving on my first "legal" day to be in Maine.

Re Eastport - They have a big floating dock marina, but outside of that we saw few recreational boats around that area. It really is way the heck Down East!

If Campobello Islanders weren't allowed in and out of Maine that had to REALLY piss them off! The other way off the island was a ferry that wasn't running.

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1 hour ago, accnick said:

"Zoo" is probably a relative term for Maine. Our yard in Brooklin had maybe 10% of the boats not launching last year.

I expect things to be more crowded than last year, but they never seem to be crowded compared to southern New England. That's one reason we go there.

All of my hard-core friends were in the water last year, although some launched later than normal. The 14-day quarantine on arrival in Maine from out of state put a damper on things for a lot of people, but we just self-isolated in the boatyard, completing our quarantine about the time we launched.

A nephew of mine has rented a house on the water in downeast Maine for August, and he locked that in some months ago  because demand was ramping up. I expect Acadia National Park to be packed this summer, so we may have to limit our hiking a bit to avoid crowds, even though we are vaccinated.

One question is whether the US/Canada border will be open to cruising boats this summer. The closure last year put a bit of a damper on the desire the go east of Schoodic, although one friend of mine went to Eastport. Needless to say, there weren't many cruisers that far east last year.

We'll see.

Last year a lot of people at our yard vacillated between launching and not, so it gave the yard conniptions. Same with the moorings at the yacht club where I squatted for a season, ( I lent my boat to my parents since they were between boats).  We self-isolated on the boat.  This year everyone will be vaccinated, so as long as a nasty variant doesn't show up, we should be OK. But as you say, not a license to go crazy. Maybe this is a year to go East. Last year we went West. We splash as usual in mid-May. 

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I think you'll see more activity in the harbors. I have good clients who just bought a house on the harbor with a dock. Now it's time to get their first boat, I'm looking for a mobo 20-26' or so. No specific type, we're open. Reliable, no junk. Price isn't an issue. I can't find one! A broker friend hasn't gotten back to me. 

 

On the shore, it is different. We're busier than I can remember right now. Houses selling quickly, some contracts right over smart phone. Signing up skilled labor is like winning the lottery, and I'm in the business. 

 

I met a young couple renting an AirBB across the street. They were asking if I knew of anything for sale. There's stuff but not too many simple houses under 500k in town. They're from Brooklyn, working remotely, happily living this life. They're living, working and looking here. 

 

My son just got his dream job with a firm out of Boston and globally. All his interviews (several) were via zoom; them from god only knows where, he from a small apartment in Camden.

 

The firm won't even discuss a return to the office before September, but it will be 'hybrid' (def; new normal to come that is unknown). His plan is to be the super valuable remote worker, a being that is evolving right before our eyes. 

 

He, my daughter his best friend Harry are getting NAMO, the $1 boat ready to launch.

 

Harry just landed a remote gig with a Boston based Solar firm. My daughter, working as a project manager right in town, is about to move into a new position. They have the new tools. 

 

My whole life living in rural New England, the age old mantra has always been, "How do we bring good jobs here?" 

Answer: We never could bring high paying jobs - not in any number - because,.... we ARE 'remote'. Kids largely move away. 

 

Our son, 29,  is back from Boston and living in Maine. He's making Boston $$ while enjoying Maines lower cost of living.

 

He ties flies, sails, canoes, bikes, snowboards and enjoys the quality of life Maine affords while making 'city' wages. 

 

First trout of 2021 caught on a fly he tied. Try doing that in the River Charles. The beauty was carefully released. 

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40 minutes ago, Kris Cringle said:

I think you'll see more activity in the harbors. I have good clients who just bought a house on the harbor with a dock. Now it's time to get their first boat, I'm looking for a mobo 20-26' or so. No specific type, we're open. Reliable, no junk. Price isn't an issue. I can't find one! A broker friend hasn't gotten back to me. 

 

On the shore, it is different. We're busier than I can remember right now. Houses selling quickly, some contracts right over smart phone. Signing up skilled labor is like winning the lottery, and I'm in the business. 

 

I met a young couple renting an AirBB across the street. They were asking if I knew of anything for sale. There's stuff but not too many simple houses under 500k in town. They're from Brooklyn, working remotely, happily living this life. They're living, working and looking here. 

 

My son just got his dream job with a firm out of Boston and globally. All his interviews (several) were via zoom; them from god only knows where, he from a small apartment in Camden.

 

The firm won't even discuss a return to the office before September, but it will be 'hybrid' (def; new normal to come that is unknown). His plan is to be the super valuable remote worker, a being that is evolving right before our eyes. 

 

He, my daughter his best friend Harry are getting NAMO, the $1 boat ready to launch.

 

Harry just landed a remote gig with a Boston based Solar firm. My daughter, working as a project manager right in town, is about to move into a new position. They have the new tools. 

 

My whole life living in rural New England, the age old mantra has always been, "How do we bring good jobs here?" 

Answer: We never could bring high paying jobs - not in any number - because,.... we ARE 'remote'. Kids largely move away. 

 

Our son, 29,  is back from Boston and living in Maine. He's making Boston $$ while enjoying Maines lower cost of living.

 

He ties flies, sails, canoes, bikes, snowboards and enjoys the quality of life Maine affords while making 'city' wages. 

 

First trout of 2021 caught on a fly he tied. Try doing that in the River Charles. The beauty was carefully released. 

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Maine is a terrible place to live. Don't even think of going there. (Leave it for the rest of us.)

Seriously, if we were younger, we'd probably move back there full-time, rather then just summers.

But after living in New England for 30+ years, we don't do winter anymore.

Nice Brookie. Are those flies his own patterns, or is using the classics?

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@Kris Cringle "Few hours?"  The dinghy will ride on the foredeck from Annapolis to the northern end of the CCC or possibly until Rockland, ME. Once I've arrived, of course it will be towed behind.

I will try to bring the Dyer but I think I will abstain from bringing the sailing rig for it. I'll have enough crap on board. I will bring the oars and the trolling motor.  The limiting factor for bringing the Dyer is whether or not the gunwale rail kit arrives in time and whether or not I am competent enough to install it before the trip.

I've been hoarding vacation like a mo-fo. I have over 2 months on the books so if I need to take a couple of days off to install the rail over a long weekend, I can do that without impacting my trip.

The Dyer 9' isn't exactly light but I will craft a hoisting bridle for it. I have a 2-speed winch on the mast but I can also run the tail of the spinnaker halyard to one of the 2-speed primaries. So far, I have only hoisted it by the bull nose on the bow. You can imagine what a shit-show this is.

If I'm forced to bring the inflatable, I will simply wear my tall boots and jump out before the bottom contacts the dinghy.

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16 hours ago, Elegua said:

I'm glad to add back a bit of the social aspect, but in terms of cruising, last year was very unique. Many of the most special locations were empty. 

I wonder if this year will be a zoo? Every time I talk to the yard they are going crazy. Everyone and their brother are splashing. 

First couple of deliveries/small cruises downeast last season were amazing.  On one trip we were the only boat out there...almost no lobster pots either.  Really incredible.  Of course things ramped up quite a bit as people got stir crazy, but having a place like Seal Bay all to yourself was really cool.  

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8 minutes ago, eliboat said:

First couple of deliveries/small cruises downeast last season were amazing.  On one trip we were the only boat out there...almost no lobster pots either.  Really incredible.  Of course things ramped up quite a bit as people got stir crazy, but having a place like Seal Bay all to yourself was really cool.  

Lobster season started a bit late last year, so a lot of traps weren't in where we are until mid/late July.

Which Seal Bay are you talking about? If it's Vinalhaven, we go in behind Hay Island. Good holding, good protection. Always seems to be plenty of room.

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It's not easy to change lifestyles. When I look at all these people moving to Maine or moving to Florida, I think give them a couple of Winters or give them a nice Hurricane evacuation and a hot Summer or two and then you are going to hear, "I miss going all the restaurants and the "culture".  Some will stay, but I think that the weaklings will be culled after a season or two.  

If you want to bring jobs to NE, sign up for the infrastructure bill - fast and reliable networks. 

20 minutes ago, eliboat said:

First couple of deliveries/small cruises downeast last season were amazing.  On one trip we were the only boat out there...almost no lobster pots either.  Really incredible.  Of course things ramped up quite a bit as people got stir crazy, but having a place like Seal Bay all to yourself was really cool.

Right - like when does that happen? I was by myself in the Basin. 

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23 minutes ago, Ajax said:

@Kris Cringle "Few hours?"  The dinghy will ride on the foredeck from Annapolis to the northern end of the CCC or possibly until Rockland, ME. Once I've arrived, of course it will be towed behind.

I will try to bring the Dyer but I think I will abstain from bringing the sailing rig for it. I'll have enough crap on board. I will bring the oars and the trolling motor.  The limiting factor for bringing the Dyer is whether or not the gunwale rail kit arrives in time and whether or not I am competent enough to install it before the trip.

I've been hoarding vacation like a mo-fo. I have over 2 months on the books so if I need to take a couple of days off to install the rail over a long weekend, I can do that without impacting my trip.

The Dyer 9' isn't exactly light but I will craft a hoisting bridle for it. I have a 2-speed winch on the mast but I can also run the tail of the spinnaker halyard to one of the 2-speed primaries. So far, I have only hoisted it by the bull nose on the bow. You can imagine what a shit-show this is.

If I'm forced to bring the inflatable, I will simply wear my tall boots and jump out before the bottom contacts the dinghy.

I wouldn't want to burden you with more crap, and you might only use it a couple times, but the sailing rig would be a great toy to have.  I don't have a trolling motor. If I need to go far, I sail and row. Sailing with two people, a load of clean laundry, groceries and water jugs into chop a long distance is a challenge, but doable. 

Farting around. 

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30 minutes ago, Elegua said:

It's not easy to change lifestyles. When I look at all these people moving to Maine or moving to Florida, I think give them a couple of Winters or give them a nice Hurricane evacuation and a hot Summer or two and then you are going to hear, "I miss going all the restaurants and the "culture".  Some will stay, but I think that the weaklings will be culled after a season or two.  

If you want to bring jobs to NE, sign up for the infrastructure bill - fast and reliable networks. 

Right - like when does that happen? I was by myself in the Basin. 

That's another thing going for this town, we installed our own fiber optics line several years ago. I have 1 gig speed at my house. But the rest of the state, dismal. 

 

We have a pretty large turn-around rate for incomers. But one of the biggest reasons was that many newbs couldn't get well enough employed. You used to have to bring your job with you. But weather always culls out a few. 

 

We could look back in a year and say nothing much changed. I can't see though. 

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26 minutes ago, Kris Cringle said:

That's another thing going for this town, we installed our own fiber optics line several years ago. I have 1 gig speed at my house. But the rest of the state, dismal. 

 

We have a pretty large turn-around rate for incomers. But one of the biggest reasons was that many newbs couldn't get well enough employed. You used to have to bring your job with you. But weather always culls out a few. 

 

We could look back in a year and say nothing much changed. I can't see though. 

Oh, I agree that COVID is one of those events where a decade of change happened in ten months. But I also believe that people's habits are hard to change.  COVID will have made it easier for people to stay, but not eliminated the fact that changes in lifestyle are not easy.  Perhaps my view is colored by the fact I've moved on average every 24 months for the past 20+ years, the longest stay being four years. If it's a Summer house for the wealthy, that's one thing.  Plenty of Maine license plates and Maine boats in Palm Beach right now. But for someone moving permanently from Brooklyn, the Maine lifestyle will be a big cultural adjustment, especially in Winter, and especially if they are not moving to a place like Portland. That said, if it is what you want, you'll do fine. 

Towns are funny. One of the best experiences for my daughter was attending the Edgecomb Eddy school. It was the only time my relative to stopped complaining about the property taxes for the school. 

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2 hours ago, accnick said:

Lobster season started a bit late last year, so a lot of traps weren't in where we are until mid/late July.

Which Seal Bay are you talking about? If it's Vinalhaven, we go in behind Hay Island. Good holding, good protection. Always seems to be plenty of room.

Yes Vinhaven.  Anchored plenty behind Hay island.  Sometimes I like to tuck in right at the entrance between Hen Island and Bluff head.  Good clamming in both spots

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This last summer, when everywhere was so very, very quiet, the night we tried to stay in Seal Bay it was absolutely packed with boats — a yacht club cruise. Nothing against them, been there, done that. We went back out, turned left and went into Winter Harbour. Anchored beneath the cliffs and spent two nights, with a side trip on our cruising partners’ Downeast powerboat to Duck Harbour on Isle au Haut for hiking. I think that yacht club cruise did us a favour.

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12 hours ago, Sweare Deep said:

This last summer, when everywhere was so very, very quiet, the night we tried to stay in Seal Bay it was absolutely packed with boats — a yacht club cruise. Nothing against them, been there, done that. We went back out, turned left and went into Winter Harbour. Anchored beneath the cliffs and spent two nights, with a side trip on our cruising partners’ Downeast powerboat to Duck Harbour on Isle au Haut for hiking. I think that yacht club cruise did us a favour.

That might have been a mob from my club. They had an informal rendezvous there in late July.

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