JL92S 426 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 This looks absolutely hilarious... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Schnappi 126 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 needs more sailmons. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGeff 285 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Like a stern steerer ice boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eliboat 590 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 1 hour ago, rantro said: Hobie has already been there. Exactly. Probably a lot sexier than the trifoiler, but no doubt shares the many drawbacks associated with this concept... crazy beam, onerous setup and overall high level of complexity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frozenhawaiian 146 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 1 hour ago, rantro said: Hobie has already been there. came to post this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nota 88 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 so in the top picture why are the foils PUT IN BACKWARDS corrected in the second picture 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad 3,970 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 How much?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Left Shift 3,627 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 I've been taught that vortexes (vortices?) are things you want to shed, not acquire. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Left Shift 3,627 Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, nota said: so in the top picture why are the foils PUT IN BACKWARDS corrected in the second picture It's all a matter of perspective... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EYESAILOR 1,653 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Taking the Paralympics to the next level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carcrash 506 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Foiling should result in boats that look more like airplanes. So this is on the right track. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3to1 733 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I love foiling Moths, but imo, this is borderline goofy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastern motors 162 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Perfect for old rich guys 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
huey 2 1,007 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
huey 2 1,007 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 http://www.foils.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Bradfield-article.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GBH 109 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 think this was supposed to come out April 1st. What a load of bollocks, has Evans finally lost the plot?! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryley 683 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 15 hours ago, mad said: How much?? about $43k with the electronics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
some dude 201 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 What's it rate? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unShirley 256 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 15 hours ago, eastern motors said: Perfect for old rich guys that sail on sheltered waters 3 hours ago, ryley said: about $43k with the electronics. If I had more disposable income and lived near sheltered water, i.e. Long Beach, I would sail that. But, I am a retired educator that sails in the open ocean so I will remain contented with my Weta and get my fix of big boat OPB sailing again once I am vaccinated. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryley 683 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 1 hour ago, unShirley said: that sail on sheltered waters If I had more disposable income and lived near sheltered water, i.e. Long Beach, I would sail that. But, I am a retired educator that sails in the open ocean so I will remain contented with my Weta and get my fix of big boat OPB sailing again once I am vaccinated. I wasn't suggesting. I'm always interested in what these folks think the market will bear for a one-off toy. In boston harbor, that thing would be a menace, which is the only reason I want one 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad 3,970 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 4 hours ago, ryley said: 20 hours ago, mad said: How much?? about $43k with the electronics. Doug Lord will be along shortly. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastern motors 162 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 hours ago, ryley said: I wasn't suggesting. I'm always interested in what these folks think the market will bear for a one-off toy. In boston harbor, that thing would be a menace, which is the only reason I want one Price seems pretty reasonable to me. I think it could do well with guys that used to race beach cats. The problem with most of the one-off toys is that they require a rare combination of athleticism and net worth. This appears to require less athleticism than a Weta or roto-molded, no-trap Hobie. Price isn't too much more than an A-Class or Moth. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DickDastardly 285 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I don't understand the point of this boat. There are plenty of foilers around these days you can acquire, sit on and go fast. What's the secret sauce with this thing? It's clearly not practical to sail around courses and would be a pain to transport, assemble and launch. So why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryley 683 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, DickDastardly said: I don't understand the point of this boat. There are plenty of foilers around these days you can acquire, sit on and go fast. What's the secret sauce with this thing? It's clearly not practical to sail around courses and would be a pain to transport, assemble and launch. So why? you left out 'get into and out of' unless you happen to live on a beach. I can't fathom getting this thing close enough to a dock to be able to disembark. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DickDastardly 285 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 15 hours ago, huey 2 said: Baby Hydroptere. Probably about the same time as the prototypes in that program were being flown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JL92S 426 Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 8 hours ago, DickDastardly said: I don't understand the point of this boat. There are plenty of foilers around these days you can acquire, sit on and go fast. What's the secret sauce with this thing? It's clearly not practical to sail around courses and would be a pain to transport, assemble and launch. So why? It looks like it could be sailed by a paraplegic or similar which if that’s the case I think it’s pretty cool. Currently the only other options are an Illusion, 2.4M or some sort of modified RS keelboat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DickDastardly 285 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 43 minutes ago, JL92S said: It looks like it could be sailed by a paraplegic or similar which if that’s the case I think it’s pretty cool. Currently the only other options are an Illusion, 2.4M or some sort of modified RS keelboat. Yeah good point but how safe is a foiler for a Disabled sailor? Big crash and a disabled sailor may find it hard to get out of the boat safely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maxstaylock 381 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Am too young for the 'bring anything shit to market, we'll say it can plane' goldrush. I remember the 'bring any old crap to market, we'll put racks and a sprit on it, and say its a skiff'. We have passed the 'bring any half developed shitter cat to market, we'll put on some crazy foils, and say its americas cup tech' So, now we're in the foiling monohull chapter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
10thTonner 476 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 11 hours ago, eastern motors said: The problem with most of the one-off toys is that they require a rare combination of athleticism and net worth. ^ this. And the fact that it’s usable wind range might be between 9.1 and 9.7 knots. In flat water. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fat Point Jack 291 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Grandchild of Taberly's Paul Ricard Série Tabarly : le visionnaire - YouTube Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unShirley 256 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 A lot of haters commenting. I think it looks like it would be a blast to buzz around on inside the Long Beach breakwater. But, at $43k you could buy 5 UFOs and have an OD racing fleet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billy backstay 1,700 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 On 3/9/2021 at 2:28 PM, JL92S said: This looks absolutely hilarious... Like someone else asked, why are the foils depicted wrong way round in one pic, and not the other? That's a metric shit ton of strings to pull!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snowden 504 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 15 hours ago, billy backstay said: Like someone else asked, why are the foils depicted wrong way round in one pic, and not the other? it's a trick of the eye I think, because they are anhedral Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JL92S 426 Posted March 13, 2021 Author Share Posted March 13, 2021 So as it turns out you steer with your legs and ‘fly’ the boat with the joystick like you would a plane. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unShirley 256 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 The SA FP now has a link to the home page for the Vortex Pod prominently displayed. So I went to the website to check it out. Specifically, I was interested in seeing some pics/videos of it in action. I also was hoping to see a video of how one embarked/disembarked. Nothing! Just vapor ware. I can't imagine people paying a $3500 deposit to eventually purchase a $40,000+ toy based solely on vapor ware. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
apophenia 263 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, unShirley said: The SA FP now has a link to the home page for the Vortex Pod prominently displayed. So I went to the website to check it out. Specifically, I was interested in seeing some pics/videos of it in action. I also was hoping to see a video of how one embarked/disembarked. Nothing! Just vapor ware. I can't imagine people paying a $3500 deposit to eventually purchase a $40,000+ toy based solely on vapor ware. Whatever you do, don't google "NFT" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Dark Knight 1,254 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 On 3/10/2021 at 5:45 PM, rantro said: Think jet ski. How long is it fun to blast around aimlessly? People with a low enough IQ seem to enjoy jet skis. Similar people will perhaps be interested in this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Left Shift 3,627 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Is there a special compartment to keep your coke dry? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JL92S 426 Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 10 hours ago, unShirley said: The SA FP now has a link to the home page for the Vortex Pod prominently displayed. So I went to the website to check it out. Specifically, I was interested in seeing some pics/videos of it in action. I also was hoping to see a video of how one embarked/disembarked. Nothing! Just vapor ware. I can't imagine people paying a $3500 deposit to eventually purchase a $40,000+ toy based solely on vapor ware. whilst it’s not sailing yet it’s a little more than vapourware Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryley 683 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 On 3/11/2021 at 6:20 PM, billy backstay said: That's a metric shit ton of strings to pull!!! especially with one hand needing to be on the stick to fly it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Left Shift 3,627 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 15 hours ago, JL92S said: whilst it’s not sailing yet it’s a little more than vapourware THAT'S a McConaghy work space? Looks my basement when it needs a cleaning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billy backstay 1,700 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 5 hours ago, ryley said: especially with one hand needing to be on the stick to fly it. Exactly! How does one person manage all those strings, while concentrating, on staying up on the foils?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billy backstay 1,700 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 40 minutes ago, Left Shift said: THAT'S a McConaghy work space? Looks my basement when it needs a cleaning. Point taken, but does your garage create and deliver such a craft?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,442 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 35 minutes ago, billy backstay said: 1 hour ago, Left Shift said: THAT'S a McConaghy work space? Looks my basement when it needs a cleaning. Point taken, but does your garage create and deliver such a craft?? Just because it's sitting on blocks there, doesn't mean it was created there Some call me a cynic but I am a realist FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russell Brown 1,241 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I don't believe in advertising shit before it works, but that boat could be the ultimate foiling ride. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amati 1,852 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I like the seat. looks like an expensive concept off roader. a supercar. trick recumbent, or better yet, a glider. But iceboats and land yachts abandoned the beam forward thing what, half a century ago? Massive style points in carbon. Superyacht toy extraordinaire. Race your friends! AC- togs/helmet/goggles/knife/signage to go along? I like it more and more. Cafe racer / Morgan 3 wheeler / pylon racer / open class land sailor vibe ...... if it gets more billionaires into sail racing, piloting their own craft? Maybe a new AC development class? One or two man? I can see the second crew person doing wing walking for leverage... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
βhyde 1,869 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 WTF! No cup holders? First thing I'm doing is cutting some holes where the instruments are for some 64oz Big Gulp size cup holders. The instruments are only going to tell you non-essential shit like speed and course anyway, not the important stuff like how monumentally ridiculous you look spending $50K on the lovechild of a Windrider that got double cornholed by a jetski and a wakeboat. Second thing I'm doing is changing the seat to something more appropriate. Without armrests, there is no way this boat makes sense. ...and Anyone figure out how to take a piss off the Vortex? Doesn't seem like that was a big design consideration. Like most people (I think), I normally stand up and piss off the back of the boat while carefully steering the boat away from anything that looks like a beam reach or downwind; Strictly adhering to the "One Hand for the Sailor, One Hand for The Boat" rule. How the hell am I suppose to relieve a traumatized beer swollen bladder or drop some kids in the pool when I have no way of steering the boat during the those few moments when everything seems right with the world? I guess at 30Kts you could just let everything fly and see where it lands. No sure. Shit, maybe there is enough aerodynamic pressure at those speeds to put most of last night's tequila and burrito behind you in a, well, vortex of relief. Don't know, but I'd like the designers/builders to at least address the issue. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bobsmo 1 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Upgrade our Windrider Rave. They need a tandem version https://youtu.be/S7L0RGxQNYQ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
he b gb 264 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Wow! That looks like it works ^^ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
he b gb 264 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Anymore info on it Bobsmo? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trifoilerer 0 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Looks to me like it might work well. The hobie trifoiler is extremely fast and stable at high speed and this boat has a similar basic design. With modern materials and tech perhaps they can overcome the trifoiler deficiencies and attain the performance. E.g. insufficient engineering, heavy, difficult to launch, etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KC375 1,814 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 5/20/2021 at 10:29 PM, bhyde said: WTF! No cup holders? First thing I'm doing is cutting some holes where the instruments are for some 64oz Big Gulp size cup holders. The instruments are only going to tell you non-essential shit like speed and course anyway, not the important stuff like how monumentally ridiculous you look spending $50K on the lovechild of a Windrider that got double cornholed by a jetski and a wakeboat. Second thing I'm doing is changing the seat to something more appropriate. Without armrests, there is no way this boat makes sense. ...and Anyone figure out how to take a piss off the Vortex? Doesn't seem like that was a big design consideration. Like most people (I think), I normally stand up and piss off the back of the boat while carefully steering the boat away from anything that looks like a beam reach or downwind; Strictly adhering to the "One Hand for the Sailor, One Hand for The Boat" rule. How the hell am I suppose to relieve a traumatized beer swollen bladder or drop some kids in the pool when I have no way of steering the boat during the those few moments when everything seems right with the world? I guess at 30Kts you could just let everything fly and see where it lands. No sure. Shit, maybe there is enough aerodynamic pressure at those speeds to put most of last night's tequila and burrito behind you in a, well, vortex of relief. Don't know, but I'd like the designers/builders to at least address the issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GH41 8 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 The "External Male Catheter" would need to be enlarged to work for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DRIFTW00D 140 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Setup guide. Using the auto pisser option. #1. Your outing starts by Strapping on the condom with tube attached before dressing for a sail*, just in case relief is needed while foiling. Like SR 71 Pilots did and space men do still before reaching your launch site mount the device before suiting up. #2 Next…. *Be Prepared for SO comments like, What’s that really for? Or, Does Foiling really get you off THAT MUCH! Etc…. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pertsa 270 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 5/21/2021 at 5:29 AM, bhyde said: WTF! No cup holders? First thing I'm doing is cutting some holes where the instruments are for some 64oz Big Gulp size cup holders. Oh, you dont have time to drink when you have 15 strings to pull, boat to steer and fly. Consider youself lucky if you have time to breath. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grizz 155 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 5/20/2021 at 10:29 PM, bhyde said: Anyone figure out how to take a piss off the Vortex? Doesn't seem like that was a big design consideration. Like most people (I think), I normally stand up and piss off the back of the boat while carefully steering the boat away from anything that looks like a beam reach or downwind; Strictly adhering to the "One Hand for the Sailor, One Hand for The Boat" rule. Foley catheter to a through-hull? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
βhyde 1,869 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Having spent many years flying sailplanes, I'm familiar with the catheter pee-pee system. At 25,000' the temperature is about 10 degrees below having a Johnson that looks like anything other than a scared turtle. Make mine an extra small. I'm not doing it on a boat. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Left Shift 3,627 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 On a J-24. the sure test for "It's time for the small jib" is peeing from the leeward stern quarter going up wind and having your pee blow forward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jethrow 411 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Not vapourware anymore! https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=461722861980733 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snowden 504 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Jethrow said: Not vapourware anymore! https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=461722861980733 I don't love the idea of trying to extricate myself from that cockpit if the thing flips over Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastern motors 162 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Snowden said: I don't love the idea of trying to extricate myself from that cockpit if the thing flips over The mast will be sealed like any small boat. It will take multiple minutes to "flip over" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobot 4,434 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Sox 1,132 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 7/18/2021 at 3:20 AM, GH41 said: The "External Male Catheter" would need to be enlarged to work for me. They come in 3 sizes; small, medium and liar. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unShirley 256 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 So, to me, the fact that the FB video shows nothing more than somebody boarding the boat indicates that there must have been a massive fail after that. If that is their idea of a tease, that in itself is a massive fail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
some dude 201 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 What's it rate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jethrow 411 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 17 hours ago, unShirley said: So, to me, the fact that the FB video shows nothing more than somebody boarding the boat indicates that there must have been a massive fail after that. If that is their idea of a tease, that in itself is a massive fail. I was kinda thinking the same thing, but then this just popped into my feed a few minutes ago. Hope the link works, the last one didn't seem to... https://www.facebook.com/101880121927804/videos/324647396181559 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jethrow 411 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Still a lot of shit going on it that cockpit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JL92S 426 Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 I quite like the concept. Probably will never own one and even if I had the cash I still wouldn’t buy one but I can’t help think it would make a good spectating sport. The fact that it looks hard as fuck sail appeals. I’m slightly bored of foiling boats sailing (seemingly) effortlessly round a course. This looks like a PITA for all the right reasons Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unShirley 256 Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/24/2021 at 1:53 AM, Jethrow said: I was kinda thinking the same thing, but then this just popped into my feed a few minutes ago. Hope the link works, the last one didn't seem to... https://www.facebook.com/101880121927804/videos/324647396181559 Yes, that popped into my feed as well and my reaction is, "now that is better." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ProaSailor 674 Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 Dated Dec 24, 2021: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boathavn 192 Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 Open the pod bay doors HAL... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lars Schrøder d 13 18 Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/24/2021 at 11:17 AM, JL92S said: I quite like the concept. Probably will never own one and even if I had the cash I still wouldn’t buy one but I can’t help think it would make a good spectating sport. The fact that it looks hard as fuck sail appeals. I’m slightly bored of foiling boats sailing (seemingly) effortlessly round a course. This looks like a PITA for all the right reasons Most proper foiling boats are rather tough to sail, you don't do +20 knots upwind without some work.. I do a-cats.. scary in more than 10 m/s 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amati 1,852 Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/22/2021 at 5:50 PM, hobot said: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 3/10/2021 at 8:34 AM, random. said: Hobie has already been there. Like Stormy Daniels, everyones been there even in their dreams Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 41 minutes ago, Lars Schrøder d 13 said: Most proper foiling boats are rather tough to sail, you don't do +20 knots upwind without some work.. I do a-cats.. scary in more than 10 m/s The Doug Lordes of this world fail to understand this point, fast means that all fuckups are A. More serious and B. Avoiding them is much harder work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
βhyde 1,869 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Caecilian said: The Doug Lordes of this world fail to understand this point, fast means that all fuckups are A. More serious and B. Avoiding them is much harder work. The other thing the Dougs of the world don't understand is how much it actually cost to build a real product. From the website: POD RACER PRICE: $67,760.00 And it still doesn't have a cup holder. Only control missing from the cockpit: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 5 hours ago, βhyde said: The other thing the Dougs of the world don't understand is how much it actually cost to build a real product. From the website: POD RACER PRICE: $67,760.00 And it still doesn't have a cup holder. Only control missing from the cockpit: Doug only builds pond models I believe, so no danger of ejection. But if he and Brent ever got together and made an Origami tri foiler we'll be sure to advise them! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastern motors 162 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Is the starboard display apparent wind speed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
βhyde 1,869 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Not being a foiler myself, can anyone explain to me why this thing has roll control? Why would you need to bank the boat? And while we're at it, why does the driver need to actively control pitch angle with the joystick if the wands are doing their job? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Liquid 649 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Roll to increase RM? Clearly the wands aren't doing shit! What ever did happen to DL? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DELETED 208 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 7 hours ago, βhyde said: Not being a foiler myself, can anyone explain to me why this thing has roll control? Why would you need to bank the boat? And while we're at it, why does the driver need to actively control pitch angle with the joystick if the wands are doing their job? In a blaring automated GPS voice with Alarm buzzing interspersed:“Terrain!!...Pullup!....Terrain!!....Pullup!.....” 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
βhyde 1,869 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Liquid said: Roll to increase RM? Clearly the wands aren't doing shit! What ever did happen to DL? Not a clue. I'm guessing on most foilers that once the ride height is set, you use your body and continuous sail trim to manage the boat's attitude and try not to auger in. But since you are strapped into a human death pod, maybe that really isn't possible. Didn't the Hobie Tri-Foiler already do this? Now I know why there is no cupholder. Having to steer the boat with your feet and two hands to muscle the stick around just doesn't leave any spare appendages available for refreshments. Can you imagine how much fun this thing will be to dock in any kind of breeze? Jumping out of the Laz-e-Boy and running across the super smooth wingy things without slipping before it tries to take off is not going to be a thing of beauty. Oops, forgot to uncleat the mainsheet. Super entertaining for the other boat club members though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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