Jump to content

It’s the Format not the Boats


Recommended Posts

25 minutes ago, FoilingMonohull said:

 

While AM was fast, I think it was a difficult boat to sail and maneuver, every time I saw a shot of Barker he looked stressed to max, like he was totally uncomfortable and barely holding on. However, LR seems to be very easy to sail, I think LR would have beaten AM on that alone.

The ergonomics of AM looked wrong for Barker as well, he was always positioned awkwardly, or maybe that was the stress.  It didn’t look pleasant either way. 

Link to post
Share on other sites

I loved the slow motion drama of some past AC’s but let’s not over-glorify those memories. As with now, most were 2 hour blowout slogs after the start. 
 

From the very first moment this AC75 concept got posted I was, and still am, floored. 
 

Yes, the starts have so far been the killer moves but there’s still fun to be had in the different ways they attack and defend, and the crew and boat performances are nothing less than shocking! :) 

If we get up into mid-range wind speeds tomorrow things could change up but I’m not gonna lose awe for these boats either way. 

Link to post
Share on other sites

The course limits "boundaries" must remain to provide the field of play, but remove the windward hip boat advantage.

The to leeward and ahead boat is currently disadvantaged when reaching the boundary because the windward boat can tack with the leeward boat and gain a "close" leebow position.

There is a warning to the individual boat when it is 150 metres from the boundary.

Change the rule so that when a boat breaks that boundary, the other boat must tack PRIOR to breaking that boundary. Essentially the "forward" boat which is to leeward and ahead crosses into the zone and must tack before the boundary, but the windward and behind boat must tack before the 150 metre zone boundary.

This removes the potential to gain a "close" leebow position on the "forward" boat once they have tacked and sailing out of zone.

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, Don said:

The course limits "boundaries" must remain to provide the field of play, but remove the windward hip boat advantage.

The to leeward and ahead boat is currently disadvantaged when reaching the boundary because the windward boat can tack with leeward boat and gain a leebow position.

There is a warning to the individual boat when it is 150 metres from the boundary.

Change the rule so that when a boat breaks that boundary, the other boat must tack PRIOR to breaking that boundary. Essentially the "forward" boat which is to leeward and ahead crosses into the zone and must tack before the boundary, but the windward and behind boat must tack before the 150 metre zone boundary.

This removes the potential to gain a leebow position on the "forward" boat going into the zone.

Gapped to windward has always been a winning start in match racing. If you started with enough gauge to live to windward, you are in control and forcing the other boat out left. The boundary currently give a slight advantage to the leeward boat that they wouldn't normally get, the ability to force a tack. 

Are we now complaining that the boat the starts better and sails better is winning? What do we expect racing to be?

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Don said:

The course limits "boundaries" must remain to provide the field of play, but remove the windward hip boat advantage.

The to leeward and ahead boat is currently disadvantaged when reaching the boundary because the windward boat can take with leeward boat and gain a leebow position.

There is a warning to the individual boat when it is 150 metres from the boundary.

Change the rule so that when a boat breaks that boundary, the other boats must tack PRIOR to breaking that boundary. Essentially the "forward" boat which is to leeward and ahead crosses into the zone and must tack before the boundary, but the windward and behind boat must tack before the 150 metre zone boundary.

This removes the potential to gain a leebow position on the "forward" boat going into the zone.

Cute, probably effective.  Could simple it down by just narrowing the course for the leading boat.  Would give the trailing boat a slight speed advantage through less tacks to counteract the dirty air as well as making it easy to break cover after a single tack.  Tweak the difference to even things up. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, sailer99 said:

Gapped to windward has always been a winning start in match racing. If you started with enough gauge to live to windward, you are in control and forcing the other boat out left. The boundary currently give a slight advantage to the leeward boat that they wouldn't normally get, the ability to force a tack. 

Are we now complaining that the boat the starts better and sails better is winning? What do we expect racing to be?

If you have enough gauge to windward to live all the way to the boundary you will most likely  not break the zone boundary before the leeward ahead boat is required to tack. Once the ahead boat tacks the windward boat is free to sail through the zone to the boundary, or tack into the close leebow position. The choice is theirs.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I’m starting to think that the best way to save whatever is left of a likely dwindling AC viewership is a Wipeout-inspired obstacle course, with each team entering the start box smashing through a giant piece of paper with their logo on it (as in American football). They then have to sail through a course with randomly placed kelp patches, a low-flying group of helis creating disturbed air, and spectator boats armed with water balloon cannons. If a boat catches a fish during the race, then the other team has to do an extra leg, and neither can finish until each crew member has chugged a can of the opposing team’s worst export beer. Or something along those lines …  

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
22 hours ago, dogwatch said:

And you suggest the course design should be..........?

Round Gt Barrier and back... 8)

Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, Will_Co said:

I’m starting to think that the best way to save whatever is left of a likely dwindling AC viewership is a Wipeout-inspired obstacle course, with each team entering the start box smashing through a giant piece of paper with their logo on it (as in American football). They then have to sail through a course with randomly placed kelp patches, a low-flying group of helis creating disturbed air, and spectator boats armed with water balloon cannons. If a boat catches a fish during the race, then the other team has to do an extra leg, and neither can finish until each crew member has chugged a can of the opposing team’s worst export beer. Or something along those lines …  

Innovation!

Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, Will_Co said:

I’m starting to think that the best way to save whatever is left of a likely dwindling AC viewership is a Wipeout-inspired obstacle course, with each team entering the start box smashing through a giant piece of paper with their logo on it (as in American football). They then have to sail through a course with randomly placed kelp patches, a low-flying group of helis creating disturbed air, and spectator boats armed with water balloon cannons. If a boat catches a fish during the race, then the other team has to do an extra leg, and neither can finish until each crew member has chugged a can of the opposing team’s worst export beer. Or something along those lines …  

I think just hitting the seal lounging on #1 buoy the other day would do it

Link to post
Share on other sites

Watching Race 9, I was beginning to think that maybe it would be a close finish. Then the Pasta eaters had to screw the pooch and give it away because they did not have the speed to stay on foils and maneuver. Once out in front the sheep herders headed straight for the corral entrance leading the sheep.

So much for a down speed tacking dual for control of the course. These boats have very little room for tactics. If you are not foiling fast enough you cannot turn the boat.

In retrospect, the Cats with the wing would be better. Only they should have 2 wings, the big one and a smaller wing so they can sail in breeze. If we are going to stay on the foiling track.

Now I gotta find a live feed for race 10 in So Cal because the NBCSN wallys are not showing it live.

Link to post
Share on other sites
On 3/14/2021 at 8:53 PM, Will_Co said:

I’m starting to think that the best way to save whatever is left of a likely dwindling AC viewership is a Wipeout-inspired obstacle course, with each team entering the start box smashing through a giant piece of paper with their logo on it (as in American football). They then have to sail through a course with randomly placed kelp patches, a low-flying group of helis creating disturbed air, and spectator boats armed with water balloon cannons. If a boat catches a fish during the race, then the other team has to do an extra leg, and neither can finish until each crew member has chugged a can of the opposing team’s worst export beer. Or something along those lines …  

Certainly each boat should be required to put itself on its side once during the race....choice of leg is up to each team but it must be outside a 5 BL zone of the marks.  A crew member must run along the mast/sail while it is in the water unaided by any equipment, touch a loud buzzer on the mast head and then dash/swim/fall back to the boat as the righting starts (at the sound of the buzzer!)

This would put a real premium on boat handling and righting skills. Plus if the righting is fast enough there would be spectacular imagery of the crew person cartwheeling down the mast.

Link to post
Share on other sites
On 3/14/2021 at 8:13 PM, loneshark64 said:

I think that boat was close, and the US boat was close. The teams collectively know infinitely more about sailing these beasts than they did at Christmas. The earlier races were beta testing and now IMHO any of the 4 could win a race against any other if they win the start. 
 

Tweak the course orientation, entry, boundaries and you probably get a similar result after a couple tries: boring races that are over after the first cross at the latest.

The problem is the boats. I was fascinated by them and now hate them in these races. This competition is telling me nothing about who is the best team and the best sailor. Except that it’s not Dean Barker.

As for having these sail in displacement mode, watching these things in displacement mode is actually worse. Like making F1 drivers have to get out and push the car every 10th lap.

Fuck this. I want to see sail changes, tacking duels, topsiders, zinc oxide, and blowdried haircuts instead of fighter pilot helmets.

I agree. The problem is is that they are trying to attract a new audience. Sailing is a very specialised sport. They wont get many non sailors watching this. They may lose more people then they gain. You really have to be a sailor to enjoy this sport. I agree. i miss the sail changes and the opportunity to put dirty air from behind. The racing is like a fast action movie with it being about the bangs with no plot. I miss the plot....

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, dullers said:

I agree. The problem is is that they are trying to attract a new audience. Sailing is a very specialised sport. They wont get many non sailors watching this. They may lose more people then they gain. You really have to be a sailor to enjoy this sport. I agree. i miss the sail changes and the opportunity to put dirty air from behind. The racing is like a fast action movie with it being about the bangs with no plot. I miss the plot....

Many people who don't own trucks watch monster truck smash rallies. It's the marketing and production value.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, NeedAClew said:

Many people who don't own trucks watch monster truck smash rallies. It's the marketing and production value.

Now you're talking. Sharpen up the bowsprits, face up to each other on a beam reach, and let rip!

Viewing figures will rocket!

Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, dullers said:

I agree. The problem is is that they are trying to attract a new audience. Sailing is a very specialised sport. They wont get many non sailors watching this. They may lose more people then they gain. You really have to be a sailor to enjoy this sport. I agree. i miss the sail changes and the opportunity to put dirty air from behind. The racing is like a fast action movie with it being about the bangs with no plot. I miss the plot....

It's the difference between test cricket and 20/20 isn't it. One is all about the slow unfolding of plot and intrigue, the other is wham bam.

Serious question - did you actually watch whole races when the AC was in the IACC boats? I used to mostly listen to the radio, as I do with test cricket.

Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, dullers said:

I agree. The problem is is that they are trying to attract a new audience. Sailing is a very specialised sport. They wont get many non sailors watching this. They may lose more people then they gain. You really have to be a sailor to enjoy this sport. I agree. i miss the sail changes and the opportunity to put dirty air from behind. The racing is like a fast action movie with it being about the bangs with no plot. I miss the plot....

The reality is that sailing has not been a spectator sport, ever.

The format of the AC will not affect viewing within the sailing community very much.

1/2 of the viewership would never watch slow old boats trudging around a traditional course with sail changes. 1/2 the viewership finds fast boats flying up and down narrow courses without much human activity boring . So only 1/2 are goingto like it anyway.  So the event organizers are going to choose the boast that they like and bee done with it.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, marlowe said:

It's the difference between test cricket and 20/20 isn't it. One is all about the slow unfolding of plot and intrigue, the other is wham bam.

Serious question - did you actually watch whole races when the AC was in the IACC boats? I used to mostly listen to the radio, as I do with test cricket.

I watched all of INeos races beginning to end as it is my own fan boy cravings. Once i became neutral I watched the start then went straight to the end to confirm that the winner of the start then won the race. A couple of times i was wrong but you get the gist.

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, EYESAILOR said:

The reality is that sailing has not been a spectator sport, ever.

The format of the AC will not affect viewing within the sailing community very much.

1/2 of the viewership would never watch slow old boats trudging around a traditional course with sail changes. 1/2 the viewership finds fast boats flying up and down narrow courses without much human activity boring . So only 1/2 are goingto like it anyway.  So the event organizers are going to choose the boast that they like and bee done with it.

You are spot on. It is just trying to grab one small part of a small audience. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, dullers said:

I watched all of INeos races beginning to end as it is my own fan boy cravings. Once i became neutral I watched the start then went straight to the end to confirm that the winner of the start then won the race. A couple of times i was wrong but you get the gist.

My question was did you use to watch the whole of the old IACC boat races, ie. 1992 -2007 (or for that matter the 12s before that), because you talk about missing certain traditional aspects of match racing.

Link to post
Share on other sites
30 minutes ago, marlowe said:

My question was did you use to watch the whole of the old IACC boat races, ie. 1992 -2007 (or for that matter the 12s before that), because you talk about missing certain traditional aspects of match racing.

I watched them all, even most of the ones where NZ wasn't competing. But I am a sad and pathetic individual.

Link to post
Share on other sites
13 minutes ago, jaysper said:

I watched them all, even most of the ones where NZ wasn't competing. But I am a sad and pathetic individual.

Thanks but we knew that already. :lol:

Link to post
Share on other sites
59 minutes ago, marlowe said:

My question was did you use to watch the whole of the old IACC boat races, ie. 1992 -2007 (or for that matter the 12s before that), because you talk about missing certain traditional aspects of match racing.

Yes where I could. But things like You tube were in their infancy then and I watched the 2003 live from my own tub. I did watch all the SF ones but again on delay and not live. I suspect in that era I saw some races but not all. Did I watch the whole race< maybe some. It became more watchable when the graphics came in, circa 2003 or 2007? I was not into the AC before those dates.

Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, dullers said:

Yes where I could. But things like You tube were in their infancy then and I watched the 2003 live from my own tub. I did watch all the SF ones but again on delay and not live. I suspect in that era I saw some races but not all. Did I watch the whole race< maybe some. It became more watchable when the graphics came in, circa 2003 or 2007? I was not into the AC before those dates.

I watched some racing in 2000 and 2003. I was in NZ and it was on broadcast tv. 2007 I listened to an audio commentary stream from Valencia. The page had a small and basic virtual eye graphic. 2013, '17, and '21 I watched all online. Since '13 the format has been geared to tv; shorter courses, shorter races, much improved graphics. They have been trying to attract a new audience as a way of commercialising the event. I agree with you that sailboat racing will always be for a small niche audience of mostly sailors and aficionados. It's probably a larger audience now but mostly as a result of the greater availability rather than growing interest.

Link to post
Share on other sites
41 minutes ago, marlowe said:

I watched some racing in 2000 and 2003. I was in NZ and it was on broadcast tv. 2007 I listened to an audio commentary stream from Valencia. The page had a small and basic virtual eye graphic. 2013, '17, and '21 I watched all online. Since '13 the format has been geared to tv; shorter courses, shorter races, much improved graphics. They have been trying to attract a new audience as a way of commercialising the event. I agree with you that sailboat racing will always be for a small niche audience of mostly sailors and aficionados. It's probably a larger audience now but mostly as a result of the greater availability rather than growing interest.

I dont think there is money in sailing in regards the general public. My Country the UK likes to watch that feckless game called soccer or football(I was told off on here or some other forum that i could not be English because i used the term soccer.) What they failed to understand was my total lack of interest in the game and watching players pretending they were hurt for large amounts of wad.)They wont be watching sailing even if we won the AC for the next 300 years. Sailing is possibly important in NZ but it is a way for a small country to project itself on to the world stage in a way other countries dont have to. I am married to a Kiwi and not a single one follows the sailing. I have to make her go sailing with me. Fair enough, she makes me live in a house as well.

Link to post
Share on other sites
21 hours ago, NeedAClew said:

Many people who don't own trucks watch monster truck smash rallies. It's the marketing and production value.

I would say that many people who have never owned boats or sailed will not watch sailing now or ever.

Link to post
Share on other sites
20 hours ago, EYESAILOR said:

The reality is that sailing has not been a spectator sport, ever.

The format of the AC will not affect viewing within the sailing community very much.

1/2 of the viewership would never watch slow old boats trudging around a traditional course with sail changes. 1/2 the viewership finds fast boats flying up and down narrow courses without much human activity boring . So only 1/2 are goingto like it anyway.  So the event organizers are going to choose the boast that they like and bee done with it.

Good point.

Link to post
Share on other sites
23 hours ago, NeedAClew said:

Many people who don't own trucks watch monster truck smash rallies. It's the marketing and production value.

I am guessing most of the audience for this actually does...

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, dullers said:

I dont think there is money in sailing in regards the general public. My Country the UK likes to watch that feckless game called soccer or football(I was told off on here or some other forum that i could not be English because i used the term soccer.) What they failed to understand was my total lack of interest in the game and watching players pretending they were hurt for large amounts of wad.)They wont be watching sailing even if we won the AC for the next 300 years. Sailing is possibly important in NZ but it is a way for a small country to project itself on to the world stage in a way other countries dont have to. I am married to a Kiwi and not a single one follows the sailing. I have to make her go sailing with me. Fair enough, she makes me live in a house as well.

Winning gets attention. Before success at the Olympics, and Wiggins winning the Tour de France, cycle racing wasn't on the radar for the UK. If Ainslie wins the AC there will be plenty of coverage and people will take notice, the Brits love an excuse to wave the flag. Speaking of countries wanting to project themselves on the world stage, the UK (for political reasons) would love that.

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, marlowe said:

Winning gets attention. Before success at the Olympics, and Wiggins winning the Tour de France, cycle racing wasn't on the radar for the UK. If Ainslie wins the AC there will be plenty of coverage and people will take notice, the Brits love an excuse to wave the flag. Speaking of countries wanting to project themselves on the world stage, the UK (for political reasons) would love that.

It's going take far more than winning the AC for the UK to project itself in a good light to the world. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, marlowe said:

Winning gets attention. Before success at the Olympics, and Wiggins winning the Tour de France, cycle racing wasn't on the radar for the UK. If Ainslie wins the AC there will be plenty of coverage and people will take notice, the Brits love an excuse to wave the flag. Speaking of countries wanting to project themselves on the world stage, the UK (for political reasons) would love that.

I disagree. It wont attract a new audience. Cycling has always been big in the UK. Watching the Tour de Drugs not so much. Our success Olympic wise started when the lottery put loads of money in.

Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, dullers said:

I disagree. It wont attract a new audience. Cycling has always been big in the UK. Watching the Tour de Drugs not so much. Our success Olympic wise started when the lottery put loads of money in.

Cycling didn't get the attention of the wider public until the success at the 2008 Olympics. Before that I wouldn't say interest was any bigger than sailing, ie. it was a niche sport.

Unless Ainslie can do the deed we may never know whether the AC would attract a UK audience. I don't know figures but I believe there was considerable interest in Italy, and that was just for coming close.

Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, marlowe said:

Cycling didn't get the attention of the wider public until the success at the 2008 Olympics. Before that I wouldn't say interest was any bigger than sailing, ie. it was a niche sport.

Unless Ainslie can do the deed we may never know whether the AC would attract a UK audience. I don't know figures but I believe there was considerable interest in Italy, and that was just for coming close.

Incredible interest in Italy that will translate into nothing. Win or lose in the UK the audience wont change. Big interest in sailing at the Olympics. It is not the sailing that draws people in it is the Gold medal tally. It translates into not much after it is over. Sailing is a niche sport and will remain a You tube audience. Italy is not a sporting nation. The Uk it is. Sport is part of our culture and I suspect that the Uk is successful in more sports across the board then any other on the planet. People in the Uk watch soccer and Wimbledon for a couple of weeks. Every other sport has good participation but very little audience draw with maybe the exception of some cricket and some rugby. Outside of soccer where the clubs draw a global audience the other club like structures are hardly watched. Hard also to draw an audience when you are outside the major audience time zones as well. I know I ramble..... Ps this is an enjoyable ramble we are having.

Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, dullers said:

Italy is not a sporting nation. 

I beg to differ. They are every bit as passionate as the Poms, it's just that they don't go about trying to punch the fuck out of each other like the dopey cunts in the mother land do.

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, The Advocate said:

I beg to differ. They are every bit as passionate as the Poms, it's just that they don't go about trying to punch the fuck out of each other like the dopey cunts in the mother land do.

Bwahahahahahahaha!

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, The Advocate said:

I beg to differ. They are every bit as passionate as the Poms, it's just that they don't go about trying to punch the fuck out of each other like the dopey cunts in the mother land do.

In Italy people are mad about Calcio (soccer), Formula 1 (especially when Ferrari wins) and MotoGP (the Valentino Rossi marked an era). All other sports are not even contemplated for mainstream TV coverage, with exception of the Olympics, Alpine skiiing (when an Italian is winning) and the America's Cup pnly when an Italian team is involved. Nobody normally cares about sailing, but for Luna Rossa there are tifosi like for the national football team. ;)

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, The Advocate said:

I beg to differ. They are every bit as passionate as the Poms, it's just that they don't go about trying to punch the fuck out of each other like the dopey cunts in the mother land do.

I am not talking about passion. I am talking about participation and audience. The Brits do and watch Football, Rugby both league and union, Cricket, Wimbledon and a host more. Just look at the medal tables in the Olympics. Italy has neither invented many sports or watched a wide variety of sports. It is not a put town it is just a difference of culture. Lets not even look at Darts, snooker etc. I suspect i fell for your troll reply.

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, dullers said:

Italy has neither invented many sports or watched a wide variety of sports.

Not has the rest of the world.

We just wait for you to invent the sports so we can show you how to play em! :lol:

Now THAT was a troll.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, jaysper said:

Not has the rest of the world.

We just wait for you to invent the sports so we can show you how to play em! :lol:

Now THAT was a troll.

Which ones?

Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, dullers said:

I am not talking about passion. I am talking about participation and audience. The Brits do and watch Football, Rugby both league and union, Cricket, Wimbledon and a host more. Just look at the medal tables in the Olympics. Italy has neither invented many sports or watched a wide variety of sports. It is not a put town it is just a difference of culture. Lets not even look at Darts, snooker etc. I suspect i fell for your troll reply.

But you should read this :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcio_Fiorentino

Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, dullers said:

Which ones?

Hmm, Soccer, Cricket, Sailing (Ok I'm  sure you didn't invent that one, but you guys built and re-built the cup).

Oooh, tennis too right?

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, jaysper said:

Hmm, Soccer, Cricket, Sailing (Ok I'm  sure you didn't invent that one, but you guys built and re-built the cup).

Oooh, tennis too right?

When was your soccer world cup win? Or is a one off victory against our football wankers a lesson for us? Cricket??? Even I watched that game and we won.....Tennis I am not sure about as I cant think of a Kiwi Wimbledon winner and sailing is broader than the AC. Olympic sailing provides a wider view on sailing with the different classes. My real point is that the Brits are competitive across more sports than any other nation. We even won a rugby world cup once.....

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, jaysper said:

Hmm, Soccer, Cricket, Sailing (Ok I'm  sure you didn't invent that one, but you guys built and re-built the cup).

Oooh, tennis too right?

We must admit that the British have been amazing in inventing sports that still are the coolest in the world! I'm a huge fan of squash, for instance. The British are for sports what Italy is for food.

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, strider470 said:

We must admit that the British have been amazing in inventing sports that still are the coolest in the world! I'm a huge fan of squash, for instance. The British are for sports what Italy is for food.

We are not always top dog in the sports we invent but we are there about. When we meet up you cook and I will make you play Rugby.

Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, dullers said:

When was your soccer world cup win? Or is a one off victory against our football wankers a lesson for us? Cricket??? Even I watched that game and we won.....Tennis I am not sure about as I cant think of a Kiwi Wimbledon winner and sailing is broader than the AC. Olympic sailing provides a wider view on sailing with the different classes. My real point is that the Brits are competitive across more sports than any other nation. We even won a rugby world cup once.....

LOL! Its unusual for you to fall for such an obvious troll Dullers.

You ok?

Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, dullers said:

We are not always top dog in the sports we invent but we are there about. When we meet up you cook and I will make you play Rugby.

ahahahahah if we play after dinner it will be good if we can even walk :D :D

Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, jaysper said:

LOL! Its unusual for you to fall for such an obvious troll Dullers.

You ok?

I know i should have left it.....It must be the vaccine. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, strider470 said:

ahahahahah if we play after dinner it will be good if we can even walk :D :D

I think we will both snooze.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, dullers said:

I know i should have left it.....It must be the vaccine. 

LOL! I even said I was trolling you, which is why I was super surprised.

Vaccine making you feel like shit or is it ok?

Hows the rollout going over there?

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, jaysper said:

LOL! I even said I was trolling you, which is why I was super surprised.

Vaccine making you feel like shit or is it ok?

Hows the rollout going over there?

I wish we were as good at the AC as we are at the roll out.......I was looking for excuses. It gave me a dead arm and that is all. The missus was sick for 24 hours but has now recovered. Half way through the population now.

Link to post
Share on other sites

 

 

7 hours ago, JALhazmat said:

That’s fine as long as the rules and spec for aC38 are defined exactly prior to AC37 or you are just sailing your boats around with no idea of the criteria that will apply to them other than being a 75ft foiling mono hull. 
 

plus if you are doing this is shoots a hole in the argument to reject the two cup cycle proposal, if you hated the idea of being dictated too so much you wouldn’t be two boat testing 

Exactly!

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, dullers said:

I wish we were as good at the AC as we are at the roll out.......I was looking for excuses. It gave me a dead arm and that is all. The missus was sick for 24 hours but has now recovered. Half way through the population now.

Well thats good.

Are they going to open the borders back up and end all the stupid restrictions as soon as they get to 100% (or near enuff)?

Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, jaysper said:

Well thats good.

Are they going to open the borders back up and end all the stupid restrictions as soon as they get to 100% (or near enuff)?

We may be open but all the other countries will be in lockdown. Sort of all revved up with no place to go....

Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, dullers said:

We may be open but all the other countries will be in lockdown. Sort of all revved up with no place to go....

Ah, so like a strip joint then? Sweet :wacko:

But I'm guessing it will make you guys a destination for tourism bringing in some much needed bucks.

Our wunderkind have managed to kill our tourism and hospo industry despite burning money quicker than Nicholas Cage on speed.

Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, dullers said:

We may be open but all the other countries will be in lockdown. Sort of all revved up with no place to go....

Isle of Wight?

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, jaysper said:

Ah, so like a strip joint then? Sweet :wacko:

But I'm guessing it will make you guys a destination for tourism bringing in some much needed bucks.

Our wunderkind have managed to kill our tourism and hospo industry despite burning money quicker than Nicholas Cage on speed.

I think our hospitality industry is pretty well fecked as well.....

Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, marlowe said:

Isle of Wight?

Been there....I can see it out of our top bedroom window.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, marlowe said:

You'll have a prime seat for the racing then. :)

It will be in NZ again i think?

Link to post
Share on other sites

watching those boats (watercraft) on that course was like watching a boat sail a football field. I would like to see a distance race with more turns and angles then up and back. Every race I do is like that not a triple sausage 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, dullers said:

It will be in NZ again i think?

Yes, I think most likely the match will be in NZ. There might be some sort of ETNZ / INEOS exhibition race in the meantime.

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, dullers said:

I am not talking about passion. I am talking about participation and audience. The Brits do and watch Football, Rugby both league and union, Cricket, Wimbledon and a host more. Just look at the medal tables in the Olympics. Italy has neither invented many sports or watched a wide variety of sports. It is not a put town it is just a difference of culture. Lets not even look at Darts, snooker etc. I suspect i fell for your troll reply.

Wasn't a troll response at all and your argument is so flawed it just isn't worth it.

Link to post
Share on other sites
32 minutes ago, The Advocate said:

Wasn't a troll response at all and your argument is so flawed it just isn't worth it.

Point out the flaw. Stops you looking like a troll then.

Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, dullers said:

Point out the flaw. Stops you looking like a troll then.

You're engaging in a pissing contest. "We are a bigger sporting nation than you!" Who gives a fuck.

We follow that line and I am sure AUS and NZL would give you a bloody good run for your money. It's lame.

Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, The Advocate said:

You're engaging in a pissing contest. "We are a bigger sporting nation than you!" Who gives a fuck.

We follow that line and I am sure AUS and NZL would give you a bloody good run for your money. It's lame.

You should read all the posts instead of fostering your narrow view on us. The issue is as to why getting an audience for sailing will never be large because of the competition of other sports in the UK. Try reading them all before revealing your hurty feelings....

 

I will quote Jasper as he put it best....in reply to you..."Bwahahahahahahaha!"

Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, dullers said:

You should read all the posts instead of fostering your narrow view on us. The issue is as to why getting an audience for sailing will never be large because of the competition of other sports in the UK. Try reading them all before revealing your hurty feelings....

 

I will quote Jasper as he put it best....in reply to you..."Bwahahahahahahaha!"

It is a global market.

You misunderstood Jaspers remark.

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, dullers said:

Been there....I can see it out of our top bedroom window.

I've been there too. Went to check out the RYS in Cowes. Cute cannons.

Loved the hovercraft ride and vehicular ferry too.

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, The Advocate said:

It is a global market.

You misunderstood Jaspers remark.

It was the extra ha in ."Bwahahahahahahaha!"  that threw me.

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Sailbydate said:

I've been there too. Went to check out the RYS in Cowes. Cute cannons.

Loved the hovercraft ride and vehicular ferry too.

It is great watching the hovercraft coming up the ramp. Expensive ferry trips though!!! I dont think I have been into RYS but am not sure if we did not go in as a kid.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...