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Good idea Grrr! I believe he should be covered under his supplemental Medicare insurance. - But, we'll ensure that all his medical bills are covered. However Mark used all his money putting his daughter Anna through college. Mark could use a booster like this, and knowing Mark he'd use the extra prudently. Kim Bottles asked about this and getting the go ahead from Hope, and I'll ask Hope today when she calls.

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I have a lot of work ahead of me still. I am and isolation for 2 weeks still at the new facility. I have so much to say to all of you that and so much for Hope and I, My heart has been touched an

Hobot was kept on a drug that put a protective layer over the ulcer yesterday and last night. The bleeding has been stemmed. He was taken off the respirator this morning. However his blood pressure ke

It appears as if Hobot is on the road to recovery. He's propped in his hospital bed up and alert, cutting it up with his nurses. He's also being combative with one of his doctors a tall blonde Doctor

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4 hours ago, Grrr... said:

Boomer - gonna ask a question about Hobot that hopefully isn't too personal.  Is his family in need of anything the community here can provide?  I'm thinking if they're having a rough time and some money could help, this is one of those cases where a  Go-Fund-Me would both make sense and be going to a very deserving individual.  Medical costs can be expensive.

Not to be snarky, and I'm with you 100% on this whole post, but.....

 Medical expenses are devastatingly expensive for 99% of us. They don't need to be. My wife and I are scrambling to pay for both my recent back surgery, and her more recent "Who knows what it is? We'll do more tests" condition. The medical people never actually seem to know, or do anything, but the business office has no problem billing for every little fucking thing.

If I knew a good lawyer I'd sue the fuck out of the UF and NFMC people. It wouldn't help us physically, but it would make paying the ridiculous bills for no service more bearable.

 

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4 hours ago, Grrr... said:

Boomer - gonna ask a question about Hobot that hopefully isn't too personal.  Is his family in need of anything the community here can provide?  I'm thinking if they're having a rough time and some money could help, this is one of those cases where a  Go-Fund-Me would both make sense and be going to a very deserving individual.  Medical costs can be expensive.

I thought he had COVID, not Gorilla Glue in his hair.

Bad attempt at humor aside, I'm sure many of us would readily contribute.

 

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21 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said:

If I knew a good lawyer I'd sue the fuck out of the UF and NFMC people. It wouldn't help us physically, but it would make paying the ridiculous bills for no service more bearable.

Sorrey to saye, they ussuialley haive goode lawyeres to............       :)   

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3 hours ago, Snaggletooth said:

Sorrey to saye, they ussuialley haive goode lawyeres to............       :)   

They have very good lawyers.  When I spoke to a number of high end attorneys about an issue, I was informed that it would only have been worth it if I had died.  True story. 

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18 minutes ago, El Mariachi said:

Despite the gravity & the seriousness of the situation.....that's one of the funniest posts I've seen in a month....

I'm sure we can get gorilla glue smuggled in there, just for  shits and giggles.

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3 hours ago, Snaggletooth said:

Sorrey to saye, they ussuialley haive goode lawyeres to............       :)   

yeah, but i'm trying to get sol.

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Here in the Antipodes, my State has only had 6 deaths, but as of yesterday we are in lock-down with a growing outbreak.  It's not going away any time soon.

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9 hours ago, Mrleft8 said:

Not to be snarky, and I'm with you 100% on this whole post, but.....

 Medical expenses are devastatingly expensive for 99% of us. They don't need to be. My wife and I are scrambling to pay for both my recent back surgery, and her more recent "Who knows what it is? We'll do more tests" condition. The medical people never actually seem to know, or do anything, but the business office has no problem billing for every little fucking thing.

If I knew a good lawyer I'd sue the fuck out of the UF and NFMC people. It wouldn't help us physically, but it would make paying the ridiculous bills for no service more bearable.

 

This is tragic - let your politicians know that universal health care is a thing that most civilized countries have had for a very long time.

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1 hour ago, Rain Man said:

This is tragic - let your politicians know that universal health care is a thing that most civilized countries have had for a very long time.

The US medical industrial complex must be making a killing out of the pandemic.

Here in AUS it's the complete opposite.  Friend of mine had a minor stroke and was taken to the local private hospital semi-conscious.  After four days of treatment and endless tests he was improving and I went to visit him.

He told me he had a visit from the Admin manager that morning.  She had a clipboard and asked him lot's of questions including "Do you have private medical insurance?"

He said he cancelled it just six months earlier.  She said that was lucky, if he had private insurance that his contribution after claiming would be $15,000.  But as he had no cover, the cost to him was $ZERO!  $35,000 charged to the government.  True story

He left three days latter with a small bag that was 3 months supply of blood thinning drugs that were government subsidised and cost him $55.

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9 hours ago, Blue Crab said:

I'm thinking ben crump is the hottest lawyer in the country

Sidney Powell may be available.

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3 hours ago, rantro said:

The US medical industrial complex must be making a killing out of the pandemic.

Here in AUS it's the complete opposite.  Friend of mine had a minor stroke and was taken to the local private hospital semi-conscious.  After four days of treatment and endless tests he was improving and I went to visit him.

He told me he had a visit from the Admin manager that morning.  She had a clipboard and asked him lot's of questions including "Do you have private medical insurance?"

He said he cancelled it just six months earlier.  She said that was lucky, if he had private insurance that his contribution after claiming would be $15,000.  But as he had no cover, the cost to him was $ZERO!  $35,000 charged to the government.  True story

He left three days latter with a small bag that was 3 months supply of blood thinning drugs that were government subsidised and cost him $55.

I've had the pleasure(?) of being treated in the German medical care sytem on numerous occasions, including 2 total knee replacements over the years.  My wife works in Germany and I am covered on her insurance plan.  The out of pocket cost to me has been less that $500.00 total.  When you are admitted to the hospital you have to pay 10 euro a day.  You also have a very small co-pay on some, not all prescription medications.  The maximum co-pay is 8 euro for meds.

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3 hours ago, rantro said:

The US medical industrial complex must be making a killing out of the pandemic.

Here in AUS it's the complete opposite.  Friend of mine had a minor stroke and was taken to the local private hospital semi-conscious.  After four days of treatment and endless tests he was improving and I went to visit him.

He told me he had a visit from the Admin manager that morning.  She had a clipboard and asked him lot's of questions including "Do you have private medical insurance?"

He said he cancelled it just six months earlier.  She said that was lucky, if he had private insurance that his contribution after claiming would be $15,000.  But as he had no cover, the cost to him was $ZERO!  $35,000 charged to the government.  True story

He left three days latter with a small bag that was 3 months supply of blood thinning drugs that were government subsidised and cost him $55.

wonder where the gov't got the money.

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On 3/29/2021 at 5:27 AM, Snaggletooth said:

He wassente hearre for Ian Dubbin and Chazz fassco, and ressulteng Gracie Grapenipps persona, Brentte Swaime geyyeng the boote, PB's roade to recoverey frome covid, and Cleane reallizing he cante macke a liveng bing a pro-bono lawyer for SA.  We neede hisse imputte on thisse silley popularitey conteste licke/dislicke buttuns to.                             :)

You forgot Austin 1972"s passing.....

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9 minutes ago, DarthSailor said:

wonder where the gov't got the money.

Formerly from the middle class.  ‘Boma Care was one of the largest transfers of wealth ever.
 

Until the Wuh Flu.  
 

Of course now, they just print money.  Trillion here, trillion there, sooner or later, that’s real money.  Are we broke yet?

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31 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

You forgot Austin 1972"s passing.....

That was sad, I'll miss seeing his posts a lot.

26 minutes ago, Charlie Foxtrot said:


Of course now, they just print money.  Trillion here, trillion there, sooner or later, that’s real money.  Are we broke yet?

Yup, we are.  The realization hasn't set in yet, and it will be scary when it eventually does.

 

Get better Hobot, you got a lot more pics to upload when they bring back your thread.

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5 minutes ago, Jkdubz808 said:

That was sad, I'll miss seeing his posts a lot.

Yup, we are.  The realization hasn't set in yet, and it will be scary when it eventually does.

 

Get better Hobot, you got a lot more pics to upload when they bring back your thread.

It's all made up, who cares.  

Economics isn't like physics where certain laws need to be obeyed.  Most of economics has been made up by a few smart people, and  lot of people who think they are smart.  The only inviolable law of economics is that human greed is limitless.

The worst that will happen is it gets blown up and then it's just a matter of making up something else, equally subjective and starting over. 

Fucking with real science has real consequences, such as the end of the world as we know it. 

 

Go the Hobot! 

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I sent Boothie a link to the Austin72 thread. No word from Hope yesterday. I usually let her call me. I didn't want to call and bother her last night in case she was doing a virtual facetime with Hobot.

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Thanks for the update, Booms!

Get better Hobot! People here care about you. 

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I whish you, Hobot, a speedy and full recovery.

You are one of the gems of these forums, without any doubt.

And all my condoleances for your Mom...

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3 hours ago, Charlie Foxtrot said:

Formerly from the middle class.  ‘Boma Care was one of the largest transfers of wealth ever.
 

Until the Wuh Flu.  
 

Of course now, they just print money.  Trillion here, trillion there, sooner or later, that’s real money.  Are we broke yet?

closer we get the Less Toilet Paper on the shelves

 

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6 hours ago, DarthSailor said:

wonder where the gov't got the money.

Wonder where the insurance got the money ... and how much they gave to the CEO?  

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10 hours ago, rantro said:

The US medical industrial complex must be making a killing out of the pandemic.

Here in AUS it's the complete opposite.  Friend of mine had a minor stroke and was taken to the local private hospital semi-conscious.  After four days of treatment and endless tests he was improving and I went to visit him.

He told me he had a visit from the Admin manager that morning.  She had a clipboard and asked him lot's of questions including "Do you have private medical insurance?"

He said he cancelled it just six months earlier.  She said that was lucky, if he had private insurance that his contribution after claiming would be $15,000.  But as he had no cover, the cost to him was $ZERO!  $35,000 charged to the government.  True story

He left three days latter with a small bag that was 3 months supply of blood thinning drugs that were government subsidised and cost him $55.

actually hospitals have been losing money. insurances denying claims or way underpaying. The administrators have been going nuts. also the closing of the ORs which are the money makers hurt big time. When preparing for second surge there was no talk of holding off on elective procedures

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5 hours ago, Ed Lada said:

It's all made up, who cares.  

Economics isn't like physics where certain laws need to be obeyed.  Most of economics has been made up by a few smart people, and  lot of people who think they are smart.  The only inviolable law of economics is that human greed is limitless.

The worst that will happen is it gets blown up and then it's just a matter of making up something else, equally subjective and starting over. 

Fucking with real science has real consequences, such as the end of the world as we know it. 

 

Go the Hobot! 

If I may;  there is some science to economics.  There are concepts such as Markowitz's "don't put all your eggs in one basket when investing" and Riccaro's Law of Comparative Advantage that are derivable from first principles.  The issue is that what maximizes the return using those laws is a function of culture.  Friedman was notorious for trying to say that there was a maximized culture.  That the things that were important to him should (the great parental phrase) be of importance to you. I think that it is this part of economics to which you are referring. My say on the matter is that human greed is limitless does not apply to all people.  It is therefore not a law.

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4 minutes ago, Laker said:

If I may;  there is some science to economics.  There are concepts such as Markowitz's "don't put all your eggs in one basket when investing" and Riccaro's Law of Comparative Advantage that are derivable from first principles.  The issue is that what maximizes the return using those laws is a function of culture.  Friedman was notorious for trying to say that there was a maximized culture.  That the things that were important to him should (the great parental phrase) be of importance to you. I think that it is this part of economics to which you are referring. My say on the matter is that human greed is limitless does not apply to all people.  It is therefore not a law.

None of the things you quoted are laws.  Scientific laws aren't based on human nature.  And the one 'science based on human nature has gotten a lot wrong and new information changes things quickly.  In contrast, a lot of physics has held up over the years including many of the purely theoretical complex ideas expressed by Einstein.  Economics is a valid field of study, but it isn't a science.

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7 hours ago, Charlie Foxtrot said:

Formerly from the middle class.  ‘Boma Care was one of the largest transfers of wealth ever.
 

 

how was mandating health care a transfer of wealth?    I would have to say the transfer of wealth, upwards, started with reagonomics and then with bush tax cuts for the wealthy, and then trump tax cuts for the wealthy

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1 hour ago, El Mariachi said:

Hola, oh Golden One, still tuffin' it down here on a northern Baja beach. Killin' fish, searching for that perfect taco, knocking back Mexi beers and making sure no one steals any sand. 

 

How goes the You?.....

what have been some near misses?

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21 minutes ago, Ed Lada said:

None of the things you quoted are laws.  Scientific laws aren't based on human nature.  And the one 'science based on human nature has gotten a lot wrong and new information changes things quickly.  In contrast, a lot of physics has held up over the years including many of the purely theoretical complex ideas expressed by Einstein.  Economics is a valid field of study, but it isn't a science.

The two laws I mentioned (two of many) can be derived from first principles.  Fisher's Random Walk is just as valid as Einstein's Brownian motion for which it is an analog.  These are not based on human nature.  They come from a logical extension of valid observation, which makes that aspect a science.  In the same way, the derivation of price rigidity in an oligopoly is merely the algebraic expression of concepts as basic as A + B = C.  This is not an expression of human nature.

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27 minutes ago, El Mariachi said:

Hola, oh Golden One, still tuffin' it down here on a northern Baja beach. Killin' fish, searching for that perfect taco, knocking back Mexi beers and making sure no one steals any sand. 

 

How goes the You?.....

Been good. Done 20 odd trips fishing the Pt Loma fleet the last 3 years for tuna and yellowtail. Rode my scooter around your old neighborhood in AZ a month ago. 

Other than that I just sit on my front porch in my underwear with a shotgun and a jug of moonshine and keep an eye out for strangers.

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16 minutes ago, Laker said:

The two laws I mentioned (two of many) can be derived from first principles.  Fisher's Random Walk is just as valid as Einstein's Brownian motion for which it is an analog.  These are not based on human nature.  They come from a logical extension of valid observation, which makes that aspect a science.  In the same way, the derivation of price rigidity in an oligopoly is merely the algebraic expression of concepts as basic as A + B = C.  This is not an expression of human nature.

A precept of science, that experiments are repeatable, seems to be missing in economics.

Broad generalisation definitely apply, but that doesn't make it science either

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2 hours ago, Ed Lada said:

None of the things you quoted are laws.  Scientific laws aren't based on human nature.  And the one 'science based on human nature has gotten a lot wrong and new information changes things quickly.  In contrast, a lot of physics has held up over the years including many of the purely theoretical complex ideas expressed by Einstein.  Economics is a valid field of study, but it isn't a science.

The two laws I mentioned (two of many) can be derived from first principles.  Fisher's Random Walk is just as valid as Einstein's Brownian motion for which it is an analog.  These are not based on human nature.  They come from a logical extension of valid observation, which makes that aspect a science.  In the same way, the derivation of price rigidity in an oligopoly is merely the algebraic expression of concepts as basic as A + B = C.  This is not an expression of human nature.

Sorrey Freddie, you faille to adresse EL's contentione that Finanace ist notte science.  Then throwe in termes licke 'oligopoly' foire theire 'wowe' effectte, I hesitatte to believe you.  I thick manney ortheres wille as welle.

Juste sayeng..............                :)

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1 hour ago, Dorado said:

Been good. Done 20 odd trips fishing the Pt Loma fleet the last 3 years for tuna and yellowtail. Rode my scooter around your old neighborhood in AZ a month ago. 

Didde you stoppe and praye at the RB monualmenttes?       I ussialley litte candelles to....       :)

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2 hours ago, Snaggletooth said:

Didde you stoppe and praye at the RB monualmenttes?       I ussialley litte candelles to....       :)

I did stop to use an outhouse at the Chiricahua National Monument.

It was . . . magnificent !

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2 hours ago, Dorado said:

I did stop to use an outhouse at the Chiricahua National Monument.

It was . . . magnificent !

That wasn't an outhouse, it was their Sun Temple.  (apologies to Firesign Theater)

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6 hours ago, Ease the sheet. said:

A precept of science, that experiments are repeatable, seems to be missing in economics.

Broad generalisation definitely apply, but that doesn't make it science either

However, there are repeatable experiments in economics.  Standard student experiment is to set up a portfolio of investments that vary from single investment to highly diversified.  Diversification always wins over time and always fits theory.  Markowitz is right.

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Speaking of economics - Professor of Economics from the University of Massachusetts,  Richard Wolff gives a brief on what are we going to do in these times.

 

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Hobot is off the ventilator and they pulled the intubater. He's working a bit to breath, and will till he gets stronger. On the road, pulled over now, will add more details after I get home.

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Just now, boomer said:

Hobot is off the ventilator and they pulled the intubater. He's working a bit to breath, and will till he gets stronger. On the road, pulled over now, will add more details after I get home.

Thanks Boomer. Good news. Tell him we eagerly await his return. 

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8 minutes ago, boomer said:

Hobot is off the ventilator and they pulled the intubater. He's working a bit to breath, and will till he gets stronger. On the road, pulled over now, will add more details after I get home.

Fantastic! 

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On 3/28/2021 at 5:05 PM, mad said:

The garden is sorted, my cooking skills have improved massively and i have a great bbq.

I'll stay at home, drink Gin, Wine and eat well. 

Any good wine suggestions for light lunchtime drinking?:)

Are you pairing the wine with a smokey bourbon or a spiced rum?

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1 hour ago, boomer said:

Hobot is off the ventilator and they pulled the intubater. He's working a bit to breath, and will till he gets stronger. On the road, pulled over now, will add more details after I get home.

Great news! Thanks for keeping us up to date Boomer.

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My pleasure. 

Hobot was still heavily sedated this morning, but they started weaning him off that later in the day. He'll still be sedated for a few days yet, to help with his recovery. Though still sedated, they're training him for voice commands, to see how he's recovering from being sedated and to facilitate his care. 

Discussed with Hope the financial end, and that Hobot's secondary insurance should cover the costs, but in case they don't, getting assistance if necessary. 

Also discussed setting up a Go Fund Me for Hobot. Go Fund Me has a  processing fee of 1.9% + $0.30 per donation. Which is reasonable. Paypal has a donation button feature, but their processing fee is 2.9% + $0.30 USD per donation. The six alternatives are progressively more expensive. 

The alternative is to send checks directly to Hope and Hobots address.

Any other ideas or workable donation solutions would be appreciated.

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Hobot is still going to be sedated for several more days. So sometime after that, though I'm sure Hobot would like a few more days or over a week to be well recovered. Zoom still hasn't fixed it's security woes and Facebook messenger will allow far more people in a video conference, and be more secure if Facebook platform is turned off. Been using the Facebook messenger with numerous sailors, friends, former workmates and veterans I served with for a year now with no glitches.  

How to find the little-known 'kill switch' that lets you use Facebook with the maximum amount of privacy

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29 minutes ago, boomer said:

My pleasure. 

Hobot was still heavily sedated this morning, but they started weaning him off that later in the day. He'll still be sedated for a few days yet, to help with his recovery. Though still sedated, they're training him for voice commands, to see how he's recovering from being sedated and to facilitate his care. 

Discussed with Hope the financial end, and that Hobot's secondary insurance should cover the costs, but in case they don't, getting assistance if necessary. 

Also discussed setting up a Go Fund Me for Hobot. Go Fund Me has a  processing fee of 1.9% + $0.30 per donation. Which is reasonable. Paypal has a donation button feature, but their processing fee is 2.9% + $0.30 USD per donation. The six alternatives are progressively more expensive. 

The alternative is to send checks directly to Hope and Hobots address.

Any other ideas or workable donation solutions would be appreciated.

thanks, Boomer...what ever works best

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21 hours ago, Laker said:

However, there are repeatable experiments in economics.  Standard student experiment is to set up a portfolio of investments that vary from single investment to highly diversified.  Diversification always wins over time and always fits theory.  Markowitz is right.

That's more maths than economics....

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2 hours ago, boomer said:

My pleasure. 

Hobot was still heavily sedated this morning, but they started weaning him off that later in the day. He'll still be sedated for a few days yet, to help with his recovery. Though still sedated, they're training him for voice commands, to see how he's recovering from being sedated and to facilitate his care. 

Discussed with Hope the financial end, and that Hobot's secondary insurance should cover the costs, but in case they don't, getting assistance if necessary. 

Also discussed setting up a Go Fund Me for Hobot. Go Fund Me has a  processing fee of 1.9% + $0.30 per donation. Which is reasonable. Paypal has a donation button feature, but their processing fee is 2.9% + $0.30 USD per donation. The six alternatives are progressively more expensive. 

The alternative is to send checks directly to Hope and Hobots address.

Any other ideas or workable donation solutions would be appreciated.

Doesn't PayPal have a free money transfer feature?

Account to account?

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Great to hear!

Thanks for keeping everyone spread around the country/world up to date. While only a small percentage of folks know others hanging around here in person, after so much time, one can figure out the good guys/gals. Hobot-and Boomer-certainly part of that group. 

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22 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Doesn't PayPal have a free money transfer feature?

Account to account?

 

22 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Doesn't PayPal have a free money transfer feature?

Account to account?

 

23 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Doesn't PayPal have a free money transfer feature?

Account to account?

Do you have e-transfers directly into bank accounts in Washington?

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8 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

 

For the coup de grace, do you do a BA or a BSc when you study economics?

Depends on the school. I have a BA Econ. But the school offered a BS Econ as well. Depended on how much maths you wanted to do.

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4 hours ago, boomer said:

Also discussed setting up a Go Fund Me for Hobot.

this would help non 'mericans show their appreciation .

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Thank you Boomer for the update on Hobot.  Keep us posted.  Looking forward to helping Hobot along with his recovery in return for the countless wonderful hours I invested on the Random Pic Thread.

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2 hours ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Doesn't PayPal have a free money transfer feature?

Account to account?

If you use the Family & Friends option it's free

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6 hours ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Doesn't PayPal have a free money transfer feature?

Account to account?

Does Revolut work in the USA?

(Ironically, as I typed that, spellcheck auto-corrected it to Revolution.)

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After reviewing all the options, 'gofundme' appears to be the most hassle free option. I've done the family and friends option in Paypal to send money to family, friends and a few transactions, but though most of us have a Paypal account, not everyone does. Paypal requires the recipient’s name, PayPal username, email address or mobile number and we don't want to put that out there.

Directly deposit of the funds in Hobot's account rather then withdrawing from the 'gofundme' account and depositing electronically in his account or physically withdrawing and giving the funds to Hobot, seems to be the best hassle free option.

His account # and social security number are required to set up the account for direct deposit. So sending the 'gofundme' set up link to Hope, to have her fill out the required  info is the proper thing to do.

Once the 'gofundme' is set up, I'll start a new thread for donations.

https://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001992767-Withdrawal-Guide

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46 minutes ago, boomer said:

After reviewing all the options, 'gofundme' appears to be the most hassle free option. I've done the family and friends option in Paypal to send money to family, friends and a few transactions, but though most of us have a Paypal account, not everyone does. Paypal requires the recipient’s name, PayPal username, email address or mobile number and we don't want to put that out there.

Directly deposit of the funds in Hobot's account rather then withdrawing from the 'gofundme' account and depositing electronically in his account or physically withdrawing and giving the funds to Hobot, seems to be the best hassle free option.

His account # and social security number are required to set up the account for direct deposit. So sending the 'gofundme' set up link to Hope, to have her fill out the required  info is the proper thing to do.

Once the 'gofundme' is set up, I'll start a new thread for donations.

https://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001992767-Withdrawal-Guide

Thanks Boomer. 

As a lot of us know, even with great insurance, there are a million costs that are not covered, from commuting and parking to cafeteria meals for family and caregivers at the hospital.  I urge the community to  generously support Hobot in this time of need.  

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Quite correct IB - not to mention all the other Doctors who stop by from staff to supervisory Doctors, and every one of them charging for each visit - whom mostly stopped by and sat by the window to chat. They charge for each stop, which  I found out later, when Kitsap Physicians sent me a bill separate from my hospital bill, and my insurance didn't cover their casual cursory visits, which amounted to another over $10K which I had to pay out of pocket.

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23 minutes ago, Innocent Bystander said:

Thanks Boomer. 

As a lot of us know, even with great insurance, there are a million costs that are not covered, from commuting and parking to cafeteria meals for family and caregivers at the hospital.  I urge the community to  generously support Hobot in this time of need.  

Like my wife's friend & coworker whose daughter was out for a run and got hit in a crosswalk by a drunk driver.  The ambulance sent a bill for $25,000 (not a typo, not an april fools joke) for the AMBULANCE RIDE because it was "out of network".  What the actual fuck.  You're laying in the street hit by a pickup truck because somebody failed to stop for you in a crosswalk and you have no choice on which ambulance shows up, you just want to live to see another day.  This world is sick.  Denver, Colorado in case anybody wants to know.

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Yes my wife reminded me of all the other bills we received, some not just weeks, but some months later, and a couple double charged after we paid them. Lucky we made a running file of all the bills w/copies of our payments. She also reminded me Kitsap Physicians charged $15K, but with persistence got that reduced to $10K, and with more persistence and a kind office manager reduced to $8K, since our insurance didn't cover the extra 'auxiliary' care.

 

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45 minutes ago, WCB said:

Like my wife's friend & coworker whose daughter was out for a run and got hit in a crosswalk by a drunk driver.  The ambulance sent a bill for $25,000 (not a typo, not an april fools joke) for the AMBULANCE RIDE because it was "out of network".  What the actual fuck.  You're laying in the street hit by a pickup truck because somebody failed to stop for you in a crosswalk and you have no choice on which ambulance shows up, you just want to live to see another day.  This world is sick.  Denver, Colorado in case anybody wants to know.

A good friend had a head injury and had to take a helicopter ride from eastern Oregon to a trauma center in Portland. $100,000 bill and his insurance would cover about $5000. He was able to negotiate it down and got his insurance to cover more, but damn, what a racket. Ambulance companies are pretty despicable. 

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13 minutes ago, MisterMoon said:

A good friend had a head injury and had to take a helicopter ride from eastern Oregon to a trauma center in Portland. $100,000 bill and his insurance would cover about $5000. He was able to negotiate it down and got his insurance to cover more, but damn, what a racket. Ambulance companies are pretty despicable. 

I believe Mr. Bukowski addressed some of this in one of his more popular poems:

Born into this
Into hospitals which are so expensive that it's cheaper to die
Into lawyers who charge so much it's cheaper to plead guilty
Into a country where the jails are full and the madhouses closed
Into a place where the masses elevate fools into rich heroes

https://genius.com/Charles-bukowski-dinosauria-we-annotated

Charges for services you don't even request or have no control over the provider selected to service you wouldn't fly in most industries, but the medical system seems to have mastered it.

 

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7 minutes ago, El Mariachi said:

One word-----> Kaiser Permanente. Y'all can thank me later......

YES!!   I just spent all of 2020 getting treated for cancer and thankfully we are with KP. My costs were insignificant compared to the total cost of my treatment. Non profit health care is the way to go. We have been with these people for 40+ years and have received excellent health care. 

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I had a heart episode in 2013 and my insurance co was billed $ 7000.00 by a doctor that I never spoke to or had been seen by when the insurance co refused to pay they came after me and I sent a letter stating I refused to pay for goods and services not received ...Thanks Boomer  Go Hobot.... tougher than a $2.00 steak

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12 hours ago, Innocent Bystander said:

Thanks Boomer. 

As a lot of us know, even with great insurance, there are a million costs that are not covered, from commuting and parking to cafeteria meals for family and caregivers at the hospital.  I urge the community to  generously support Hobot in this time of need.  

Want to start a list?

Grab bars for the shower.  Grab bar to get up from the toilet.  Shower/transfer chair.  Walker.  I actually got a holder for my phone because I couldn't hold it well for a while.  May need a ramp depending on his entryway and mobility. I needed a step to get into the car. Etc. Etc. Etc. 

And medical insurance will only pay for some of it. 

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14 hours ago, WCB said:

 The ambulance sent a bill for $25,000 (not a typo, not an april fools joke) for the AMBULANCE RIDE because it was "out of network".  What the actual fuck.

America is full of greedy fucking leeches.

Free ambulance here in AUS.  And it works.

Have a family member with no medical insurance carted off in the early hours of the morning, taken to hospital, life saved, total cost ... $ZERO.  Had to stay for a week with COVID-like symptoms, tests etc.

America is so fucked up.  No one cares for their fellow citizens, they just want to make money from them.

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3 minutes ago, Randro said:

America is full of greedy fucking leeches.

Free ambulance here in AUS.  And it works.

Have a family member with no medical insurance carted off in the early hours of the morning, taken to hospital, life saved, total cost ... $ZERO.  Had to stay for a week with COVID-like symptoms, tests etc.

America is so fucked up.  No one cares for their fellow citizens, they just want to make money from them.

Well yeah, that's the core of Amurican exceptionalism.  

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1 minute ago, Ed Lada said:

Well yeah, that's the core of Amurican exceptionalism.  

Hey Ed, enjoyed your blog.

I did some of the same shit as you did.  Never liked acid that much, it went on too long.  I lost some good friends then as well.

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2 hours ago, El Mariachi said:

The biggest problem with acid.....is that it doesn't come with an OFF switch....

If only!   :lol:

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9 hours ago, Grrr... said:

Want to start a list?

Grab bars for the shower.  Grab bar to get up from the toilet.  Shower/transfer chair.  Walker.  I actually got a holder for my phone because I couldn't hold it well for a while.  May need a ramp depending on his entryway and mobility. I needed a step to get into the car. Etc. Etc. Etc. 

And medical insurance will only pay for some of it. 

Exactly. I needed extensive treatment and surgery from a specialty cancer center in Manhattan. Insurance covered it all without an issue. Except for travel there, a place to stay for me and family, restaurant meals, etc. “hospital rate” hotel rooms in midtown ran $250-350/night and didn’t qualify as medical expenses, etc. The hospital does what it can to help find affordable accommodations but that is not much in Manhattan. Add in SWMBO taking Family Leave time off without pay for a lot of it.  Our employers did set us up for mostly remote work and that helped.  I’m told some of my “emails while on pain meds” were pretty classic. 
 

Bottom line is that any of us who have dealt with major medical issues can point to plenty of uncovered and unexpected expenses. Hobot has given us a lot of his time and energy. The least we can do is support him. 

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14 hours ago, Grrr... said:

Want to start a list?

Grab bars for the shower.  Grab bar to get up from the toilet.  Shower/transfer chair.  Walker.  I actually got a holder for my phone because I couldn't hold it well for a while.  May need a ramp depending on his entryway and mobility. I needed a step to get into the car. Etc. Etc. Etc. 

And medical insurance will only pay for some of it. 

i got a bunch of those suction cup grab bars, need a flat surface and they work well , it's good to test their hold before using..   it also can help the missus when in the shower together :)

 

 

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My doctor recommended at my age I install a bar in my shower.  Good idea, I said, but how do you keep the ice cold?

Best wishes to H & H.

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Just now, P_Wop said:

My doctor recommended I install a bar in my shower.  Good idea, I said, but how do you keep the ice cold?

Best wishes to H & H.

Just a piece of advice....this isn't what my Doctor meant..........never mind how I know..........

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