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44 minutes ago, tiptree said:

Uffa Fox

That's one of those questions most of us already knew the answer to, right?

I have no innate love of royalty but wish RIP and sincere condolences to family.

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30 minutes ago, Tax Man said:

My wife's water, actually.

I love that story, from Cowes Week many years ago - Sigma 38 Class - Yeoman XXVIII

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A local Anarchist knew or met one of the members of his security detail on one of his visits here.

When asked what he was like the reply was "I'm not taking a bullet for that asshole".

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3 minutes ago, Black Jack said:

You can tell the muster of a man by the children he created and helped raise.

The Brit aristocracy have little or nothing to do with the rearing of their children.

They have nannies until they are shipped off to boarding school.

Phil did select probably the worst, most brutal of them - Gordonstoun - for Chuck.

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46 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

A local Anarchist knew or met one of the members of his security detail on one of his visits here.

When asked what he was like the reply was "I'm not taking a bullet for that asshole".

Back in the day around here folks would call BS on posts like that one.

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31 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

The Brit aristocracy have little or nothing to do with the rearing of their children.

They have nannies until they are shipped off to boarding school.

Phil did select probably the worst, most brutal of them - Gordonstoun - for Chuck.

Seems the royal family does well with abdication. His children reflect weakness of character that only good parenting could have provided - Charles and Andrew are of such poor quality and have proven they are unworthy given the magnifing glass of all meda, criminal behaviour and inconsideration of others.  Lord Mountbatten was the only man who showed the boys character and resolve for the highest duty along with the ice queen.

Henry The 5th is just a well written play to perserve the Royals. People still confuse it for reality.

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2 hours ago, quod umbra said:

Back in the day around here folks would call BS on posts like that one.

If I gave a shit I'd look up the OP.

But since I don't, I won't.

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6 hours ago, trisail said:

Prince Philip.

A keen sailor.

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A fun little story about this photograph of Prince Phillip and Uffa Fox.  It was Tuesday of Cowes Week, 1962, and blowing SW, 6, with wind against tide, heavy weather for the Flying Fifteens. Phillip and Fox had already nearly submerged the dark green COWESLIP at least once and bailed her out to resume racing.

in the near vicinity, Keith Beken of Beken of Cowes photography was out in his powerboat with a Yank friend, Richard, from STORMVOGEL's crew, aboard to assist. Shortly after this photo was taken, Phillip bore off on a plane and punched the bow into a green one, filling COWESLIP.  There was much cursing and unhappiness aboard, and Fox called over to Beken for assistance and a tow back into Cowes Roads.

Beken obliged, and with COWESLIP under tow and Uffa and the Prince bailing,  got the Flying Fifteen to Fox's waterfront home, "The Commodore's House."  There, COWESLIP's personal hoist was lowered and hooked to the lifting sling. As the boat began to come clear of the water, the heavy chain securing the crane pulled its eye out of the wall of the house and the boom of the hoist came down hard on COWESLIP, doing unknown but significant damage.  The Prince, known for his seamans' salty language, with Uffa Fox joining in, let the world know their unhappiness about their afternoon's performance with a round of expletives that should not be repeated in this public forum.

The London papers had a hey day with headlines of these royal happenings.

 

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2 hours ago, Black Jack said:

Seems the royal family does well with abdication. His children reflect weakness of character that only good parenting could have provided - Charles and Andrew are of such poor quality and have proven they are unworthy given the magnifing glass of all meda, criminal behaviour and inconsideration of others.  Lord Mountbatten was the only man who showed the boys character and resolve for the highest duty along with the ice queen.

Henry The 5th is just a well written play to perserve the Royals. People still confuse it for reality.

Blackadder is the best sequel er prequelsequel

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He wasn't a keyboard warrior/wanker like you:

Philip was appointed as a midshipman in January 1940. He spent four months on the battleship HMS Ramillies, protecting convoys of the Australian Expeditionary Force in the Indian Ocean, followed by shorter postings on HMS Kent, on HMS Shropshire, and in Ceylon.[25] After the invasion of Greece by Italy in October 1940, he was transferred from the Indian Ocean to the battleship HMS Valiant in the Mediterranean Fleet.[26]

On 1 February 1941,[27] Philip was commissioned as a sub-lieutenant after a series of courses at Portsmouth, in which he gained the top grade in four out of five sections of the qualifying examination.[28] Among other engagements, he was involved in the battle of Crete, and was mentioned in dispatches for his service during the battle of Cape Matapan, in which he controlled the battleship's searchlights. He was also awarded the Greek War Cross.[23] In June 1942, he was appointed to the V and W-class destroyer and flotilla leader HMS Wallace, which was involved in convoy escort tasks on the east coast of Britain, as well as the Allied invasion of Sicily.[29]

Promotion to lieutenant followed on 16 July 1942.[30] In October of the same year, he became first lieutenant of HMS Wallace, at 21 years old one of the youngest first lieutenants in the Royal Navy. During the invasion of Sicily, in July 1943, as second in command of Wallace, he saved his ship from a night bomber attack. He devised a plan to launch a raft with smoke floats that successfully distracted the bombers, allowing the ship to slip away unnoticed.[29] In 1944, he moved on to the new destroyer, HMS Whelp, where he saw service with the British Pacific Fleet in the 27th Destroyer Flotilla.[31][32] He was present in Tokyo Bay when the instrument of Japanese surrender was signed. Philip returned to the United Kingdom on the Whelp in January 1946, and was posted as an instructor at HMS Royal Arthur, the Petty Officers' School in Corsham, Wiltshire.

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Well, I've learnt more about PP from this thread than I ever knew before, such was how little I cared.  However, he was a sailor and a seaman, so I wish him fair winds and following seas.

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15 minutes ago, Cristoforo said:

And he managed to avoid the North Atlantic 

You mean that rough patch of ocean just offshore from Genoa?  

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I appreciate his occasional mis-speak  Good on him for hanging w/ his teenage love through all the years and good luck on the other side of the bar for less public scrutiny.  He was cast in a Royal role early on.

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1 hour ago, Sea warrior said:

Philip has passed? that’s terrible.

On the plus side, this hottie is now on the market if any of ye lusty lushes fancy yer chances..

 

 

 

That seems unnecessary somehow.

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3 minutes ago, Hitchhiker said:

Is a punch to the throat better? Asking for a friend.

You know what, while you are pontificating about the death of an old codger who lived a long life of extreme privilege, the girl who works for minimum wage down at the local  food mart to feed us all at great risk to herself during this pandemic has contributed far more to society than that old codger ever did or will, so spare me your indignation you blithering fool.

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1 minute ago, Sea warrior said:

You know what, while you are pontificating about the death of an old codger who lived a long life of extreme privilege, the girl who works for minimum wage down at the local  food mart to feed us all at great risk to herself during this pandemic has contributed far more to society than that old codger ever did or will, so spare me your indignation you blithering fool.

Oh dear. Bit of a thin skin. Take a history lesson. 

I immigrated to a new land with a duffle bag of clothes and next to zero money. And, I came from that island.

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7 minutes ago, Sea warrior said:

You know what, while you are pontificating about the death of an old codger who lived a long life of extreme privilege, the girl who works for minimum wage down at the local  food mart to feed us all at great risk to herself during this pandemic has contributed far more to society than that old codger ever did or will, so spare me your indignation you blithering fool.

He may have led a privileged life, but he used that privilege and prominence to raise a helluva a lot of money for folks like that girl and other causes, like the environment. There was a strong sense of “oblige” in his “noblesse.”

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8 minutes ago, Hitchhiker said:

Oh dear. Bit of a thin skin. Take a history lesson. 

I immigrated to a new land with a duffle bag of clothes and next to zero money. And, I came from that island.

Ahh bless,

I think it’s you old chap who’s got the thin skin threatening someone on an anonymous website for insulting an old bellend.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Sea warrior said:

Ahh bless,

I think it’s you old chap who’s got the thin skin threatening someone on an anonymous website for insulting an old bellend.

 

 

lol

A history lesson is quite the threat. Do not let knowledge get in the way of your ignorance.

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9 minutes ago, jewingiv said:

He may have led a privileged life, but he used that privilege and prominence to raise a helluva a lot of money for folks like that girl and other causes, like the environment. There was a strong sense of “oblige” in his “noblesse.”

Aye, he’s a regular robin fucking hood he is lol

Personally, I’d  much prefer if he and the rest of that inbred lot payed back all the fortunes they stole from the poor around the world. 
 Of course if they did they’d be paupers wouldn’t they?

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8 minutes ago, Hitchhiker said:

A history lesson is quite the threat. Do not let knowledge get in the way of your ignorance.

Speaking of history lessons 


Duleep Singh
 

google him

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1 hour ago, Hitchhiker said:

A history lesson is quite the threat. Do not let knowledge get in the way of your ignorance.

You say “For king and country “

I say “for shame”

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Hitchhiker said:

You must really hate the Romans!

What a silly thing to say.

Do the romans still have emperors or overseas territories or idiots like you dreaming of returning to past glories?
 

If I may be so bold as to quote myself from an other thread, 

“You know what the difference between nazis and the British empire is? The germans acknowledged their crimes, sought forgiveness and resolved never to let it happen again”

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7 hours ago, Cristoforo said:

What makes you think that? 

For a start a scheme he introduced, the Duke of Edinburgh Award Scheme positively influenced the lives of 6.7m young people (to date) in the UK alone - what the fuck have you done?

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35 minutes ago, shanghaisailor said:

For a start a scheme he introduced, the Duke of Edinburgh Award Scheme positively influenced the lives of 6.7m young people (to date) in the UK alone 

He was the figurehead for it, which is good as far as it goes. In practical terms, it was introduced by John Hunt, who also led the first successful ascent of Everest.

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14 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

The Brit aristocracy have little or nothing to do with the rearing of their children.

They have nannies until they are shipped off to boarding school.

Phil did select probably the worst, most brutal of them - Gordonstoun - for Chuck.

In the present tense? Nothing like a good old cliché, is there. Boarding schools today are full of the children of the Asian wealthy, here to learn English, and army brats, whose places are paid for by the taxpayer. As far as other children of the British go, boarders are an endangered species. 

Apart from which, "royals" are not aristocracy, the latter being a lesser breed entirely. 

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3 hours ago, Sea warrior said:

What a silly thing to say.

Do the romans still have emperors or overseas territories or idiots like you dreaming of returning to past glories?
 

If I may be so bold as to quote myself from an other thread, 

“You know what the difference between nazis and the British empire is? The germans acknowledged their crimes, sought forgiveness and resolved never to let it happen again”

The discussion isn't about the British Empire - which hasn't existed for many years - it's about a man who, finding himself at a loose end after his wife became Queen, sought out ways to introduce young people to sport as a means to make them fit and more independent. His ideas for the Playing Fields Association led onto the DoE award scheme which has helped many youngsters through their teenage angst and given them a positive outlook with which to face the future; my youngest son amongst them.

 

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15 minutes ago, grauniadangel said:

 His ideas for the Playing Fields Association

He was president for many years but it was founded in 1925, so I'm not sure he could be given credit for the ideas. 

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29 minutes ago, dogwatch said:

He was president for many years but it was founded in 1925, so I'm not sure he could be given credit for the ideas. 

Apologies if I wasn't clear, to clarify - his ideas during his 64 years of tenure. One of which was (possibly) the worlds first charity single.

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4 hours ago, grauniadangel said:

The discussion isn't about the British Empire - which hasn't existed for many years - it's about a man who, finding himself at a loose end after his wife became Queen, sought out ways to introduce young people to sport as a means to make them fit and more independent. His ideas for the Playing Fields Association led onto the DoE award scheme which has helped many youngsters through their teenage angst and given them a positive outlook with which to face the future; my youngest son amongst them.

 

Hear Hear, it is a follow on from the FP which is about a man who gave loyal service long after most people would have retired - 30 years longer to be precise. He also did great things for youngsters as you say. I was in the Sea Scouts and the Chief Scouts Award and the DoE scheme had many similarities.

And as far as the Yanks criticising the British Empire which, as you say was already on the way out when Philip arrived on the scene, well their treatment of the First Nations (some of whom are still living on reservations) was a kind of prototype for ethnic cleansing so they have nothing to crow about (no pun intended) And Britain didn't invent slavery, far from it but was one of the drivers that eventually brought about the end of the practice

If the British Empire was so terrible how come so many, after independence voluntarily became members of the British Commonwealth and 50 years on more than 50 are still members with several still considering Her Majesty as 'Head of State'.  

Anyway, back to the point of the thread, a woman has lost her husband of 73 years and all some people above can do is to try and make a pathetic political statement on the back of someone's death and their widow's sorrow- complete wankers!

And as far as the invitation to google Duleep Singh from Sea Warrior? I don't have to google "George Floyd" to be made aware of how some Americans in authority treat their fellow citizens today, never mind 150 years ago. Get your own house in order before trying to make waves elsewhere.

And your comparison between the Nazis (that's with a capital N - dork) and the British Empire, well i don't know what the fuck you are on but it can't be legal.

When did Britain last invade a country in the British Empire? I can tell you it was a bloody long time before American Troops landed in Grenada in 1983, a country in the British Commonwealth and you weren't fucking invited.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black

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3 hours ago, Caecilian said:

you have got to be fucking kidding me- sailing anarchy singing the praises of the royal family

 

 

You clearly don't understand the meaning of the word "Anarchy".  

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52 minutes ago, shanghaisailor said:

Hear Hear, it is a follow on from the FP which is about a man who gave loyal service long after most people would have retired - 30 years longer to be precise. He also did great things for youngsters as you say. I was in the Sea Scouts and the Chief Scouts Award and the DoE scheme had many similarities.

And as far as the Yanks criticising the British Empire which, as you say was already on the way out when Philip arrived on the scene, well their treatment of the First Nations (some of whom are still living on reservations) was a kind of prototype for ethnic cleansing so they have nothing to crow about (no pun intended) And Britain didn't invent slavery, far from it but was one of the drivers that eventually brought about the end of the practice

If the British Empire was so terrible how come so many, after independence voluntarily became members of the British Commonwealth and 50 years on more than 50 are still members with several still considering Her Majesty as 'Head of State'.  

Anyway, back to the point of the thread, a woman has lost her husband of 73 years and all some people above can do is to try and make a pathetic political statement on the back of someone's death and their widow's sorrow- complete wankers!

And as far as the invitation to google Duleep Singh from Sea Warrior? I don't have to google "George Floyd" to be made aware of how some Americans in authority treat their fellow citizens today, never mind 150 years ago. Get your own house in order before trying to make waves elsewhere.

And your comparison between the Nazis (that's with a capital N - dork) and the British Empire, well i don't know what the fuck you are on but it can't be legal.

When did Britain last invade a country in the British Empire? I can tell you it was a bloody long time before American Troops landed in Grenada in 1983, a country in the British Commonwealth and you weren't fucking invited.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black

Tell us more about my home country while I read about the Philippines looking to the US for help in the aggressive Chinese Imperialist takeover of the “China” Sea. 
 

You must get get back to singing the praises of your new home in paradise. In fact, that’s all you can do. One negative word, like agreeing that there is an ongoing humanitarian crisis in those re-education camps that millions share, you might get to join them. 
 

All that, and not one negative word about the death of a Royal.

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6 hours ago, grauniadangel said:

The discussion isn't about the British Empire - which hasn't existed for many years - it's about a man who, finding himself at a loose end after his wife became Queen, sought out ways to introduce young people to sport as a means to make them fit and more independent. His ideas for the Playing Fields Association led onto the DoE award scheme which has helped many youngsters through their teenage angst and given them a positive outlook with which to face the future; my youngest son amongst them.

 

Sure he did, him and old Jimmy.

I pity the kids..

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I’ve no doubt but that if you were German during the war you’d be a Nazi 

You have to be all kinds of dumb to be a royalist after what history has taught us about them.

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 "And Britain didn't invent slavery, far from it but was one of the drivers that eventually brought about the end of the practice"

Well, Britan brought it to their New World colony in 1619, thanks a NOT.  Didn't have to establish an agricultural system that featured tobacco, rice. and indigo for which use of  European indentured servants were thought to be uneconomical.  

U.S. Slavery: Timeline, Figures & Abolition - HISTORY

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By introduction,

I did the opening post.

I am South African. I am definitely not a Royalist. Under the British Empire rule my great-great grandparents and their fellow countrymen were put into concentration camps under atrocious conditions during the Boer Wars. More people died inside these camps than by enemy fire. I therefore would have plenty of reasons to knock the Royals. But I chose not to.

I am also a keen sailor.

Prince Philip was also a keen sailor. I can say that I have competed against him at Cowes Week in '85 and '86. I don't think he spotted me though! I can recall him doing a spectacular whipe-out with Yeoman ????  on a windy day in the '86 Cowes Week. But so did a number of top boats that day.

Why I did the post was because a fellow yachty had passed away.

This guy did so much for others. I have read elsewhere that his Dragon was leant out to be sailed at the Melbourne Games. Afterwards the Dragon was left at a Navy base for Navy staff to use. His big boat Bloodhound was available to introduce youngsters to sailing.

I was hoping to get some interesting sailing anecdotes about the prince.

I never expected the nasty comments posted here.

Regards.

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51 minutes ago, Sea warrior said:

Sure he did, him and old Jimmy.

I pity the kids..

D0F05B58-0B79-497C-BC43-317613F110C6.jpeg
 

I’ve no doubt but that if you were German during the war you’d be a Nazi 

You have to be all kinds of dumb to be a royalist after what history has taught us about them.

 

Interesting you say that, the family actually came to the UK in 1884 to escape persecution, i'm glad they did.

Obviously i'd appreciate a retraction of your comment but I don't think it'll be forthcoming.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Caecilian said:

oh well, everyone is old here now and swallowing the anchor, motorhome, rest home, funeral home

Or as Jane Fonda put it when her father dies;

"I guess we're moving into the turnstiles now".

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4 minutes ago, grauniadangel said:

 

Interesting you say that, the family actually came to the UK in 1884 to escape persecution, i'm glad they did.

Obviously i'd appreciate a retraction of your comment but I don't think it'll be forthcoming.

 

 

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Even Lizzy the lizard too probably isn’t a real monarch if Richie’s the tree’s dna results are to be believed 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/02/king-richard-iii-dna-cousins-queen-ancestry

 

And let’s not mention prince lugs’ (aka princess Charles) relationship to vlad, yea, that vlad.

What a wonderful bunch of pond scum you all kowtow before 


 

Any hoot!!
I’ve always maintained that for someone to be a royalist they must be of very low IQ and you’ve done nothing but reinforce my hypothesis.

 

Tally-ho old chap 

 

 

lol

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2 minutes ago, Sea warrior said:


Even Lizzy the lizard too probably isn’t a real monarch if Richie’s the tree’s dna results are to be believed 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/02/king-richard-iii-dna-cousins-queen-ancestry

 

And let’s not mention prince lugs’ (aka princess Charles) relationship to vlad, yea, that vlad.

What a wonderful bunch of pond scum you all kowtow before 


 

Any hoot!!
I’ve always maintained that for someone to be a royalist they must be of very low IQ and you’ve done nothing but reinforce my hypothesis.

 

Tally-ho old chap 

 

 

lol

 Well that's exactly as I predicted - ad hominem.

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23 minutes ago, trisail said:

By introduction,

I did the opening post.

I am South African. I am definitely not a Royalist. Under the British Empire rule my great-great grandparents and their fellow countrymen were put into concentration camps under atrocious conditions during the Boer Wars. More people died inside these camps than by enemy fire. I therefore would have plenty of reasons to knock the Royals. But I chose not to.

I am also a keen sailor.

Prince Philip was also a keen sailor. I can say that I have competed against him at Cowes Week in '85 and '86. I don't think he spotted me though! I can recall him doing a spectacular whipe-out with Yeoman ????  on a windy day in the '86 Cowes Week. But so did a number of top boats that day.

Why I did the post was because a fellow yachty had passed away.

This guy did so much for others. I have read elsewhere that his Dragon was leant out to be sailed at the Melbourne Games. Afterwards the Dragon was left at a Navy base for Navy staff to use. His big boat Bloodhound was available to introduce youngsters to sailing.

I was hoping to get some interesting sailing anecdotes about the prince.

I never expected the nasty comments posted here.

Regards.

The trouble with your reasoning is that Philip wasn’t just a Yachty. He was a symbol of a disturbing and dark institution which directly and indirectly caused more suffering than most entities the world has ever know.

If it were that he was just by chance of birth who he is, then I’d be more understanding but that is not the case.

He partook of, embraced and reinforced the symbolism, never once acknowledging the disturbing reality of that  symbolization and therefore he cannot and must not be detached from it.


  Just as the US has eventually and painfully come to the acceptance  that the confederate flag for example is a symbol from the past which has no place in an enlightened society, the world also will need to recognize the importance of confining such symbols as that monarchy to the dustbin of history .

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10 minutes ago, grauniadangel said:

 Well that's exactly as I predicted - ad hominem.

Your statement is only partially true you numpty.

 

Read a book or twenty fer christssake...

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Just now, grauniadangel said:

I'm extremely glad that you continue to confirm your own failings.

You mean like wasting my time trying to enlighten bellends like yourself?
 

lol

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1 minute ago, grauniadangel said:

Encore une fois.

Speaking of French, at least they had the balls and gumption to dispatch their monarchy to the dust bin of history.

 

 

lol

 

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2 hours ago, Meat Wad said:

no matter what kind of man he was, marring into money and not fucking it up takes some real smarts.

He held up his end, served faithfully, sailed boats, had a laugh, and wasn’t a pussy.

fair winds.

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13 minutes ago, Cristoforo said:

The discussion of reparations for slavery in  the US is to pay the families of slaves. 
According to that video The UK compensated the slave owners for their hardship in giving them up. 20 Billion pounds in today’s money  

 

I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed that absurdity.

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2 hours ago, Meat Wad said:

no matter what kind of man he was, marring into money and not fucking it up takes some real smarts.

 

15 minutes ago, loneshark64 said:

He held up his end, served faithfully, sailed boats, had a laugh, and wasn’t a pussy.

fair winds.

When you set the bar this low, one could simply fall down and still cross over it.

 

 

lol

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8 minutes ago, Sea warrior said:

 

When you set the bar this low, one could simply fall down and still cross over it.

 

 

lol

And he didn’t spill his drink while crossing over it. 
 

People need to lighten up.

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15 minutes ago, Sea warrior said:

 

When you set the bar this low, one could simply fall down and still cross over it.

 

 

lol

Can I ask, and i might be missing something here, when you sign-off with 'lol' what are you trying to convey?

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2 hours ago, grauniadangel said:

 

Interesting you say that, the family actually came to the UK in 1884 to escape persecution, i'm glad they did.

Obviously i'd appreciate a retraction of your comment but I don't think it'll be forthcoming.

 

 

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You don't get to marry the queen without being connected or without a reason

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7 minutes ago, grauniadangel said:

Can I ask, and i might be missing something here, when you sign-off with 'lol' what are you trying to convey?

That his emotional age is 15?

When he advances a couple of years it will change to "Just saying".

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39 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

That his emotional age is 15?

When he advances a couple of years it will change to "Just saying".

Nah,

im pandering to the collective IQ of my audience.

 

 

 

lol

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Woke PMC representatives are the new aristocracy

Identity politics is the next slave trade 

Obama is the modern prince Philip

Internet posters suffer from a mental illness

The weird thing is Prince Phillip bore a striking resemblance to a certain Time Lord! What's that all about??

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4 hours ago, Sea warrior said:

The trouble with your reasoning is that Philip wasn’t just a Yachty. He was a symbol of a disturbing and dark institution which directly and indirectly caused more suffering than most entities the world has ever know.

If it were that he was just by chance of birth who he is, then I’d be more understanding but that is not the case.

He partook of, embraced and reinforced the symbolism, never once acknowledging the disturbing reality of that  symbolization and therefore he cannot and must not be detached from it.


  Just as the US has eventually and painfully come to the acceptance  that the confederate flag for example is a symbol from the past which has no place in an enlightened society, the world also will need to recognize the importance of confining such symbols as that monarchy to the dustbin of history .

It is well known that Constitutional Monarchies tend to be much better governments than Republics.  The present state of the US is a very good example.  Allowing an individual such as Trump 4 years of screwing up a country without an effective control is not the best situation.  Culture eats legislation for breakfast and structure creates culture.  It is important to separate the functions of state and government.  The ship of state flows calmly on as the chaos of government churns bellow.  In the best situations, they do absolutely nothing.  As shown in the recent problems in Canada, there are solutions when it doesn't. The public's fascination with the individuals involved in state and the scrutiny of their every move shows that no one is perfect.  It is the institution that matters. 

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8 hours ago, Sail4beer said:

Tell us more about my home country while I read about the Philippines looking to the US for help in the aggressive Chinese Imperialist takeover of the “China” Sea. 
 

You must get get back to singing the praises of your new home in paradise. In fact, that’s all you can do. One negative word, like agreeing that there is an ongoing humanitarian crisis in those re-education camps that millions share, you might get to join them. 
 

All that, and not one negative word about the death of a Royal.

As Phil loved to say, - if you stay in China to long you will get slitty eyes.

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9 hours ago, shanghaisailor said:

Hear Hear, it is a follow on from the FP which is about a man who gave loyal service long after most people would have retired - 30 years longer to be precise. He also did great things for youngsters as you say. I was in the Sea Scouts and the Chief Scouts Award and the DoE scheme had many similarities.

And as far as the Yanks criticising the British Empire which, as you say was already on the way out when Philip arrived on the scene, well their treatment of the First Nations (some of whom are still living on reservations) was a kind of prototype for ethnic cleansing so they have nothing to crow about (no pun intended) And Britain didn't invent slavery, far from it but was one of the drivers that eventually brought about the end of the practice

If the British Empire was so terrible how come so many, after independence voluntarily became members of the British Commonwealth and 50 years on more than 50 are still members with several still considering Her Majesty as 'Head of State'.  

Anyway, back to the point of the thread, a woman has lost her husband of 73 years and all some people above can do is to try and make a pathetic political statement on the back of someone's death and their widow's sorrow- complete wankers!

And as far as the invitation to google Duleep Singh from Sea Warrior? I don't have to google "George Floyd" to be made aware of how some Americans in authority treat their fellow citizens today, never mind 150 years ago. Get your own house in order before trying to make waves elsewhere.

And your comparison between the Nazis (that's with a capital N - dork) and the British Empire, well i don't know what the fuck you are on but it can't be legal.

When did Britain last invade a country in the British Empire? I can tell you it was a bloody long time before American Troops landed in Grenada in 1983, a country in the British Commonwealth and you weren't fucking invited.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black

How do you expats like this thigh slapper?

Prince Philip quote: If you stay here much longer you'll all be slitty-eyed.

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2 hours ago, Laker said:

It is well known that Constitutional Monarchies tend to be much better governments than Republics.  The present state of the US is a very good example.  Allowing an individual such as Trump 4 years of screwing up a country without an effective control is not the best situation.  Culture eats legislation for breakfast and structure creates culture.  It is important to separate the functions of state and government.  The ship of state flows calmly on as the chaos of government churns bellow.  In the best situations, they do absolutely nothing.  As shown in the recent problems in Canada, there are solutions when it doesn't. The public's fascination with the individuals involved in state and the scrutiny of their every move shows that no one is perfect.  It is the institution that matters. 

I’ll see your Donald Trump and raise you a Boris Johnson.

Lol

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2 hours ago, robtoujours said:

Woke PMC representatives are the new aristocracy

Identity politics is the next slave trade 

Obama is the modern prince Philip

Internet posters suffer from a mental illness

The weird thing is Prince Phillip bore a striking resemblance to a certain Time Lord! What's that all about??

O’Bama’s grandfather was tortured by those who Philip represented.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/deadlineusa/2008/dec/03/obama-grandfather-maumau-torture

 

But get this, despite the outrageous conduct of the crown towards his grandad,  O’Bama penned a tribute to the old philandering knob, thus proving beyond a doubt that O’Bama was full of dung also..

https://people.com/politics/barack-obama-pays-tribute-prince-philip/

 

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7 hours ago, Sea warrior said:

Sure he did, him and old Jimmy.

I pity the kids..

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Y'know, in the course of his lifetime the man has probably been photographed next to, what, 100,000 other people?  So you're saying each photo is a personal endorsement?  Moron.

Just in case you really believe this, I raise your Jimmy with my Mother Teresa.

At the queen's side: Prince Philip through the years

 

 

 

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