Hydroptere 5 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Hello everybody, is someone here who can show me more information / details about the sealing system between the foil arm and the hull on the AC75 boats? The background is: I plan to build a functional scale model in the scale 1: 13.5. I am very grateful for any information and pictures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,801 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Hydroptere said: Hello everybody, is someone here who can show me more information / details about the sealing system between the foil arm and the hull on the AC75 boats? The background is: I plan to build a functional scale model in the scale 1: 13.5. I am very grateful for any information and pictures. 5 .00 shows foil arms to hull bearing not a huge amount of detail though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hydroptere 5 Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 The Hydrolic system not not my problem. All these pic´s are known. I´m searching for more details and a solution for the sealing system between the hull and the arm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flutter 17 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 So much under the hood of these boats that I would like to understand better.. Wondering if American Magic will bring the boat back to the US and display somehow? Or its forever a secret? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jorgensen 9 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 "O" rings, greased and wiper seals- possible to create a pocket to only need the O rings, but going to be nasty to assemble at scale. I see 3D printing with post finish surfacing. You want this to actually sail? Foil? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hydroptere 5 Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 yes, the goal is to fly like my RC-Multihulls https://youtu.be/wlQ1_4JWV38 AC75 T-Foil.mp4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marlowe 218 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Hydroptere said: yes, the goal is to fly like my RC-Multihulls https://youtu.be/wlQ1_4JWV38 AC75 T-Foil.mp4 1.32 MB · 0 downloads The mini40 looks fun. Good luck with the scale AC75. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
accnick 1,735 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 The real boats don't seal the foil penetration. They use a wetbox inside the hull, which must self-drain: From the Class Rule: 11.16 The enclosed volume of the hull surface, including the volumes required by Rule 11.8 must be watertight except for penetrations: .... (b) inside regions defined by cylinders of length 1.600 m and diameter 1.250 m centred on each foil cant reference point and whose axes are aligned with the foil cant axes, in order to permit foil cant, providing that the volumes inside the hull surface exposed by these penetrations shall: (i) be entirely above MWP; (ii) be entirely within the cylinder described; (iii) be separated from the remainder of the enclosed volume by a watertight boundary which need not satisfy Rule 11.19; (iv) have a total combined volume of no more than 450 litres; and (v) be self draining, and have drain area of at least 0.100 m2 per 1.000 m3 of floodable volume; Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zonker 5,230 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 For a model a thin neoprene boot would be simple. This seals off the cylinder rod from the pivot mechanism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SoCalSlacker 8 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 The wet box concept has been well understood for quite some time and I imagine their solutions would not be too different from modern canting keel offshore yachts. The basic concept is a sealed box with a flexible boot around the hydraulic cylinder (not the shaft). As mentioned above for a model yacht a piece of neoprene would probably suffice. On offshore canting keeling boats one important detail is a vent above the waterline to release pressure from the water being pushed into the box, probably less of a concern on a boat where the wet box spends most of it's time out of the water. In the early days this was not always implemented and resulted in a few exploding wet boxes from the pressure build up from water being forced up into the box. Another advantage of the wet box is it gives another version of the old left handed screw driver with nippers being sent to bail out the wet box..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
accnick 1,735 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, SoCalSlacker said: Another advantage of the wet box is it gives another version of the old left handed screw driver with nippers being sent to bail out the wet box..... Heh, heh, heh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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