WANDERLUST 5 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Hi there! Seems the boat with the assyn is not the best way to be competitive in W/L. anyone has tried a Sim with a pool? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JL92S 426 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Never sailed a symmetric kite 105 but raced a symmetric rigged 122 and also raced against a 97 and 99 l and the setup works well. A 105 might roll a bit more but can’t see why it shouldn’t work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charis 15 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 We had a J-80 try it in Hawaii. In medium air (pre-planing) it may have paid off, but in general, juice was not worth the squeeze. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IMR 101 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 J105 is a dog, the deep mode rocked to weather sucks. I think you are on the right track and sym spinnaker with a j length pole will help the rating and let you sail ddw. Win win all around the 105 need like 40 knots tws to plane so it should just sail ddw Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wet Spreaders 306 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 You can sail a J105 DDW with the sails set up wing-on-wing. It takes a little practice and it's probably not stable enough to manage in any kind of seaway, but it works on SF Bay. We do it every time we jibe in heavy air - jibe the kite first, get the boat stable and then, in leisurely fashion, jibe the main. Less chance of a roundup in > 25kts breeze. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stinky 141 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 There's been a few J105's who've done Hawaii races, I think all of them used symmetrical kites. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wet Spreaders 306 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 7 hours ago, stinky said: There's been a few J105's who've done Hawaii races, I think all of them used symmetrical kites. It's been a mixture. Most of the boats I know of used their asym setup. I'm aware of one that rigged a symmetrical kite - probably there were others. I guess the decision depends on the rating hit you're going to get for adding the symmetrical option. At 78, a J105 can be competitive on point to point races whether mostly upwind, mostly downwind or a mixture, provided that the wind doesn't spend a lot of time < 8 kts or so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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JSoup 11 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 We sailed our J/105 to Hawaii with asymmetric kites and did pretty well. We’ve also been competitive in PHRF in Portland and the NW. J/105s have won Swiftsure overall least once, I think twice, all in class trim. There might be reason to convert to symmetrical kites, but I haven’t seen it. Eric Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bump-n-Grind 2,673 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Not a 105, but I did the Heineken Regatta in St Martin a coupe times on a j109 with a sym rig. He did it solely for the ratings boost. Frankly I think we'd have done better with the Asym. in an event like that with a lot of very reachy legs of courses it didn't help much. But we mauled a Bene 36.7 on one downwind leg in the round the island race. so for w/l racing, it may in fact be a good option. But before you go to all the hassle, maybe ya wanna try getting a sailmaker to come out with you and help you optimize your sailing to your existing inventory. Maybe if you do a better job of sailing YOUR angles and not trying to sail someone elses', you'll end up better off in the long run. in the meantime, search around on here for the standard greeting to newbs and at least make an effort to comply or have we all become too woke round heya? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WANDERLUST 5 Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 We have the new rating, and with sim spin configurarion won 15 sec per mile. lets ser this weekend... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Wet Spreaders 306 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 3 hours ago, WANDERLUST said: Kite seems to have very narrow shoulders. What area is this one? 89m2 is the standard asym - this looks smaller somehow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JSoup 11 Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 I was thinking the same thing. I was also thinking 15sec/mile credit was extremely generous, maybe because the kite is so small? I thought the intent was to be more competitive by going faster, but I guess gong slower with an even slower rating is also a viable solution. It will be interesting how this turns out, but with a 15sec/mile slower rating I think he’ll be happy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WANDERLUST 5 Posted May 29, 2021 Author Share Posted May 29, 2021 80 meters. config now is sim spin plus code zero Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WANDERLUST 5 Posted June 16, 2021 Author Share Posted June 16, 2021 We had two championships. First really light winds less than 6 knots and we were second overall. second championship 3 bullets in 12 knots of breeze. really happy performance. Really incredible in downwind Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bump-n-Grind 2,673 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 seems like a lot of hassle and money for a pickle dish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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