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On 9/17/2021 at 6:44 PM, IStream said:

Most subjects that I loved in school I did really well at. Thermodynamics was different. It was fascinating but I barely escaped with a C. 

My statistical thermodynamics final had 5 questions. On 2 questions, I listed every McDonald's menu item I could think of. I really had no idea how to handle them.  I wrote McDonald's job application on the front of the blue book, turned it in and started thinking McDonald's really was my future.  Somehow I got the other 3 questions all correct and managed a C+ thanks to the curve.

 

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6 hours ago, Cal20sailor said:

Newsflash, nobody uses the shit they learned in college.  You figure it out as you move along.

I worked with an REA at Hughes AirCraft (Responsible Engineering Authority) for system wiring. 1000s of interconnects... His degree was in.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Art:D

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24 minutes ago, PurpleOnion said:

My statistical thermodynamics final had 5 questions. On 2 questions, I listed every McDonald's menu item I could think of. I really had no idea how to handle them.  I wrote McDonald's job application on the front of the blue book, turned it in and started thinking McDonald's really was my future.  Somehow I got the other 3 questions all correct and managed a C+ thanks to the curve.

I had a FEA course with only 3 questions on the final. Each question = 20% of your mark for the year.

First question - No fucking clue

Second question - partial no fucking clue> maybe got 20% of it.

Third question - could partly answer that one.

We all walked out saying WTF and all passed the year - because we all failed so badly.

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31 minutes ago, Zonker said:

I had a FEA course with only 3 questions on the final. Each question = 20% of your mark for the year.

First question - No fucking clue

Second question - partial no fucking clue> maybe got 20% of it.

Third question - could partly answer that one.

We all walked out saying WTF and all passed the year - because we all failed so badly.

I really hated the curve as a standard.   I do understand it’s appeal at some level, but for many it was an academic kiss of death to work really hard to get a 92% and fail the class.    
 

life is hard and all that rot…. I think people get turned off by the curve being strictly applied, and get forced a different (and not always better) direction. 
 

In most schooling, it is not necessary to fail people all the time.   It’s not supposed to be a trial by elimination 

Use the curve where appropriate.   Just not everywhere.  

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54 minutes ago, warbird said:

I worked with an REA at Hughes AirCraft (Responsible Engineering Authority) for system wiring. 1000s of interconnects... His degree was in.....

Art:D

The idea of uni is to teach one how to think - it's not job training.

 

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2 minutes ago, Windward said:

I really hated the curve as a standard.   I do understand it’s appeal at some level, but for many it was an academic kiss of death to work really hard to get a 92% and fail the class.    
 

life is hard and all that rot…. I think people get turned off by the curve being strictly applied, and get forced a different (and not always better) direction. 
 

In most schooling, it is not necessary to fail people all the time.   It’s not supposed to be a trial by elimination 

Use the curve where appropriate.   Just not everywhere.  

When I entered architectural school, they announced that they planned to graduate 15 out of the 60 of us.  No curves need apply. I made it through my sophomore spring semester with a 0.96 GPA. 

It was easy sledding after that and we fooled them.  We graduated 17.  

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44 minutes ago, Zonker said:

I had a FEA course with only 3 questions on the final. Each question = 20% of your mark for the year.

First question - No fucking clue

Second question - partial no fucking clue> maybe got 20% of it.

Third question - could partly answer that one.

We all walked out saying WTF and all passed the year - because we all failed so badly.

I got a 9 out of 100 on an obviously too advanced for me fluids midterm....and it was a "C".

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1 hour ago, Left Shift said:

Monkey bars!  I had three skull fractures before I was 10.  One of them was from playing on that thing over asphalt. 

Fortunately I was a fast healer, but barbers love my head.  

My dad used to joke that he belonged to the coffee club at the ER when I was little.

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Just now, RedTuna said:

My dad used to joke that he belonged to the coffee club at the ER when I was little.

I was a target for fate. Riding my bike to school, get T-boned by a tow truck. That sort of thing. My right leg looks like a topo map of the Rockies.

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13 minutes ago, RedTuna said:

You guys were graded on a curve in engineering classes?

 

Half-Credit.jpg

Did you get your full fee?  Did you get an add services contract for the forensic analysis and did your E&O insurance cover the claims?

Then full credit and a guest lecture spot.

 

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2 hours ago, warbird said:

I worked with an REA at Hughes AirCraft (Responsible Engineering Authority) for system wiring. 1000s of interconnects... His degree was in.....

Art:D

Was that like what is now a Designated Engineering Representative?  Scary as can be, if so.

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2 hours ago, Zonker said:

I had a FEA course with only 3 questions on the final. Each question = 20% of your mark for the year.

First question - No fucking clue

Second question - partial no fucking clue> maybe got 20% of it.

Third question - could partly answer that one.

We all walked out saying WTF and all passed the year - because we all failed so badly.

I taught HS math after 30 yrs of engineering.  Word problems were the worst...for them.  I gave them wordy problems and at the end explained just initial for full credit, half got it.

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On 9/17/2021 at 10:28 AM, Rasputin22 said:

I often had to take my daughter into my cabinet shop when we couldn't get a sitter. She would sit very satisfied in her little carry seat strapped in and I found that if I sat her on the long outfeed table behind my big table saw the vibration and sound of the saw running put her right to sleep. Same with the outboard on the dinghy when returning to our Passport 40 home.

When my kid was 3 or so we did a family trip to Hawaii's big island. My wife and I wanted to take a helicopter tour of the volcanos and water falls, and we had nowhere to stash the kid, so we brought him along. He initially thought we were there to see helicopters, so he was super excited when we went close to one. Then he was even more excited to sit in one - particularly since the "fair" way to deal with the seat next to the pilot was to put him in it while my wife and I sat in the back. He squealed with excitement when the engine started and we took off. Within 5 minutes he was sound asleep and missed the whole thing.

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On 9/18/2021 at 11:18 AM, Bump-n-Grind said:

Stop and Shop isn't selling bottles of Smart Water for 17.5 cents/ea. They're selling somebody else rebottled, possibly filtered tapwater.     Penn and Teller did a great bit on bottled water on their "Bullshit" show a few years ago. 

 

Says it's "Acadia spring water" from "Protected springs" in various locations.   Dunno if that's BS, but it tastes better than the well water at work and at home, and no chlorine taste whatsoever.

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22 hours ago, Windward said:

I really hated the curve as a standard.   I do understand it’s appeal at some level, but for many it was an academic kiss of death to work really hard to get a 92% and fail the class.    
 

life is hard and all that rot…. I think people get turned off by the curve being strictly applied, and get forced a different (and not always better) direction. 
 

In most schooling, it is not necessary to fail people all the time.   It’s not supposed to be a trial by elimination 

Use the curve where appropriate.   Just not everywhere.  

I had a vicious and wonderful physics teacher in highschool. He graded on a curve.  I was a 50% student. 

 

 

 

 

B+ :lol:

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21 hours ago, RedTuna said:

Was that like what is now a Designated Engineering Representative?  Scary as can be, if so.

His responsibility was all the cabling in 6 bays (think tall refrigerator) of cabling connecting computer to test equipment, signal sources (waveform generators, X-band generators etc) Spectrum analyzer,  o scopes,, Multimeters,  waveform analyzer,  and units under test.

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The educational question is whether we are trying to determine competence (for real life) or class ranking (for an award).  Decades ago this was part of my day job.  Should medical students have to demonstrate meaningful competence in a subject, or are you OK if your physician only knew 45% but the rest of the class was no better?

Grading on a curve is dysfunctional for determining competence, i.e. where actual performance is needed for public safety.  It works both ways.  Took a biochemistry grad class where we all did well because who else takes graduate science classes besides people who want to and are pretty good at it.  A 93/100 score was essentially a C-.  Needed  a 98 for an A.  Students who knew the material were punished :mellow:

OTOH, grading a philosophy class on a curve makes a bit more sense.

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52 minutes ago, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

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4 hours ago, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

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Gallows humor for sure!!  :lol:

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On 9/18/2021 at 8:56 PM, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

well that is a wattaburger..

 

No one really knows...  Late night texas crap, just like del taco or jack in the box...  HAd one in my college town.  Late night...  4 burgers and a lb o fries.  all for 5 bucks...  :)

 

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On 9/19/2021 at 6:54 AM, Wet Spreaders said:

When my kid was 3 or so we did a family trip to Hawaii's big island. My wife and I wanted to take a helicopter tour of the volcanos and water falls, and we had nowhere to stash the kid, so we brought him along. He initially thought we were there to see helicopters, so he was super excited when we went close to one. Then he was even more excited to sit in one - particularly since the "fair" way to deal with the seat next to the pilot was to put him in it while my wife and I sat in the back. He squealed with excitement when the engine started and we took off. Within 5 minutes he was sound asleep and missed the whole thing.

LOL, Mine did the cenote thing in mexico about that age.  He could basically swim w me, hold onto my back while diving etc...  Ended up being the puking kid in the back of the bus on the ride home..  Mexico, Hot tourist bus..  Puking 3 YO.....  wet towels and basically beach stuff..  

Better to have the sleeping kid than the puking one...   Just sayin....  

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45 minutes ago, bored broker said:

There are plenty of guys here that are well practiced in choking the chicken.

That's only over in PA...

 

 

(Poultry Anarchy)

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On 9/18/2021 at 8:30 PM, bridhb said:

I got a 9 out of 100 on an obviously too advanced for me fluids midterm....and it was a "C".

One of the hardest courses I took was an Intermediate Fluid Mechanics class taught by the Dean of Engineering.  It was a mix of undergrad and grad students.  There was not a single "math" problem on any exam. Imagine only being able to discuss deriving the Navier-Stokes equations and their simultaneous solution.  Without writing them down.  In 50 minutes.  It got worse from there.

Found a Navier-Stokes t-shirt among the engineering tees on Amazon a few years ago.  Bought it just to remember the surviving the pain.

 

 

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59 minutes ago, RedTuna said:

One of the hardest courses I took was an Intermediate Fluid Mechanics class taught by the Dean of Engineering.  It was a mix of undergrad and grad students.  There was not a single "math" problem on any exam. Imagine only being able to discuss deriving the Navier-Stokes equations and their simultaneous solution.  Without writing them down.  In 50 minutes.  It got worse from there.

Found a Navier-Stokes t-shirt among the engineering tees on Amazon a few years ago.  Bought it just to remember the surviving the pain.

 

 

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Not sure I understood the Wikipedia article

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1 hour ago, Snaggletooth said:

Thisse oune ist goode to............                                 :)

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Did she have breast enhancement?  Some pics she looks flat, like that, but some show a bit of a bust....

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3 hours ago, Snaggletooth said:

:)

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Almost, Snags…similar clip but there’s something missing, something on her mind…

(Damn I can’t get the one I have to work when posted here. Ah well.)

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1 hour ago, peragrin said:

She is a small b cup and sports bras do her no favors.  

Google image search gives Before/After images. I did not peruse them much, seems she has facial "enhancements"  , also,  I am not into the preying mantis thing.

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