Tyson0317 0 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 I am putting new bottom paint on my 1989 J/35. A couple of years ago a professional boatyard charged me to do this job, and completely screwed it up. He can clearly see that in the areas where they had the supporting pads, the paint failed utterly. Similar thing happened on my keel. Pettit Paints He's telling me that I need to take off everything down to gel coat in the affected areas. For some reason I was expecting it to be white. But there is red layer underneath the black paint and the gray primer. I am pretty sure that it is my gel coat, but for some reason the color gives me doubt. I noticed before that in places where my toe rail shackles smacked against the hull, under the white paint was red. I always assumed that the boat was simply painted right in the past, but now biting into this with a 60 grid sand pad it seems thicker than paint... So that's the gel coat, right?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Borracho 2,612 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Why not red gelcoat? Could be. Likely need barrier job after such sanding, right? Those failures at the pads are what happens when cheap-ass low-bid hack yards do the bottom job. Usually not enough cure time ... especially in cool west coast climates. The extra lay days for proper cure are recouped in greatly extended time between hauls. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quickstep192 91 Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Seems like J-Boats should be able to tell from your HIN what color the boat was originally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyson0317 0 Posted June 26, 2021 Author Share Posted June 26, 2021 Jboats doesn't answer emails for owners of older boats. I attempted to contact them three times when I first got the boat, stating that I had a few general questions. They never answered. I then sent an email from a different address to the same email address stating that I was interested in a new boat I got a reply within minutes. They just don't give a damn. Since I am planning to redo the sides above the water line as well, I hit that with a sander and got the same red. I am 99% convinced now that my boat was originally red. I guess it makes sense! If you scrape something bad enough it's much easier to spot that way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyson0317 0 Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 Confirmed: the red is indeed the color of my gel coat. Kinda cool! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lartaunt 60 Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 20 hours ago, Tyson0317 said: Jboats doesn't answer emails for owners of older boats. I attempted to contact them three times when I first got the boat, stating that I had a few general questions. They never answered. I then sent an email from a different address to the same email address stating that I was interested in a new boat I got a reply within minutes. They just don't give a damn. Since I am planning to redo the sides above the water line as well, I hit that with a sander and got the same red. I am 99% convinced now that my boat was originally red. I guess it makes sense! If you scrape something bad enough it's much easier to spot that way. Just call them. Very helpful on the phone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squalamax 75 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 On 6/27/2021 at 1:35 PM, lartaunt said: Just call them. Very helpful on the phone. On 6/26/2021 at 4:43 PM, Tyson0317 said: Jboats doesn't answer emails for owners of older boats. I attempted to contact them three times when I first got the boat, stating that I had a few general questions. They never answered. I then sent an email from a different address to the same email address stating that I was interested in a new boat I got a reply within minutes. They just don't give a damn. Since I am planning to redo the sides above the water line as well, I hit that with a sander and got the same red. I am 99% convinced now that my boat was originally red. I guess it makes sense! If you scrape something bad enough it's much easier to spot that way. Not my experience at all with the Johnstones. I needed a lines drawing for my 38 year old J29 and they emailed it right over.(this was a few years ago) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slick470 240 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Squalamax said: Not my experience at all with the Johnstones. I needed a lines drawing for my 38 year old J29 and they emailed it right over.(this was a few years ago) Likewise, and also a few years back. I had a few questions on the J36 and after a couple emails back and forth with someone they put me in touch with Alan Johnstone, who did his best to answer my questions and he made sure they sent me scans of the brochures they had. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gouvernail 3,934 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 The J35 in Austin … Lake Travis… in the mid 1980s was red Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shorthanded 740 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 We had a red one on Lake Michigan in the early to mid 2000’s. Sail number 35036. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riracer 0 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I had a red gelcoat 1983 J22. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ROADKILL666 532 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 They painted it so R/C can’t nail them for being over early Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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