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I tweaked something in my back playing soccer last night. 3 Aleve later and I'm still in agony. Internet says "stretch", but that all well and good when you can get to the floor with some expectation of being able to get back up again at some point.

I'm trying to decide whether to tough it out and see what happens for a day or two, or go get professional help now. And if help, what? Primary Care will just say "take more Aleve", and wait a few days. The Chiro will do some poking and prodding, or twist me into a pretzel at the risk of an unintended bowl movement. 

What's worked for you all?

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Funny, just heard from a friend with chronic back pain and discouraged as nothing was helping. Decided to visit a fitness center and was about to leave when she said have you seen this? It may be called a hydro massage or something similar - like a waterbed with jets going up and down your back.  Said was first time was pain free in months.  They offered a free trial so he took an hours worth.

 

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Do the stretches. Nice to have a massage table. First the quadriceps.

Lay on your belly and have a friend alongside. Raise your calf to about past vertical then have your friend offer resistance while you push your foot back towards the surface you're laying on. Push as hard as you can. It's a balancing act between you and your friend.

After about ten seconds, stop pushing and have the friend slowly compress your calf back towards your butt. You'll know when it becomes too much, so communicate. Do three (or more) reps for each leg.

Hamstrings- Roll over onto your back and raise a leg, keeping the knee as locked as possible. Push against your friend's resistance for ten seconds, then allow them to compress your leg towards your face. Knee kept as locked as possible, friend can help by keeping a hand on your kneecap.

Works for me.

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Ice for the first 48 hours than heat and a couple of days to rest up and then start on something like this

https://www.spine-health.com/wellness/exercise/stretching-back-pain-relief

Or, see if your MD will give you a referral to a physical therapy.

I had a nagging lower back issue where sitting for any length of time became a problem.  Got a PT referral and they showed me a bunch of exercises and stretching, haven't had the problem since.

 

 

 

 

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I’ve gone to the ER a couple of times for this. Each time got an injection for pain and an injection of some kind of steroid. Huge relief.  Course I was in such pain the only thing that kept the pain down a bit was to keep moving. Couldn’t sit or lay down to sleep. Was like a land shark. And how long can you keep that up?  

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Yoga.  

I had back problems about 10 years ago.  Doc said nothing wrong, just take drugs.  I didn't want that.  

Someone suggested yoga and I laughed.  Yeah, right.  

But I tried it.  Signed up for a course called "yoga for a healthy back" offered at the local high school.  It was a bunch of middle-aged dudes with sore backs (like me).  

IT WORKED!   Back problem gone.   It was really just learning how to stretch your back (not fancy meditate-and-say-ommm-focus-on-your-chakra yoga).  

So long as I regularly stretch and exercise I have zero back problems.   Keeping a good posture is also very important. 

Good luck.  

And be careful with Aleve and similar (Naproxen).  They are nephro-toxic (can damage your kidneys).  

 

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My wife calls it the "old man" walk. When it flares up I look like Quasimodo...

Flares up on occasion, been at bay for years.(knock on wood) Sounds like the spasm as your body tries to protect your spine. 

 

When acute, you can alternate Tylenol and Advil every 2 hours. They impact different organs (kidney vs liver) so you can alternate them.  Probably too late for ice, but I had this Jeep Grand Cherokee that had really hot heated seats. Would go and sit in that for awhile and things would loosen up.

A steroid injection(I didn't need for that, but for shoulder once) if OTC and heat aren't enough - and that's worth a tip to the ER at 2:00am if you need it.

Longer term, core strength and stretching. I like my balance board and my standing desk, BIL likes his yoga ball/low desk.  I never got any relief from chiro, but I did find relief with acupuncture. Something about it stimulating blood flow from the little needle pricks. There's some real literature to back it up as well.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, ROADKILL666 said:

I had something similar and ended up with 2 herniated disc’s.The only thing that worked was Norco 10/325 and zanaflex 4 mg.Also lots of time.It sucks but you just have to wait.

that's a whole nuther level of bad....

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Thanks for the advice. 

I had chronic back issues that started 15 years ago and gradually got worse until I decided to get help. I did a scan (spinal stenosis), physio and eventually core strengthening twice a week with a personal trainer. My back has been functionally cured and pain free for at least the last 3 years. Hence the return to soccer and yardwork.

It was one unfortunate twist last night trying to hold the ball in the corner to run out time (4-3 lead). I took (and, to be fair, dished out) a couple of good body checks during the game, so maybe something happened then too. Anyhow, it's now acute back pain, not chronic, and so I have an unfamiliar challenge to deal with.  I appreciate all of the advice.

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6 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

that's a whole nuther level of bad....

Yes but it worked for me.Still hurts every now and then just have to be careful.Not on them anymore.Now just heat and 800 mg ibuprofen 

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5 minutes ago, Wet Spreaders said:

Thanks for the advice. 

I had chronic back issues that started 15 years ago and gradually got worse until I decided to get help. I did a scan (spinal stenosis), physio and eventually core strengthening twice a week with a personal trainer. My back has been functionally cured and pain free for at least the last 3 years. Hence the return to soccer and yardwork.

It was one unfortunate twist last night trying to hold the ball in the corner to run out time (4-3 lead). I took (and, to be fair, dished out) a couple of good body checks during the game, so maybe something happened then too. Anyhow, it's now acute back pain, not chronic, and so I have an unfamiliar challenge to deal with.  I appreciate all of the advice.

Probably worth a check to see if you damaged a disc

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2 hours ago, Wet Spreaders said:

I tweaked something in my back playing soccer last night. 3 Aleve later and I'm still in agony. Internet says "stretch", but that all well and good when you can get to the floor with some expectation of being able to get back up again at some point.

I'm trying to decide whether to tough it out and see what happens for a day or two, or go get professional help now. And if help, what? Primary Care will just say "take more Aleve", and wait a few days. The Chiro will do some poking and prodding, or twist me into a pretzel at the risk of an unintended bowl movement. 

What's worked for you all?

I had back problems for years.  Did the whole gamut from chiropractors to yoga to stretching.  Finally I went to an orthopedic surgeon.  He asked me if I wanted more bandaids or if I wanted to get rid of the problem.  I told him the latter.  

"I'm going to write you a prescription to back school," he said.  I thought he was kidding.  He wasn't.  Once a week for three months I went to back school.  There I learned the mechanics of the back.  What to do and what not to do.  If you bend forward for any length of time, bend backward for 20 or so seconds to realign the discs.  Think of your back as stacked blocks and make sure they are sitting one on top of the other, with your head balanced on top.  Stuff like that.  That was about 30 years ago and the only time I've had problems is when I forget the rules.

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2 hours ago, d'ranger said:

Funny, just heard from a friend with chronic back pain and discouraged as nothing was helping. Decided to visit a fitness center and was about to leave when she said have you seen this? It may be called a hydro massage or something similar - like a waterbed with jets going up and down your back.  Said was first time was pain free in months.  They offered a free trial so he took an hours worth.

 

those things are awesome. kinda hard to find. 

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10 minutes ago, Jules said:

I had back problems for years.  Did the whole gamut from chiropractors to yoga to stretching.  Finally I went to an orthopedic surgeon.  He asked me if I wanted more bandaids or if I wanted to get rid of the problem.  I told him the latter.  

"I'm going to write you a prescription to back school," he said.  I thought he was kidding.  He wasn't.  Once a week for three months I went to back school.  There I learned the mechanics of the back.  What to do and what not to do.  If you bend forward for any length of time, bend backward for 20 or so seconds to realign the discs.  Think of your back as stacked blocks and make sure they are sitting one on top of the other, with your head balanced on top.  Stuff like that.  That was about 30 years ago and the only time I've had problems is when I forget the rules.

Weak core and tight mussels is a large contributor to back problems.   Like you, when I blow off playing by the rules for any length of time, I can feel it. 

 

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Not much to add beyond doing planks. google or youtube some examples.  I started doing them 4 years ago and have not had a flare up since then despite the best efforts of children who set out to injure me in various ways.  Pilates hasn't been mentioned, but it's probably better than yoga.  The benefit of planks are they can be done quickly, at home, and without the need for instructor. The form is straight forward.  worst case you would need a mirror, but it's easy to get right and they strengthen the abs along with the back so you don't introduce strain.  My limited experience with yoga and pilates is - like most things - it comes down to the instructor.  Some are awesome, attentive, understand the body, and how the exercises work.  Some aren't.

As for the near term pain, I don't know of much beyond the non-drug options and exercises listed above. If you can find a good accupuncturist, they can work wonders.  The problem is finding one.  In NYC or other areas with a decent Chinatown can help, but you may need a guide/translator.  The difference between the guy on the upper west side who took insurance and the woman who operated out of a small apartment in Chinatown and only took cash was night and day.

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I have a spasm that acts up periodically from an old injury.  I saw a massage therapist a few years ago after it was flaring up.  She had me roll on a 6" diameter, 36" long foam roller.  It uses your body weight to get things moving around.  One of my better $20 purchases! 1507073_ecommfullsize.jpg

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I know it sounds bogus, but the adultering whore ex wife was going to acupuncture school and they needed pin cushions.  She convinced me to volunteer as I have had sort of chronic back problems since I had to stand in line for drop / add in college at 17 years old.  I have a bit of a needle phobia and didn't believe in the whole "Qui" thing.  I rode my motorcycle over to the school, about 80 miles away, and could not stand up straight when I got there.  One of her class mates stuck about 30 needles in me all over the place and 30 minutes later I felt great.  I found if I got a "treatment" about every month, the bulk of the pain and "hunchback" would stay away.

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4 hours ago, Wet Spreaders said:

I tweaked something in my back playing soccer last night. 3 Aleve later and I'm still in agony. Internet says "stretch", but that all well and good when you can get to the floor with some expectation of being able to get back up again at some point.

I'm trying to decide whether to tough it out and see what happens for a day or two, or go get professional help now. And if help, what? Primary Care will just say "take more Aleve", and wait a few days. The Chiro will do some poking and prodding, or twist me into a pretzel at the risk of an unintended bowl movement. 

What's worked for you all?

 i tweaked my back sailing 5 weeks ago. i thought no worries a bit of physio and stretching will fix this . 4 weeks latter still couldnt walk properly so went for ct scan. 4 bulging discs and a severe spinal canal stenosis latter now will have me out of work for who knows how long. booked in for a specialist in 2 weeks time. so go get it check by a professional and not doctor google 

 

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Lower back pain that started yesterday is acute pain and different from chronic pain. Rest, non steroidal meds (ibuprofen, naproxen), gentle stretching, and avoidance of aggravating activity are good initial treatments. It may take a couple days to feel improvement.  Gradually add exercise when tolerable. Here’s a simple set.

https://www.iowaclinic.com/webres/File/excercises-healthy-back.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

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I just spent 30 mins with my back flat on the rug and my calves on a bench. I could tell it was going to work right away - somehow, that position allows all of the muscles to just relax and settle down. Afterwards I was able to do some figure 4 stretches. I could not manage any twists, but I'm feeling a lot better. Good suggestion, Luminary!

 

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Decades of this sort of crap. High dose of voltaren. At least 100mg, often 200, then bed. Usually all gone in the morning. You do need to only use this max every couple of months as voltaren can be bad if you do too much. 

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34 minutes ago, Wet Spreaders said:

I just spent 30 mins with my back flat on the rug and my calves on a bench. I could tell it was going to work right away - somehow, that position allows all of the muscles to just relax and settle down. Afterwards I was able to do some figure 4 stretches. I could not manage any twists, but I'm feeling a lot better. Good suggestion, Luminary!

 

Thanks. Up until recently, my partner was a stretch therapist. Your injury sounds like events I had. This is what I think helped me most to get back into kiting/running/sailing

https://stretchtherapy.net/

 

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5 hours ago, Wet Spreaders said:

It was one unfortunate twist last night trying to hold the ball in the corner to run out time (4-3 lead). I took (and, to be fair, dished out) a couple of good body checks during the game, so maybe something happened then too. Anyhow, it's now acute back pain, not chronic, and so I have an unfamiliar challenge to deal with.  I appreciate all of the advice.

What was the pitch? Grass, turf, something else?

Coulda started with what was underfoot 

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DO NOT POUND ALEVE!!!!

 I did that on my drs recommendation after I thought I'd "tweaked" my back.

Aleve gave me bleeding ulcers in my esophagus and stomach. I had as it turns out, crushed a vertebra. Completely. totally gone, just mush and dust.

 I'm now 1" shorter than I was 10  months ago. It still hurts, but not like it did before surgery.

 But the vomiting blood and bloody diarrhea from the Aleve was really what sent me to the hospital. I thought that it was just another bad back ouch, that I've had over 50 years of lifting things like a stupid person.

Drs don't really know any more than you do about what's going on in your body, they just have the license to prescribe narcotics.

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45 minutes ago, mgs said:

What was the pitch? Grass, turf, something else?

Coulda started with what was underfoot 

Indoor soccer on that modern thick turf with plastic strand grass ballasted with crumbled up rubber. It's all good fun until someone gets checked into the plexiglass boards held up by 3" square section steel posts epoxied into the concrete floor. No give whatsoever.  :) 

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47 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said:

DO NOT POUND ALEVE!!!!

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Agreed. But in extremis I think it's OK to take a decent dose, then cut back as soon as possible. Vets use 10mg/kg, so I'd probably be OK with 900mg. I took 660mg last night (of 12 hour release type), 440mg this morning and 220mg about an hour ago. With luck and some of the stretches folks mentioned, I'll be good with 0mg and a back brace tomorrow morning.

I think the folks who are really in long term crippling pain are the unfortunate people who just can't get through their days without NSAIDs. That's when the puking up blood, fucked up kidneys and compromised liver function cuts in to add to their troubles...

BTW - if I'm totally fucking wrong about the dose profile above being relatively benign, I'd like to know...

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19 minutes ago, Wet Spreaders said:

Agreed. But in extremis I think it's OK to take a decent dose, then cut back as soon as possible. Vets use 10mg/kg, so I'd probably be OK with 900mg. I took 660mg last night (of 12 hour release type), 440mg this morning and 220mg about an hour ago. With luck and some of the stretches folks mentioned, I'll be good with 0mg and a back brace tomorrow morning.

I think the folks who are really in long term crippling pain are the unfortunate people who just can't get through their days without NSAIDs. That's when the puking up blood, fucked up kidneys and compromised liver function cuts in to add to their troubles...

BTW - if I'm totally fucking wrong about the dose profile above being relatively benign, I'd like to know...

in aus they are 220mg . 1 tablet for 8-12 hours and no more than 3 in 24 hours. to be taken with food

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45 minutes ago, Wet Spreaders said:

Indoor soccer on that modern thick turf with plastic strand grass ballasted with crumbled up rubber. It's all good fun until someone gets checked into the plexiglass boards held up by 3" square section steel posts epoxied into the concrete floor. No give whatsoever.  :) 

Hockey on grass. Love it. 

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8 hours ago, Wet Spreaders said:

Thanks for the advice. 

I had chronic back issues that started 15 years ago and gradually got worse until I decided to get help. I did a scan (spinal stenosis), physio and eventually core strengthening twice a week with a personal trainer. My back has been functionally cured and pain free for at least the last 3 years. Hence the return to soccer and yardwork.

It was one unfortunate twist last night trying to hold the ball in the corner to run out time (4-3 lead). I took (and, to be fair, dished out) a couple of good body checks during the game, so maybe something happened then too. Anyhow, it's now acute back pain, not chronic, and so I have an unfamiliar challenge to deal with.  I appreciate all of the advice.

do what you've been doing and get the muscles to relax...  apply cold to get the swelling down for the first day or so...  then  soak in a hot tub / bath...    apply heat to get the muscle to release...    slowly find ways to stretch said muscles...  then when you able to move somewhat , go get it looked at to make sure there aren't other issues,    herniated disk,  compressed disk,  or nerve bundles being pinched...    if major issues have been ruled out , get to physical / massage therapy ...  i recommend a good thai massage

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40 years ago I slid into a base playing Baseball.. Unfortunately instead of a sand bag marking the base, it had been filled with  dry concrete mix, and had set into the hollow made by our previous games... That did my back in for several weeks, as it was, going to the RAF Doc ,  I got given a weeks light duties and told to go back to work now...

Then about 15 years ago I was helping move a 19ft open keelboat, even with it's keel removed it was still heavy and the back went again.

It's never going to get better and I have to wear a back belt for support doing anything that might involve lifting or bending. 

Heat I find helps,  and at the moment after work, going to sit in the car with the sun having heated the car seats up, it's a great relief at the end of the working day. Also lying flat on the floor helps, though I need a pillow for the neck.. but that's another injury..

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17 hours ago, Wet Spreaders said:

Agreed. But in extremis I think it's OK to take a decent dose, then cut back as soon as possible. Vets use 10mg/kg, so I'd probably be OK with 900mg. I took 660mg last night (of 12 hour release type), 440mg this morning and 220mg about an hour ago. With luck and some of the stretches folks mentioned, I'll be good with 0mg and a back brace tomorrow morning.

I think the folks who are really in long term crippling pain are the unfortunate people who just can't get through their days without NSAIDs. That's when the puking up blood, fucked up kidneys and compromised liver function cuts in to add to their troubles...

BTW - if I'm totally fucking wrong about the dose profile above being relatively benign, I'd like to know...

For you back pain, get a Rx for Mobic... Meloxicam.  Do the 7.5 mg to start, then to 15 mg (2 but only once a day) if that doesn't take the edge off.

As for the naproxen I would recommend the ones with esomeprazole - Vimovo to keep from burning a hole in your gut. 

 

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22 hours ago, Wet Spreaders said:

Agreed. But in extremis I think it's OK to take a decent dose, then cut back as soon as possible. Vets use 10mg/kg, so I'd probably be OK with 900mg. I took 660mg last night (of 12 hour release type), 440mg this morning and 220mg about an hour ago. With luck and some of the stretches folks mentioned, I'll be good with 0mg and a back brace tomorrow morning.

I think the folks who are really in long term crippling pain are the unfortunate people who just can't get through their days without NSAIDs. That's when the puking up blood, fucked up kidneys and compromised liver function cuts in to add to their troubles...

BTW - if I'm totally fucking wrong about the dose profile above being relatively benign, I'd like to know...

NSAIDS are dangerous for people with Cardiovascular issues. Just a word of caution.  

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2 minutes ago, 130lights said:

NSAIDS are dangerous for people with Cardiovascular issues. Just a word of caution.  

Also dangerous for people who listen to their Drs, who haven't bothered to look at their charts.

My Dr. nearly killed me by prescribing NSAIDS for me for back pain which he had never even examined. I ended up in the ER not for my crushed spine so much as my bleeding ulcers. (I've never had an ulcer,or even acid reflux until last November)

Never trust your Dr. w/o thinking long and hard about what they say.

 

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1 minute ago, Mrleft8 said:

Also dangerous for people who listen to their Drs, who haven't bothered to look at their charts.

My Dr. nearly killed me by prescribing NSAIDS for me for back pain which he had never even examined. I ended up in the ER not for my crushed spine so much as my bleeding ulcers. (I've never had an ulcer,or even acid reflux until last November)

Never trust your Dr. w/o thinking long and hard about what they say.

 

Yep! You have to do research on your own to confirm anything you are told. And I have a medical professional in my family, so that helps. I will never take NSAIDS. Was prescribed them for an ankle sprain by a PA in a small ED,  even after informing them of Cardio history…just tossed them out. I could write a book on my medical adventures.  

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10 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said:

Also dangerous for people who listen to their Drs, who haven't bothered to look at their charts.

My Dr. nearly killed me by prescribing NSAIDS for me for back pain which he had never even examined. I ended up in the ER not for my crushed spine so much as my bleeding ulcers. (I've never had an ulcer,or even acid reflux until last November)

Never trust your Dr. w/o thinking long and hard about what they say.

 

Sorta……….but it really is important to be an active participant in your health care.  Unfortunately that means a little research…….most people just do whatever they are told or get their “expertise” on FaceBook. I have and have had some very significant medical issues. I research enough to have a coherent conversation with my doctors. At the end I choose but I almost always wind up aligned with their recommendations. Not always….but most often. It takes effort. 

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1 minute ago, Point Break said:

Sorta……….but it really is important to be an active participant in your health care.  Unfortunately that means a little research…….most people just do whatever they are told or get their “expertise” on FaceBook. I have and have had some very significant medical issues. I research enough to have a coherent conversation with my doctors. At the end I choose but I almost always wind up aligned with their recommendations. Not always….but most often. It takes effort. 

You do know there's a huge spider on the back of your head right now, don't you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Point Break said:

Sorta……….but it really is important to be an active participant in your health care.  Unfortunately that means a little research…….most people just do whatever they are told or get their “expertise” on FaceBook. I have and have had some very significant medical issues. I research enough to have a coherent conversation with my doctors. At the end I choose but I almost always wind up aligned with their recommendations. Not always….but most often. It takes effort. 

Yes indeed. You need to partner with your docs, and if you don’t have that relationship with him/her, then you need to get a different doc.  You’re in charge of your health.  I’ve worked in healthcare for 30+ years, and when you work in a hospital, your chances of getting top notch care improve greatly. I too have/had significant issues, but still kickin.  Never used Dr. Facebook….medical journals, yes.

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2 minutes ago, 130lights said:

Yes indeed. You need to partner with your docs, and if you don’t have that relationship with him/her, then you need to get a different doc.  You’re in charge of your health.  I’ve worked in healthcare for 30+ years, and when you work in a hospital, your chances of getting top notch care improve greatly. I too have/had significant issues, but still kickin.  Never used Dr. Facebook….medical journals, yes.

I agree, but.... BUT.... I'm paying these people to do a job, not just show up for the appointment 30 minutes late.

 When a person came to me to have a piece of furniture, or cabinetry, or something other designed and built, I asked what they wanted, not that they do the research, learn which wood would be appropriate, or how to build it.

 I shouldn't have to instruct the Dr. on what to look for when I tell him my back hurts, and what I thought might be the cause of the back hurting.

 You want a dining table that seats 6-8 people. The rest of your furniture is Hepplewhite, but you want something a little more modern, but not so modern that it'll clash.

 So I design a set of 4 major pieces and a set of 8 chairs, all of which compliment the rest of your Hepplewhite furniture, but are distinctly yours. You agree, and I get paid a small advance, and a few months later you have a new Cherry and Maple dining room set. I get paid the rest of my money, and we're all happy. A few years later your hormone raging daughter thrashes one of the chairs in a fit of..... Who knows what.

 I come and pick it up, fix it, and return it. Life time guarantee....

Seems like today, the second you leave the exam room, the Dr. absolves him/herself of all responsibility.

 

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38 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said:

 

Seems like today, the second you leave the exam room, the Dr. absolves him/herself of all responsibility.

 

I’ve not experienced that with docs I have an ongoing relationship with. And no, you shouldn’t need to instruct a doc on what to look for…that’s get a new doctor time. 

And the late issue, I’ve experienced all types. A neurologist that runs on time or takes me early, neurosurgeon that was typically half hour behind, and the cardiologist that can run behind if a patient has an issue that takes longer, but, I’ve also been that patient that took longer. I’m beyond getting upset if a doc runs behind. Life is too damn short to get upset about things I can’t change. ( I mellowed out after a couple near-death experiences.)

And there are people that blindly do whatever their doc tells them without questioning anything…that’s a big mistake IMO.

 

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Many people do not believe in chiropractics, but it has done wonders for me and SWMBO over the years.  I have not needed one for a long time, but the Missus goes every week or two.  Also, when I had Guillian-Barre, a psychologist acquaintance was learning acupuncture and tried that on me for the chronic neuropathic pain.  Don't recall if it helped much, but it was 20 years ago now.  One time he was at the house and the Missus face was blown up with allergies such that she looked nearly like a mongoloid.  He put a bunch of pins all over her face and the swelling went away for days afterwards....    No harm in trying alternative medicines, some really work. 

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1 hour ago, billy backstay said:

Many people do not believe in chiropractics, but it has done wonders for me and SWMBO over the years.  I have not needed one for a long time, but the Missus goes every week or two.  

Chiro is a valid choice, do not discount it because of preconceived notions.

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2 hours ago, warbird said:

Chiro is a valid choice, do not discount it because of preconceived notions.

but you better make sure you know what's going on in your back before you get a chiro manipulating you...     I believe in chiro's but i'm moving away from neck manipulations though..

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4 minutes ago, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

but you better make sure you know what's going on in your back before you get a chiro manipulating you...     I believe in chiro's but i'm moving away from neck manipulations though..

Buddy had a neck manipulation, created a small artery tear, pressure on the spinal cord created paralysis. Could have been fatal but was caught early, within an hour of leaving the Chiro. He's fully recovered. Doesn't go to chiro anymore.

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19 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

Buddy had a neck manipulation, created a small artery tear, pressure on the spinal cord created paralysis. Could have been fatal but was caught early, within an hour of leaving the Chiro. He's fully recovered. Doesn't go to chiro anymore.

True dat! Any good neurologist/neurosurgeon will tell you that. Don’t let them manipulate your cervical spine.

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Different back problems require different remedies.

I originally blew my back up 30 years ago trying to hoist a Hobie 21 mast with nobody on the forestay& extension line helping. Something clicked and it was never right.  I lived with it.

Got worse over time mostly from crashing and burning doing giant slalom ski racing.

A highly stressful job with 12-14 hr/day in a chair did not help as my core got soft.

 

Used to have 2 therapists tag teaming trying to loosen muscles hell bent on not letting me do anything to the point their hands were worn out after each appointment.   Then they put me onto a table where I was strapped down and this machine basically kept trying to tear my head off using hydraulics. Scared me so much I only got worse.  

I got to the point I was popping Oxycontin with triples of mt gay rum day and night, do not remember shit for those 2 years,  and could give a shit if I lived never mind the kidney and liver damage.  I was spiraling downward fast.  Sometimes a nerve would trigger spasms causing my back muscles so smash the disks together over and over and there was nothing I could do but scream as my wife freaked out.  Not a good time..

Then I found someone who had their shit together.   MRI showed I had so much crap (basically broken off pieces of bone and cartilage) between 4 disks irritating them all the time, nothing short of a operation to remove all the crap was going to help as the disks were constantly swollen and angry.  My surgeon who was the head of neurosurgery at Lahey Clinic had the same sailboat as I and he took good care of me.  I felt 20 years younger 2 days after the operation.  I would have been dead by now if not for him.

 

So sometimes a bit of Aleve or ibuprofen will do the job.  It is a good place to start.

If that does not work, I highly recommend back exercise books by Dr Robin McKenze.  The guy was a kiwi doctor who forgot about a patient for over an hour.  Instead of wracking pain, the patient was feeling better than ever.  So he devoted his life to understanding why and coming up with a half dozen easy to do exercises that build your core and really work at making pain go away.  Most techniques are based on his work 30 years ago.  Check your library. 

If that does not work, try a traction bed where you hang upside down for 5 minutes to pull the disks apart. This is really good if you have sciatica going down your legs which usually is a pinched nerve between the disks.   You can try one at a exercise joint for free or ask your family/friends.   I like the heavy duty models as some models are so flimsy you swear you will fall over and just stress your back muscles.  If it works, you may need to do this a couple times a day for 10 minutes, but if it rids you of pain, it is a small price to pay.

If that does not work, see a specialist in backs.  First ask who is the best and it does not have to be at your local hospital.  There are some real hacks out there and they can fuck you up permanently.  If the same name keeps coming up as "GOD with a scalpel", that is the one you need to get a referral too. Be persistent as the best do not come cheap and insurance companies like to stall.

 

Good luck. True back pain is not something I would wish on my worst enemy.  Abusers of drugs have made it very hard for doctors to prescribe proper pain medication due to all the new rules, reporting requirements and laws.  I feel so sorry for those with real back issues who cannot get proper pain meds due to these jackasses.

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3 hours ago, Wet Spreaders said:

You have a 3 inch sea slug living in your back?

more like 1 1/2 inch - 3 centimeters...

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