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We intend to reconsider the prior Administration’s interpretation that the Organic Foods Production Act does not authorize USDA to regulate the practices that were the subject of the 2017 Organic Livestock and Poultry Practices (OLPP) final rule” 

https://inthesetimes.com/article/organic-farming-rule-trump-ended-revived

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19 hours ago, bstrdsonofbtl said:

We intend to reconsider the prior Administration’s interpretation that the Organic Foods Production Act does not authorize USDA to regulate the practices that were the subject of the 2017 Organic Livestock and Poultry Practices (OLPP) final rule” 

https://inthesetimes.com/article/organic-farming-rule-trump-ended-revived

As with most things, big business killed, or at least perverted organic.

Prior to USDA organic, the organic stamp had some credibility.  When USDA organic came out, I read the chemicals that were somehow allowed and realized USDA organic meant: large companies want more money for essentially the same thing.  With the farmers markets in NYC, I have the ability to talk with the farmers and can quickly discern what is what.  Not everybody has easy access to "good" stuff and many end up trusting USDA organic which, more time than not, sells them out.  There's obviously, a much longer rant to this, but just be careful what you buy/believe.   Caveat emptor.   It's a shame that the term organic got perverted, but the same people that vilify it, support those that pervert it for profit.

 

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On 8/11/2021 at 6:54 AM, Bump-n-Grind said:

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He “farmed” a 1,000 acre farm for a year and made an apparent profit of GBP144.

I know it was largely staged, and he doesn’t need the money, and it’s entertainment etc.

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2 hours ago, Black Sox said:

He “farmed” a 1,000 acre farm for a year and made an apparent profit of GBP144.

I know it was largely staged, and he doesn’t need the money, and it’s entertainment etc.

Many years ago a friend of mine was a new chartered accountant. Had a farm's accounts to do and proudly came up with a nice profit. Got a clip around the ear from the boss and told to rework it into a small loss.

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Farming is one of those ventures that ain't for the faint hearted. 

You invest in land, irrigation, seed/plants, fuel, chemicals and equipment, and potentially labor beyond your own time. 

You are competing with very mature, optimized and well funded businesses that have economies of scope and scale, and access to financing beyond your own. 

You are probably competing with foreign sources that are are subsidized/protected by their governments. 

Some years you do ok, others, you stand to lose it all. 

For anyone who's never put in a day on an ag tractor, I highly recommend it as a humbling experience

 

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In 1906, Alfred Henry Lewis stated, “There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy.”

Making food is a societal requirement. It's no surprise that farming has moved from subsistence to a cottage industry to the realm of multinational conglomerates. Just as making aircraft has moved out of the Wright's bike shop and you get surgery in a hospital rather than having the local wise woman chant and burn stinky herbs.

Society has no obligation to keep inefficient small farmers in bucolic splendor. Farming is not a game or a lifestyle, it's too important for that. So long as the land remains under cultivation, why do we care whether the farmer is Monsanto or Mom-and-Pop? Economics is a brutally Darwinian affair, but modern society can't function without continual productivity improvements. 

Farmers need to get smart, get lucky and work hard - or go bust and sell out to a bigger outfit that needs less luck to survive.

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I need to offer another perspective.  There is the romance of the sole farmer tilling his field and feeding his family. In the 18th century that works.  When you add elitricty for AC and heat and cooking, trucks to deliver any excess crop, tranportation to the cinema and Saturday night entertainment the model fails.  In WI there is a generous support for small dairy who would otherwise fall by the wayside. Big AG is not Evil AG. They need good soil next year and next decade.  It is easy to demonize successful operations as you wallow in your inefficiencies and failures.

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On 8/19/2021 at 2:25 AM, bstrdsonofbtl said:

Stop confusing the issue with facts.

Without shifting the conversation to PA, people should read that article and others that dig into these issues.  They are real.

 

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On 8/21/2021 at 5:43 PM, PurpleOnion said:

Stop confusing the issue with facts.

Without shifting the conversation to PA, people should read that article and others that dig into these issues.  They are real.

 

That 13 year old article is a gross generalization with no specifics.

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