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21 hours ago, Getwet said:

Is there one?

Should there be one?

How can we get it done?

Obviously money.

money wasn't the problem 2 cup cycles ago when they were CoR

https://www.reuters.com/article/sailing-americascup-challenger/rpt-sailing-australian-wine-mogul-to-challenge-for-americas-cup-idUSL4N0HP0GP20130929

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On 9/11/2021 at 1:45 PM, 167149 said:

or is it the egotistical billionaires they have are sick of being shafted financially

as a cyclist, following the orica/greenedge team through it's journey has been interesting. australian team funded by a caravan magnate called Gerry Ryan. numerous attempts to get alternate funding have fallen through and Gerry seems to step in every time and the name changes to his winery, or some business he's invested in.

total cost over the ~10 years to him must be $10-$20m annually as a thumbsuck. He obviously enjoys the strategy or assembling the team and riders, and visiting your boys (well he has a ladies team too) in exotic places must be great too.

 

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RIDE Media: It’s very generous. But we can essentially say that the team is ‘benefactor funded’, couldn’t we?

Gerry Ryan: “It is. And there’s no doubt, as I’ve said before: my kids are concerned about their inheritance. Each year they say, ‘Well, what’s the team costing?’ And I say, ‘Okay, how’s our asset base this year compared to last year?’ ‘Yes, it’s up.’ ‘No more questions.’

“But on a serious note, yes for us to go to the next stage, we need to get some corporate money – or more corporate money – into the team.”

 

Putting together an AC campaign obviously not his vibe, (according to wikipedia he is australia's 176th richest person.) but there's no reason why it can't happen. they definitely have the sailors.

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On 9/28/2021 at 1:54 AM, shebeen said:

as a cyclist, following the orica/greenedge team through it's journey has been interesting. australian team funded by a caravan magnate called Gerry Ryan. numerous attempts to get alternate funding have fallen through and Gerry seems to step in every time and the name changes to his winery, or some business he's invested in.

total cost over the ~10 years to him must be $10-$20m annually as a thumbsuck. He obviously enjoys the strategy or assembling the team and riders, and visiting your boys (well he has a ladies team too) in exotic places must be great too.

 

 

Putting together an AC campaign obviously not his vibe, (according to wikipedia he is australia's 176th richest person.) but there's no reason why it can't happen. they definitely have the sailors.

Yup, here in Far north Australia Cyclists and caravans are the two most annoying things to share the road with.... Slow, Lane hogging things. VMG Wise they are both probably closer to waterborne craft... ALTHOUGH, Cyclists and AC sailors do share similar uniforms, so there is that too.

Good on the guy for sponsoring the teams though, without private individuals like him Aussie athletes across most sports would get buggar all support from their federations/associations and government, as theyre mostly geared towards ruling..

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On 9/11/2021 at 11:45 PM, 167149 said:

or is it the egotistical billionaires they have are sick of being shafted financially

Not at all, hard to shaft a billionaire and keep your life together...

The billionaires are just not interested in an event that is trying to be of interest to the average 'poor' person. No interest in TV coverage or back room cameras detailing their wealth. They enjoyed the event when it was only of interest to them and other keen sailors. Having the money they would blow on a challenge talked about by Joe Blow is of no interest to them. Plus they can't even go for a ride as a guest, let alone drive them.

Then the cost of the event has grown over the years, where even the rich baulk a bit. So things like the TP52's took off. They are still involved in the sport, still spending more than we could dream of, just staying reasonably private about it.

So the drive to make the cup commercial has driven away those that used to compete. 

 

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3 hours ago, Gissie said:

Not at all, hard to shaft a billionaire and keep your life together...

The billionaires are just not interested in an event that is trying to be of interest to the average 'poor' person. No interest in TV coverage or back room cameras detailing their wealth. They enjoyed the event when it was only of interest to them and other keen sailors. Having the money they would blow on a challenge talked about by Joe Blow is of no interest to them. Plus they can't even go for a ride as a guest, let alone drive them.

Then the cost of the event has grown over the years, where even the rich baulk a bit. So things like the TP52's took off. They are still involved in the sport, still spending more than we could dream of, just staying reasonably private about it.

So the drive to make the cup commercial has driven away those that used to compete. 

 

As you already wrote, just look at the success (longevity, number of participants) of the TP52s and RC44s. Ms and Bs in abundance, engaging in the sport of sailing.

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