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President Biden and first lady Jill Biden were joined by former President Barack Obama and Bill Clinton this morning in lower Manhattan for the commemoration ceremony at the National September 11th Memorial.

Biden will then travel to Queens before leaving for Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

(9) Biden attends 9/11 memorial service in lower Manhattan (cnn.com)

GW will be in Shanksville.  It's kinda sad that Trump can't attend either one.  He's made himself a fucking outcast.  And it appears he knows it.  

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Jr on Twitter asked for questions for his dad TFG guy today - it didn't go well.  Unless one appreciates awesome dark scintillating humor, then it's awesome. 

edit: I wrote awesome twice. I like awesome.  (obscure Blazing Saddles reference)

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14 minutes ago, benwynn said:

President Biden and first lady Jill Biden were joined by former President Barack Obama and Bill Clinton this morning in lower Manhattan for the commemoration ceremony at the National September 11th Memorial.

Biden will then travel to Queens before leaving for Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

(9) Biden attends 9/11 memorial service in lower Manhattan (cnn.com)

GW will be in Shanksville.  It's kinda sad that Trump can't attend either one.  He's made himself a fucking outcast.  And it appears he knows it.  

TFG failed to show compassion for others?  I'm shocked, I say!  Just shocked!

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1 hour ago, Jules said:

TFG failed to show compassion for others?  I'm shocked, I say!  Just shocked!

 

ROTFLMAO!  You forgot the purple sarcasm font, Jewels.......

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2 hours ago, d'ranger said:

Jr on Twitter asked for questions for his dad TFG guy today - it didn't go well.  Unless one appreciates awesome dark scintillating humor, then it's awesome. 

edit: I wrote awesome twice. I like awesome.  (obscure Blazing Saddles reference)

For us old farts that are not on twitter, a link or quote of some of the questions would be just awesome.

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24 minutes ago, bridhb said:

For us old farts that are not on twitter, a link or quote of some of the questions would be just awesome.

Not that thread, but this one is pretty good.

 

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14 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

Not that thread, but this one is pretty good.

 

JFC.  And people committed treason for this white trash piece of shit???  

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22 minutes ago, Burning Man said:
38 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

Not that thread, but this one is pretty good.

 

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JFC.  And people committed treason for this white trash piece of shit???  

There are good reasons why many many people considered Donald J. Trump a psycho crooked-ass racist POS before he even announced he was running for President. If this country endures, he'll be one of those Presidents on the list with an asterisk after his name.

- DSK

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"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." -- Sept. 13, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." -- March 13, 2002

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2 minutes ago, benwynn said:

If Trump checks his watch at the boxing match, I'm going to give him shit about it.

It's probably a knock-off Rolex that he checks to verify it's working.

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51 minutes ago, hobie1616 said:

If you look very close you'll see that his watch reads, "Rollex."

I had a knock-off, back in the day.  Read "Rulex", but you had to look closely.  It was a quartz movement, but (somehow) made something like 4 or 5 "ticks per second.  If you glanced at it, it damn near appeared to be a Swiss movement.  Changing the brakes in my car, a wrench slipped and the crystal smashed on a bolt.

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32 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

I had a knock-off, back in the day.  Read "Rulex", but you had to look closely.  It was a quartz movement, but (somehow) made something like 4 or 5 "ticks per second.  If you glanced at it, it damn near appeared to be a Swiss movement.  Changing the brakes in my car, a wrench slipped and the crystal smashed on a bolt.

Did you replace it with a Bolivia?

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I have an Invicta that's a pretty good Rolex knock-off.  But it's self winding, so I have to reset the time every time I want to wear it, and can't use it while doing physical work, as the crystal on my other Invicta cracked when I dropped it on the floor.  I went through 2 or 3 Ronstan Clear Start sailing watches, by cracking the crystals when shifting motors and pumps around at work.  The 25 dollar SS Casio is bullet proof, and lasts many years....

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Well Evander folded like a deckchair 1.49 into the first round.........guess Junior couldn't ask any cool questions.

It's a nice metaphor for TFG too- he was so looking forward to being back on prime time but he got cut short, SAD

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Ummmmm, I get you guys hate Trump. He is that sort of figure.
True he did not visit Ground Zero. Rather he went to the 17th Police Precinct and Ladder Company Number 2.
Which might I point out is very Trump. Hanging out with the grunts while a whole bunch of other politicians and celebrities were mugging for their share of the spotlight. 911 isn't about the spotlight. It is about all those who died and all those who rushed in to help. 

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12 minutes ago, quod umbra said:

Ummmmm, I get you guys hate Trump. He is that sort of figure.
True he did not visit Ground Zero. Rather he went to the 17th Police Precinct and Ladder Company Number 2.
Which might I point out is very Trump. Hanging out with the grunts while a whole bunch of other politicians and celebrities were mugging for their share of the spotlight. 911 isn't about the spotlight. It is about all those who died and all those who rushed in to help. 

Oh yeah, Trump loves to rub elbows with ordinary working class guys.

- DSK

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10 minutes ago, quod umbra said:

Ummmmm, I get you guys hate Trump. He is that sort of figure.
True he did not visit Ground Zero. Rather he went to the 17th Police Precinct and Ladder Company Number 2.
Which might I point out is very Trump. Hanging out with the grunts while a whole bunch of other politicians and celebrities were mugging for their share of the spotlight. 911 isn't about the spotlight. It is about all those who died and all those who rushed in to help. 

And in typical Trump fashion, he managed to redirect a day of mourning and opportunity to help unite the country into a day of demonizing the current administration  for activities that he put in motion and "hinting" at his run for 2024 to enhance his continued grifting, even admitting the grift as a reason he is not "officially"  announcing his campaign.

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8 hours ago, Navig8tor said:

Well Evander folded like a deckchair 1.49 into the first round......... ...   ...

He was an excellent boxer but no Sugar Ray; and I can't imagine a man over 50 no matter how hard he's trained being in shape to duke it out with an equally in-shape 20-(or 30)something guy.

- DSK

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32 minutes ago, bridhb said:
46 minutes ago, quod umbra said:

Ummmmm, I get you guys hate Trump. He is that sort of figure.
True he did not visit Ground Zero. Rather he went to the 17th Police Precinct and Ladder Company Number 2.
Which might I point out is very Trump. Hanging out with the grunts while a whole bunch of other politicians and celebrities were mugging for their share of the spotlight. 911 isn't about the spotlight. It is about all those who died and all those who rushed in to help. 

And in typical Trump fashion, he managed to redirect a day of mourning and opportunity to help unite the country into a day of demonizing the current administration  for activities that he put in motion and "hinting" at his run for 2024 to enhance his continued grifting, even admitting the grift as a reason he is not "officially"  announcing his campaign.

Bingo.

For quod to pretend it isn't about the spectacle for The Former Guy is revisionism.

He was invited to the 9/112 ceremony.  He declined.  When folks found out how he was choosing to honor the day, he was rightly mocked.  In anb effort to limit the damage, he hastily arranged to visit the precinct and firehouse.  Bank on it.

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3 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

I am not a Republican. I Do Always Defend Them.

If you realized how stupid and evil and anti-American those goddam libby-rull faggot Democrats are, you wouldn't write that in purple.

- DSK

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1 hour ago, quod umbra said:

Ummmmm, I get you guys hate Trump. He is that sort of figure.
True he did not visit Ground Zero. Rather he went to the 17th Police Precinct and Ladder Company Number 2.
Which might I point out is very Trump. Hanging out with the grunts while a whole bunch of other politicians and celebrities were mugging for their share of the spotlight. 911 isn't about the spotlight. It is about all those who died and all those who rushed in to help. 

 

Trump is not about photo ops.   In fact, he swears he's not.

 

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2 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:
2 hours ago, quod umbra said:

Ummmmm, I get you guys hate Trump. He is that sort of figure.
True he did not visit Ground Zero. Rather he went to the 17th Police Precinct and Ladder Company Number 2.
Which might I point out is very Trump. Hanging out with the grunts while a whole bunch of other politicians and celebrities were mugging for their share of the spotlight. 911 isn't about the spotlight. It is about all those who died and all those who rushed in to help. 

Oh yeah, Trump loves to rub elbows with ordinary working class guys.

Like the way he opens up Moron-A-Lago to the peasants.

And builds gold plated housing for the masses.

What a fool - exactly the sort of "grunt" TFG appeals to.

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3 hours ago, quod umbra said:

...
Which might I point out is very Trump. Hanging out with the grunts while a whole bunch of other politicians and celebrities were mugging for their share of the spotlight. ...

 

42 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

Like the way he opens up Moron-A-Lago to the peasants.

And builds gold plated housing for the masses.

What a fool - exactly the sort of "grunt" TFG appeals to.

You misspelled deluded pinhead.

Trump goes to "hang out with the grunts" and what does he say to them? "I was robbed, etc etc. I had the tallest building in Manhattan on the day after!"

But it's because we hate Trump, yes indeed.

Actually, it -is- because we hate Trump. Every RWNJ who has been programmed that goddam faggot libby-rull Democrats are THE ENEMY!! loves Trump precisely because we hate him, they don't care about -any-thing else, even the deaths of their own family. Of course, I don't really hate Trump, I'm just incredulous that such a transparently self-centered crook and bigoted dumbass... well known to the public as such long before 2016... can command their loyalty. True brainwashing is the only way I can explain it.

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13 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

 

You misspelled deluded pinhead.

Trump goes to "hang out with the grunts" and what does he say to them? "I was robbed, etc etc. I had the tallest building in Manhattan on the day after!"

But it's because we hate Trump, yes indeed.

Actually, it -is- because we hate Trump. Every RWNJ who has been programmed that goddam faggot libby-rull Democrats are THE ENEMY!! loves Trump precisely because we hate him, they don't care about -any-thing else, even the deaths of their own family. Of course, I don't really hate Trump, I'm just incredulous that such a transparently self-centered crook and bigoted dumbass... well known to the public as such long before 2016... can command their loyalty. True brainwashing is the only way I can explain it.

- DSK

 

It’s not brainwashing.  The vast majority of these people are ASSHOLES, most are morons, many if not most are bigots and a substantial # are Nazi’s. 

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On 9/11/2021 at 12:21 PM, billy backstay said:
On 9/11/2021 at 10:25 AM, Jules said:

TFG failed to show compassion for others?  I'm shocked, I say!  Just shocked!

ROTFLMAO!  You forgot the purple sarcasm font, Jewels.......

The only people who wouldn't know it was sarcasm wear red hats.  And watching them respond to sarcastic comments about their idol justifies not using the purple font.

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12 hours ago, Navig8tor said:

Well Evander folded like a deckchair 1.49 into the first round.........guess Junior couldn't ask any cool questions.

It's a nice metaphor for TFG too- he was so looking forward to being back on prime time but he got cut short, SAD

TFG once hawked Big Macs, Oreos and Pizza Hut.  He'll do anything that puts his face on TV and money in his pocket.  And health food in his mouth.

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3 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

Bingo.

For quod to pretend it isn't about the spectacle for The Former Guy is revisionism.

He was invited to the 9/112 ceremony.  He declined.  When folks found out how he was choosing to honor the day, he was rightly mocked.  In anb effort to limit the damage, he hastily arranged to visit the precinct and firehouse.  Bank on it.

Ugh. I think you guys don't get shit.
If you were Trump, would you have gone to Ground Zero or a cop shop and fire house?
You all call him TFG but you act scared shitless he might just run and win again.

GWB didn't come to Ground Zero either. Difference is he is no longer eligible to serve as POTUS.
He also didn't want any of the 20th anniversary commemoration to be about him. Rather he chose to go to Shanksville. Shows how important he sees the passengers of Flight 93's sacrifice.

Bill Clinton attended Ground Zero ceremonies. WTF? He is the dumb fuk who declined to take out Bin Laden when he had a chance. Is he not culpable?? 
How dare that fukwad shows his face!

Was watching an interview on BBC yesterday, an interview with Condoleezza Rice. Shame she won't run for president. She would be fantastic.
Anyhow she was talking about how other countries Interior Ministers are charged with protecting their homeland....whilst in the US the Sec. of Interior was in charge of National Parks and land leases as a case in point about how the US saw the need for domestic security against foreign actors. Ms. Rice talked about how poorly we were prepared for the events of that day. She also spoke about GWB being on a domestic trip, that fateful day. Protocol was that his top aides, including NSA Director would not accompany POTUS on domestic trips, only when traveling abroad. That has changed and The President is no longer detached from his top aids at their side. She further spoke about our lack of ability to get F-16s, armed and at the ready, to get airborne. That too has changed.

Another interview I was watching was an interview with Heather "Lucky" Penny USAF Ret. Ms. Penny spoke of her mission on that day, her and her co-pilot were dispatched to go stop Flight 93. She said they had no time to do a pre-flight check, which she indicated would take 20 minutes, arm the plane with missile nor any appreciable amount of ammo. They simply ran to the jet, fired it up and went wheels us ASAP. She said they knew what was being asked of them, to eliminate Flight 93 by any means possible to stop it from getting to The White House of Houses of Congress. Her and her co-pilot discuss it as being a suicide mission once they got off the ground and reviewed their available options. She concluded the interview saying she was forever grateful to Todd Beamer and the other passengers for doing what needed to be done to stop Flight 93.

People, that is what 911 is about. Those who were attack and died, those that rushed in to save lives giving their own. 911 is not about fukin' politicians and Ben et al, you should all be ashamed of yourselves for making it about fukin Trump.
Nice job guys...... fukwits all of you.

 

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15 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

Junior looks like he's using smegma as hair gel. Senior looks like he's trying to remember where the hell he is.

The only "Grunts" that Trump hangs out with are the ones he makes while humping some coked up pageant queen, playboy bunny, or porn actress.

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1 hour ago, quod umbra said:

Ugh. I think you guys don't get shit.

We so hope that your boy Shitstain runs again in 2024. But truly, he can only do this if he gets support from Patriots like you. Won't you help your boy Shitstain defend America from disgusting liberals such as myself? Donate generously.

https://secure.winred.com/save-america-joint-fundraising-committee/membership?location=djt_sa_header

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10 minutes ago, Olsonist said:

We so hope that your boy Shitstain runs again in 2024. But truly, he can only do this if he gets support from Patriots like you. Won't you help your boy Shitstain defend America from disgusting liberals such as myself? Donate generously.

https://secure.winred.com/save-america-joint-fundraising-committee/membership?location=djt_sa_header

And don't forget Don Jr needs more smegma for his hair.

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2 hours ago, Fakenews said:

It’s not brainwashing.  The vast majority of these people are ASSHOLES, most are morons, many if not most are bigots and a substantial # are Nazi’s. 

You want to concede that your 100K estimate was off or roll with it.  You and I are not Covid experts, let's heed the expert's advice.  I believe you and I agree on that.

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3 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said:

You want to concede that your 100K estimate was off or roll with it.  You and I are not Covid experts, let's heed the expert's advice.  I believe you and I agree on that.

Nope. 7DMA death rate is down 100 from a week ago.  I agree neither of us are COVID experts.  I just just like to highlight good news when I see it.  I believe we can all agree good news is good new. 

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13 minutes ago, Fakenews said:

Nope. 7DMA death rate is down 100 from a week ago.  I agree neither of us are COVID experts.  I just just like to highlight good news when I see it.  I believe we can all agree good news is good new. 

Yes, of course.  And I have nothing against the gay community!  You go girl!

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2 hours ago, Mrleft8 said:

The only "Grunts" that Trump hangs out with are the ones he makes while humping some coked up pageant queen, playboy bunny, or porn actress.

What Playboy Bunny would have anything to do with him?

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3 hours ago, quod umbra said:

. 911 is not about fukin' politicians and Ben et al, you should all be ashamed of yourselves for making it about fukin Trump.
Nice job guys...... fukwits all of you.

Every single development in US politics on 9-11 is not on hold because you have a 20 year old human interest story to tell us.  Besides, Trump made 9-11 about a boxing match.  Then, when he took shit for that, he went to a firehouse and then made 9-11 about Biden's handling of Afghanistan.  He can't even fix a fuck up without fucking it up.

Speaking of Biden's handling of Afghanistan.  Maybe it's not about Biden.  Maybe it's about any number of human interest stories about people helping others get out. 

 

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4 hours ago, quod umbra said:


You all call him TFG but you act scared shitless he might just run and win again.

Was watching an interview on BBC yesterday, an interview with Condoleezza Rice. Shame she won't run for president. She would be fantastic.

 

To the first point - That should scare any thinking human.

To the second - She's a Republican.  Do you REALLY think the current iteration of the GOP would back a Black woman?

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10 hours ago, quod umbra said:

Ummmmm, I get you guys hate Trump. He is that sort of figure.
True he did not visit Ground Zero. Rather he went to the 17th Police Precinct and Ladder Company Number 2.
Which might I point out is very Trump. Hanging out with the grunts while a whole bunch of other politicians and celebrities were mugging for their share of the spotlight. 911 isn't about the spotlight. It is about all those who died and all those who rushed in to help. 

Dude, YGBFKM!  How can you even type with that orange mushroom head of his lodged balls deep?  And you most definitely will not get a reach around either.

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5 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

What Playboy Bunny would have anything to do with him?

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51 minutes ago, hobie1616 said:

And how did that turn out?

He got two years of presumably good sex, she got two years of sweaty lump and a couple hundred thou. Not bad for a part-time job, pay was better than slinging burgers.

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13 hours ago, Burning Man said:

Dude, YGBFKM!  How can you even type with that orange mushroom head of his lodged balls deep?  And you most definitely will not get a reach around either.

You too JB?

Ya'll miss the point, TFG stands for The Former Guy, as in the past, as in no longer, as in yesterday's news.
Who cares?

I find it comical that all the "progressives" can talk about is what is in the rear view mirror.

So at what point should they worry? How about during the primaries if Trump is doing well. No guarantee.......
 

And why is Trump still on the Radar?
Because our current CIC is braindead.
Look over there, shinny object!!!!

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27 minutes ago, quod umbra said:

 

And why is Trump still on the Radar?
Because our current CIC is braindead.
Look over there, shinny object!!!!

Because for starters he still completely controls half the senate, almost half the house and the majority of the supreme court and most of the state governments but a minority of the voting population. to the point where the Republicans in the senate, congress and states at least, can't bring themselves to tell the truth about an election that occurred almost a year ago.  The lie is used as a rally cry at any gathering of one or more Republicans.  The CA recall is already "rigged" if a Republican doesn't win.  A "brain dead" Biden is still much less damaging to the USA than TFG is from one of his golf resorts.

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17 minutes ago, bridhb said:

Because for starters he still completely controls half the senate, almost half the house and the majority of the supreme court and most of the state governments but a minority of the voting population. to the point where the Republicans in the senate, congress and states at least, can't bring themselves to tell the truth about an election that occurred almost a year ago.  The lie is used as a rally cry at any gathering of one or more Republicans.  The CA recall is already "rigged" if a Republican doesn't win.  A "brain dead" Biden is still much less damaging to the USA than TFG is from one of his golf resorts.

That's because he owns the most libs... look at how fascist dumbfucks like QU accept worshipping Trump as so much of a natural state that they are no more aware of it than fish are aware of water

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58 minutes ago, quod umbra said:

You too JB?

Ya'll miss the point, TFG stands for The Former Guy, as in the past, as in no longer, as in yesterday's news.
Who cares?

I find it comical that all the "progressives" can talk about is what is in the rear view mirror.

So at what point should they worry? How about during the primaries if Trump is doing well. No guarantee.......
 

And why is Trump still on the Radar?
Because our current CIC is braindead.
Look over there, shinny object!!!!

If there weren't tens of millions of Americans who continue to support (monetarily and electorally) The Former Guy, you'd have a point.

But, there ARE tens of millions of Americans who want him to returning 2024 and continue his path of destruction.

So, you are, as usual, wrong.  He is NOT "yesterday's news".

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9 hours ago, hobie1616 said:

And how did that turn out?

I believe there was some talk of Trump paying for KmcD's abortion, some Texas vigilante should turn him in to the authorities in Dallas, and collect their $10K bounty.

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41 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

If there weren't tens of millions of Americans who continue to support (monetarily and electorally) The Former Guy, you'd have a point.

But, there ARE tens of millions of Americans who want him to returning 2024 and continue his path of destruction.

So, you are, as usual, wrong.  He is NOT "yesterday's news".

Okay, fine. You are entitled to that opinion. But as I said, that comes into play during the primaries season IMHO.

Second thingie based on your above BD. Do those who would support a second Trump presidency have a right to support him?
We have gotten to a place in America where BOTH sides try to discredit the other's opinion, take, position. We have become one never ending shit show. The casualty of that war is finding common ground and the common good.
I have long said we would fair much better if we discarded that which we cannot agree on in favor of that which we can agree upon. As a nation our future depends on this. Yet we continually fight over what we cannot accomplish to the detriment and demise of what is possible.

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There is no primary season. That is a media fiction. For example, your boy Shitstain declared his candidacy for re-election on inauguration day 2017. He can do that again at any time. One reason not to is reporting requirements. Otherwise, your boy is already accepting donations. He needs you. Won't you help your boy help America?

https://secure.winred.com/save-america-joint-fundraising-committee/membership?location=djt_sa_header

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3 hours ago, quod umbra said:

Okay, fine. You are entitled to that opinion. But as I said, that comes into play during the primaries season IMHO.

Second thingie based on your above BD. Do those who would support a second Trump presidency have a right to support him?
We have gotten to a place in America where BOTH sides try to discredit the other's opinion, take, position. We have become one never ending shit show. The casualty of that war is finding common ground and the common good.
I have long said we would fair much better if we discarded that which we cannot agree on in favor of that which we can agree upon. As a nation our future depends on this. Yet we continually fight over what we cannot accomplish to the detriment and demise of what is possible.

If you could find something I said/wrote in any way suggesting people do not have the right to support the candidate of their choice, we might have something to discuss.

Absent that, you are just building a strawman.

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5 hours ago, Bus Driver said:

But, there ARE tens of millions of Americans who want him to returning 2024 and continue his path of destruction.

ummmm, does this work BD? Your inference being they should not support a return to Trump.

Olsonist, Are you daft or just braindead?
As I have stated most clearly over and over, Trump is not my boy. I did not vote for him either time and would not vote for him a third time running if that comes to bear.
But I'll bet you a bag of donuts you will continue to vote a straight party line. So cut the crap. I am not the problem, you are by supporting the duopoly.

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Just now, quod umbra said:

ummmm, does this work BD? Your inference being they should not support a return to Trump.

While they have the right, and they should be support who they want.  But, the price paid for that support is paid by all of us.  They need to own their mistake.

Case in point - all the folks who tried to blame the Democrats for the election of The Former Guy.  In order to do that, you have to completely ignore the race to become the nominee.  The GOP picked him to be their candidate.  They own that.  Now, the Democrats would have been hard pressed to pick a less desirable candidate than Hillary.  But, to pretend it is the fault of Dems is bovine scat.  

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On 9/11/2021 at 10:10 AM, benwynn said:

President Biden and first lady Jill Biden were joined by former President Barack Obama and Bill Clinton this morning in lower Manhattan for the commemoration ceremony at the National September 11th Memorial.

Biden will then travel to Queens before leaving for Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

(9) Biden attends 9/11 memorial service in lower Manhattan (cnn.com)

GW will be in Shanksville.  It's kinda sad that Trump can't attend either one.  He's made himself a fucking outcast.  And it appears he knows it.  

 

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Just now, Grrr... said:

Oh look, another sock puppet pulled out of the bin by sad sack.  I'm sure he'll adds loads of quality input negative value to the conversation.  As usual.

FTFY - there is a very low level of understanding even sarcasm here.

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3 minutes ago, benwynn said:

If you're doing damage control, you may as well squeeze in a photo op. 

 

Please don't quote the worthless shithead.  The first image is a photoshop, and they're trying to get it to go viral.  Photo-op?  The best news coverage he can get is a blurry picture taken by a cellphone?  What class. 

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20 minutes ago, Grrr... said:

Oh look, another sock puppet pulled out of the bin by sad sack.  I'm sure he'll adds loads of quality input to the conversation.  As usual.

 

Jerkz disappeared for a while.  Time to use the "ignore user" function again.....

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9 minutes ago, Zonker said:

And the idiot with a red MAGA hat got in trouble too :)  Not supposed to wear political symbols at work.

 

 

More importantly, he wasn't wearing a mask like these good citizens.  

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ESPN says enough to this kind of stuff. 

 https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32192680/celebrity-fights-fun-evander-holyfield-vitor-belfort-crossed-line

 They are right. Nobody near 60 should be in the ring with a 44 year old guy who punches like Belfort. George Forman was still punching hard at that age, and with all the beatings Holyfield has endured over his long career he's not even making much sense in his press conferences anymore. 

Dana White wanted to slip Trump some cash. That was all this was really about. Fucking disgusting. 

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